This shit goes deep

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That poor sweet soul actually believes they'll grow OUT of conservatism.

14 year olds didn't elect trump kōhai.

he is right and once total internet censorship kicks in

KISS YOUR GEN Z GOODBYE NAZIS XD

they will instead actually go militant hard core brown shirt. not that's there's anything wrong with that.

College is good at brainwashing dingus

They've already broken the elementary school brainwashing.
They'll be fine.
How many fans do you think PewDiePie lost during Niggergate?

Don't worry we will get them in highschool and college. All institutions of higer learning are ours

On the alt-right discord servers, there were some young guys: 14, 15. I always muted them, but their perspective is interesting

>Generation Zyklon

WHAT HAVE WE DONE

youtube.com/watch?v=0KDtowAF4LI

you don't get more left wing as you get older.

It's like a generation from over 100 years ago started respawning/reincarnating.

"Oh no, we were born to our great grandkids and they're slackjawed faggots. I built this country in my previous life and these faggots are going to burn it down."

barely any i watched it real time RE the sub count,he was barely affected by it all

you cant be the establishment and counter culture son

YOU AINT COOL NO MORE!

Serious question - the pendulum swings, but is it REALLY true that people don't grow out of conservatism? That's interesting if so and I want to read more about it.

they got tired of raising their parents or their single mom's black boyfriend.

Some famous atheist's son became a bible thumper because he had to raise himself and got tired of her shit.

I grew up being somewhat liberal throughout most of middle/high school until I realized faggots and spics are the real problem.

Negro's aren't that bad honestly. If you talk to them normally and don't act like a faggot, then no need to worry.

Spic's are just so fucking confrontational though, and they don't have anything to back it up either.

try a sub gain. +360k past 30 days.

lol guy wants cops/security because he was called a word? L O L

for being so tough and bad ass... these people sure do need the world to come crashing down to their knees when they hear a word

>ultra-left leanings
Top kek. Who did this moron sample to arrive with such data?

Even millennials turn conservative when they get their first job and move out of mommy's basement.

>they'll snap out of it when they turn 1488

I think it's more along the lines that people get more conservative as they age. More like a generation starts liberal and becomes conservative as the younger generation comes along and becomes the new liberals. I'm not sure how often a young conservative generation comes along like this

I can't wait to command my own Right Wing Death Squad made of zealously fanatical Gen Z's

t. Very Angry Millenial

People are more left leaning in their youth and become more right leaning as they age... have to work, pay bills, etc.

If young kids are right wing right now, they were born angry. Shit in their youth makes them feel hopeless.

They might be disgusted at their slut mothers smelling like wine and jizz. Maybe they got tired of their moms feeding them hot pockets and they watched an old movie where some kids had a mom and a dad, mom cooked dinner.

I think people grow out of leftist thought once they realize youve gotta fend for yourself out there in the real world. So its more like people grow INTO conservatism, if anything.

Pewdiepie only lost the annoying faggot SJW subs after niggergate. He had a net gain of subscribers.

You may actually be onto something. Lots of old souls coming back.

If you're conservative and young you have no heart
If you're old and leftist you have no brain

Conservatism is an ideology based on the principle that needing to consume resources to survive is a non issue.

This is why societies rise on hardship and fall on leftism. We build civilization so well that "reality" becomes friendly enough for leftist ideologies to flourish on debt.

Once you become a conservative, only a thoroughly comvincing illusion that the red pill is a lie can persuade you to really change in any meaningful way.

Given the global financial system we live in, the environment will only grow more hostile and right wing ideologies will be harder to refute as the standards of living go down.

This is why lefties start pushing for increasingly insane government programs to quiten the mob.

Try getting a job at Goolag and being conservative.

Very true, Ive said exactly this to some of the younger folks at my work, and even the left leaners agree.

The family and school systems are also socialised. If the schools can't convert them nothing short of a boomer-tier economic golden age will change their minds.

New orleans superdome m8.

Nigs are terrifying when the gibs dry up.

