Build multi-million dollars giant robots

>build multi-million dollars giant robots
>armed them with melee weapons and up-scale guns

This is why tanks are simply better.

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>better
cheaper
fixed that for you

Rule of cool.

>This is why tanks are simply better.
As well as a shitload of other reasons.

I wish there were less anime about mecha and more about tanks honestly

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This makes me smile every time.

Mechas with bow and arrow when?
>direct fire
>indirect fire

mechs could move a little more uninhibited, plus they have more armor.

>mechs could move a little more uninhibited,
>plus they have more armor.

Nigga you went full retard.

>more armor

If you mean less with more weakspots you are right.

Rule of cool ect
On a serious note, power armor on the other hand is most useful up to the point it becomes prohibitive to enter buildings. A power armor larger than this but still small enough to navigate tight corridors too narrow for a tank to navigate is also useful. Giant mech suits are dumb, full stop, no mechanical engineer or flag officer has ever argued in favor of them, only dumb weeaboo, so you don't have to worry about DARPA getting in their heads to build one, they know better. Dumb weeaboo will weeaboo, for the sophisticated we have shit like strike witches.

Where could a mech go that a modern tank couldn't? Most mechs are wider than tanks, they would have trouble moving down a street without knocking shit over, they can't go into wooded areas at all, they'd do a bit better on mountains or something maybe.

>On a serious note, power armor on the other hand is most useful

And we don't get power armor or just exos on animu.

>inb4 kamen rider
No, it isn't the same.

We don't care about robots here.

>'Tanks are better'
>Can only go over relatively level terrain
>Fixed weaponry
>Horrible turn radius
>Almost zero ability to dodge
>Sitting ducks if the enemy has air support
>Only way they are viable is a mass attack

Meanwhile mobile suits
>Are able to traverse many different types of terrains
>able to arm itself with a variety of weapons
>Can turn in a dime macross Zero style compared to a tank
>Human like motion allows it to easily dodge incoming shots.
>Able to easily defend against enemy air support
>A single mobile suit can solo at least several tanks at once
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There's a reason the Feddies stopped using the Type-81 after the One Year War.

please nobody take the bait

This is an anime and manga board and in anime/manga mecha >>>> tanks always.

>B-But muh realism

No one cares.

You asshat already took it.
Why even reply to that?

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Look at how well your precious tanks do in a real battle and tell me it's bait.

>mechs could move a little more uninhibited, plus they have more armor.
Mechs have a lot more surface area per given volume therefore for the same weight, they will be much less armored. Mechs also have higher ground pressure therefore is worse in soft terrain.

Heavy Objects > Tanks > Exos/power armor > Mechas

It's funny how the modern soldier humps more weight than a fully suited medieval knight but no one gets that (muh womyns, the real lunacy to be argued against). The GitS cyborgs make power armor redundant so I'll count them.

>Where could a mech go that a modern tank couldn't?
Mechs can climb or jump over obstacles whereas tanks are limited to driving on relatively flat surfaces.

>anime/manga mecha >>>> tanks

>And we don't get power armor or just exos on animu.

>cyborgs

user. That'll probably take longer than fully functional Power armor a 40k style.

>This is why tanks are simply more boring.
FTFY
Mecha are a manchild explanation to make people like him into massive gods made metal in near-magical techno-armor like a knight.

You don't go to mecha expressly for realism.

We've been over this, since it's Sup Forums related it follows anime logic
It all depends on who's driving the mech, who's driving the tank and which one is relevant to plot

This is an accurate depiction of tank vs mech combat. A 200 billion dollar machine will die from an 8 million dollar one.

>Mech
>not even once

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Tactical nukes wreak traditional notions about the properties of massed forces. Carrier groups are the exception to this rule because they project force far outwards, if anything gets close they're fucked.

Heavy Objects are just as silly as normal mechs. They just look different to hide it.

Tanks don't have air conditioning.

You got GuP, isn't that enough?

Protip, an Abrams can plow through just about anything. For rooting out jungles there's helicopters and even a big ass mecha would get stuck in the muck, advantage power suits.

>Tanks don't have air conditioning

Maybe some soviet-era shitbox. Every modern MBT has some bomb-ass air conditioning.

ITT: Plebs

Giant Robotic Centipedes and Sandworms will be superior to Bipedal Robots and Tanks in everyday.

People are just afraid that everyone will think they are evil scientists if they started designing and creating giant Insect Based Robots for Military Use since the Bodies of Insects are actually Ideal Forms for Movement in many environments.

