Can someone explain how Economics in National Socialism works?

Can someone explain how Economics in National Socialism works?

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Basically whenever you want to talk to someone without citizenship of your country, you have to go through the government, assuming moderate nationalist socialism.

It's socialism done by Germans, so it worked to the extent that it brought German out of a depression temporarily. Ultimately it's still socialism.

They dont

> I wanna give poor people loans with a 50000% interest rate
> No, you can't do that.
> WTF?!?!? FUCKING NAZIS!!!!!

> I wanna sell orphans as slaves on the market. Free trade right?
> No, you can't do that.
> WTF!?!?! FUCKING NAZIS!!!!!

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Highly regulated capitalism
You can run any kind of business so as long as it benefits the native population of the country

For some reason my memory is suggesting you could get loans from a NatSoc gov with 0% interest but my brain tells me that's. It possible but not everyone pays back loans so wouldn't there be some interest just to cover the defaulters?

Germany would likely have been something like modern China but without soulless bugmen and super-autism.

And less chopping up dogs into little pieces and dumping cadmium and lead into the tap water.
More like China actually inhabited by humans

The peoples rights of trade and inherent beings are not subjugated but people must follow fair trade rules and servebthe greater good, people have a right to 0roperty, to their business etc..

Socialism for the government.
Capitalism for the people.

Take the Jew's money and give it to the White man

>Ignore scarcity
>Give out everything to everyone who is a natural citizen)
>When there is not enough to go round, seek to expand by force if necessary
>If you win the war, go to step 1
>If you lose the war, ruin your country for years while those in the future will claim that its not real socialism.

Economics is an insignificant matter in National Socialism. Ironically, this is what helped boom the economy of Germany.

People first and above all. A booming economy is the result of this. National Socialism does not revolve around economics. Economics revolve around the fruits which the people produce.

"Our socialism reaches much deeper. It does not change the external order of things, it orders solely the relationship of man to the state... Then what does property and income count for? Why should we need to socialize the banks and the factories? We are socializing the people." - Adolf Hitler

Marxism isbthe enslavement of the person, National Socialism is their liberation and getting to be a positive factor in the community.

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National Socialism focusrs on the people and thrir meaningful socialization not any Jewish economics.

Well Natsocs don't like usury so unless some sort of Islamic banking takes place people would have a lot of trouble funding projects and capital would be concentrated among the wealthy since they don't have an incentive to lend so they might as well start businesses to put that money to work.

Not quite, my friend. What the Nazis were aiming for was akin to Communism but with a reliance of slave labor, the use of race politics and loyalty to the Nazi Party to determine wealth distribution and who is privledged with civil civil and economic liberties, and the problem with employment being solved by having the majority of the population work for the government.

>What the Nazis were aiming for was akin to Communism

Wrong.

>People are the national resource
>Interest and debt are and unsustainable, destructive illusions of productivity and wealth

Facist economics are based on the principle that if an entire nation is like a good, christian family, sharing one ethnic identity, culture, etc., then the economics can be treated much like a family. If someone has a negative effect on the nation then they will be punished. You wouldn't charge interest on a loan given to your brother, but you wouldn't give him a loan if he was a drug addict living in your mom's basement. There isn't anything stopping someone from becoming rich, but facism ensures that the rich look out for the less fortunate in the nation.

>how Economics in National Socialism works?

It doesn't.

NatSoc's see all public efforts as going toward the furthering of the NATION. The nation is distinct from the STATE. The state is the government, borders, and institutions of a country. The nation is the people themselves. The nation is often defined through the historical perspective along lines of race or ethnicity toward the exclusion of all other peoples. Citizenship is defined by blood, not by constitutional fealty toward ideas as in liberal republics. NatSoc's oppose feminism because it would potentially divide the nation in two. They oppose Marxism because that particular ideology is inherently transnational and would divide each nation along class lines. That division of the nation is unacceptable to NatSoc's.

National Socialism has remarkably little to do with economics. Socialism, or a form of collectivism, is the only economic ideology that is capable of buoying a much larger political worldview.

There would be protectionism involved. The government would likely subsidize native industries and slap tariffs on international competitors to encourage domestic production.