It's really a matter of perspective. Most conservatives have little more to their worldview than 'it is what it is, best get on with it.' It's complacency, and people get older and a lot become complacent, especially when they have enough wealth to live out their meaningless lives.

Their needs for the future also become a non-issue (in a materialist world) so who gives a fuck about progress if you're going to die in ten years?

Here's a study suggesting that conservatives are basically just geneticucks:
"Children who were restless at age 4 and a half were less conservative than those who were more passive. Children who had difficulty focusing their attention on playing were more conservative than those who had less difficulty focusing attention. Finally, children who were more fearful were more likely to express conservative views than children who were less fearful."
psychologytoday.com/blog/ulterior-motives/201212/who-grows-be-conservative-or-liberal

People are more liberal while young because of the word "ideals". Is it not ideal that we don't kill people? Is it not ideal that we allow people who love each other to raise children? Is it not ideal that a person doesn't have to work and can still live adequately? Shouldn't you be able to cross borders however you like? Why do you need guns? People shouldn't want to hurt another!
Basically, no matter who you are, while young you will most likely agree with the majority of these questions because they are only taught the "Ideal" answer to the questions, which lines up with the liberal politics.
As a person gets older, they realize that some ideals just can't be reaches, so compromises must be made.

"If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain"

Funny thing is that these degenerates have degraded society so rapidly that now even kids don't want to be """liberal""" anymore, they just jump straight to being conservative

Giving women the right to vote has divided white men and women so that they can no longer agree on basic principles.

This alone will kill the white race. Now white women can only identify with minorities in terms of principles.

Only the most feminine white men go to the liberal side and they literally wind up getting cucked because the only strong people within liberal circles are minorities who think that way for gibseedats

Born angry, schools somehow making it worse, hardship giving rise to conservative thought...
Interesting ideas. Sounds hopeful. We might be entering a period of hardship, but periods of hardship can also be the periods where civilization is on the ascent. Pull in, save up, and rise higher.
The meme that conservatives are scared is pathetic. I've confronted liberals with enough ideas that showed the whites of their eyes in panic to stop being impressed with it. I laugh at the hazards of the world, and try to deal with what I'm presented with. Why can't liberals do the same?
The meek might inherit, but we aren't there yet.

Lefty college enrollment is down.

>"Children who were restless at age 4 and a half were less conservative than those who were more passive. Children who had difficulty focusing their attention on playing were more conservative than those who had less difficulty focusing attention. Finally, children who were more fearful were more likely to express conservative views than children who were less fearful."

So you're telling me that those who conform more easily to authority are more likely to hold mainstream opinions?

Really made me think..

Women don't have principles. They're just baby making machines who cannot have babies because of all the birth control they take.

They don't care about their careers, or the freedom that they didn't fight for; rather, they'd virtue signal over problems that don't exist.

Trump is the final stop before we get a Rand Paul type president. Generation Z will get us the leaders we need.

It will get worse before it will get better. Some millennial faggot will be president soon. Expect some tought times ahead. If we hold the country together, our dying days will see a revitalization of America under Gen Z's.

Ad Astra

Exactly.
Despite the brainwashing, they still know what degeneracy looks like when they see it, and make efforts to avoid.

It is a shame we don't live in a perfect world.

I disagree.
I think we've passed the peak of "the weak propping up the weak" age of politics

Generation Z will hate what their parents like.
Which will make them Liberals because only conservatives are both having and raising their kids right now.
Then the ones that get older and wiser will become Conservative again.
The ones that are older and wiser are the only ones that vote.
The ones that are older and wiser are the only ones to have and raise children.
>and the cycle repeats itself

But Millennial whites are more conservative than GenX was at their age...
Fuck an A millennial whites voted majority for Trump!!

GenX never voted majority for Bush Dole or Bush 2.0.

Not what it says. It says children who tend to be introverted and fearful tend to become conservative.
And it says nothing about fear in the face of ideas.

Presidency and economic impact of labor force etc. lags the actual generation by 2 full generations or so (~40 years).

