How do you 'stop' an ideology?

How do you 'stop' an ideology?

No meme answers please. I am genuinely interested in how you could realistically do it.

depends what you mean by stop. communists just decided to kill anyone with half a brain who supports an ideology they didnt like, worked pretty well.

Fight it fiercely and decisively while also offering an alternative ideology with as much passion.

Falseflag attacks
e.g. cancersville

Kill everyone who believes in it and destroy their books.

>communists just decided to kill anyone with half a brain who supports an ideology they didnt like
>Kill everyone who believes in it and destroy their books.
Meme answers. You cannot do this in the 21st century without massive backlash and more anger.
How would you go about implementing an ideology if you are trying to convince someone who has spent their entire life raised to think and believe a certain way?

>Meme answers. You cannot do this in the 21st century without massive backlash and more anger.
That's literally the only way to destroy an ideal.

Well, you can slowly kill ideologies by having your own ideology grow under the basis of reason. Of course, ideologies which are not based on reason can never convert anything because they are balls of lies. That is why communism, globalism, zionism, marxism, Shariah law and black supremacy will never take root, because they are based on lies and deceit.

No

Undermine its legitimacy.
Ideology lives and breathes on belief that aligns with peoples sentiments, the more radical (distantly removed from reality) the more its members are like religious zealots.

Leftists who fiercely oppose religious conservatism are the epitome of ironic morons with no self-awareness of their beliefs and actions whatsoever, they fiercely oppose tradition and religious tenants yet they have their own (thy shalt not hate, thy shalt not discriminate, thy shalt not be racists, thy shalt virtue signal, thy shalt condemn, shame and guilt trip as a group everyone who does not follow these tenants be thine souls damned as
>heatens

>present a better option
>censor or kill everyone that is of that ideology

Inception

you could keep an iron grip over schools and media but theres bound to be pockets of ideas you dont like growing someplaces

>How would you go about implementing an ideology if you are trying to convince someone who has spent their entire life raised to think and believe a certain way?
well for anyone in the west, this is how we grew up. Id say feeding them factual historical information tht contradicts what theyve learned will make them curious and suspicious enough for them to start going down the rabbit hole

This only works for above average intelligence people. A lot people experience negative physical reactions when presented with facts like literal shaking and nausea. Then they continue to go on believing what they believed before.

>You have to destroy the value that people attach to the beliefs that the ideology represents
Interesting post user. Thanks for taking the time to write it in my thread. But still it seems the pattern is to only destroy the ideology through means of force. But that would still result in backlash and persuading fence sitters to join or side with the ideology you tried to erase.
Obviously having a totalitarian regime would be easy in theory, but changing someones thoughts, beliefs and way of life is surely a lot more complicated than restricting media and information. For example, in Holland where cannabis is legal, the black market for the product isn't has high compared to a black market where it is illegal. Wouldn't this apply to information, but with the internet it would be relatively easy to have access to it as well?
>will make them curious and suspicious enough for them to start going down the rabbit hole
I agree with 's post, as for example there are many ex-Muslims who were intelligent and brave enough to leave their religion, but for a country in the middle east where it is a majority is low IQ, how would you go about changing it?

>But still it seems the pattern is to only destroy the ideology through means of forc

Two ways are most favorable.
You provoke a figurehead of the ideology into an extreme emotional display or you create conditions in which he or a group associated/representing the ideology digs their own graves. They must either seem weak or extreme, if they can be lured into displaying either the ideology will be harmed.

The best method is not force but ridicule, ridicule can kill a movement in 1 swoop if perfectly done, it is very destructive. Imagine people starting to believe fanatically in something, being pulled towards an ideological persuasion as being in their interest and representing them, they become emotionally invested in it, then, all of sudden it is brutally ridiculed to the point of being a laughing stock.
Internally all of their sentimental attachment to the ideology can be destroyed with one well executed ridicule.

The guillotine seems to work

source: french revolution

In current year? Impossible.
Christians got rid of paganism pretty effectively by burning books and killing intellectuals but there was no internet back then.

If you dont like the genocide route , you can always fake one and blame the ideology you want to destroy for it; you do need to the capabilities to fake 6 million deaths though. That will take care of it for at least 70 years.

Unless you do a bunch of 1984-tier historical revisions, burn books and kill anyone who holds those beliefs it's pretty much impossible. So doing it in a humane/ethical way is impossible.

You kill it. Anyone who says you can't kill an ideology is unfamiliar with the atomic bomb.

Machiavelli teaches us that you have to slaughter it's adherents and also kill their heirs. A modern example (as in against ideological enemies rather than dynastic ones) of it in practice in Joseph Fouché during the French revolution.

Note that you can never truly supress Right wing ideas as they are always based on human nature and natural order, and will re-arise organically.

>a figurehead of the ideology into an extreme emotional display
What if that figurehead has been dead for a thousand years? I can understand if it was someone like Stalin, but when it is someone who is as praised as Jesus, it can become a lot more complicated.
>all of sudden it is brutally ridiculed to the point of being a laughing stock
I think this may be the closest way to undermining an ideology we have so far. The creators of South Park made a laughing stock of the Mormon church, but there was little backlash. Scientology had backlash but it was never to the point of extremism. If it was done with a more violent religion, mocking it can cause more deaths like Charlie Hebdo.
Like I said previously, it cannot be done without causing a global political outrage.
Cannot be done today without relighting the cold war.
Wouldn't that apply to the left wing as well?

>How do you 'stop' an ideology?
you can't 'stop' an established ideology
you can subvert one by teaching the adherents children conflicting or opposing viewpoints

that just killed the movement, the ideology still exists in Japan to this day

you can preempt the ideology you dont like, become the leader of the opposition and subvert it into a more acceptable form

No meme here

>Like I said previously, it cannot be done without causing a global political outrage
Machiavelli describes the solution to this problem as follows: do all the killing at once at the very beginning of your reign in the shortest possible time. Then after that, rule justy. All the outrage will be contained to one discrete moment, then will be forgotten and erased by your good rule and the fear you will inspire by setting the example. The mistake is to run a continuous tyranny of never ending executions (or "permanent revolution" in the modern sense.) Do all the killing up front and quickly, then normalise things. Always frame the killings as something extraordinary but justified for reasons XYZ.

A real world example is the Night of the Long Knives killing off all of Hitlers enemies in one quick swoop early on, then the normalised rule until the war broke out.

>What if that figurehead has been dead for a thousand years? I can understand if it was someone like Stalin, but when it is someone who is as praised as Jesus, it can become a lot more complicated

Then you undermine current authorities spreading and maintaining it, that or you attack whatever is appealing people towards it, in religions people tend to feel safe in the socially cohesive community environment the religion creates. Creating discord and splintering the group has been the traditional way of weakening religions.

You send in a clown to take down a formidable preacher, the clown takes away the authority of the preacher and undermines his message.

>How do you 'stop' an ideology?

You should join the CIA.

They know all the things, and don't even have to ask Sup Forums stuff.

/sarcasm

You kill everyone who knows about it, burn all the books and evidence of it ever existing and replace it with your own.

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