22 years old

>22 years old
>finally got life together
>eating healthy
>working out routinely
>cut out video games, I read, program and write in my spare time now
>have decent paying ($70k) job

Yet for the life of me I cannot stop drinking. The alcoholism runs deep within me. I have conquered many other challenges but this particular demon sticks with me. Any alcoholics on Sup Forums who were able to smash it for good? I know this technically belongs on /fit/ or /adv/ but those bluepilled faggots never got me to do the other stuff, it was Sup Forums who finally got through to me for motivation, fucked up as that may be.

Also, self improvement general I guess. Can't become truly redpilled without admitting and fixing your own problems.

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Sage

CLEAN YOUR ROOM. YES PERSON READING THIS MESSAGE THAT MEANS YOU. I'm certain there are some degenerates reading my post who are sleeping on a BARE MATTRESS WITH NO COMFORTER SHEETS OR ANYTHING. Make your bed you god damn degenerate.

You're right,
>OMG! ___ BTFO!
>Really makes you think...
>Lauren Southern is a kike
>Lauren Southern is NOT a kike
>How can white bois even compete?
Are clearly much better threads

>BARE MATTRESS WITH NO COMFORTER SHEETS OR ANYTHING.
Sounds subhuman as fuck. Even as a little kid I never did that, let alone as a grown ass man

You are no doubt an alcoholic, time to become a teetotaller. Take it one day at a time and try to get 3 weeks under your belt.

You should start going to AA meetings too.

Checked so response warranted. How much drinking are we talking about here? Few drinks a night? Bombed every night? Every other night?

Are AA meetings really that useful? I've heard they're hippie group therapy bullshit, but I guess beggars can't be choosers.

I told myself at the start of this week on Monday I would not have another drink until the end of September. I am now on Friday and about 4 pints and 3 shots in, which is my usual amount 3-4 days a week for the last 3 years.

I don't know.

All I know is that only rural dumb people voted for trump and smart city folk voted for Hillary

...

Right now you're still young enough to pull it off but in a few years you're going to get to the point where you can either party and stay drunk or you can have a real job. It's really as simple as that but I've seen a ton of people make the wrong decision. Back in the day I'd drink a half gallon of the cheapest whisky possible almost every night and I had to quit cold turkey. You just have to ask yourself what you want and if it's worth it.

That isn't too bad, but it's not good. You're still young though so that helps. I'm a full on alcoholic unfortunately and the only way I was able to quit for any long period of time was to be on a strict daily routine. I had to stop hanging out with my friends as well.

>I had to stop hanging out with my friends as well.
I have friends I made in the last year who don't drink/go to bars and hanging out with them instead of my old friends who, love them to death, are drunk losers with zero ambitions, helped a bit. But my major concern is I drink alone now. I drink less than I did, but it's by myself instead of with friends.

Get some Krombacher non-alcoholic wheat and drink that instead of your regular booze.
Other than the alcoholism it sounds amazingly much like me.

>Used to be lanklet
>stopped playing vidya
>eat healthy
>start rowing
>start lifting heavy
>22 now
>went from 150lbs to 205lbs at 6'5"
>pic related, me on the right

>Suddenly get attention from girls
>do better in school
>more happy and relaxed in general

WoW is pulling me back in since the current expansion is awesome but I'm trying my best to fight the urge.

ITT
Things that never happened

Quit now. Don't wait till you hit rock bottom or get close, it sucks

Could be a lot worse, but probably best to cut it out now because that shit will escalate over time.

You don't need AA, smart people don't get that much benefit from it.

You need to fill your day with as many things that aren't drinking as possible. You can choose whatever they are.

Also if you're gonna get DT go to a doctor, absolute worst withdrawals there are, you can die.

>quit video games
>cant quit drinking
either play video games and quit drinking or stop being a bitch and quit both at the same time drinking is for niggers

>>/ck/9422531

>Yet for the life of me I cannot stop drinking. The alcoholism runs deep within me. I have conquered many other challenges but this particular demon sticks with me. Any alcoholics on Sup Forums who were able to smash it for good?
I am into drugs and fucking more then most people here are but the genera; thing is learning control over it.