After the US collapses, it's going to be amusing to listen to American apologists say "b-but that wasn't REAL capitalism!" for the next hundred years.

Nazis were capitalists

>W-We just didn't get a chance to reach real capitalism

>Socialism, or a form of collectivism, is the only economic ideology that is capable of buoying a much larger political worldview.
Americans have a hard time understanding how China can have a socialist market economy. Most Americans insist that it must simply be called 'capitalism', but I suspect that deep down that's in part due to a fear that their system might actually work, and disprove "end-of-history" ideas about liberal democracy, and capitalism.

Welfare.
Does not promote work ethic. You could live and not work a day in Nazi Germany

Sup Forums is a communist board

Commies are beta numales with no father figure and an irresponsible mother and sympathize with communist ideology because their irresponsible mothers wouldn't then have to work for their housing.

Fukayama's ideas have been discredited for almost 2 decades now. Also, we like our unique brand of liberal republicanism. We have the capability both constitutionally and politically to do big things with government at the helm, but simply don't possess the will. It hasn't always been that way. And it will likely happen again that the will to move will strike us. But most Americans see no reason why major firms like Exxon or GM should serve the nation when those firms already serve their own customers so well.

SUCC democracy at the barrel of a gun.

Unenployment was 0% a resultnof the communities questbto health and progression.

This flag is the result of literal Jewish economics over the people, NS has no economic dogma only the well being of the people.

>it orders solely the relationship of man to the state.
this t bh

The key economic strength of National Socialist Germany was that they didn't have a specific economic set of views. Marxism and Capitalism are core-economic ideologies.

Market economics with low personal tax rates (13.7%).
Government regulation to prevent excessive or degenerate practices in the workplace or community.
Despite what you may have heard, Germany didn't necessarily have a problem with foreign labour, but the point in their program was (If there are not enough jobs for the native German population, then foreigners must be expelled until there is).
No subhuman immigration

If you want more detail on a specific part like welfare or anything else, ask.

well, 30 million illegal mexicans tend to drag down any economy to the floor

Germany had 100% employment so of course they wanted European workers.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the de facto ideology something like "main street capitalism" but having major industry (manufacturing, finance, etc...) nationalized to serve the people? This paired with a massive public works program?

You set up a bunch of factories, put meth dispensers in the bathrooms, and blare AC DC 24 hours a day until shit gets done.

What ylu need to know, you will have house, you will have family, you will have good money, you will have vacations etc... On the national side.

>Unemployment was 0%
>socialism

Fake and gay

Every member of NS that is.part of the.community and is a worker will have housing, vacations, lots of money, free healthcare, free education, free exams to admission into the party etc.. All founded on labor.

The gulag

Well market economics isn't always capitalism, that's just market economics without moral restraint (the pursuit of profits at any cost that can be gotten away with).

And the National Socialists when they got in power actually privatized a large number of publicly owned industries (the word "privatization" actually was coined to describe the National Socialist privatization program).

The key elements were basically to have state owned armaments industries, but they went and privatized pretty much everything else (including banks) because they didn't have to own them. If any one of them put their toe over the line, they'd be physically removed, so ownership wasn't needed.

It was results > ideology.

So you guys are pretty much against freedom then right?

Simple everyone is equalky poor and forced to work. Except politicians who have access to all of the power abd money. Think mass welfare with no hope of ever living any better a life unless you are born to someone in power.

Women will be paid to care for the children at home, women will not be forced to worm but be left to natures duties in contionuing the people etc..

Whose "freedom" is the real question.

It doesn't.

You are comparing Jewish economics to tribal organization.

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They would completely kill the porn industry because it's somehow "harmful"

>An Amerifat whose nation is in a 20+ trillion dollar debt on a society built around the cycle of wage slavery and consumer slavery is preaching about "freedom"

Oh boy

Essentially these.

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>t. ancap memeballs

WHADDOYU MEAN I CANT SELL CRACK-COCAINE TO CHILDREN?!?!

It literally does and literally any capitalist worth his weight in shit will not even argue against this. Sargon conceded SOCIALISM DOES WORK.

>implying mass immigration is a glitch rather than a feature of the system

Getting dirt cheap, low IQ labour that won't express discontent and won't quit is (in the mind of anyone who wants to make profits their top priority, which is all capitalists) isn't a decision at all, it's inevitable if the option presents itself, which in an increasingly globalized world will never stop presenting itself.

