What does Sup Forums think of alcoholics?

what does Sup Forums think of alcoholics?

i could tell you a sad story about what made me one but i won't

how do you beat this? enough comments on my strength i already know i'm not hard

Tell the story you sick fuck

Change routine. If you mostly drink in bars, do something other than go to a bar in the evening, then take a few shots an hour before bed

If you mostly drink at home, do something other than sit around at home for a few hours after work give yourself less time to sit around and drink. Take a few shots a bit before you go to bed

Exercise works pretty well because it tuckers you out and stimulates the ole GABA to a degree. weed can also help with the insomnia and mitigate withdrawal symptoms

Either way, you can't drink to get drunk for a few years. You have to treat the shit like medicine

Stop drinking if you know what's good for you. I get drunk about every three days and start shitposting to an embarrassing degree. It's just really hard to be sober in this world.

I think it's a weakness of will nothing more nothing less.

Drinking is the same escape some people get from excessive masturbation, eating, cutting etc. It's not a disease, just a lack of self control. Alcohol is probably the easiest of those bad habits to kick, simply because it's costly, not natural, not required to live, and requires inconvenience.

You have to eat, so eating disorders are hard to kick.

Jacking it is free, so it can be done on a whim.

Cutting yourself can be free so same as jacking it.

Don't get me wrong, I like drinking.i enjoy some whiskey after a long week. But I know damn well that I shouldn't drink during the week because I have to keep in shape for my job. I shouldn't get drunk because I always have shit to do. I shouldn't drink all the time because it's irresponsible with my money.

You need to set your priorities straight man.

cool id

>what does Sup Forums think of alcoholics?

The emotionally crippled who can't take control of their own mind, let alone their lives.

I don't blame them/you for being weak, it's what you are, but I don't have to like it.

My neighbor just died from alcoholism a few days ago. Drinking finally caught up with him and he had his leg amputated, went blind, and frequently shit and pissed himself everywhere he went. All that was caused by medical problems that came from his heavy drinking. I was going to mow his grass for him when I looked in his house and noticed him dead on the floor with a beer in his hand. He went through hell and back in Vietnam only to end up on the floor shitting and pissing himself to death.
And now I've noticed that the drinking is catching up with my dad to.

Make a guess as to how I feel about alcoholics.
That shit will kill you, don't act like you're immune to it. My neighbor always said "muh Dutch and Irish genes allows me to drink all I want"

It's easy to think you're defective, and you can't be fixed. You can be. I learned the hard way I needed a strong support system around me with total honesty.

That meant telling my girlfriend I needed to get clean.Telling my buddies we weren't going to the bar anymore. Before my brother's wedding, quietly letting them know I wasn't drinking.

It also means finding what's got you so eaten up inside that you've done this to yourself. Talk to a therapist, meditate, do some soul searching, whatever works best for you. It's hard work, though, and it'll be painful. You were drinking because doing what I just described was previously inconceivable to you.

You can have a life again, and you can be that guy you remember being. You just gotta take the hits, do the work, and be honest with the people who care about you (news flash, people do care about you. I know it's hard to believe.)

Good luck.

Pretty gay ID.

Oh look it's another pothead shill thread.

>how do you beat this?
every day you wake up you have another chance to make your life better. it doesn't happen all at once but in little steps, and there will be set-backs. that's life, we fall down, we get back up.

what you have said is absolutely fucking retarded

ameribros in this thread are speaking some sense tho

Easy go to a KJV Bible believing church and really get plugged in. I struggled with drug abuse and a broken heart for a decade but the Holy Spirit has healed me and I've never been happier. I've still have things to do to improve my situation but the great promise has filled me with undescribable hope. Read the KJV bible, beg Jesus to save you.

