Next time Dems controll Congress they will introduce VAT tax

>When the next recession blows in, it will likely balloon the U.S. government deficit up to $2 trillion a year.
>The Obama administration took eight years to run up a $10 trillion debt after the 2008 recession. It might take just five years after the next recession to amass the next $10 trillion.
>And on top of the $1.3 trillion deficit that this chart predicts, you can add the more than $500 billion in off-budget debt that I mentioned above, plus higher interest rate expense as rates rise.
>By the early to mid 2020s, barring substantial increases in taxes or reductions in government benefits and entitlements, the deficit will be approaching $2 trillion annually. There will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth.
>If you are in the top 25% of income earners in the United States, you have a big target painted on your income and wealth. The imposition of a VAT seems almost guaranteed. That is the only real way to boost revenues to offset the increases in entitlement spending.
>The Republicans don’t want to impose a VAT now as part of major tax reform. But a future Democratic administration and congressional majority will.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_legislation
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VAT tax is fucking political suicide. No way they would do it.

honestly tho that chart u posted is for real

America has huge fucking deficit projections in the 2020s and 2030s

Trump's tax cuts would literally cripple America. It's what I've been saying for months.

They will get burried mainly by entitlements being spent on retiring boomers and benefits being payed to anyone that is even remotely army related.

Tax cuts or not.

Tax cuts gut revenues.

That's what Republicans don't understand and why they can't be trusted with money.

Correlating budget deficits with tax cuts, such as your graphic does, isn't fool proof.

You don't happen to mention that the federal debt nearly doubled from $10 trillion to $20 trillion under Obama.

Federal spending needs to come down, overall. From military to medicaid, shit needs to shrink.

1. Obama reduced the budget deficit by 2/3

Something no Republican knows how to do.

2. Obama was the slowest spender in 80 years.

3. The debt still went up because Obama inherited the worst Republican Recession since the Great Republican depression and the costs of Bush's wars, fuckups, tax cuts and recession don't magically stop as soon as he leaves office.

youtube.com/watch?v=xI9jbMxoS8I

Tax cuts hurt revenue in the first year. They help the economy in the long run and increase revenue.

Neck yourself faggot. You're using deceptive tactics to ignore the fact that Obama created more debt than all the previous presidents combined.

wrong Like the Bush tax cuts helped the US economy in the long run? Like in 2008? Are you fucking retarded?

>Obama created more debt than all the previous presidents combined

Obama didn't do that. You're thinking of Reagan.

Just realized this thread is just 2 people coordinating with each other.

The debt was 10 trillion and went to 20 under obama. Reagan added billions not trillions to the debt.

Lol every 1 of those points is wrong.

Obama reduced the budget DEFICIT (not debt) by 2/3 and was the slowest spender in 80 years so tell me retard in your own words, why did the debt go up?

OP, give me your PIN number for the ATM machine.

Thank God Obama had a Republican Congress to make sure he didn't triple spending

You cut programs. Then you make tax cuts.

Yet Trump and the GOP are about to explode the budget deficit with more retarded tax cuts for the rich.

Yes. Here's what Republicans actually do. Cut taxes. then don't cut programs. In fact, they end up spending tons on military and wars.

holy shit you dont have VAT yet? lucky bastards...

That will just be another part of the road to collapse. It's so obvious that the whole thing is going to fall apart.

it is just money. Just print more, your inflation is not high enough anyway.

Haha percentage faggot now show actual numbers. Who is paying you to shill here out of curiosity

No you disingenuous Cunt, no one cuts programs. No one. Don't phrase it like democrats do

Looks like a kike trick using a seldom used metric to make it appear Obama didn't spend a lot of money. You couldn't explain how that metric is relevant if you tried.

So maybe Republicans shouldn't cut taxes for the rich and explode the deficit. Like they do every fucking time.

He reduced the budget deficit after he spent insane amounts of money the first year. If he hadn't reduced from first year levels this country would be bankrupt. I know the difference between debt and deficit. I said debt. Obama fucking doubled it. No jew banker analytics can change that fact.