I do not have to fuck, i do not have to smoke and i do not have to drink. I can function without it and i can even function without caffeine (with enough sleep provided).

I do drugs when i want to be on drugs but i dot need drugs to function and could go without them.

This is the stage you must reach.

What's your drink of choice OP

>try doing this
>get off the computer
>go to my room
>look at it
>mind starts racing and analyzing everything
>become mentally paralyzed
>throw a pillow at the wall out of anger from being overwhelmed
>get upset and go back online
>the only thing I do is put some dirty clothes in the laundry
>beat myself up when i realize i can't function in society like this but can't just not be an autist
How to cure my spergouts?

You gotta set REALISTIC goals that are TIME-ORIENTED
emphasis on REALISTIC
if you aim too high you'll think you can't and since you think you can't you won't be able to.
If you set a goal that you believe to be obtainable, you will obtain it
Try, "I am not going to drink until September 21." And when I do drink it will only be a shot an hour to enjoy the taste. After three hours with only 3 shots I'll put down the bottle, wow that was great

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What do you do for work OP?

All I can tell you is what worked for me. Everyone is going to be different. As boring as it is, I had to pretty much schedule out my entire day in advance. What time I was waking up, what I was going to eat, what I was going to do, what time I was going to the gym and what time I was going to sleep. If you reach a point where your liquor is coming out of plastic bottles, where you get stomach pains, where you fingers or toes start to feel numb, where you get withdrawal symptoms if you stop drinking for a day then you need to quit immediately to avoid permanent damage.

Don't worry user, that's a little more of the mess cleaned up. If tomorrow you do a little more that will more than nothing. Just take it day by day, man. We'll make it eventually.

>70k job

I want this so fucking bad mate

I'm an alcoholic too
it would be nice to enjoy it responsibly, but there's definitely a genetic component that makes that way harder for some people

I'm a faggot and I inject estrogen now

personal experience

>use party drugs
>realise that alcohol will never be as good as being high

stop drinking

Yeah I suppose but it's like a little just isn't enough you know? I just can't slow my fucking head down and it makes me have shit tier performance in every area of my life.
I shouldn't be getting overwhelmed by cleaning my room but I do and sperg out because of it. How do you just not let your head get the better of you? Once I figure that out I feel like things will improve at least partially.

You really have to prepare yourself before you take the plunge. It's difficult. It means saying goodbye to something that you care about forever, and it's tough. As long as there are little things in the back of your head like "Well, if I do this for 5 months and get a raise, etc. etc, I'll have one drink", it won't work. The boredom and the sense of loss are the hardest part once you get rid of the desire for the taste/feel for alcohol.

Sounds like you are a little too removed from reality. Spend some time in the outside world (even if you don't like it) to ground yourself again. After some days you can go back to your hideyhole. Rinse and repeat. Trust me it works.

>I'm a faggot and I inject estrogen now
Kek, that last part caught me off guard. I may be an alcoholic, but at least I'm not the most degenerate one in this thread.

>become mentally paralyzed
>throw a pillow at the wall out of anger from being overwhelmed
faggot

It varies wildly. I have some fairly nice wine and gin, but my day-to-day drinks are pretty white trash (Kirkland's vodka, Jagermeister, and PBR in particular).

I'm a chemical engineer for an oil and gas company (Not a petroleum engineer, there is a distinction. Namely they make more money and are smarter). It's not the sexiest job on the planet but it pays the bills.

>make your bed
I never understood the point of this. I hate when the sheets and blanket are all tucked in and can't sleep that way. Besides anyone standing in my bedroom shouldn't be caring much about the messiness of my comforter, whores don't get opinions that matter

You're 22 stop being so melodramatic.

try neurofeedback, especially alpha theta

Because that anger and frustration is what motivates me. It's like losing weight. You lose less than half a pound a day, but over the course of a week that's 2lbs. Then over the course of a month that's 8lbs. Then a year is 96lbs, and that's incredible. That's a huge improvement. There's a reason people say
>Rome wasn't built in a day

nicotinic acid, 250mg a day, 500mg a day next week, eat bacon and eggs fried in butter every day, because you need ldl cholesterol to build back up the damage to your brain and nervous system.