So this is why we waste time with Silly Shit like Big Dog.

Robot Snakes or Robot Centipedes would be Bad PR and too Creepy even though they are more Practical.

>Zaku fails to check his surroundings and walks into a tank column that is at an elevated position.
>Doesn't immediately use his boosters to jump out of the area.
More like a tank wank where the Zaku pilot is an idiot and walked into the one area where the tanks had a chance and stood there with his thumb up his ass.

>Abramas can go through anything
>But if the terrain is to hard to traverse, just use a helicopter
You're an idiot that just conceded mobile suits can do both jobs of a tank and chopper.

Abrams may go through anything, but watch out if you make a turn without going at a snail pace.

The abrams is an obsolete piece of shit with a meme engine

Still better than a mech

Or anything mushy.

Enjoy being a sitting duck while you spend several minutes trying to get out the mud while a mobile suit just walks up to you with not problems and blows you sky high.

>Still better than a mech
Obviously.
Giant mecha as a concept have been obsolete ever since the Germans tried to build giant super weapons and failed horribly, allowing us all to have a hearty laugh and pretend we knew from the beginning that it's just silly to supersize everything.

>mech
>walking through mud
>not sinking up to his fucking knees in the shit

Is your mech wearing snow shoes?

The mech would be putting significantly more pressure on smaller areas of ground, meaning that it would get mired down just as easily in deep mud.

Plus all you'd have to do is hit the knee joint with an AT weapon.

Using the same technology, one could replace the legs with treads and the hands with guns. This reduces overall complexity (and therefore cost and maintenance), and is a much more useful weapon.

However, it suffers from a fatal flaw: the toy for it looks really stupid, so nobody is going to buy that. A giant robot that looks like a demon samurai is clearly a better idea.

>And we don't get power armor or just exos on animu.
Macross Frontier Ex-gear. Exo-like anti-g-suit.

Or just a plain shot to the leg would make the mecha fall down due to stopping power.

No that's a good track you're on. Let's build on that
I propose we add a torso joint so the robot can rotate the weapons platform 360 degrees, and give it an overall lower profile.

We shall call this novel invention a TANK

>Thinking mud is just a bottomless pit of quicksand and the weight of the mobile suit won't just disperse the viscus portion of the mud.
>Thinking a gun would be accurate enough to hit the joints
>Thinking that a mobile suit will no longer be a thread if you take out a leg joint
This is comical thinking.

They already showed several scenes of mobile suits going through extremely muddy regions with no problem. Meanwhile all you need to do is damage a tank's tread and they're fucked.

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And dumb-bombs cheaper than laser-guided and can do the same job. But we still have JDAM and GPS-guided munitions.

>Tanks
>Good
Pick one

Tanks cant carry beam weapons in UC as the reactors required for them are too large. If you were to upscale a tank in order to use beam weaponry it would be just as impractical if not more so than mobilesuits, especially since due to a tank basically being a box your much more likely to hit the reactor and turn the thing into a nuke when compared to a mobile suit where there are various limbs you can disable to effectively kill it with out it turning into a nuke

>soviet-era shitbox
They still have decent ventilation systems.

But how will it hold its laser sword?

I remember this fight being much cooler when I saw it as a kid. helmet was the hero.

Well when you completely throw out reality, I suppose you can maintain any fallacy. In any realistic situation where real-world physics applies, a bipedal mech would be useless as it became larger in size, as its mass would have to increase as well.

And when I mentioned an AT weapon, I was talking about any shoulder-fired system such as an RPG7 or Carl Gustav.

>>Thinking that a mobile suit will no longer be a thread if you take out a leg joint

First you meant threat you nigglet.

Second a mecha without a leg joint will be crawling mecha.

>Thinking a gun would be accurate enough to hit the joints

They are you nigger. A sabot round would snipe the shit out of a mecha.

>Thinking mud is just a bottomless pit of quicksand and the weight of the mobile suit won't just disperse the viscus portion of the mud.

Nigger, it doesn't need to be too deep to fuck with the mecha's mobility AND stability.


You have to choose between mobility, armor and firepower. A realistic mecha only has mobility and some firepower(with a need of constant resupply).

You hold it yourself and drive closer

>a tank basically being a box
No, a tank is basically a piece of armor tightly clamped around what innards it needs.
At the same amount of armor, a tank would be better armored than a mobile suit and have fewer weak spots to take advantage of. It would be more difficult to turn into a nuke than the MS.
Tanks for ground warfare, and planes for aerial warfare.

