Let's Discuss 2020 Projections

Let's talk about the 2020 election. You guys think Trump will win again?

Here's the starting map for 2020. Trump actually made the Republican Party competitive in most states.

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Also, here's the map if Trump does DACA

Every grey state was won by a margin of 5% or less.

Whole map blue when he signs DACA

I wouldn't be so sure about Ohio. We're pretty annoyed with Republicans right now.

Well, mine was just the starting map for DACA but yes. It would be Dem landslide

Nyaah, if the economy grows at an average rate of +3%, then he'll be reelected in a landslide, DACA notwithstanding. He just has to demonstrate he's deporting illegal aliens in volume, and then people will forgive if he pardons some who came as children.

If he's gonna let the DACA kids stay why not just give them permanent green card status. They can stay and pay taxes but not vote.

Daca will confuse Latinos on how they should vote. Older and very uneducated Latinos will vote for trump in decent numbers ( like 25-30%) and even more wont vote. Latinos won't decide the next election. It will be decided by how socilist dems go.

But didn't Reagan's amnesty essentially seal off California to forever be Democrat?

The most realistic map to be honest. Imagine how much the Democrats would reee if after four bruising years, they lost by just 1 electoral vote.

My guess, based on how likely Trump or the Dems are to win each state, not really specific on the margins. Light color = probably going to be won by the party. Gray = either way. Solid color = absolutely going to be won by the party (unless something major like impeachment or assassination happens).

Details on swing states:

- New Hampshire - One of the closest states in 2016, is very moderate in general, Trump has a good shot to win it, but it usually votes Democrat.
- Maine (statewide) - Maine swung over 10 points Republican in the last election. There is a chance of Trump winning it, but I feel it will still go to the Democrats.
- Maine (CD2) - Trump won this by 10 points, it swung 20 points Republican from 2012, he will definitely get this 1 electoral vote.
- Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin - I think all four of these could go either way. Trump winning them was a huge accomplishment. All four are still mostly white states that often vote Republican at the state level. All four have been trending Republican since 2008. Minnesota was won by Clinton by only 1.5% in 2016 so Trump can win that state as easily as the others. However, Philly/Detroit are huge urban areas to overcome for PA/MI. The margins in 2016 were too thin for any of them to be locks for Trump.
- Ohio - I think Trump will mostly likely win this one, he won it by 9% in 2016, but there are major urban areas that could cause issues.
- Iowa - Seems like a lock for Trump for me. 80-90% white state, pretty rural, swung hugely Republican since 2012, it's likely he'll win their votes again.

- Virginia - I just don't think Trump can win this one, NoVA has grown too much. There are vast rural areas that Trump can campaign in, and some urban areas (Virginia Beach), but it just seems like a lock for the Dems. Republicans haven't won a statewide election there since 2009.
- North Carolina - My home state, I believe Trump can win it again, but the minority and urban white vote could easily overwhelm it for the Dems. The state will never be a lock for Republicans again, sadly.
- Florida - Seems like it leans Trump to me. Like NC, it will never be a lock for the GOP. At leas the Cuban population there does help out the Republicans, compared to the spics settling in Texas (which will turn it blue in a few elections, barring major policy changes).
- Nevada - Could go either way, Trump did not campaign here much.
- Colorado - Seems likely to vote Democrat again. Too much weed perhaps.
- Arizona - Hispanic population here is out of control and will flip the state eventually, Trump winning by 3% is too close, but I think he'll at least get it in 2020.
- Nebraska CD2 - Likely to go to Trump, the rest of the state of course is a lock for him.

depends who the dems put up against him, it'll probably be some literalwho since all the big names have been tried and lost. bernie might try again and most likely get cucked out of the nomination

honestly this, florida is red 99%, and to think trump won't win wisconsin, michigan or penn is retarded. also, nh could go red, but wouldn't have much influence really

It will depend on his mandate.

If he'll succed economicaly, on immigration and internationally (on North Korea) he will win florida, pennsylvania, North carolina and most of the Rust belt's State, insuring him an easy win.

I'd say pic related is ideal scenario for Trump but Is much more likely

Minnesota ? impossible, it's been a blue state for too long

I live in Virginia. I can say that Trump can win the state if he really tried to win it. He only campaigned here like once or twice. He completely abandoned Virginia during the election. If he was able to win Pennsylvania he can win Virginia.

Someone post the jeb map

He only lost there by 55,000 votes compared to Romney losing by 226,000. Pic related

Trump only lost the state by like 30,000 votes. If he is able to at least bring back some jobs to the state, I guarantee you he'll win.

18 here. Gen Z has leaned toward Trump thanks to memes, even in Minnesota. To be honest, Sup Forums may have secured Trump a reelection because of the memes.

Basically this

the most important is that california reds need to go out and vote. we need more republicans to move here. listen, there are jobs here. therye all shit jobs, but we need people to come take them from the spics. you have 3 years. you are needed here more than ever.

