Open up your King James Bible to Romans chapter 1. Read verses 23 through to the end of the chapter.
>And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. >Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: >Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. >For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: >And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. >And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; >Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, >Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, >Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: >Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Sodomites are people who God has given over to a reprobate mind, and are filled with ALL unrighteousness. You've had the wool pulled over your eyes because you watch too many Jewish tv shows but the reality is that fags live hypersexual, degenerate lifestyles, engage in child molestation, and spread AIDS intentionally.
denlinger is a zionist christian covenant theology heretic. why would anyone listen to a single fucking word from this man's satanic mouth?
Ian Price
>muh 3000 year old book written by superstitious sandniggers!
Jackson Mitchell
Don't cut yourself on that edge little man.
Jason Edwards
M8 I didn't post anything by him. I just find his mannerisms funny and he has a lot of good KJV-related reaction images. His weird obsession with the Catholic Church, Jesuits, and Pastor Steven Anderson is also hilarious.
He is very strange indeed, but at least he's right on KJV only. But we need to be very careful with people like this because they teach a false gospel and false teachings.
Otherwise I actually agree with your post.
Parker Jackson
>christcuck Didn't say that >edge Objective reality is edge now? You sound like an SJW. Get fucked, religious beliefs come from an innate desire to feel purpose in a purposeless world. Reconcile your beliefs with the fact that faith in religion is far more prevalent in low IQ people. Your delusions of a magic Jew on a stick are nigger tier
Jordan Myers
>Objective reality is edge now? Objective reality is that God is real. And the Bible is God's word, stop trying to be an edgy atheist teenager.
Religious people are not only more successful and happier, but also built Western Civilization. Funny how God's laws and rules kinda work when you actually stick to them? Funny how that is huh?
Elijah James
>Objective reality is that God is real. The most ebin bait. Upboated.
Noah Richardson
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Juan Nguyen
Life, the universe and free will can not exist without God. Ergo: God is real.
Brayden Gonzalez
>Death to gays! >Woah there edgelord calling my book silly is crossing the line!
Sebastian Cox
>you should take everything in the bible seriously yeah like that part where it is ok to rape virgins.
Islam is the result of taking a holy book too seriously
Jason Foster
>yeah like that part where it is ok to rape virgins. The Bible NEVER says that, you little lying coward.
James Richardson
Hail Odinn!
Gas the fags!
Jose Rivera
Gay people are that way because they were gaybashers in previous lives. Karma's a bitch. I know.
Michael Evans
>Life, the universe and free will can not exist without God You got any evidence for that? Current cosmological models show no need for an "unmoved mover" as dipshits like you will insist.
Benjamin Brown
Upboat
Adrian Perry
It directly states the rapists of a girl should marry her. The taint of man's words in God's Word.
Ian Wilson
Isaiah 57:1 >The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth the cock down: and men of bottom nature are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come.
Tyler Baker
no but it does say to marry my daughter to her rapists, or stone her to death.
Jordan Rogers
Lmao, OP convert to Islam if you want to be an edgelord, untill then don't forget >turn the other cheek
Camden Ross
look up gay uncle theory. it can't be helped
Oliver Morris
if you are athiest you are retarded but being a christfag worshiping a kike on a stick and a book and religion made in the middle east by sandnigger kikes is way fucking worse
Isaiah Jones
You lying rats. It's referring to consensual sex. The previous verse literally talks about rape and says that the rapist shall die:
>But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die (Deu 22:25).
>betrothed meaning married >virgin meaning not married >its ok to rape someone who isn't married >its not ok to rape someone who is
am a Christian but you have to accept there are some parts of the bible that make no sense
Logan Walker
Betrothed literally means promised for marriage. When the Bible talks about rape, it specifically uses the word "force". When talking about sex, it says "lay with" or some similar term. I actually agree that if a man lies with a virgin, then he should marry her. That makes perfect sense.
>some parts of the bible that make no sense Keep telling yourself that atheist.
Luis Cox
am not an atheist. but hey if you want to take the Bible seriously on everything you do you.