Obama inherited a $1.4 TRILLION budget deficit from Bush and reduced it by 2/3

Don’t Blame Obama for Bush’s 2009 Deficit
cato.org/blog/dont-blame-obama-bushs-2009-deficit

You came in here with 20 different graphics yourself. Who is paying you?

some states have no sales tax at all

>20

We'll I guess we should follow the Obama model where welfare recipients increased, the economy grew slower than the population rose, and our debt doubled. Looks like that tax increase on corporations and upper middle class really worked.

or even income tax.. like florida

but when a hurricane hits.. they want insta gibs

I know you're waiting to post more.

they make it up in other places anyways

Obama added a 787 billion dollar stimulus package to the 2009 budget.

still VAT is probably the least popular tax they could impose

Clinton also had a Republican congress that slashed budget and the dot-com bubble that fed extra money into the IRS.

All of that of course blew up around the time Bush got elected.

It's almost as if the political parties are only anti-spending when it comes to defending initiatives of their political rivals?

No he didn't, he added about $200B in FY09.

Didn't u read the CBO report?

>CBO projects that the deficit this year will total $1.2 trillion, or 8.3 percent of GDP. Enactment of an economic stimulus package would add to that deficit.

cbo.gov/sites/default/files/111th-congress-2009-2010/reports/01-07-outlook.pdf

And perhaps Democrats shouldn't create and expand new expensive programs that can't be funded. Like they do every time.

Republicans had nothing to do wiht the Clinton surplus. It was Clinton's 1993 tax hikes on the rich that led to the surplus. Republicans pissed away Clinton's surplus the moment they got the chance.

>All of that of course blew up around the time Bush got elected.

WRONG

>10 trillion debt under obama
i wonder how much of it were due to bailing out the banks under bush right before obama took office

If they did the reps wouldnt repeal it either, just like ObongoCare

Repealing mortgage tax breaks will be big for them too since millenials, cat ladies and niggers dont own homes and fuck white people

Why is this article assuming we will have a catastrophic recession next year?

>but when a hurricane hits.. they want insta gibs

Or perhaps they simply want the federal government to return the money taken from their citizens.

Just looked up the annual deficit numbers myself. Obama had several years in the trillions, he never went below a 400 billion dollar deficit. Bush's highest deficit year was barely more than Obama's lowest year. Obama's second year in office was in the Trillions, and just as big as his first year. That budget was entirely made by democrats. Bush was a terrible over spender but Obama puts him to shame.

because drumpf

There doesn't appear to be an explanation does there?

Bush's highest deficit was the $1.4 TRILLION he left Obama, not to mention the economy on the brink of another Great Republican Depression.

If this article is written by someone intelligent, it's because its becoming common knowledge that the entire economy is afloat on nothing but finical gains (stocks, bonds, and other speculator markets) while the real economy lags in the shitter. It's only a matter of time before the giant Stock bubble pops and triggers the next recession.

The stimulus package was 787 billion. It was signed in to law by Obama. He added that to the 2009 budget fucktard.

>i wonder how much of it were due to bailing out the banks under bush right before obama took office
Actually the recession was a direct result of Clinton repealing Glass Steagall en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_legislation

Ah yes, the classic misdirection of deficits instead of debt, and the retarded Keynesian fallacy that if you tether your debt to GDP the ever expanding number will somehow become meaningless.

The stimulus was spread over 10 years you fucking retard.

Did u even read the CBO report?

>CBO projects that the deficit this year will total $1.2 trillion, or 8.3 percent of GDP. Enactment of an economic stimulus package would add to that deficit.

cbo.gov/sites/default/files/111th-congress-2009-2010/reports/01-07-outlook.pdf

Obama inherited a $1.2 TRILLION budget deficit the moment he stepped in the door of the White House. Plus Bush never even put his wars in the budget.

Don’t Blame Obama for Bush’s 2009 Deficit
cato.org/blog/dont-blame-obama-bushs-2009-deficit

The deficit fell in real numbers as well as % of GDP

Half of the 2009 spending was Obama's. He had a bloated budget with no revenue because of a housing market bubble crash, and he piled massive spending on top of that budget. The second year he spent just as much. You're then calling the over spending every subsequent year an achievement because it wasn't quite as bad as his previous years. There's no reason the budget shouldn't have gone down to pre recession levels after the second year but it never got that low the entire presidency. Show a fucking graph that includes deficits of both presidents through their presidency.

deporting immigrants and children is more important to drumpf and to that bigot jeff sessions then the fucking economy... who knew kicking out the productive members of society would trigger a recession?

if we slashed government entitlements, we wouldn't have spending problems

>Half of the 2009 spending was Obama's.