It's an inherent trait of capitalism.

What kinds of things don't benefit the nation?

>USSR
>works
Literal dysgenics kys retard

Why is a nationalized economy more favorable to a libertarian society consisting of white christians

Imagine modern day China but with decent human beings and less LARPing as commies.

>blare AC DC 24 hours a day until shit gets done.
Probably Wagner, but close enough

Trust me if you want whites to work hard you flip the radio to 'classic rock' or 'best of 70's, 80's, and 90's' and keep your fucking hand off the dial.

I've heard of you blast she shook me all night long loud enough white people will come from miles around just to frame a house.

>Why is a nationalized economy more favorable to a libertarian society consisting of whites

First of all I have no interest in Semites or their religions/ideologies.

Second: They're both inherently shit. Nationalizing your whole economy or even a significant chunk of it should only ever be a temporary measure during deep recession and should be sold afterwards.

Having a libertarian society will ALWAYS lead to massive widespread degeneracy, consumption and profligacy.

Libertarianism is also incompatible with a white society, as it is inherently capitalist in nature and the capitalists of the country will always leave the country (in regards to their business interests), because there will always be some subhuman across the world to exploit for dirt cheap wages.

And libertarian free markets will do everything they can to destroy tradition and culture, as both of those things stand in the way of some product or service being sold for profits. The destruction of culture is inherent to Marxist and capitalist ideologies, as a moral, ethical and self-respecting society isn't one that can be turned into consumer debt slaves (or in the case of Marxism: actual slaves).

>currency specualtion
>major de-industrialization & outsourcing
>over-reliance on foreign trade
>degenerate/predatory businesses (brothels, narcotics, etc)

"degeneracy"

The ONLY way you'll ever have even a slim chance of the latter is to wield the former....so the question is moot.
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Most of these explanations are very broad or are a bit vague, so I will try to simplify it in greentext.
>You want to start a business.
>Ask government for money to get your business started.
>Government reviews your brand and what you are selling.
>If they don't like it, you don't get money.
>If they think it will help contribute to the economy they give you the money.
>Fast forward a year or two later.
>Government checks on you to see if your business is raking in the dough.
>If it is, you are granted more money to spend on your business.
>If it is not or you have shut down, you will need to repay the government the money you took to fund it initially.
Basically it is producer oritented capitalism. Experts review if your business is good for the country and give you free cash to help it grow if they do think it is good.

>dat moral relativity
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kek, wait until your son comes home from elementary school demanding to be called Xir and given hormone therapy.

You forgot to add

>Meanwhile the government taxes your business up to %80 so you rely on government for growth.

If the government hates you, no grow.

nominal private propiety, state organizing the economy and labour-based currency (read manifesto against usury slavery by gottfrier fedder, there is all the economic plans including adrigulture)

>Second: They're both inherently shit.
What is your ideal economic system. Do the people own companies, or does the government?

Look up Ordoliberalism

>First of all I have no interest in Semites or their religions/ideologies.

Isn't Nazism about preserving moral western civilization? Christianity has contributed more to the world than any other ideology. If you care about white culture, you'd care about Christianity, even if it came from Jews.

This tbqh. National Socialism concerns itself with a healthy people. A healthy people will make a healthy economy.

But you forgot to add
>But the only reasons for government would hate you is if your business harmed the people or the state.
>This could be from peddling vices, promoting unproductive/degenerate behavior or engaging in dealings that allowing foreign interests to influence and usurp the domestic economy.
>If your business was making astronomical profit at the expense of the people's well-being, of course the government would hate you and shut you down.
>If your business improved the quality of life for the people, the government would have no reason to hate you and will continue investing for your success.

>>But the only reasons for government would hate you is if your business harmed the people or the state.
>>This could be from peddling vices, promoting unproductive/degenerate behavior or engaging in dealings that allowing foreign interests to influence and usurp the domestic economy.
>>If your business was making astronomical profit at the expense of the people's well-being, of course the government would hate you and shut you down.
>>If your business improved the quality of life for the people, the government would have no reason to hate you and will continue investing for your success.
Who would decide all this, a dictator?