/esg/ ETHNOSTATE GENERAL: (Part 4) HEART OF TEXAS EDITION

ITT we discuss the possibility of a pure, white, ethnostate and its inner workings, and what you envision said ethnostate to look like in 20 years, should it work out.
Discuss our government and how you would like the ethnostate to be ran as well.
Current topics:
>Location (Beginning to narrow it down, Texas is looking promising)
>Organization and logistics (We need more on this)
>Possible help from existing groups like NWF and TradWorkers Party (Possibly the many local white identity groups in Texas)
>Flag designs and Names (Pic related has been well receive but a name that resonates with all whites still eludes us)
>Sustainabiltiy and energy/economy options (Since Texas is increasingly likely, keep the local environment in mind)

SUPPORT THE WHITE ETHNOSTATE!

HAIL VICTORY

Other urls found in this thread:

twitter.com/Texas_Front
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ghost_towns_in_Texas
youtube.com/watch?v=lvoEt287GBE
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fraser_Tytler,_Lord_Woodhouselee#Debatable_Attribution
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Why not just join TWP or American Vanguard?

>CALLING ALL TEXAS ANONS

We welcome any advice on regions suitable for setting up shop, with property prices and the possibility of expansion in mind. Emphasis on sustainable living space for multiple families.

Because they are working on other projects right now that does not explicitly focus on a physical settlement. This is an all encompassing initiative that includes them and all other like-minded parties, we welcome their support and count on it!

What do you guys think of this flag?

I don't think Generation Identity would very much approve of us stealing their flag, Merkel.

Texan here. The quickest way to do what you want would be to got before the land commission. Or a county council. And petition use for some land, or buy the land and and go before the council to be exempt from county ordnances

>another kekistan

The area you should look for should be north of san Antonio. Fair weather and white germans abound in the hill country. But the east has huge forests. Good lumber and people

>Anti-kekistan

This community will be based on one commandment, one universal law - the 14 Words. It will be our pledge of allegiance.

No civic nationalism here.

>Texas is looking promising

good luck getting all the blacks and beaners out.

dank mothafucking flag OP

City states my friend. Later we can form our own party and do juat that

>Merkel
What?

kekistan was edgy too, then plebbit got to it

I would split Europe into the Mediterranean, Slavic, and Celto-German unions.

As for America, that is tough because most of it's wealth is concentrated in extremely diverse areas. Unless you think rural regions are developed enough to be a launching point for an ethno-state, I think you're SOL.

Thanks anons. We're trying to narrow it down from here. Tell us more about San Antonio? Is the area outside the city free of antifa mobs? It would be preferable to have a degree of isolation, so somewhere out of the way is not out of the question. Are there any ghost towns or failed towns up for auction?

Checking in
So what do you think is more likely
A civilization collapse, followed by choas, out of which a white ethnostate arises
Or, a migration, followed by succession, followed by war (hopefully skip the war part)
Thoughts?

>muricans ruining ethnic nationalism too
fuck off

it's never going to happen

>As for America, that is tough because most of it's wealth is concentrated in extremely diverse areas.
Its not when you look at the neighbourhoods, mainly white and Jewish, sure those little whitopia's are within nigger cities, but, to act like these wealthy folks are friends while tyrone and Muhammed is fuckin ridiculous.

We don't need the whole state. We're starting small, just an ethnic enclave where everyone is of the same mind. do you want to community where white identity can become the norm and groups like TWP can hold meetings and bring the various movements together. Over time families and communities all become towns and counties. We are going to grow an organic ethnostate from the ground up!

there is the league of the south also. additionally, there is Utah. what they share is a mythos/ethos centered around religious dogma/doctrine; but...if you can LARP on an obscure website successfully, you can also pretend to be a devout 'insert doctrine here' in order to be among your own, gain stability, minimize contact with bad people, settle down with a non-roastie and build a family.

>I pledge allegance to my race of the united states of my people. And to the republic for whicgh white people. One white people under a white God.

Ever notice the Alt-right/Neo Nazis always show models and shit when talking about the glorious white race but look like fatass neckbeards who cant get laid and are pissed that their girls have had enough of their shit, or like discount Bill Gates?

such is the power of propaganda. too bad everyone to the left of you sees through it.

