Kurdistan Independence Support General
Kurds have earned their independence. How big should their state be? They whooped ISIS, whooped Iraq, whooped Assad's Syrian state, and whooped (some of) the Turks.
Reuters article:
Fuck off Assad/Russian shills. Fuck off Saudi/UAE/Islamist shills. Fuck off Turks.
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theduran.com
Ever since Donald Trump took office, the modus operandi of the US in Syria has shifted from using jihadists to foment regime change against the legitimate government in Damascus, to one of using Kurdish forces as proxies to create a would-be sphere of influence in parts of eastern and northern Syria.
It is still less than clear what the US intends to do with this sphere of influence, if it even attains it. The fact that the SDF is having a much harder time fighting ISIS in Raqqa vis-a-vis the SAA in the more fortified Deir ez-Zor, is testament to the fact that ultimately while the SDF are better fighters than the jihdaists, they still are far less effective a fighting force than the legitimate Syrian Arab Army.
Should the SDF conquer significant amounts of territory in Syria, the US would be in a position to argue for either hyper-Kurdish autonomy, beyond that which has already been established or otherwise, argue for the establishment of a Kurdish state.
Here though, matters get more difficult for the US. While Washington and Ankara are increasingly at odds over foreign policy, Turkey is still a member of NATO. Furthermore, Turkey’s army is second largest in NATO, only America’s standing army is larger.
If the US pushed for a Kurdish state in Syria, what remains of the US alliance with Turkey would essentially be over. It is still not clear if this is something which concerns the Trump administration. This might be due to the foreign policy chaos which dominates Washington or because the US has designs on Turkey and Erdogan which may represent something resembling a soft regime change ambition in Ankara.
Turkey is all too aware of America’s odd behaviour, and no country in the region wants to see civil war in Turkey....
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The other problem the US has is the Kurds in Iraq. Ironically, the US is now less inclined to support Kurdish separatism in Iraq than Washington was during the Presidency of Saddam Hussein. Under Saddam, the US was happy to weaken Iraq in any way possible and Kurdish separatism was a clear option.
Now, the US is playing something of a ridiculous balancing act in Iraq where it is trying to placate historically decent (though often inconsistent) relations with Iraqi Kurds while trying to maintain America’s substantial (however totally immoral) investment in Iraq which aims to see Iraq’s borders preserved. If the Kurds in Iraq do declare unilateral independence, the pro-Iran sentiment which is already strong in Baghdad will only grow stronger as Ian’s position vis-a-vis Iraqi Kurds is consistent as are Iran’s increasingly political fraternal bonds to the majority Shi’a population of Iraq.
America could still exploit political tensions between Iraqi and Syrian Kurds in order to say ‘yes’ to a Kurdish state in Syria but ‘no’ to one in Iraq, however, even by the standards of American hypocrisy, a great deal of geo-political tightrope walking would have to be embarked upon in order to achieve this. Wider regional blow-back against the US, from all directions, would nevertheless, be inevitable.
just take south eastern part of turkey and im happy
I don't know what to believe in anymore.
Normally, I don't support Kurds, but the idea of a Kurdistan just to spite Turks, sounds amazing.
it's good that they're gathering up at the same place and forming up an army. it will be easier to genocide
>K*urds
More like Turds.
>supporting Muslims that helped the Ottoman genocide Christians to steal Assyrian and Armenian lands
Since when did Sup Forums turn into a mudslime loving board?
hello
>Israel supports Kurdistan
More than enough reason for me to be against it. Supporting Kurdistan is supporting more Balkanization and further conflict, as per the zionist agenda
Saudis are supporting the Kurds you fucking idiot.
Nice Russian Propaganda source you got there faggot.
MAJOOSI LIBERATORS LIBERATING?!
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KHOMMO KHOMMIE KHOMMEINISTS LAUGHING AT YOUR MISFORTUNE
SAYEED HASSAN NASRALLAH PERFORMING ZOROASTRIAN RITUALS AS WE SPEAK
What.. You don't like an analysis of US duplicity re the Kurds in Iraq, Syria and Turkey?
I also doubt many would support Kurdish independence in Syria, Kurds are only 4-6% of Syria, much of the areas they control are filled with Arabs and other minorities.
They're outbreeding you anyway Mehmet, now spread Ipek's legs for her to get KURD'd
Kurdistan should include everything from Bursa to Eilat to Tehran, except the Kingdom of Jerusalem and Acre
The US is "supporting" the portioning of Syria and creation of a Kurdish region/ state.
Where is the Oil... ?
Just saying that everyone should know the Duran publishes the Kremlin's propaganda for them. They're not exactly one of the subtle ones.
Fucking euro degenerate, Iran will never under go balkanization. Even Iranian arabs and kurds would rather support iran Than outside parties
militarytimes.com
US reassures Turkey over arms to Syrian Kurds
ANKARA, Turkey — Turkish officials said US Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has written to his Turkish counterpart, reassuring that arms provided to Syrian Kurdish fighters would be taken back once ISIS militants are ousted from their main stronghold in Syria, the city of Raqqa.
Turkish Defense Ministry officials said Mattis also reassured Defense Minister Fikri Isik that the US would regularly provide Turkey with a list of arms provided to the fighters while US military advisers on the field would ensure that the arms don't go outside of the Syria battle zones.