Charles Cooper
>Sodomites are people who God has given over to a reprobate mind, and are filled with ALL unrighteousness >God makes you gay
Really stimulates my prostate
Jonathan Wright
Ha, goyim! so you think the homosexual pastimes & occasional practices of your forefathers the ancient Greek,s the Romans, and the Vikings are OK???
Think again! Please open up this Jewish Holy book and read why our God Yahweh will send you to Sheol!
Thomas Baker
He's right though
Matthew Sanders
Bryan Denlinger is only good on the KJV topic. Almost everything else he's full blown heretic
Camden Mitchell
No, it means that someone has gone so far away from God and ultimately rejected God's gift, that God literally gives up on them.
I personally believe that faggots are necessarily INCAPABLE of being saved, but there definitely comes a point when someone will never become saved because they've fallen so far from God and rejected him so much that they simply will never change their mind.
Benjamin Barnes
>muh jesus
Andrew Anderson
>all these angry atheists
Christopher Lee
>HURR DURR RAPE IS WRONG
Let's see about that
Open up your King James Bible to Deuteronomy 22:28-29
>If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not >pledged to be married and rapes her and they >are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty >shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young >woman, for he has violated her. He can never >divorce her as long as he lives.
You see Goyim, rape is not wrong as long as you have 50 silver Shekels to pay your victims father and hey if you have trouble finding a wife save up those shekels and rape the wife of your choosing.
POOF married forever.
Bentley Allen
>le ebin trole you atheists xDDD
Carson Bennett
see the women would be fucked if she didnt marry her rapist
nobody would marry her and she would have no way to survive
Benjamin Perez
>Homosexuality is wrong! >My book of ancient Jewish fan fiction says so!
Camden Adams
The verse is talking about consensual sex you idiot.
>If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
>Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
Meanwhile in reality, rapists will die:
>But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.
Samuel Jenkins
So what is it then?
Is the Bible a good book to get your morale compass or is it a practical guide on surviving in the middle east during the bronze age?
Brody Scott
>quoting a deliberately mis-translated version sucking up to a superstitious and degenrate king Almayya ama.
But anyway, everyone knows god hates fags, just look at them.
Jose Wilson
its gods morals its the right thing i agree with it too
it also says the father is ultimately in control if he wants to give his daughter to the rapist
Benjamin Myers
The Bible does not say rapists should marry their victims. That's a grotesque lie from the pits of hell.
Carson Wilson
Let's put it this way: who's smarter, you or God? Your dumb human morals do not trump God's morals. And the Bible does NOT condone rape. That's a sick lie, you little rodent.
Blake Anderson
read the article its pretty complicated
but its not necessarily a bad thing if thats the final solution that you had to agree on
its actually a punishment to the rapist because hes forced to take care of this women his whole life now
Kayden Morgan
It's a collection of ancient wisdom, myth, science and local beliefs, as well as the usual convenient sections endorsing the powers that be at the time, awkwardly inserted.
Much of the Old Testament is a travel guide to the area told by merchants. The story of Lott and the fall of Sodom is designed to be illustrated by huge landmarks as you travel along the main road. You can take a modern day tour that does just this, it's very interesting and beautiful riding along on donkeys and seeing all the words invested in the landscape.
The OT is a very involved Foundation Myth for Sheppardic Jews. Moses is particularly interesting, the bronze age aspirational equivalent of Superman.
It's got a decent enough moral code that gets updated, simplified and made better in the NT, obviously, by the simple act of incorporating the Golden Rule and certain elements of Buddhism. Revelations is a coded attack on the Roman Empire in an era devoid of Free Speech. This naughty satire set the tone for the famous Medieval attacks on authority dressed up as occultic tomes. Interestingly, the Pope of Hell is always depicted as a boy fucker, go figure.
Basically, it's way more interesting a document with a fascinating history than is ever taught in school or church.
Jonathan Campbell
Who is smarter. You or Buddha?
Brandon Jackson
Pic related you dumb faggot.