He only won because dems put up the worst candidate possible, he's going to get creamed in the next election.

California isn't going to flip in 3 years. Stop being delusional. Colorado and Nevada are far more manageable. Hell, New Mexico is more manageable than California. The only state that is even more of a lost cause at this point is Hawaii.

It was a 7.3 to 3.9 split in California. The reds are there and they went out to vote, but, everything at the bay area and south is just pure blue.

that's why its need to be the goal. it is literally the the single kill stroke of the liberals.

>What is the blue wall
>what is Clinton not campaigning in "always blue" states
Nigga white working class was forgotten by the dems for a while. Which is why they went trump. As long as the economy is good, and jobs are being brought back/created trump will win. If another justice dies or retires, trump will definitely 100% win. Every autist on here thinks that the wall and other shit is what got trump elected, and for some it did. But the major thing that got trump the win was his Supreme Court nomination and talking about fixing our economy and bringing/creating jobs. Everything else is just kinds "eh" for your average American.

In three years, Trump will have won over millions of people on the fence who bought the bullshit in 2016 that he'd be a tyrant/demagogue/racist/joke-celebrity-candidate/insane/etc. Because let's face it, he definitely isn't any of those even in Sup Forums would want him to be.

He will also add many Generation Z supporters who will be able to vote for the first time in their life. They will be a "Trump Youth" like how the 1980s had a "Reagan Youth."

The only ones who'll vote for the Democrats are the screeching, histrionic, violent, race-gender-sexuality obsessed minority, who are going to be a minority in every state except ones like Massachusetts (university students and whites who always vote Democrat, will *almost* go for Trump), Vermont (university students and old hippies, will also almost go for Trump) and Hawaii (minorities, will also almost go for Trump). The only strong Democratic 'state' will be Washington D.C.

California will go red once they're forced to institute proper voter ID laws. There are millions of Republican voters in Cali, many of whom didn't bother voting in 2016 because there was no point. New York will go red because upstate and Long Island and Staten Island are already red, and will go redder. There are also many people in NYC (the ones who aren't frothing at the mouth leftists) who will realize that Trump really is pretty decent at the very least.

and I'm making this thread from the perspective of someone who lives in NYC. I know a few who are already realizing Trump is actually not as bad as they thought.

And I also know quite a few people born in 1995-1998 (considered Gen Z by some) who voted for Trump in New York fuckin City

I know Ohio will be red. Were about to hang the gov K on a pole and whoop his ass like a pinata. Were sick of all the jobs going to foreigners and negros.

Face it, California is a lost cause. Just cede LA to mexico and be done with it

This is a 2020 election thread not a 2020 erection thread. Take your fantasies to /d/.

you and i both know the commies would all rush to toronto if it happens. your fear is palpable

If he gets in nationwide voter ID and no amnesty he will also win Oregon, Nevada, and Colorado.

Look up Proposition 187.

I reckon that Oregon would turn red before Washington
Same with New Hampshire and Maine

kek

Remember the 98:2 prediction and how it all went down?

It'd be funny if that would happen again.

>people will try refute this map

how would washington ever turn red? Arent they as cucked as Canadians?

What is the short list for potential DNC candidates?

>Biden
>Bernie
>????

Absolute best Dem scenario

Absolute best GOP scenario

Ask me how I know you have never been to Iowa?

both are too old, biden will be 78 and bernie will be fucking 80 in 2020, dems really dont have any candidates. They'll have to run a literal who neo-liberal that'll get stomped by trump's celebrity alone.

>texas
>blue
MAGIC
SOIL
BASED TEJANOPEDES

Why are you and I the only people who see this? They should be grooming a new candidate, that is young, multiracial to appease the SJW, and strong on social media.

But they are still doing identity politics, shitting on half the country, and pushing ideas that voters don't agree with them on.

I got so full of liberal years in 2016 I am gonna need to water fast for the next 3 years to be ready.

You honestly think if Trump comprimises on DACA that Texas will flip? What is your reasoning? If it is because his supporters will go blue you are fucking stupid. If it because you think the influx of dreamers and their kin will vote blue, I gotta tell you they head north once they are legal and don't need a sanctuary.

Why would they move North? Texas is culturally similar to their Mexican homeland and has a good economy. Trump won Texas by less than a million votes

Bro I am from nowhereville fucking freezing ass Minnesota. Guess what nationanality invaded my homeland? Somalian's. You leafs got them now too. So please tell me what is similar about ice fishing Lutheran Minnesota and Somalia??

They go to where they can get government gibs. Plain and simple.

Plan a trip to Aspen CO and tell me how many illegals you see. Is Mexico like Aspen?

It's just best case d00d

This is the wisest. Also their kids don't get citizenship.

