How does Sup Forums feel about single payer and medicare for all?

How does Sup Forums feel about single payer and medicare for all?

Democrat cooperate shills like Kamela Harris and Cory Booker now support the bill

I think it's about time that this country joins the rest of the industrialized world and provides healthcare as a right not a privilege

I agree. It's time that pig pharma stopped raping America

It's one of the best policy that Bernie has

Fucking lunatics, don't condemn us all to party care. In the long run socialism hurts everyone, even the ruling class!

It's great as an alternative option to private care, two-tier healthcare is by far the best way of providing healthcare in the marketplace.
If only fat people could be taxed more.

Fuck the ruling class you betamale

It's weak sauce that only serves to preserve capitalism by placating the privileged. We should have evolved into a better society by now, and reforms only prolong the misery and injustice.

There is only one war - class war. There is only one victory - communism.

What do you have against something like social democracy within a capitalist system where the poor and worse-off are still taken care of with a generous welfare state, given healthcare, education, etc.?

Not going to work. Or work like a dick sewed onto a woman.

What they should do is free up the market, cross-state insurance frees up competition. Second, let the FDA fuck off a bit so drugs get approved sooner (the actual cause of high drug prices, not greedy Skreli's), and overall less regulations. And make an actual government effort to getting people healthy instead of keeping them in the pill-loop. The 'crony' part of crony-capitalism only comes from government. otherwise you'd be fucked.

I don't think we can have full on communism in the US, our best chance at it is communist lite with Bernie Sanders

>given

this.

Bernie isn't even close to a communist, he's a social democrat or something similar.

If you can't have communism, wouldn't you settle for Democratic Socialism?

Going back to classical readings like Rousseau who argue for a form of collectivism, one of the key tenants of a form of collectivism requires a small to medium sized country.

Socialism can (probably) worked decently but the problem is, the United States is way too large to properly administer single payer without being burdened by massive administration fees and bloat.

Canada has only a 1/3rd of the U.S population and they do only decently.

Even California who borders on commietopia passed single payer yet are close to backing off on it after looking at how much it'd cost their state.

Free market at a country like the size of ours is probably the most ideal though with a few minor adjustments (Quicker generic drug access, ability to purchase across country/online, etc)

The United States as of now is in a very odd position where we're experiencing the both the worst of free market and the worst of subsidized care simultaneously and the predatory practices and massive lobbying done by Big Pharms is one big reason why.

>everyone throws money into a pot
>terminally ill; dumb bastards; drunkards; chimney pipes; strung out losers; land whales; all take, take, take out of the pot
>9-to-5 healthy goy needs help
>back of the queue
>no money to perform procedure

This is essentially the system we have now, I just wish more people would understand that capitalism isn't the only system in play in the US. If not then why do our tax dollars go to support the largest military in history, or to subsidize the most profitable industries ever? If there were true uncorrupted capitalism or rather no socialized safety net for "ultra-rich" like Trump to game the system with we'd be looking at a much different economic scenario. The founding fathers wrote about the corrupting forces of capitalism and hoped to design a system that benefitted people (via representation) and not money for money's sake.

I like it. But it should only cover legit medical issues (not like tranny surgeries or whatever) and - it should go without saying - but it should only go to US citizens.

I think a public option would be good at least.

If insurance companies are so incompetent that the government of all things manages to be more efficient, then maybe they really do need to die. Private companies have no problem competing with the postal service.

Why would you need communism if everybody is well-cared for and has enough free time to pursue their passions, etc.?

Oh wait, I completely misread your question, yes, I would.
Germany, France, Japan, and the UK all have much more people than California and Canada all have universal healthcare and do fine.

you sure are quite the dreamer
>inb4 Scandinavia
yeah I wish USA had more white people too man

Meant to respond to you with this , fuck

I don't think it's incompetence. I think insurance companies are far more semitic than the State.

It works so long as you do the following;

>A. you must be employed to receive universal
>B. you must not exceed a certain body mass index
>C. you must be a non-smoker for x number of years
>D. you must not have done drugs for x number of years

The only reason Canada doesn't do this is because Eastern Bastards are the omegacuck race and rather than encourage people to improve themselves/stop killing themselves, they want to avoid hurting feelings, even if that means harming the coverage for everyone else.

Jesus fuck BC, Ontario faggots aren't east. Actual east coast hates niggers, fags, and fatties.

Actually don't give a shit about this go ahead.

fuck off. ive paid for my own health insurance since i was 18 years old. i didnt even want it, but it was a requirement if i wanted to ride a motorcycle and live with my dad at the time.

Because your clothes are being made by child slaves in the third world while you take your bribes from capitalists.

i'm against it for the simple reason that "for all" most likely includes central America and Mexico. once the dems decide to re-evolve on their immigration policies, then we can talk