I'm an alcoholic too m8
I'm right in the fucking thick of it too
Shits fucking gay, people don't understand how addictive it is because they casually drink and think wanting to drink with buddies is the same urge as being an alcoholic and feeling that emptiness in your stomach and depressing loneliness in your mind
The fact that you recognize you have a problem is step one, the next step is getting help

Some former meth addicts who drank to kick the amphetamines consider it as getting a monkey off your back only to find an ape on your chest
It's fucking hell

Just quit pussy

Have you ever been addicted to anything besides cock m8?
Didn't think so, fucking leaf

>i could tell you a sad story about what made me one but i won't
You're Australian?

i'm just tired of death man

dead family, dead friends, it never ends until we're all dead does it? fucking maturity is the hallmark of accepting this but i'm not mature

that sounded funnier in your head no doubt lol

>waaaah it's tooo hardd i'm a fucking degenerate pussy loser waaah my life sucks i can't stop ingesting alcohol i have no choice!

You're a pathetic degenerate.

>Just quit pussy
GTFO 12 step faggots
>cracks beer
kys, all of you

Let me add on, if you have even the slightest suspicion that you might go through withdrawals (heavy sweats, muscle twitches, lack of focus,panic attacks) PLEASE go to a doctor if it is within your means.

I had blood pressure of 165/100 and had a seizure alone in my apartment. I'm lucky I'm here. I walked down my block to and Urgent Care, told them the truth, and they gave me BP meds and stuff to ease through withdrawals. YMMV but my clinic had a doctor onsite.

Alcohol withdrawal is not something you fuck around with. Shit's worse than coming off heroin, it can seriously kill you.

i hope you suffer

>how do you beat this?
Stop drinking

I don't fucking know man. I'm hammered, too. In this insane world alcohol is the only thing that fucking makes sense

Nobody's mature, people just fake it because they don't want to accept life for the what it truly is
People dying isn't a bad thing faggot, unless they're dying in tragic accidents, death is natural. I know it's shitty but you just gotta move on and either meet new people or have kids or some shit so more than likely you'll have someone to love until they're sad bc you died
I literally never said any of what you implied, I'm trying to stop, I know I'm a pathetic degenerate but a hole like this looks a lot easier to get out of until you're in it

it never ends. the dying will continue long after you are gone. death isn't terrible. it's sad, but it is as natural as the day you were born. ive lost all my family, most of my friends from growing up, mentors, everybody is gonna die. All those people stay with you. The way you beat death is to create life in those you meet, you teach them, and when you're gone, they will teach others. Leave your mark on people's souls and you will live forever.

Fuck, ignore the Joo in my ID. I'm not a fucking kike

I quit drinking all the time recently

feels good man, this is years after I almost died from a blackout episode too. Should've quit then T B H

Literally think 12 steps are gay, but the first step is actually the really only first step
How can you fix something if you don't think there's anything to fix you autistic fuck
>beer
Bet you way 250 lb

smoke buds t b h

Drinking is just as insane as the world m8, the only reason it makes sense is bc your brain is dependent on it
Thanks for this thread OP you kept me from leaving to go buy booze p

Quitting is hard the gut pain is like hell for the first week is hell but you can push through it annon if you didnt want you wouldn't have posted
best of luck

you're using alcohol to fill in a void deep inside your soul but you're only making it worse by drinking everyday. You're drinking to numb your true emotions and how you're really feeling. It's easy for me to tell you that you have to quit all of a sudden but you probably won't listen to me anyways. Seriously quit that habit cold turkey and let all of the physical and emotional pains kick in cause it'll be good for you.

This. A support system is really important.

Not sure how to quit because I actually enjoy being a functional alcoholic and have every intention of doing it until my liver gives out in my 50s. The only way I can pretend to be amused by normal social interaction and family life is via dumbing myself down with a magical elixer called bourbon.

How do you not die of alcohol withdrawal?

Becoming a fascist helped my friend. See the virtues of the paths you may choose and make your choice. There is only one right one but many wrong ones.

I was one for two years. biggest nightmare of my life. do everything you can else you end up fat and braindead. stop drinking user

In the dark times take whatever support you can from knowing anonymous voluntary outcasts from around the world are rooting for you to get stronger and overcome.

I'll recommend AA. Yes, the program sucks and is filled with some of the most moronic, obnoxious, holier than thou people on the planet, but the program itself makes sense. Even if you don't use AA, I can tell you about what makes AA work.