Your (((choice of flag))), user

Kekistan was a Sargon of Akkad meme. Nothing about it was edgy you artard.

Look up borne. And the hill country. Its a bastion of white germans. As far as abandoned cities. Ill search but none i have heard of. However land is non issue. You can find forclosured properties for like 20000 and those are like always 200 to 500 acres. Also as long as you are out of the city there wont be much like antifa around

>merkel supports a white nationalist movement
>the spartan flag is jewish

(((you))) really activated my almonds. I think may be on to something with you.

What's your opinion of Texas Front?
>twitter.com/Texas_Front

>Ever notice the Alt-right/Neo Nazis
Never actually met one myself

that wp symbol in the middle looks off, otherwise nice flag.

Your strawmanning doesn't speak for us. I have a wife and want to raise my family among their own people. Fuck off.

Not something we should be associated with before setting this up

I'm talking about the EU flag you keep posting with, not the Generation Identity flag

Waco 2.0

Heres a list of towns. Not sure about buying them but squatting will work fine

Well nigger, which flag do you think I was talking about when I posted an image of a flag instead of posting without one?

Fuckin christ.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ghost_towns_in_Texas

Socialism is gay

Thanks!

Anons take a look, thoughts?

THE LONE STAR STATE BITCH

TEXAS STANDS ALONE

1) Strong Guns
2) Plenty of fertile land + natural resources
3) Strong job market
4) Good base of nationalistic Whites
5) Mild Weather
6) Coastline
7) The Alamo

The Dallas-Fort Worth area is a staunch conservative bastion and would be a great place to start.

Let's hear more about the Dallas-Fort-Worth area, user

Newfoundland is an ideal spot for an ethnostate.

>99.3% white
>vast majority Christian
>island is stuck in the 60s-70s
>modernization almost completely skipped over more than half of the island
>mudslime rapefugees are told to avoid Newfoundland and instead go to other parts of Canada due to the racism
>non-white tourists complain about how traditional and xenophobic the people are
>400 years of near-isolation created its own culture that you can't find anywhere else
>genocided every last native on the island and gloat about it to this day
>MUN is considered the only university in Canada where you can express right-wing viewpoints and not be labelled a nazi by retards
>rural women are still incredibly sub-servant to men
>newfies are incredibly nationalistic for Newfoundland, not for Canada
>extremely large folk music scene
>newfies are quickly waking up that confederating with Canada was a bad idea
>the rest of canada is afraid of newfoundland's whiteness so much that the canadian government pays comedians to spread anti-newfie jokes to try and shame us
>extremely rural population
>most people are gun-owners
>tons of outdoors-people
>has its own TV programs that don't blast anti-white propaganda, unlike canadian TV programs
>not afraid to be racist even towards other whites, newfies fucking hate the french and even fellow anglos who don't act newfie

Cons
>everybody's poor and on welfare (thank leafistan for ruining our economy conveniently at around the time pro-newfie independence sentiment was rising)

3.5m???? really wtf lets buy this

Did you want to help recruitment? Cause thats how you help recruit

consider this:
>go onto Youtube
>search fro 'Prepper'
>take a look at the community
>notice the trend(s) in people who adhere to/are proponents of these concepts
>and lastly, consider that they are planning for a collapse and surviving a collapse.

Additionally:
>(hopefully not placing too much unnecessary importance on it) consider the RAISE act which will make citizenship to the US from Europe easier.
Translation: While there is an obvious push to make Whites uncomfortable living in formerly White nations. The result is White-flight. The US while not necessarily the most desired choice for Europeans, may be a short term solution to long term progeny. From there, upon establishing/re-establishing self-determination, better genetics, smarter not-dumbed-down children and the removal of Marxist institutions; expansion becomes a more viable option

An ethno-state is the dumbest fucking idea ever.

I heard some interview on nordfront with Matthew Heimbach. It indeed sounds possible. He mentioned Texas being larger than Germany, thats insane!

Is there a discord you faggots ?