Angel Morgan
What on earth are you talking about? The Bible does NOT SAY that rapists should marry their victims. It's talking about CONSENSUAL SEX.
Ryan Sanchez
it does dude you have to understand women are a lot different than men from a biblical standpoint
they arent supposed to be like they are today
Deuteronomy 22:28-29King James Version (KJV)
28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
Wyatt Hernandez
Having lost her virginity, she would have been deemed undesirable for marriage—and in the culture of the day, a woman without a father or husband to provide for her would be subject to a life of abject poverty, destitution, and social ostracism. As such, the rapist was compelled to provide for the rape victim for as long as he lived. Thus, far from barbaric, the law was a cultural means of protection and provision. Furthermore, there was precedent under the Mosaic Law for the victimized woman not to marry the victimizer if her father determined that she could be provided for in a more suitable manner (Exodus 22:16–17). Thus, the law was not designed to force the rape victim into an unbearable marriage, but to secure her future and that of her children.
Has some user the linke to the YT video of the based Negro citing Romans 6:23 KJV with his blessed Negro voice and aggression desu?
Adam Sanchez
>lay hold on her, and lie with her
That's literally talking about consensual sex. You're lying to my face. The Hebrew word is "taphas", which means "to take hold of", and does NOT infer ill-will, criminal intent or force. The word for "lay down" is "shekahb" and the sentence reads "taphas shekahb" = "to take hold of her and lie with her". The Bible NEVER uses this word when talking about rape.
When it talks about rape literally 2 verse earlier, it literally says "FORCE HER AND LIE WITH HER", which uses a completely different Hebrew word, "chazaq shekahb" = "to force her and lie with her".
This is the lengths atheists will go to to perverse the Word of God. JUST READ YOUR BIBLE. LAY HOLD AND LIE WITH DOES NOT MEAN RAPE.
Gabriel Smith
>discussing hebrew that is the lengths christkikes will go to to speak the filthy jew language >i-it's not jewish, goy! >sure it's hebrew >totally not kike! r e t a r d e d
Joseph Williams
>Objective reality is this because I say so You're retarded.
Dominic Gray
The Word of God has no language. It can be translated into any language. The Bible says that people from many nations attended and heard God's word as it was spoken.
That's why this passage specifically makes a distinction between rape and consensual sex by calling rape "force" and calling the other "take hold of". The idea that the other usage is referring to rape is nonsensical.
Henry Campbell
>The Word of God has no language then why don't you quote the quran
Landon Long
Because the Quran is of Satan.
Brayden Evans
This kryptokike os a total buttplug. Sage goes in all fields.
Tyler Cooper
so the jewish language of hebrew is correct but the arabic language is incorrect and it all somehow makes sense to you because the jewish language of hebrew is god's own language and all others aren't you can't even formulate a coherent argument >muh hebrew muh hebrew muh hebrew dumb christkike
Asher Gray
Yeah, but nose kryptokike put out a video refuting Babylon USA a year before the movie even came out. He is a huge kike apologist, if not a kike himself, and says Mystery Babylon is the Vatican. He's a fucking retard.
Cooper Sanders
That's one of the old testament laws. Besides, there's logic behind it.
>Be proud father of a beautiful girl >Some disgusting degenerate decides to power drive her pussy without consent. >Rapist in custody, but daughter dealing with emotional trauma, not to mention might be pregnant. >According to law, rapist must marry daughter. >No way in hell would father let his daughter see the man. >She's under father's care. >Rapist is forced to support daughter financially, since the two are legally bounded. >Rapist tries to get a divorce. >Must be approved by a judge. >judge knows that he's a degenerate rapist. >kicks his butt out. >Rapist sees another beatiful daughter. >About to whip out dick but thought, "Man, I can't support another one."
Caleb Martin
Sup Husky?
Logan Taylor
The language is irrelevant. The Quran is a Satanic text inspired by the devil. Mohammed met Satan in the cave. Period. I don't care what language it's written in.
The Bible is God's word regardless of whatever language it's written in. God's word has no language.