A US decision to launch an offensive to capture Raqqa in partnership with the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces has complicated relations with Ankara, which views the group's Kurdish fighters as an extension of an insurgent Kurdish terror group operating in Turkey.
The officials said Mattis claimed in the letter that 80 percent of the force which would capture Raqqa would be made up of Arabs and that an Arab force would hold the city.
Mattis' statement on the weapons being taken back once the Raqqa fight is over contradicts recent comments made by officials of the US-led coalition against ISIS.
The coalition's spokesman at the time, Col. John Dorrian, said the weapons supplied to the Kurds will not be reclaimed by the US after the specific missions are completed, but that the US will "carefully monitor" where and how they are used.
Anyone remember this ?
2/ globalresearch.ca
3/ journal-neo.org
we were always outnumbered since the ottom*n times yanni. we don't care about numbers or how dire the situation is. our women don't interact with them and see them as inferior (except leftist whores but they're irrelevant anyway). all it takes is a 5 year lasting civil war and all our k*rds, ar*bs & other various subhumans will flee the country
guess where? das rite olive boi they're coming to YOU
It's purely a question of geopolitics and not who has "earned" what. Currently a Kurdish state would serve only Jewmerican interests, so of course Sup Forums should be against it.
Is the Duran article incorrect?
Or is the US playing a duplicitous game with the Kurds in Syria, Iraq and Turkey?
what a fucking coincidence. some k*rds are getting married and they just started playing their shitty ear fucking music just below my apartment. I'm already living in far western turkey GOD FUCKING DAMNIT
Exclusive: U.S. forces to stay in Syria for decades, say militia allies
AIN ISSA, Syria (Reuters) - Washington’s main Syrian ally in the fight against ISIS, says the US military will remain in northern Syria long after the jihadists are defeated, predicting enduring ties with the Kurdish-dominated region.
The US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), an alliance of militias dominated by the Kurdish YPG, believes the US has a “strategic interest” in staying on, SDF spokesman Talal Silo told Reuters.
“They have a strategy policy for decades to come. There will be military, economic and political agreements in the long term between the leadership of the northern areas (of Syria) ... and the US administration,” Silo said.
The US.-led coalition against Islamic State has deployed forces at several locations in northern Syria, including an airbase near the town of Kobani.
It has supported the SDF with air strikes, artillery, and special forces on the ground.
Asked about long-term strategy, Col. Ryan Dillon, spokesman for the coalition, referred Reuters to the Pentagon. He said there was “still a lot of fighting to do, even after ISIS has been defeated in Raqqa”.
ISIS remained in strongholds along the Euphrates River Valley, he added, in a reference to its stronghold in Deir al-Zor province southeast of Raqqa.
“Our mission ... is to defeat ISIS in designated areas of Iraq and Syria and to set conditions for follow-on operations to increase regional stability,” Dillon said, without elaborating.
Eric Pahon, a Pentagon spokesman, said in Washington: “The Department of Defense does not discuss timelines for future operations. However we remain committed to the destruction of ISIS and preventing its return.”
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Then I guess we'll send them to Germany and Sweden like we do...
Better hurry up with that genocide then.
They'll outnumber turks in 20 years
ibtimes.com
The US alliance with the SDF and YPG is a major point of contention with neighboring Turkey, a US ally.
Silo said: “The Americans have strategic interests here after the end of Daesh,”
NEW BASES?
“They referred to the possibility of securing an area to prepare for a military airport. These are the beginnings - they’re not giving support just to leave. America is not providing all this support for free,” Silo said.
He suggested northern Syria could become a new base for US forces in the region. “Maybe there could be an alternative to their base in Turkey,” he added, referring to the Incirlik air base.
The head of the YPG said last month the US had established seven military bases in areas of northern Syria controlled by the YPG or SDF, including a major air base near Kobani, a town at the border with Turkey.
The coalition says it does not discuss the location of its forces, citing operational security.
Reuters reporters have seen Blackhawk and Apache military helicopters taking off from a cement factory southeast of Kobani, a Kurdish town on the border with Turkey.
Washington under the new US administration of President Donald Trump started distributing arms to the YPG in March ahead of the final assault on Raqqa city, infuriating Turkey which has been unsuccessfully lobbying Washington to abandon the SDF.
Despite SDF confidence that US forces will stay, there is concern that Washington will not give enough backing to YPG-allied forces and civil councils that control northeast Syria.
“We’re constantly asking them for clear, public political support,” Silo said. He said the US State Department held its first public meeting with SDF officials this month.
“At the moment there are no meetings being held for a real discussion of Syria’s future. There are initiatives for developing political support for our forces, but we hope this will be bigger,” he said.
Reporting by John Davison; Editing by Tom Perry and Andrew Roche
All they need is the support of the Israelis or Russia and you'll have a serious insurgency on your hands. Kurds are becoming major players in the region. You're no longer Ottomans mehmet, you're no better than an emerging middle power, which means you're going to be either sucking Israeli, Russian or American cock for the next few decades.
>Sup Forums fell for the "kurds are secular and civilized meme"
Yes goy, Kurds are totally not like other muslims
>implying seperatist k*rds are not backed by an*los, americunts and kikes since the last 100 years
>implying americunts weren't caught red handed dozens of times while supplying k*rds
kek why do you think we have a k*rdish problem at the first place?
>kurds
nice joke
Yay more oil reserves for the US
Yay more destabilized regions in the Middle East
Yay more puppet states