>22 years old and 70k Job
How does this even happen? Even with a Master in Electrical Engineering starting is 40-50k.

There you go, force yourself to drink higher and higher quality stuff until the $$ weans you off of it.
This month at least $10/bottle, next month $15, following month $22, following month $28, following month...eventually you will only be allowed to drink Dom, Opus One and super-rare Trappist ale. Stay at that price point for the rest of your life.

31 year old here
Heed my warning.
Stop now.
Or you will regret it very much so when you look back to when you were 22.

One step at a time while not focusing on the task but the sense of satisfaction and relief at it being done. Never focus on the task, just the desired end result. The more you practice that, the easier it gets.

underage attention-whores write pretty shitty cuckfic in general
> I'm 22 and I've got the alchololism
> oh yeah and I workout and have a job
you have to be a pretty clueless basement dweller to write shit like that

just indulge WoW for a few months, become bored, and wait until the urge strikes again two years from now

literally just stop drinking. Its that fucking easy.

>I feel like drinking
>ugh this is painful
>better not drink
>ok I wont, but for a few months I'll still want a drink

That fucking easy

Have you tried improving supplementing with
>magnesium (citrate, malate, glycinate, taurate zinc (opti zinc, glycinate)
>Good, quality multi vitamin
>melatonin
>vitamin D3, 5000iu a day

Chem E is god tier, in places like Houston.

Ex-alkie, did it without AA. I see some of the posts here seem like people are bargaining with themselves
>only on friday, etc, etc
that doesn't work if you're a real alcoholic, in order to quit you simply have to hit your breaking point where you can't tolerate living that way anymore, then you will make the necessary changes in your life. If you truly want to stop, dump the rest of your stock out and walk away from it.

Get a waifu, darling.

Get a boat and then you won't be able to afford to drink. If it doesn't work you don't have a big enough boat.

>$70K job

literally how?
honestly, literally how did you get a $70k a year job at 22? Your dad owns the business? explain.

That just makes hangovers less intense.

Fuck. This is what i was on when i read this

>Any alcoholics on Sup Forums who were able to smash it for good?
Your fucking only 22. Drinking is a white mans habit and an important social activity. Just keep it under control. If you wake up one day with the shakes quit for a min of 2 weeks. If you persist you'll end up in medically supervised detox, or a month long process of forcing yourself to one less drink a day until you can safely quit (severe alcohol withdrawal can cause seizures an kill). Get you doctor to give you some Valium if you fuck up and go to far. Only weak faggots cut booze out of their lives altogether.
t. 40 year old that has been labeled an alcoholic for 20 years but still has a house, 2 vehicles and a job

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Not a bad idea and at least for me this is probably the most likely to work out of what I've seen ITT. Thanks

I grew up in an extremely poor, rural part of the Midwest where people start drinking (heavily) at 14-15 and it stuck with me. I was lucky enough to get a full ride scholarship to a mediocre college because I did well on some standardized tests in high school, then got some internships in college, one of which became a full time position for me. None of that negates the fact I started drinking nearly ten years ago. I don't get why Sup Forums thinks everyone is a basement dweller, some of us are genuinely trying to succeed in life but want advice on fixing the parts of us that aren't so great. Sorry to piss you off, Fritz.

I'm an inspector of many types, coating, welding ect... in the oil and gas industry. 29 yrs old and I had to go to rehab again after a few yr stint on jobs. Drinking is a bitch to wrestle but I am now 1 yr 2 month sober back to making 220k a yr. Got to handle this stuff younger In life or else you end up broke down old man like the bros in rehab. I did 3 months in rehab this go and it was a Miracle. Worked on mental shit deep rooted and I don't go to a.a. n my whole life is 100000x . O.P. do yourself a favor and take those first steps and free yourself.