Adrian Mitchell
it does imply rape because theres a whole different verse that deals with consensual sex
Exodus 22:16-17 “If a man seduces a virgin who is not betrothed and lies with her, he shall give the bride price for her and make her his wife. If her father utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the bride price for virgins."
also see its not bad idk why you would be opposed to this
atheists dont understand morality
Grayson Moore
Because the quran is the only holy book that is claimed to actually HAVE one language: Arabic. Strictly speaking ALL translations of the quran are not valid/canonical. Whereas the New Testament can and has been translated to dozens of languages without losing its validity.
Eli Cruz
>am a Christian but you have to accept there are some parts of the bible that make no sense You're not a Christian. You're not fooling anyone, Herschel They don't make sense yo you because spiritual things are spiritually discerned.
Aaron Perry
>The Bible is God's word no it isn't it's a jewish book and a shit one at that >God's word has no language. then why are you reading hebrew you're reading a jewish book and claiming it doesn't matter it's jewish because it really is god's words written down by kikes in their kike language of hebrew
there's no point you're beyond help ok schlomo
Ryder Perez
>theres a whole different verse that deals with consensual sex The Exodus verse is the ORIGINAL verse. Deuteronomy as a book is literally a re-iteration of the laws laid out in Leviticus, Exodus, etc. Do you know anything about the Bible?
So if the original Exodus verse tells you that it's talking about "enticing", then do you believe that the re-iteration of the same law in Deuteronomy is also talking about consensual sex when it specifically avoids using the word "force" as it does in the verse specifically referring to rape?
You're grasping for straws.
>its not bad idk why you would be opposed to this I oppose it because it's not what the Bible says. Pretty simple logic.
Luis Allen
>no it isn't Not an argument.
Jacob Flores
Original text of the New Testament was Greek.
Ayden Sullivan
you can't prove the bible is "the word of god" least of all when it's written in jew >greek ah yes the pure white greek language
Ryder Thomas
i disagree since its contrasted in the previous verses in deuteronomy when it first says what to do if you rape a betrothed women and then what to do for an unbethrothed women
Jason Foster
>you can't prove the bible is "the word of god" The Jews require a sign, but there shall NO SIGN BE GIVEN, except for the sign of the prophet Jonah.
You're not gonna be persuaded by any evidence even if there was undeniable evidence. Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God!
Asher Richardson
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Andrew Miller
I don't see how you can disagree when the two verses are specifically using language that separates "force" from "lay hold". Whether one says "betrothed" and the other "virgin" is irrelevant in this context. Betrothed literally means someone who is promised for marriage, not someone who is already married. A betrothed girl would have likewise been a virgin.
And the final nail in the coffin is really the original law as written in Exodus -- here it specifically says "entice".
Oliver Allen
>Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God! mazeltov! >undeniable evidence this is where you link a youtube video or a 1996-era website about "undeniable miracles and evidence for sodom"
Christopher Ortiz
kys
Parker Gomez
CF was right
Alexander Morgan
its different words but its meaning the same thing
one being engaged to be married is the significant factor whether you get put to death or obligated to take care of the damsel for all her days
if the father says so
Nolan Butler
Salvation is through faith in Christ Jesus. If there was undeniable evidence, then it wouldn't require much faith, would it? Faith is the evidence of things NOT SEEN. That's what the Bible says.
What you are saying right now is literally what the kikes said to Christ when he was on the cross: "COME DOWN FROM THE CROSS THAT WE MAY SEE AND BELIEVE!" Even though Jesus had already performed miracles in their sight. They refused to believe.
Justin Flores
Sorry, I'll go with what the Bible actually says. And it nowhere says "rape" or "force". Utter lunacy on your part, sir.