I thought it was serious but I think OP is just a knee-jerk triggered LARPer.

I would love to lend my support to start an ethnostate in the US, but there's one problem, and that's section eight. The second you start a community that's overtly discriminatory, the feds will sue your ass and import blacks into your happy little village. Members of your community might get sent to prison as well. How do y'all plan on combating this? The US lacks the self-determination clause that keeps Orania safe for now.

Come home cuck boi

So typical republicunts who live in trailer parks getting gibs and then blaming their failures on others.

Kys

Kill yourself leaf. Newfies want nothing to do with you.

Why is it stupid to build white communities like every other race does, user? We're not after independence just autonomy, think Native American reservations. We don't need a legal permission to live together in one town.

>Newfoundland
>mudslime rapefugees are told to avoid Newfoundland
wtf! now I love Newfoundland

note that the region of west texas is a sparsely inhabited bleak desert wasteland.

any ghost town located in a county in west texas is probably a ghost town for a reason.

You need to vote in a pro-white ethnostate government.

What happened to America. You guys used to be like 88% white.

I can't wait to drive by your "white ethno-citystate" and see a bunch of neckbeards clumsily nailing wood together and trying to sow the ground while sweating puddles in 60 degree weather.

but at least you're trying, i'm just a jealous half breed

If you want to be realistic we need somewhere where we can be relatively sovereign. Probably like a small island somewhere. At least until we build up enough military force to start conquering more territory.

An old naval base like pic related would be perfect

>From there, upon establishing/re-establishing self-determination, better genetics, smarter not-dumbed-down children and the removal of Marxist institutions; expansion becomes a more viable option
That's how I see and that's one of the reasons I think a white ethnostate can not come to be by purely political measures (although we for sure need to exhaust those)
If there is a white ethno state, it will simply do better than the mixed nations that surround it.
This juxtaposition will expose everything nasty about Globalism, thus causing a major public backlash against it, this is why (((they))) can never allow whites to have an ethnostate
I white had an average IQ of 85, we'd have 6 fuckin ethnostates because we wouldn't be seen as a danger by (((them)))
So, I really think it needs to come to war, I'm just wondering whether the war will arise from natural causes or if our movement will be the accelerant needed.

There is so much fucking land in DFW it's perfect. You dont want to coop yourself up into a small space, especially an island, that would be suicide. The cost of living is sky high because you have to import everything and cannot expand.

In the DFW area, the cost of living is mad cheap. You can get a large home for less than $200k, I am not kidding just go on Zillow and look up the homes in DFW. DFW housing is MAD CHEAP.

Texas also has a very strong country culture. Don't discount this! If we get shut out "from the grid" it will be much easier to do it in Texas.

It would be perfect for a settlement. The coastline is just an hour or so away. There are large suburbs with plenty of nationalistic, conservative whites. The state of Texas is fiercely independent from the rest of the Federal government. It's always been that way. If there was ever a succession in the United States, Texas would absolutely lead that succession from the Union, and can operate as a country on its own (some people here even debate that it would be better to leave the Union, the benefits outweigh the negatives). Texas is practically carrying half the country.

There is gun culture here, little to no crime in the White suburbs because if a raging nigger comes in here he knows he'll get his head blown to bits.

Dallas has a strong job market as well, the city is quite inviting to newcomers.

North Texas is the perfect area and can expand north into Oklahoma, Kansas, etc

The only weakness is Texas' proximity to the border, but we're buffered by Houston - but the borders are wide open anyway, so it doesnt really matter. Eventually we should work to liberate and revitalizate the Houston White population.

>complains about neckbeards
>finances, fights and dies in wars for a hideous people who comprise the most racist, bigoted prejudicial group on our rock

>pagan symbolism in a Christian/ God-fearing country
Pagan scum will be purged.

youtube.com/watch?v=lvoEt287GBE

We're not conquering anything by force, we're doing this peacefully through colonization. But you may be on to something with the island, user. Do you know of any up for sale?

Can't do that. Civil rights Act of 1964, title 3. The second the feds realize what's happening the attorney general will step in and take legal action against any white ethnostate that gets founded.