Honestly just stop bitching. I'm 22 and im barely a sophomore in college and have no idea what i wanna do with my life. I dont work out, i eat like shit, and i drink a lot also cuz im unhappy. You drink because you're unhappy too. Find a nice girl and start a family or something. That's what I'd do if i was in your shoes.

Check the Chem E starting salaries at top engineering schools. Or Texas state schools (refining industry).

Shit man the media/pol is what has really giving me motivation to get to the gym everyday. Alcohol is one of the hardest drugs to quit, and one of the most dangerous. You need to taper with benzos under a doctors care if you're in deep.

I go to meetings for other drugs, and I'm currently only taking Kratom everyday. Kratom does help tons of people heavily cut back or quit drinking, and in my opinion a much safer choice, just try not to use it more than 3-4days a week max. Maybe 4 in the beginning, but definitely cut back once your drinking is more under control.

Meetings might help you or maybe not. It's just nice having a support group and relating to a bunch of other people going through the same thing

Phenibut is also really useful for social anxiety, mores a little like alcohol without the sloppiness. Addictive like alcohol though.

You have to get /fit/ before you get grill.

In America you call alcoholic people who just drink a couple beers a day, at least this is the idea I get from your TV shows and threads like this.

9 out of 10 Europeans would be alcoholic by American standards.

Great genes 10/10 would proliferate with.

I just treated it like an engineering problem.. happy to help.

texas sounds like a paradise. I got a chem degree 2 years ago from a state school in california and when I can find work in my field (rarely) its $15 an hour getting yelled at by asians in a lab and it is always contract work - never steady gigs.

How marketable do you think a pure chemistry B.S. would be in texas?

If it's really bad, you need to get to detox before you die. But otherwise, just make it harder for you to drink.

Add something really bad tasting to your bottles (pickle juice, orange juice), if you keep drinking it, you're addicted. You might also want to 'water down' your drinks with very similar tasting non-alcoholic beverages while still drinking. The addiction is impossible to satisfy but the situation that signals the addiction is gradually disassociated with it. If you do a certain thing/feel a certain way before getting drunk, or drink at a certain time/area, try and make it impossible. (Times, places, emotions, and routines can signal to the brain/body that a certain thing is about to happen, deny it those triggers.)

Like said, schedules can make it impossible to trigger your drinking habit.

I used to drink too much, but then I decided that I am a mentally tough individual and have only drunk on one occasion since then.

I binge drank for years, when I quit cold turkey I had a dream two days after that there was a huge spider on my chest. When I woke up it was still on my chest, swatted it away and ran for the lights. This is when I realised I had experienced delerium tremens, brutal shit.

I'm an alcoholic. Finally got a 'good' job (40k a year). It's rough. Idk, I quit for a few days every now and then. But I think the brain damage is what's really pushing me to put down the liquor for good

>25 years old
>Amazing job
>Aryan girlfriend
>Don't make a ton but enough to do whatever I want


I don't see the point, lads. I think we're in Weimerica at this point but all my friends are just weak men with socialist leanings. Are we beyond the tipping point for Cultural Marxism to force a resolution of the dialectic?

Honestly, you are in a rut. You need a big change to kick you out. It might not even be a change for the better but you need change or you will be in paralysis for ever and that's a living hell no moving. Lots of other here will shit on my advice but if you are hopeless and already fucked, smoke some weed. It's not deadly like alcohol or other hard drugs. It's very addictive though if you are super bored but you will at least maybe be more productive which is better than being nothing which is what your situation seems like.

Chem E. is a world apart from Chem, I think.
Maybe go for an M.Chem.E. (one year program), but that would mean more student loans.
See if there are reasonable CA prices for master's programs.
Maybe even a second bachelor's degree in Chem E. CSU bachelor program tuition is what, $7k per year? You can start taking classes now with Open University or Penn State Online or whatever, then transfer in. A bunch of your Chem classes should transfer in toward your BS in Chem E.
Hit up your LinkedIn and your Chem E alumni to get the real deal, my info is pretty old.