That's not true. You just made that up. You're literally retarded.

I'm spoon feeding you the CBO report from Jan 9th when Bush was president but you're too fucking retarded.

Did u even read the CBO report?

>CBO projects that the deficit this year will total $1.2 trillion, or 8.3 percent of GDP. Enactment of an economic stimulus package would add to that deficit.

cbo.gov/sites/default/files/111th-congress-2009-2010/reports/01-07-outlook.pdf

Obama inherited a $1.2 TRILLION budget deficit the moment he stepped in the door of the White House. Plus Bush never even put his wars in the budget.

Don’t Blame Obama for Bush’s 2009 Deficit
cato.org/blog/dont-blame-obama-bushs-2009-deficit

>he cut the deficit after it was inflated to epic proportions following one of the largest financial crashes of all time

wow, what a fucking brilliant amazing job

And oh yea Obama did nothing to put the Glass Steagall protections back and the (((FED))) used quantitative easing to buy up the debt and faulty loans those banks had incurred through their predatory practices by using your tax dollars en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing#US_QE1.2C_QE2.2C_and_QE3

thanks to the republicans and their birther shit and hes muslim

Yep Republicans crash the economy and Democrats put it back together. That's how it works.

also see

GDP was above 3% the economy got hit because of the housing market collapse.

WHY DON'T YOU GO COMMIT REAL SUICIDE, FUCKING PATHETIC ASS FAKE ASS LeAF ASS BITCH ASS BITCH

The arrows are there to influence the stupid, but you'll notice that Obama years are all more than Bush years in all but one year. All you are arguing is that there's an arrow on the graph. The graph still shows Obama with a higher deficit than bush in nearly every year of their presidencies.

>inherited republican wars
>defecit is high
its almost like theres a correlation

Keep in mind that this looks good if it's debt, but it's not debt, it's deficit. It doesn't matter what direction you make the arrow go unless it's debt. Every year of Obama's presidency the debt rose more than all but one of the bush years.

>in all but one year.

lol this might be the most retarded right wing retard of all time

Bush handed Obama a $1.4 TRILLION budget deficit and an economy collapsing and on the brink of a 2nd Great Republican Depression.

Obama doesn't get to just get to reset and go back to Clinton's surplus in 2000. Right wing retards are too young and dumb to even know what happened in 2008. What a bunch of teenage autists.

here's a reminder: youtube.com/watch?v=2POembdArVo&feature=youtu.be&t=56

ty

Yeah. Bush was a shitty president.

criminal too bitch stole the presidency

I'm 40

Ok now you're being a faggot. I'm done.

you don't understand the word 'economy'. It's not just jobs.
Dems lower unemployment.
Reps raise productivity.
Both ideologies are incomplete.

a bloo bloo

I didn't ask for your IQ

Autism leaf is too retarded to know the economy will fix itself with no help from the government

CBO is always wrong

raising productivity by making one person do the work of 3 people while cutting benefits and stagnant wages is more productive

this retarded thinking is how right wing retards turn recessions into great depressions

fugg... drumpf kinda looks liks hoover

lol

look its the obamaleaf who disappears when he gets btfo

wat

laff now till we drag you into ww3

>Reps raise productivity.

no they don't

jobs and wages are what matter

Who cares about the deficit? The government is not there to make a profit. As long as the government can create the currency it is literally impossible to go bankrupt.
Up government spending, remove the retarded debt ceiling and invest in infrastructure.

>the great depression had no influence from the government
Top quality lel

nigger youve been here the last 2 years with the same shitty graphs sucking obamacock every time you come around

>What is inflation? The graph.

Yeah 12 straight years of Republican rule from 1921 to 1933. They had control of the House, Senate and presidency. Throw in the Supreme Court too.

>the amount of people under the assumption that the president has a ridiculous and/or immediate effect on the economy
>glass Steagall repeal caused the recession
Fucking kill yourselves morons, jesus christ

>republican control means no government interference
All these years obama leaf and you only get more retarded every time we talk

Lol no it didn't.

George Bush: we want everybody in America to own their own home. That's what we want.
youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68&nohtml5=False

only right wing retards could DINDU an entire 8 year GOP presidency