>Pagan scum will be purged.
Christianity is filled with pagan symbolism.
The Trinity is basically a pagan concept ffs

>What happened to America. You guys used to be like 88% white.

Immigration Act of 1965

>If you want to be realistic we need somewhere where we can be relatively sovereign. Probably like a small island somewhere.
Madagascar?

>hurr derp, there are similarities between many religions but my observation is correct because of reasons
Texas is Christian, not pagan, end of story.

>So, I really think it needs to come to war, I'm just wondering whether the war will arise from natural causes or if our movement will be the accelerant needed
what (((they))) must come to grips with is that the goy have been fighting battles to give them an ethnostate for 70 years upon the purchase of the Rothschild experiment. Now, the US needs a little 'Me' time. If they cannot come to a consensus within their own ranks about what is happening and why; then, they should worry less about civil/international wars, and more about their own hides. A civil war will only occur if they are not dealt with.

Fake quote:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fraser_Tytler,_Lord_Woodhouselee#Debatable_Attribution

That's why the plan is that it will not be legally and ethnostate, it'll just be a string of communities to which white people voluntarily rellocate. We keep minorities out by having no welfare whatsoever and by being somewhere out of the way where they do not want to live.

I second this. Texas/DFW is perfect.

Austin is a nice city, but its been cucked. We can uncuck it later, but its not ideal for the American HQ.

Houston is too full of non-whites and super hot and can get uncomfortable. Dallas weather is more mild. San Antonio is way further south right next to the border, and is majority non-white.

The people of Texas are super independent. I dont know if its the water or what, but there is a "do or die" mentality here. It's very proto-European and very rebellious against the establishment.

Most importantly there is a very strong rural country streak here. If things get hairy and we get shut out from the grid, we could live interdependently in our own communities. There is plenty of farm-able land available and plenty of hunting grounds to hunt wild game.

Christmas is a scandinavian pagan tradition long before we got "enriched" by the christians. European christianity is pagan.

Texas doesn't practice "European Christianity" dumbass. It's more protestant. Those videos that you see of Christians protesting Mosques, and holding open carry rallies, etc. are protestant Christians. Although the influx of Mexicans has increased our catholic population. Christians do not celebrate Christmas for the same reason as tree-fuckers celebrated it.

It's looking like it's gonna be Texas, anons

We need a name for the ethnostate for future /esg/'s. Keep in mind the Texas location and let's here what you all have. We need a name that is undeniably and inseparably linked to white identity so the civic nationalists can't usurp it like they did with kekistan.

>I second this. Texas/DFW is perfect.
Leaf here who has worked in some Houstan refineries
1, I think Teas and Texans are fuckin awesome
2, they're unashamed to be ppro-white, pro-America and that's awesome
3, as awesome as that is, they've seemed to fully embraced Mexicans and Mexican culture and have created a weird White/Mexican existence
Like if you compare it to say, Quebec and Canada, it's really weird that Brown spanish speakers have had more influence on Texan whites while white french speakers have had next to no influence in Canada outside of Quebec
Just weird to think about, ya think Texans would be more resistant

Also, Mexican Catholics have more in common with eurocucks than Americans do in regards to Christianity. They do tons of rituals and mixed their previous beliefs of the past with Christianity. American Christianity is different than European Christianity.

Don't forget unashamed to be Pro-Texas. Many of us are Texas first, and American second. DFW is great, just avoid Dallas County.

Texan*

>wants to name Texas the white ethnostate
>people are already moving to the PNW for the Butler plan
Is this a shill thread?

This is an okay plan. I think it would be improved by following the Orania model of having all the land be owned under a corporate structure where landowners act as shareholders in the "company" so to speak. This way, you aren't subject to the same cuckoldry that local governments need to enforce, plus it's kind of hoppian, which appeals to the American libertarian spirit.

Furthermore, I think you should frame the culture of the community in terms of religion. The Amish and Mormons have significantly high birthrates because they have an ideology that encourages good community development. I'm not saying y'all should go as far as the Mennonites, but the limiting of technological usage by interested citizens will both decrease maintenance costs and reduce degeneracy in the long run. Just something to consider.