First of all, it provides a support system. You have a bunch of people around you who have gone through similar shit and gotten through, and want to help you. Alcoholism is an isolating issue, so you need something the opposite of that, to be part of something. Second, it provides a twelve step system that forces you to stop being a selfish piece of shit. You have to list your problems, admit to them and why you are a fuck up, then do something about them and stop using them as a crutch for your drinking. Last of all, once you've stopped being a fuck up, you take what you have learned and try to have a meaningful impact on other people, something absolutely necessary to live a happy and fulfilling life.

You don't have to go to AA to do these things, but if you can stay sober for a little while and manage to do these things, you will not only be able stay sober, but have a fulfilling life while doing so. Pros of the program are it's free and provides all the essential framework to stay sober, the downside is you're in AA with all the twats in it. I'll be damned if it didn't help me, if the courts didn't force it down my throat I would've never done it, but even I can reluctantly admit that it actually worked. It didn't get me sober in the first place, that's on you, but it did something I didn't think possible, to be sober and be content with myself.

How do you cope? How do you keep the feelings of going insane at bay? My mom was an alcoholic and my dad a coke head. I'm predispositioned to addiction

Drunks rarely succeed in quitting because of their inherent self-pity. That is the root of being a lush and there's nothing to be done about it. Extremely few alkys escape.

Don't bother. Try other drugs instead to switch habits. Heroin is less deadly than booze addiction. Just don't share needles.

It is how you drink. I drink mostly beer, or try to. Alcohol to me is like a coffee and cigarettes. If I am tired from a long day of work and little to no sleep alcohol can make me stay up longer.

You sound like me. But I try and drink one day out of the week.

Not all drinking is good, not all drinking is bad for you either.

How much do you have to drink to be considered an alcoholic?

I used to drink every 2 days and that shit started fucking up my personal life
I now drink about every 5 days
I would like to quit completely
Do you have to drink like every day to get liver disease and shit?

My trigger is social occasions. I basically have to be a shut-in to remain sober.

I think it is a physiological condition that makes your body process alcohol like a powerful psycho-stimulant (eg. cocaine). I can drink a bottle of wine and have completely coherent, intelligent conversations. I think my baseline mental state is low in dopamine so when I take alcohol it just makes me act like a normal person i.e., being sociable and able to get tasks done efficiently.

Stop drinking, don't give in when it's hard. Realize you're going to have to suffer and then eventually it'll get better as time goes on. You have to just do it, you have to have the determination to do it. This is why people talk about rock bottom, something happens to them where they can't accept that will happen again and have to quit. That's the easy way. Have the fortitude to just quit without hitting rock bottom and just do it. Embrace the pain and do it regardless, prove to yourself that you can.

It's not a disease. It's failure. Like being fat.

A genuine disease comes from extemporaneous circumstances. Lifting your arm to put shit into your mouth doesn't count.

honestly if the only thing that stimulates your mind in this world FULL of knowledge is alcohol then just kys

there are a MILLION things better then drinking which will improve your life yet you take the easy way out, i have no sympathy

>self-pity
i'm just sad they're dead lad i can't fix anything now

life punches your ticket and thats it

I barely cope
I've only been sober a little over 24 hours and I'm barely making it rn
I basically just force myself to distract myself by seeing my girlfriend or going outside or working or playing vidya
It doesn't work too well

Cubes and weed cured my alcoholism and helped me quit smoking.

>Tfw addicted to weed, alcohol, porn, fast-food, and cutting

Difference is that alcohol and drugs make you physically and mentally addicted instead of just mentally addicted like food, fapping, cutting, gambling, etc.

If you are a real deal alcy and go cold turkey you can die, but you have to be a HARDCORE alcy.

Sounds like you just have anxiety and alcohol lowers your inhibitions. It's extremely common. You can ease your anxiety without alcohol with exposure therapy. You have to not take the easy way out and just bear the pain of going out without it and eventually it'll get better through frequent exposure.

death is just the way of the world, man. It just so happens that some people leave sooner than they should. Others get lucky and stay around for longer. The only real option to getting around this is to just learn to accept it as a fact of the universe, and for us to find a new way forward with life.

