Transgender bread:

>transgender bread:
is it smart to treat gender dysphoria with hormones and surgeries?

It seems like the most cost effective way to somewhat relieve their misery, so yes, why not?

On the whole though, they are well under 1% of the population so it would probably be best if society paid them less attention.

First you need to actually diagnose gender dysphoria, to a very high standard.
When I was a kid I wished I was born a girl. I grew out of that phase naturally and now I'm very happy being a man, albeit a gay one.

no

/thread

me too
i remember i went through a phase when i was young wearing makeup and dresses
thank god my parents didnt take me to a kike doctor and give me those puberty blocking pills

when i was a kid i wished i was a paleontologist because i watched jurassic park.

that's why we don't let kids make serious, irreversible decisions until they're older

Diagnosis: Mental illness
Method of Treatment: Bullet to the brain.

Dysphoria: A fancy word for "dissatisfied".
- Gender Dissatisfied

No. It's insanely stupid and this practice will be our generations version of the lobotomy procedure. Future generations will look at us and ask "What the fuck were they thinking?"

Do hormone shock therapy.
Testosterone HRT therapy for males and estrogen therapy for females. Theoretically this should fix any deficiency or loose "wirings" in the brain. Because last time I checked, there was a theory that "trans genderism" or gender confusion issues were caused by the fetus & fetus brain not being exposed to sufficient levels of sex hormones.

Is it smart to throw someone thinking they can fly out of a window?

there is small minority(less than 1%) that are intersex (xxy, xyy,xxx) etc

There are at least two separate eitologies here. I doubt the hormone shock therapy you describe would do anything for AGPs, who are the more common kind in the West. Actually, it would probably make things worse.

can someone explain to me wtf is AGP

>diagnose
This. and generally the process is really rigerous in even liberal locations.

This, a kid wants to be whatever was suggested to them that week

>my bread didnt get exposed to enough heat in the oven so I'm going to throw it into the fire
okay senpai
you realize that when trannies get treated, they have to get their hormones checked by a doctor right? if they where abnormally low it would be known ahead of time unless someone is ignoring the standards of care.

Incest causes this, if you do it for generations. The trannies and homosexuals probably come from this also.

its a meme on lgbt by all the trannies there trying to sort out how to feel about all the tumblr tranny shit they get lumped in with. some fucking idiot named blanchard based their research on transexuals on two general extant transexuals, hsts and agp, basically the sexual focus of the tranners is predominantly (you can think of this as mtf's two genders) either attracted to men or women in sexual situations, normally themselves. Blanchard however was anti trans in general and memed bullshit that it was not dsyphoria that caused people to transition but wanting sexual gratification. In the abscense of a healthy trans culture lgbt adopted this meme as a reactionary step back from the distorted mutation of the truth of gender spectrum that the left peddles. so now two types of trans shill relentlessly about which is the more trans when in reality the only thing that makes you trans is dysphoria, and HRT and surgeries are a TREATMENT designed to reduce SYMPTOMS of dysphoria.

Autogynephilia. Being turned on by the thought of being a woman and wanting to be a woman.

no
It'd be smart to find drugs that make the dysphoria go away, not to ruin their body and hormonal balances

A bullet is the chepest and most time saving option.

>literally half of all "trans" people commit suicide after being irreparably mutilated with hormones and surgery.
>Is it a good idea?
>retards like this
WEW.
Just nuke the west up already, Kim.

No hormone treatments.
You need to make them understand they are mentally ill and that they can either live happilly as the gender they were born as, or suicide/euthanesia.

definition doesnt reflect its usage. thats just the literal meaning, the intended meaning is being a woman in a sexual situation, not just being a woman.

Autogynophiles. Basically a targeting disorder in an otherwise normal sex drive that causes it to idealize and fetishize itself as having a vagina rather than just fugging them.

Basically, there are "homosexual transsexuals" or "trans-kids" who have brains that look slightly femminized in a way very similar to the brains of more "normal" homosexuals. They show behavioral differences from normal children very early in life, basically acting like the other girls intuitivly right from the moment gender differences in behavior start. They transition young, are solely attracted to men, and don't experience any sexual thrill from "passing" and are generally not more fetishistic than the general population..

And then there are AGPs. They start out normal and generally don't typically feel any discomfort over their gender until puberty, when thoughts about gender start and gradually become more intrusive. They transition late in life and do not exhibit female typical behavior before this, indeed many of them hold hypermasculine jobs like being a mating or w/e and have a wife and children. They don't intuitively pick up feminine behavior and often spend a lot of money on coaches to teach it. They are either attracted to women still(you sometimes hear about them staying with their wives) or are bisexual. They do experience sexual thrill from passing as a woman, and their condition clusters with other fetishes as though it were itself a fetish.(which it sorta is)

There, now you know more about trannies than you ever wanted.

>I believe some shit i read on pol who hates tranners and wants to kill them all about how prevelant their satisfaction with their treatment is
you may as well buy into all the lefts dogma on why being white is bad.