In terms of economy, I think either chicken farms or manufacturing would be best. My armchair recommendation is to try to find a way to skirt around minimum wage laws so that you can competitively undercut local and national industries, kind of like how Native Americans are able to do this because of their sovereignty.

>Something like Sargon Europa?
just kidding. just kidding. Too soon? consider that the work has already been done with respect to names tied to White identity, by those Europeans who migrated here and turned swampland into a 1st world. Look at the names of those places established by Euro migrants, and use them liberally.

Oh yeah I agree, but the DFW area has much less Mexican influence and is traditionally "Pure Texan". Plus, that Mexican influence might be a little shocking to you, but its not that significant in the grand scheme of things. Theres much more Mexican influence in Houston and San Antonio than DFW/Austin.

No one is moving to the PNW hippie region, the Butler Plan has been a resounding failure.

>Don't forget unashamed to be Pro-Texas
Yes, VERY pro-Texas. That seperatist attitude I dig.
But ya see, that's kinda my point.
Being "Texan" has superceded being white as a social cohesive factor in Texas
Me, as a white english speaking Canadian, although treated very well in Texas, was made to feel less like "one of us" than spanish speaker border jumpers
It's weird that Texas gets the rep. for being so pro white when they'll disavow whites for a spic from mexico if he's squatting in Texas. They've truly embraced the browns culturally, more so than California.
They're actually like the opposite of California, whereas Calfornia says they love browns but really treat em like shit, and Texas says they hate browns but treat em well.
How can we address this?

>texas
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

if you arent planning on moving to europe or australia you are delusional

As someone who has been up there, the Butler plan is suicide. I dont even think its organic, its probably controlled opposition. The Pacific Northwest is one of the last places you want to go.

A) Washington, Oregon, are some of the most liberal, cucked states in the union, they compete directly with NY, NJ, CT etc for cuckedness. Oregon is considered a Federal stronghold, people are mainly cucked to the federal government over there. It's suicide. You are not going to find local demographic support there.

B) The weather and terrain is not pleasant. Be prepared for freezing, brutal winters. Idaho has good farmland, and that's about it. It will be a NIGHTMARE if we go off grid up there.

>Oh yeah I agree, but the DFW area has much less Mexican influence and is traditionally "Pure Texan"
Never made it up there. Had plans many a weekend but never went. It's almost like it was so close I just took it for granted.
I really wanted to visit though, my fave band is from Dallas.

>WE ARE NOT TRYING TO TURN TEXAS INTO AN ETHNOSTATE

WE ARE PLANTING THE SEEDS OF WHAT WILL BE A NETWORK OF WHITE NATIONALIST COMMUNITIES IN A LOCATION THAT HAPPENS TO BE WITHIN TEXAS. THINK IN TERMS OF NATIVE AMERICAN RESERVATIONS. THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE STATE DOESN'T MATTER WE'RE NOT TRYING TO FOUND A COUNTRY AT THIS POINT, JUST A NATION WITHIN A COUNTRY.

>Being "Texan" has superceded being white as a social cohesive factor in Texas
there are civic nationalists in Texas likely the same proportion as in the US proper. thy choose CN because it is a "humane" option within the Christian dogmatic way of thinking globally. Genetics will not be a favorite topic among these people; and that really is fine, because self-determination will allow nature and biology to do what nature and biology has done for millennia; favoring natural selection over test tubes. self-determination will allow those within the group(s) to mingle the best with the best. It's imperative that they (those who adhere to this ideological approach) don't allow pic related to happen.

>Texas is looking promising for a white ethnostate
>Texas
>45% white
>70% of babies are non white

kek

See

>Ethnostate
>Texas
Oh that's rich kek
Fuckin sub 45% white state with most of it's land being shite for living
Only a god damn retard would want to use Texas, Alaska or California are the only plausible options

Nice meme flag meme. Can we get this added to the list of meme flags? 10/10 would wave.

How do u post a link that isnt considered spam?

We literally invented modern eth ic nationalism

>the PNW hippie region
wew, this thread is FULL of shills holy shit