Boomers are retiring, which will load crippling debt on us Millenials, while the self-absorbed Gen X's will run amok with their IDGAF politics (already beginning to happen with the government totally going insane).

When we get Gen X's to the office of presidency, things will have become much worse. Millenials all over mid-level bureaucracy and corporate structure; grinding economic performance to a halt, and Gen X's too concerned about their own self-image to step up and help.

Then we'll get a fucking die-hard-commie-SJW for president most likely (look at how much of our generation here in US leans left; especially among educated Millennials.)

When we finally fucking retire, things will start to get better. So us conservative millennials will be busy fighting collective insanity all our lives.

Should be fun tho.

I think the muh whites are evil argument is become a huge joke. I think the left dies in 2020 with Harris as the dnc nominee.

It's all true.

Bushes were not conservative...

I hope so user. Normies find a way to pick the stupidest path forward, so I'm preparing myself for the worst.

Don't think that's what it says. It's discussing passivity and unease. Basically children who have low drive and creativity grow up to be conservative. So if we extend this to the ageing problem then perhaps once people become more passive and uneasy later in life they also become conservative.

I am not worried. The left branding Hispanics white is the dumbest thing they could have done.

I think trump has a great chance in gaining a ton of minority's to the rep party. Have faith.

>keep screaming everyone who disagrees with you is a nazi
>shit pants when nazis show up

Wow, I wonder how kids who want to be edgy and establishments will react?

The kids are alt-right

Don't worry, when they get old they realize that conservatism is dumb and it doesn't work

Do people grow out of liberalism?
youtu.be/dP--RHIvemY

>Finally, children who were more fearful were more likely to express conservative views than children who were less fearful."
Having a certain amount of fear is a self preservation trait.
Liberals tend to lack self preservation.

I dismissed what you gave me too quickly. I was an introverted and fearful child. I had to learn to cope with that. Only once I had did I find myself less fearful than people around me.

heh, I like this leaf

College student tail end millennials probably. Most older millennials aren't insane leftists

Nice analysis (usafag on travel btw). I dont disagree but have a slightly different view on it (generally optimistic)

Structurally, millenials are more open and connected which makes them vulnerable as a group to redpills.
They are less willing to prop up the system since they are debt-bearing losers in that game.
And generally I've found them to be more 'diplomatic' than the sjw boomers and depressing x'ers.

It won't be a 100pct blowout, but the overwhelming Trump support has to be a good sign, right?

Im Generation Z.

Both my grandfathers were hardcore conservatives - one is authoritarian and the other libertarian. One used to vote Democrat but then grew disillusioned with the party when it stopped catering to the blue collar, and the other voted for Goldwater in 1964 while living in rural Alaska.

Point I'm making is I was raised properly and i think that with the internet, us young people can look back on older generations and realize that things are fucked up now. I remember seeing pictures of 1930's Germany and seeing how clean the streets were, how happy the people were, and how beautiful and modest the women were. Fast forward to today and the cities are dirty and full of shitskins, people are angry, and women dress like sluts.

There is hope - we had a 1/100% chance of getting an inherently conservative generation and we got it. Now we must act and make things right, and I will proudly be there to help.

Accepting hispanics really force them to do some serious mental gymnastics indeed.

Trump is the right guy to win over many minorities. He's really not committed to anything, including conservatism; hence he's the perfect storm of Machiavellianism. I'm curious to see how far he can bend or break the system.

Sup Forums gave me faith. I had lost hope otherwise. Before Sup Forums I thought everyone around me was a normie. Now I see frat bros acting silly late at night and I think "Hmm maybe one of these guys go home and shitpost on Sup Forums." The anonymity makes you love humanity just a tad more.

You think the average voter knows the difference between a conservative/neocon, and republican?

what delusion is this
you don't grow less conservative, dipshit
you stop being so liberal
is gen z is truly like that you're fucked

We don't need any more conservatives, they're completely toothless. We need hardcore right wing fanatics

>11 year old kid says a word
>I FEEL THREATENED

Jesus fucking christ these people.