In UC you can only use dumb-bombs and fly by wire due to particle interference.

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It gets hot as balls inside a T-72 on a mildly warm day.

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Am i the only one who likes stuff like in Sora no Woto?
I mean that freaking spider tank was pretty fun. And it could still be somewhat used in real world. Somewhat. Doesn't mean it's good, but it's still somewhat believable.

Mechafags on suicide watch

Also, just look at that sexy beast

Not pictured: a justification for the humanoid mode.

If you want believable mecha, I guess you could try FLAG.
It's still running on anime physics, but they tried.

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>Poland One coming through

I can't take this shit serious.

Why do nips fetishize big guns so much? Did they learn nothing from WW2? They're worse than Germans.

But beam weaponry invalidates armor in UC. thats the whole reason why Ms's start using thinner and lighter armor and miniaturize so much by f91 and victory

So functionally, what was the point of making it look like an 80s scifi spaceship?

>fetishize big guns

Try and take a guess. Ill give you a hint It has to do with dicks.

>Tanks
>Mechs
>Implying there isn't something that beats both.

Well, of course you can always step it up

You make it sound like the world can't support 58.1 metric tons and it would cause the land it walks on to collapse. The Ground tends to be extremely stable for the most part, even those uneven portions that a tank can't get through.

>Go into a muddy area
>Start to sink
>Use backpack thrusters to pull yourself out of the muck and jump to a more stable area.
That's not very hard, do you even know what a Zaku can do?

>Sniping a Zaku with a tank
A sabot round might be able to pierce a Zaku's armor. But you keep thinking a tank will be able to get close enough to a zaku to fire at point blank range so it couldn't dodge the shot. The tank would be shot to pieces unless the pilot is oblivious, before it could get into range. It might be possible if you're firing on the Zaku if it has it's back turned to you, but you better have a helluva a cannon to fire over a long enough range to get them. And good luck being accurate enough to hit the torso or joints.

You're one dumb nigger if you don't think the Zaku is an excellent blend of firepower, armor and maneuverability.

Why do they look so smug?

>dodge the shot
You're funny guy.
The speed it would take to dodge a fucking cannon shot is also a speed that would break the MS and kill the pilot.
I'd say that's mission accomplished for the tank.

People also like to forget that Mobile suits during the one year war are generally used along side Tanks, fighters, infantry and other shit

See

Big guns were still good at the beginning of WW2. It takes a long time to build a ship so carrier-based warfare was difficult to transition to.

So dragonflies and giant dildos make Tanks obsolete?
Gotta remember that.

>so it couldn't dodge the shot

Nigga, the Gs that the mecha would need to pull to dodge a modern sabot(not even a sci-fi one) would turn the pilot into a red paste.

Because they know they can fuck you up. You and everyone near you
Yeah, but the idea of HO is fucking retarded

Tanks can't curbstomp anything, though. Just roll over them.

>Mechas with bow and arrow when?

Fuck, I will watch that.

>rifleman bus
But yes, they are still cool as fuck.

You really have no idea how physics works, do you? Even being around tanks is enough to see that the ground is pretty damn soft. A tank WILL leave ruts in the ground, imagine what something much heavier will do with less area touching the ground. Not that it matters, you'll just pull some bullshit made-up statistic out of your ass to try and justify something that just isn't feasible. I don't even know why I'm replying to such obvious bait.

But they can drive their main gun up your ass and violate you while you are doing your best to imagine it's your waifu taking your virginity.

So, everything is dumbfire because of ~~~special particles~~~, but a zaku pilot can somehow sense the trajectory of a round fired from a tank at that hillside?

Why are tankfags so damn autistic?

We like giant robots because they're cool as fuck in many ways and putting them in a military/war setting is one of those cool things.

Hey look at that, tanks can be armed with missiles.

To bad anti-tank has made main battle tanks waste of time.

You can clearly see in the cartoons that mobile suits can walk on the ground without harming it. What more evidence do you need?

>mechfags logic

Translation:
>mechs what use more advanced and futuristic technology and is not limited by laws of physics that much is faster and more durable than tanks
>tanks meanwhile are still modern or past tech with all real life physics limiting them

It's more that most parties a modern military would face off against, like Taliban, ISIS or chechens, don't have tanks

>because they're cool as fuck

Have you read the thread faggot?

Mechafags are trying extremely hard to prove they are realistically better than tanks.