Wouldn't best case be an entire blue map??

Good solution, plus it would make republicans look good for the normies

hasn't even been a fucking year yet.
>why hasn't Trump done EVERYTHING ALREADY?
wait and see.

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in ma and ca laws have already been written forcing presidential candidates to show tax returns which will likely be used to force trump off the ballot whether he releases tax returns or not, and i expect the shit to be in at least ten or more other states by 2020 if not end of midterms

Trump is Gold

I suppose, but some states turning blue, just like some states switching to red, is pretty close to impossible.

More like pic related if Pence runs

LOL. WoW user you sure are clever. U done got me good. ROFL ROFL omg like omg

Trump is still Gold

Oh, yeah, everyone will vote for an obviously retarded nigger.

Why? Because the Dems will stop illegal immigration, and lure the Trump voters?

>Oh, yeah, everyone will vote for an obviously retarded nigger.

I think Florida will stay red after the help through Irma. If they remember that in 2020

this site is so fucking rigged

I'm just one vote, but I sure as shit won't vote for him again if he grants amnesty.

>I sure as shit won't vote for him again if he grants amnesty
that's why I can't imagine this isn't a ruse to force congress to fight over something.

i believe it.

i dont think amnesty will kill him but not building the border wall will.

Paul Ryan just came out and said that the Republicucks will reaffirm their position in strengthening border security since Trump started talking to Pelosi and Schumer.
So yes, it's a ploy to get the RINOs off their asses to show some spine for once in their lives.

Wouldn't be fair otherwise.
Checked.

>So yes, it's a ploy to get the RINOs off their asses to show some spine for once in their lives.
rustle their jimmies to actually fight for their congressional majority in 2018.
>Paul Ryan is a lying piece of fucking shit, so I just assume the opposite of what (((he}}} says.

You could have prevented this, but you didn't listen.

Kamala is WAY worse. I believe Barack actually had a genius level nigger IQ of about 110. Kamala is less than 90. She is completely fucking idiotic.

so here goes the preliminary map according to gallup polls of Trump's approval. I've locked in every state that has an approval rating of =>45% as Republican and everything

I notice US elections tend to be more partisan than platform, so it will be as usual-along the 50:50. Depending on the next years, and Trump's policies, I would expect some 10% to swing left or right, accordingly. I can't say which states would flip, as I can't claim to have any in-depth knowledge on how burgers vote per state, however most projections in this thread belong to Sup Forums, there is not a sliver of truth in them.

>You could have prevented this, but you didn't listen.
SLOW AND STEADY, DAHNOLD
>slow
>and
>stead
>y

ur from a gay country. you don't get to talk about your masters that way.
>apologize Bulgey

God I miss Jeb.

prove me wrong.

Hope you're right.
All you faggots do realize what happens the next time a Dem is president, right? They will undo all of Trump's work and go right back to the globalist agenda.

>genius level
he could speak english most of the time, and was coached out the ass.
>he was just a pull-cord puppet.
>he was Corey Booker without the coke-head vibe

92% whites and the rest natives here, you apologize!

Trump wins because the Dems are a complete disaster and eating themselves alive.

AZ will be blue
NV will def be blue cuz porn
MI will be blue
>otherwise sure, why not, user

WI won't be going blue any time soon. Nevada is going to stay blue come 2020

>92% whites and the rest natives here, you apologize!
"whites"

> AZ will be blue

try reddit, fag

Should I post the picture "white people vs people making "you are not white!" posts"?

>WI won't be going blue any time soon
I don't know. Wisconsinonianites are pretty stupid, lazy, and greedy.

AZ was able to oust Joe Arpaio you don't think they will have enough force to rig 10,000 votes or so in favor of big blue?

>Should I post the picture "white people vs people making "you are not white!" posts"?
ur from Bulgaria.
it literally doesn't matter what you do.
to anyone.

Post stupid shit, get stupid replies

I see Jewish tricks in this post.

I don't see a Democrat candidate that could appeal to Wisconsin or Michigan. Pro white democrat would easily be shut down with durrr socialist commie accusations. Hillary has burned herself with trusting niggers to vote, so I'm guessing they'll be going the Latino route to victory.

Think about it: 1) Trump can't appeal to both his voting base and spic voters at the same time, 2) spics have a vested interest in electing a pro-spic PotUS and will actually show up to vote, unlike negros who only voted for Obama cause bix nood brotha we wuz prezident n' shieeeet, 3) they are becoming a bigger voting block every election and 4) the old generation Latino voters (pro US, anti commie Cubans and the like) are dying out and being replaced with pro Democrat MS13 wannabes - in key states (AZ, NV and FL) to boot

Wisconsin, Michigan, Florida, Indiana, and Pennsylvania will be blue again if he DACAs and continues neocon wars. He'd be the last Republican ever

Trump will win because he defies the laws of reality itself