It depends, conservative supreme court judges generally move left as they age. Even Scalia did. It's not going to happen though, the changes in high school seniors and incoming college freshmen are too big to ignore. If you were to compare them to Millennials at the same age, they are radically more conservative.

They're talking about passivity, apprehension, and irrational fear. This would be a lack of drive and openness to new things.

As a comparison to dogs this means a less outgoing and trainable dog, and one more likely to be aggressive.

I think a more interesting question would be what children and personality types become far-right or far-left, as there is actually a lot of crossover between liberals and conservatives. They're really not that different at all.

Too young to be on this board. GTFO.

they can all "work a trade" like grampa and wind up st⭕⭕pid

wrong

ww3 soon

Gen Z started in 1997 faggot, i was born in 1999.

He is actually kinda right.
They will move to the nice and cozy center and reach a good compromise with the left once they mature.

I'm happy for you user.

Streets in Germany were cleaner for a very simple reason; labor.

Germany needed to employ many Germans after Weimar Republic totally disintegrated. Not every German was a Waffen SS soldier, so when the country mobilized; it was also the cooks, the factory workers, and yes, the street sweepers that mobilized. That's why Germany was so clean; it was ready for greatness.

America has shitty streets and decaying infrastructure for a very similar reason; labor here in the US is very prohibitively expensive now. It used to be cheaper, because until the New Deal shit, US didn't really have much of a safety net. So people were indeed employed for much cheaper prices. Hence a random corner store could hire a sweeper for instance. The sweeper would also be a nigger repellant I'm guessing. Now you have Apu in a corner store angrily waiting all day only to have niggers knock down painstakingly stacked coke cans.

The only way to get clean streets and an organized, civilized community is slave labor. US is too obsessed with human rights and other meaningless crap, so we will never put the blacks back to work.

Robots might do the trick, but I'm not as faithful of automation as Silicon Valley shills are. Robots will keep the streets clean in general; but they will not have the attachment to their job and desire for perfection a committed human worker can provide. So quality will be low and uniform.

What the US needs is for people to feel a purpose, passion, and attachment to their work. That's what made America great; and hopefully will continue to make it great.

Most millennials were out of college before this sjw era occurred. Most millennials remember "faggot" being an acceptable insult/joke.

Stop conflating tail end millennials with the majority of the generation

You can't unsee jew nig stuff

Meanwhile Trump is occupying center and Dems pushed farther left

>Rand Paul type
Nope, we'll get something more radical out of Generation Zyklon.

Democracy is a method that guarantees the stupidest outcome, so I'm betting they can't vote their way out of a fire exit.

Non-egalitarian, Neitzshe style of approach, or even classic Greek style of approach to life tends to result in relatively successful life.

I know it myself, was a commie out of edge in my teens, ended up fat and depressed, then I've got my shit together and I'm no longer fat and depressed because I've took my life in my own hands and improved myself instead of bitching that I don't have any influence on the course of my life.

>when they hit 14
im almost 22 and im in generation z. guess that guy doesnt know when gen z began.

I for one applaud our heartless juniors.

Trump support is a very bad sign. The Left/Right divide is a false dichotomy, in reality both sides are needed. They need to learn to work together.

The Left side is more open, willing to take risks, and create new things. The Right is more ordered, compelled by duty, and defensive of traditions. Questions should revolve around what is the best strategy in the current situation, or possibly even a synthesis or dualist strategy in some instances. This requires knowledge of both strengths and weaknesses of individuals and the political structures.

We don't have this now because the Left/Right divide is a method of maintaining an invisible sovereign. Modern democracy is based on division, negation, and separation of powers - which means that society is decentralising and each power can effectively work as an isolated unit to extend its interests.

There is no incentive to truly work together, and really the division is a trick to give a sense of possible opposition to the sovereign while at the same time ensuring that the sovereign remains uncontested. Effectively, the society is split so that each political side can only affect their own partition of power (often in reaction to the other), and this actually extends power and accelerates progress rather than having any constraining effect on runaway authority.