Ian Martin
look at all the translations then it does say seize or rape or lay hold its all the same thing
in this context at the end of dueteronomy 22 its talking about rape it doesnt just change to consensual sex for no reason after its expplicitley defining what to do when rape happens
Jack Mitchell
i get it you really really believe in jesus you love his so much and he'll reward you in the afterlife with eternal loving grace in heaven it's disgusting and so are you
Daniel Diaz
>if not a kike himself definitely looks like it
Brandon Johnson
>says Mystery Babylon is the Vatican he's right tho
Lincoln Bailey
I only read the KJV and will not defend other New Age translations.
Deuteronomy 22 is not talking universally about rape... It mentions different kinds of adultery and sexual intercourse. I think you should really go back to read the original laws as they were laid out in Exodus. You're just trying to read into the Bible your own wicked ideas. "Lay hold of and lie with" does not mean "rape". Where are you getting this weird ideas?! "Lay hold of" literally suggests that he lured the woman into sex or "enticed her". If we talk about "laying hold of" we're not saying he kidnapped and raped her. "Hey, Peter finally managed to lay hold of a woman. He's getting married in September". That means he found a woman to marry, not that he kidnapped, raped and forcefully married her. Sick mind.
And if we are really curious, we can just go to Exodus and see that it says "entice". Case closed my friend.
Robert Garcia
The Gospel is a stumbling block to the Jews, and foolishness to the Greeks -- but to us who are saved it is the power of God!
Zachary Watson
seduce is not the same word as lay hold of its not even close
im not reading something into it theres other christians who defend this natural interpretation of gods law
ive found on the internet why wouldnt they all be saying what youre saying then. i found several articles defending the idea that it might be best to marry the rapist
its not saying thats a good thing that is supposed to happen
its a punishment to the rapist to make him provide for the women all his days
its a judgement
its not a normal way that people would get married
youre the one reading things into it
its a terrible unfortunate circimunstance
but is gods law judgement of how to deal with it
Austin Lewis
the law in exodus is for when a women is seduced
the one in deuteronomy is a different law for when a unengaged women is raped
i dont think deuteronomy is a mindless repeat ofthings god already said
Andrew Wood
Why is /ck/ so full of homosexual enablers? > Link very related, they are so cucked.
William Rogers
>The Hebrew word is "taphas", which means "to take hold of", and does NOT infer ill-will, criminal intent or force
Absolutely correct
The word "taphas" doesn't mean rape and is much more similar to the word seduced, here is another verse in which the word "taphas" was used
>Gen 39:12 She caught him (taphas) by his garment, saying, Lie with me: and he left his garment in her hand, and fled, and got him out.
Did the masters wife rape Joseph? Of course not that makes no sense she tried to seduce him or lay hold to him (taphas), you are just a sicko with a reprobate mind
Austin Myers
calling gods law sick lol
>She caught him (taphas) by his garment, saying, Lie with me:
if a man did this to a women that would be rape
seduce is still consensual and "attract powerfully" is another definition
so theres no laying hold in seducing
laying hold of someone is raping them
you have a atheist mind because you agree with modern atheists who wouldnt understand gods judgement
Kayden Flores
Implying that you don't take the Bible seriously in everything it says. You claim to be a Christian, so I assume you consider the Bible the word of God. So you don't take God seriously with everything he says. You have no fear of the Lord.
Repent.
Nolan Ward
>so theres no laying hold in seducing
So if she raped him why did she ASK HIM TO LIE WITH HER?
>Genesis 39:12 And she caught him by his garment, saying, LIE WITH ME: and he left his garment in her hand, and fled, and got him out.
When does a a rapist ask his victim to lie with them? The whole point of rape is to force them not to give them a choice or ask them to lie with you, if youre asking someone for sex and not forcing them you are trying to seduce them,
Jaxon Hughes
the word you used "taphas" is only referring to the part where she grabbed the person
doesnt have anything to do with what happened there
Joseph Butler
Now you're arguing semantics, the word taphas is the same word used "to lay hold" in the Deuteronomy verse you were quoting, you said the word tephas was used in a rape context i said it wasnt it was used in a seduction context and then showed you another verse in which the word tephas was also used in a seducing context, you still havent showed me the word used in a rape context like you originally stated or like the bible does a few verses before