The absolute best way to kick an addiction is to change your surroundings. Move out to a new setting and make new friends, meet new people that you can care for and enjoy. just remember that if you're in deep to either get some BP meds, or taper off, or you risk dying if you go full cold turkey.

i know a bunch of shit too

never made me feel better. want to argue about the stoics? means fuck all cunt fuck you

I would disagree visible drunks with no self control rarely succeed people who have a shit time and fall into alcoholism yet keep hold of self awareness are very different dont disheartened drunk annons who are getting better

You're not super fucked, but you're not totally good either
It depends on your genetics, how much you drink, how healthy you are other than the drinking, all sorts of shit

The basic signs of alcoholism are as so:
Once you take one drink, you don't want to stop usually until you are preeeetty fucked up
Over time, you've slowly needed to drink more to get fucked up

unhealthy stuff my dude but reversible for sure. get a grip

Lmao I might be an alcoholic but at least I'm not you

I am one, so I can't judge. The only opinion you need to worry about is God's, and, spoiler alert: Drunkards don't make it. If we don't straighten up, we're done.

That just means you're the average 17 year old Sup Forumstard. If you're older than that's concerning.

> implying the two are mutually exclusive

Some day you will die. How you prefer to occupy that time is purely objective. You arent granting yourself immortality or leaving a lasting mark that will change the course of humanity by reading The Art of War.

>get shitfaced
>treat loved ones like shit
>regret it and feel like dying for a week
>do it again next week or a few days
desu I just can't deal with how things are out of my control. Society is being destroyed and so I sit here and drink since there's nothing else I can do.

Not sure how to stop it other than having kids to support.

>tfw don't know how to cook so fast food is my only option
I'm still skinny but I just want a hot meal sometime.

lets die then

Try rehab...
I'm in one right now.

Exactly this. Drink moderately, preferably in good company that will tell you when you've had enough.

>Change routine. If you mostly drink in bars, do something other than go to a bar in the evening, then take a few shots an hour before bed
The bar is a social experience which is a big deal in drinking. The first beers i ever had were not in a bar but when out with friends or coworkers then we drink as a group.

Drinking really is a social event.
>Take a few shots a bit before you go to bed
Doesn't alcohol fuck up with your sleep?

My friend works in an inpatient rehab facility, and he says the alcoholics are almost always more disgusting than the junkies. A lot of the patients are tricked by their friends or family to get to the facility, and after they agree to stay they will send someone to their house/apartment to get some of their belongings and take pictures. He says there's usually dried vomit, blood, shit, and urine all over the place.

I come from a long line of lazy people. My first beer money was from my own father who grew up with an alcoholic father for 18 years who was sober for 7 years. He then gets angry of my drinking now. Go figure.

He never encouraged work in his two sons. In fact it is embarrassing to account for other family members who don't work like my brother.

Sometimes you have do things to get things done. Like if you did something drunk you can say you were drunk. If you did something not drunk you are "crazy".

That is coming from my dad who never knew sanity in his own life.

quick question, hiw do i know if im an alcoholic?

it takes a LOT for me to feel "drunk" i guess, im still mentally aware of whats going on and can still process whats happening, but mitor function begins to suffer and my face goes numb. but i can drink like this for two or three solid days then completely stop for weeks/months at a time. also, i don't know what a hangover is supposed to be / feel like. am i even drinking enough to be considered drunk?

Why die, when you're still alive?
Stopping isn't impossible, my dude. Just difficult. And we all wind up having to do difficult shit we don't want to do. Dying seems hardly much of an option when you can focus on quitting and lead a real, productive, and satisfying life, instead. Will it take willpower? Yes, we have to put some effort into it. But it's power that you have, if you're willing to dig deep enough to find it. Think about it.

valium taper from a doctor

>tfw defeated all of my demons except for weed
not sure if i can kick that one tho desu