Lol, so Millennials were only 12 years or so? Who comes up with this shit?
You're a millennial.

im not the user ur quoting but the way theyre determining gen z is based on the environment they grew up in. we cant remember a time without using computers. we were raised on technology and arent really aware of what a life without it would be

So every other generation was 20 years while Millennials only get 10? If you're Gen Z that means it started way back in 1995, so Millennial generation would only be 11 years or so.

Makes no sense. They're just trying to switch it up because all of the hype in tv, and kids don't want to be associated with millennials.

Millennials are those born from early to mid 1980s, to the early to mid 2000s. And this makes sense technologically/culturally as well, as the kids born in mid 2000s or later will be growing up with handheld phones/tablet computers, not to mention the fake economy. So there will be a huge shift in ten years or so, most likely to an extremely fucked up culture, revolution, or collapse. (This is also when millennials will all be entering adulthood and power structures, or what remains of them.)

Nietzsche can be read as a liberal, non-egalitarianism isn't necessarily opposed to liberalism, and the ancient Greeks were pretty liberal at certain points.

like i said its based on the environment they grew up in. each generation has their own environment they group up in that shaped the generation.

How does that differentiate from millenials or any other modern generation? We've all had mad levels of technology, and gaming systems were a huge part of millennial 'rites'.

The big shift occurs with iphones and touch-screen computers. In the 1990s people were still going outside and doing shit outside, even into the mid 2000s. It's really only the last few years that autism has really taken over in young children. And that should be a bigger marker than teenagers experiencing tablets.

It just makes no sense.

Wrong. Generations are defined by dates.

Younger millenials are very different than older millennials, but they're both still millennials.

btw the depression era generation only is a time span of 9 years. ww2 gen lasted 5. actually after looking it up i cant find many that last much longer than 10 years.

Ok.
Then their generation was raised with being terrified to leave the house, terrified of peanut butter or riding a bicycle without a helmet and full knee and elbow pads.
At some point, they figured out that it was all full of shit.
They have been redpilled at a much earlier age.
My youngest just turned 15 and has been redpilled since she was like 6. She has been around gay people and people with green hair, and a little boy who she played Princess dress up and Polly Pockets with.
She has grown up seeing all of this fake tolerance, while her "enlightened" playmates say nigger on video games. Pewdepie didn't invent it.
"You're a lesbian" was a favorite when the neighborhood kids (in a suburb of San Fran) were all 9-10 years old. Just could NEVER let their parents hear them say it.
Kids with "life threatening" peanut allergies eat snickers bars with no problem.
So, yeah, she's know it's all bullshit for quite a while now.

Sort of, but who determines the breaking point? And why is the mid-90s a bigger breaking point than the mid-00s? It isn't, it's actually less than either the mid-1980s or the mid-00s.

Generations should be based on the average age that a mother gives birth, not some pop-historians theory about significant changes. They are almost always wrong.

Again, I see this as people wanting a new generation to speak of, both for marketing purposes and because lots of millennials don't want to be millennials because they are shitcanned in the media more than any other generation. That's all there is to it, you want to be associated with Gen Z because it is seen as cool. But there's no logical reason why a generational break should occur in 1995.

If anything, the triumph of liberalism is more significant than a new style of PC becoming popular and a few more shitty internet connections.

If everything was linear and no generations could experience a split of events there would have to be a new generation every year. Significant shifts happen more frequently now.

No, conservatism is an ideology that states that wisdom of experience is greater than rationality and change should be enacted slowly to respect this. An age old instituition has formed that way due to trials and success and has wisdom greater than any single mind, so it should only be shaped, not replaced.

It has no actual content of political assertions other than that. You could feasibly have a conservative left wing group.

How would that make sense? It would mean that half of the Greatest generation never experienced war.

According to wikipedia the Greatest Generation was mid 1900s to mid 1920s (meaning the last of them would be 20 for the final stages of war) the Silent Generation was 1920s to 1940s, Boomers Mid-1940s to 1960s, Gen X 1960s to 1980s.

So it doesn't work, nor does it make sense even if it were true.