I bet they get more and higher grade pussy than you, you type like an introverted neet

this sounds like a great way to stay an alcoholic but throw a lot more $$ away on it

Get on the Early Retirement bandwagon. Get your gf to go crazy frugal with you. Mr Money Mustache, etc.

Americans are alcoholets. You guys don't know what is alcoholism.

sweet car. this one is 2 years older than me. I've drank for a long time and I was sober for a number of years too.
The thing is, I love beer and I love a beer buzz. I know that if I don't keep a lid on it I'll have to go back to AA with the whole complete abstinence thing so I do my best- with a good measure of success- to control it. In other words, I don't want to have to revoke my beer privileges. I refuse to let it destroy my life so I suffer with a small portion of the enormous beer buzz I really want so that I can still have some of the nectar instead of the painful life of NO nectar.
I was in a bar in Denver tonight with 120 different beers on tap and I kept my cool

Damn, man. I did have a night terror earlier this week where I thought two rattlesnakes were in bed with me. Made me run out of the room and lock myself in the bathroom for five minutes until my brain actually "woke up." I'm going to assume it was just a night terror, and not DTs because if I'm at the point I have DTs, that's pretty fucked.

>so I'm just training myself for chaos
How so?

How dare you expose me

it's cliche, but money doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is happiness and satisfaction with your life

the digits do not lie

The US also has a shitload more none-drinkers than Europe. For all the Muslim jokes we make about you guys, we have a fuckload of baptists and mormons (depending on the area) who don't drink

Im youre age and im a neet. At first i felt inferior but

Im slowly not giving a fuck about working in the system. Sure have having an income makes sense but not the rat race. Not giving a fuck about following the green. In the future the system will be mostly female and anti everything i stand for so it's illogical to waste calories on anything but training to defend yourself for any major happs

Just quit. I drank 9+ pints every day for years, before that I would drink cheap $10 a half gallon vodka, about half of a half gal every night for a few years
I quit cold turkey after I felt a pain in my side I'm 90% sure was a gallstone. Haven't even had a craving for alcohol, though I have nightmares about relapsing sometimes
150 days clean on the dot and never felt better. Lost 40+ pounds even though I started eating more fast food and junk. Its time to put the bottle down.

Yeah, I'm not renowned for my advice but it doesn't stop me from giving it the old college try.

Good job keeping it together, I havnt been so lucky lately.

On Fridays I have been going to my buddy Daves house at around 7pm, drinking a 24pack of Coronas between us while doing 2-3 grams raw Cocaine.

By 2-3am we have Puerto Rican escorts with pierced nipples and fat asses come over, we fuck them both every way possible till about 5am.

I get home for about 7am and fall asleep at about 9-10am until about 4pm, I am then stuck in bed till Monday when I have work again.

I wont cold turkey years ago but relapsed lately, just venting dont mind me.

>not playing Hearts of Iron 4 with the Kaiserreich mod and Kaiserreich music pack.

You're missing out, bro.

Not all vidya is degenerate shit.

The people that make it though
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just ragekid it. Rent a cabin for two months, take a vacation and leave your wallet at home using only a lot of supplies you brought with you. Keep your car annoyingly far away, next to a full days walk.

Lol i drink 18 beers a day and my stomach acid is melting my digestive tract and i smoke 1 and a hakf pack of cigarettes a day i cough up black spots ive veen this way for 6 years i brush my teeth like once a month

I think you're fine user

Just taper off it and exercise discipline.

Here's how you do it. Stop drinking. Not a single drink, just stop.

Chem E is shit right now. You aren't worth shit without 3-5 years of experience.

Forgot to add, Vitamin B1 supplements helped me go cold turkey without any real withdrawal symptoms.
Maybe it was just a placebo, but it worked for me. Being afraid I was dying from liver failure because of the gallstone probably helped too

Smoke weed instead idiot