You treat them with antipsychotics like Pimozode and watch as their delusions melt away.

Thinking you are someone who you aren't is often a sign of schizophrenia. Since thinking you are a different gender than you are is basically thinking you are someone else, I'd say transgenders are schizophrenic. Schizophrenia is a mental illness. Mental illnesses must be treated.

>this fucking shit
see this is exactly the kind of bullshit I'm refering to. expect most of this garbage to be off base as many people who beat the meat to men or being fucked respectively still have very young signs of being transgender and dysphoria regardless. the latter of which is the only criteria that matters for treatment to be effective, the other is just there to help rule out other problems. If you are AGP and you experiance persistant dysphoria, you are trans, it is not caused by your fetish.

good thing we base our medicine on science and not armchair philosophy

It's not just on Sup Forums. I was aware of the statistics on transgender suicide long before I even knew Sup Forums was a thing.
Look it up you retarded faggot.
Jesus Christ.
Also fucking faggot ass loser fucking ad hominem argument. Fucking pathetic. Read the fucking sticky you logically fallacious retard.
.

trying to change anything that was naturally in you like more feminine feeling through hormones is really not a good idea and you will end up fucking up your overall balance how it suppose to work but won't.

it depends if you just have gender dysphoria or if you have gender dysphoria AND depression/anxiety and other related issues. If you just have gender dysphoria then sure take the hormones and get the surgery. unfortunately surgery (excluding ECT in this convo) cannot instantly cure depression/anxiety nor can any medication that we know of. depression/anxiety is something that takes hard work to overcome add to it the hard work of recovering from gender reassignment surgery and your chances of overcoming your depression just hit 0%

>it is not caused by your fetish.

Oh sure, guess it's just a coincidence huh?

>relieve their misery
40% suicide rate.

But I'd wager that a lot of self diagnosed, lied-to-the-shrink trannies are just very lonely men who are more or less confused bottom gays. Male brain, female sex drive.

Nah this doesn't work unless you can turn back the developmental clock in the brain. If we could do that without serious consequences, the US millitary would be drugging people to make them learn foreign languages more thoroughly and gain native accents.

There is NO proof that cutting off a penis makes a psychiatric condition any better. Suicide is higher among those who have cut off their cocks. Transgenderism is an attempt to destroy the fabric of society.

>hey bro, you don't have a fetish, YOU ARE A WOMAN! the only way for you to be happy is to become a woman because you're trans! you're trans!
>"b-but i have other fetishes and can get my rocks off in a million different ways, i don't mind not being a chick as long as i can wear a bikini and jerk off every now and then"
>YOOOOU'RE TRAAAAAAAAAANS! THE WHOLE OF YOUR PERSONAL IDENTITY MUST BE BASED OFF THE MOST DEVIANT ASPECTS OF YOUR SEXUALITY!
Why are you faggots so millitant

That's like telling someone to start wearing a rug and calling themselves lassie because they jerk off to balto once a week
Or telling me that I need to cut the crap and dye my hair some crazy shit and start speaking japanese because I look at anime pornos for the sheer joy of having a boner

Speaking of, if simply having a boner is euphoria to you rather than a routine bodily function that does not compare to pretending to have a vagoober, you are definitely not trans.

you ahve to first be comfortable with yourself (not including gender) for you to have a successful transition. people will look at you funny and treat you differently (not like in a bad way but just different than what your used to) if you have social anxiety and your depressed and all of a sudden people start treating you differently than what your used to and your still getting used to the flood of new hormones your fucked its a wonder that the suicide rate isnt higher than 40%

>cutting off a penis
well... user I-...
They splay it open and regraft the nervous tissue around a small pouch created in the lower abdomen and use skin from the scrotum to create fake labia. Just cutting it off would be less disgusting.

or maybe it's because they fall for faggots like this and later realize that their identity was almost entirely male with the exception of their sexuality, and they were probably better off just taking it up the bum like a normal fag.

I was one of those guys who was definitely trans but then I realized I was more or less a normal greco-roman and just liked taking it up the bum every now and then, and had no female identity to speak of unless joining the art club instead of sports in elementary school was clear gender divergent behavior. I had a crossdressing and pretending to have tits fetish as a teenager but it died out pretty quick. It adds absolutely nothing to the experience. If anything, embracing being a man with something up his ass makes it hotter because you are no longer trying to simulate feminity and just pounding your poor bum like it's a vagina instead of the defecatory canal with a somewhat sensitive gland buried within it it is.

So, now I just let my gf finger my asshole.

>Implying being gay ain't a mental illness
>Implying the only reason they took it off the mental illness list wasn't do to pressure from liberals who are known to think with their hearts and not their brains

>Respect all.

What did they mean by this

>if you're bipolar you shouldn't take lithium
>if you have Wilson's disease you shouldn't take medication to reduce your natural body's ability to eliminate copper because it's unnatural

I don't have an educated opinion about the efficacy of HRT but this logic just comes down to "oh no, not CHEMICALS!!! they're UNNATURAL!" which is retarded