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Oh wait, I bet you can't. Keep on licking the corporate boot, you stupid slaves.

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Why doesn't the no good deadbeat just become a boss?

wtf im a commnuist now?!?!?!?!??!

Doesn't the same thing actually happen on the left, but also, MASS STARVATION?

Why don't you mine your own gold?

>gold greed makes everyone equal

OY VEY

Implying that the workers couldn't leave the company for another one that gives better promotions to the workers if they work hard

Who own the mine on the left side? Can anybody just grab a pick axe and mine all the gold they want? Also why they all have the same amount of gold, did they all mine equal amount at the same time? What happens if one miner have more gold than the other?

Communist faggot try again nobody but a retard Leaf would say that !

But you can totally do the left in a capitalist society, no one's forcing you to work for a boss or stop you from becoming one yourself

The thing with the ebul gabidalisd company is that because it's actually organized and the resources are pooled into one directing entity (aka the boss), the company can grow exponentially in the process provide it's workers with better tools, opportunities, and greatly increased production which leads to a positive impact in just about everything except the new existence of excess.

This hit the bricks attitude died in the late 90's. Everything is nepotism now. Wake the fuck up.

How do you prevent free riders in the left?

>do 1/3 of the work as everyone else
>equal profits

If you really can not see this in Socialist style mine, here let me point it out to you.
Person 1 comes in and mines 10 ingots of gold
Person 2 checks in and does nothing all day, but sleep, jack off, etc.
In the end of the day the share is equally disturbuted, both people get 5.
If this is normal for the people working there in your opinion, well, I can only wish you the best of luck in life, since you'll definitely need it.

This

>mining gold
>in a commune
lmao that's not how it works. You're supposed to be harvesting food so that the union can let you starve--sorry, thrive--off of your rations of two cobs of corn per week.

fixed

You're right. Impossible to refute the pure fantasy on the left.

Where does the capital come from to buy the mine equipment to start the whole thing?

Dude Communim lmao

The worker who finds the gold won't share with the others especially when some do less work.

this is hilariously hilarious. with no bosses, no threats I'm free to fuck off and just kill off one of the other miners as an example to the other two. they'll triple their production or be sent off to the gulag while I reap all the benefits.

Just because the system currently is rigged doesn't mean hierarchy and division of labor are inherently bad.

stupid brainded drumpftards responding with drivel as expected

LOL!

If it's so easy, why don't they just to it by themselves then?
>inb4 m-muh rules and regulations
Well then just sign the rules and regulations by your buddies and work together like the picture implies. Oh, but they can't, because most of the people are fucking retarded and _need_ a leader. The only reason why the developed world is succeeding because there are leaders and the people who get leaded.

>Come on guys! If we all mine the gold we all share the gold.

>You didn't find any again huh Dave? Here have some of mine. O-Ok, here's a little more.

>Sure are a lot of guys mining gold now, I only get half what I used to.

>You didn't get any again Dave. But if I give you some of mine I wont have enough to provide for myself.

>Hi Dave, who are these guys? Why do you all have guns?

>These daily rectum searches are really bothersome, but I trust Leader Dave to do what's best with the people's mine.

This. It won't be a meritocracy again until we unemployed are allowed to duel the employed for their skills, or at least take the same standardized test they should have to take every few years to ensure the most meritorious person holds that job.

Red tape via legislation geared towards crushing start up endeavors.

The only choice is blending these two, which results in fascism. Glorious fascism.

Who owns the mineral deposits?
Who pays for the equipment & overheads?

This is basically what NEETs are doing.
parasites

IWW poster - how quaint.

Hire me - No bosses, but I promises (fingers crossed) to work REALLY hard!

so are they all paying for the land? and all payed for there own pickaxes?

>implying they get any

With what credit? What bank would put out a loan to someone with no collateral?

Where does the capital come from to expand the mine? Or buy more materials? You've just given away all your profit to the employees. Are they reinvesting back into the mine to sustain its operations? If so who is in charge? Does this person get paid more for the extra responsibility?

These image memes are retarded to any business owner or anyone who has ever been in management. There's a reason hardcore socialists are always at the bottom of the corporate ladder. They have no perspective outside of their individual wagecuck job.

The cooperative either owns the land or are leasing it from a mine.

There is nothing stopping you from forming a cooperative. The problem is you want a piece of other's people labour, not your own.

...

You wouldn't loan hundreds of millions of dollars to a bunch of random people off the street?

wtf i love communism now!

Why is always someone else who isn't pulling their weight?

What happens if the shoe is on the other foot and Dave is divvying up his haul with you user?

What guarantee do you have that you will be the one who succeeds in obtaining resources?

the workers aren't taking on the risk of the mine. they just show up, work, and get paid. The worker could borrow some money and start their own mine... The owner gets most of the gold, because he has to make expenditures that require massive amounts of capital - big machines and other things.. and of course, payroll. And he owns the mine, duh. He paid for it.

How is OP advocating communism?

the boss buys their equipment and pays for their benefits, and is usually more qualified

econ 101 faggot

In a communist system,the state keeps all the gold
And even if they don't & you get to keep the gold, you will still be waiting in line for a loft of bread

I need this questions answered.

Seems like OP is advocating for co-ops.

Co-ops in a free market seem to be the best check on robber-barons while allowing for creativity and industrious behavior to be a means of success.

>implying employee wages are the only overhead an employer has
ALL FIELDS

it would be fixed if you copy and pasted the "deadbeat" guy about 80 times in the background and then put a fraction of gold over everyone's heads

Who puts up the money to create the mine? The dumbass proletariat? You think they went to college and got a degree in geology? You think they have millions to invest for supplies and mineral rights?

If I put 10 million down to invest in a mine, I expect to make similar profit, assuming the venture is successful. Just because you were too busy smoking pot and jacking off and can only wield a pickaxe does not give you rights to the money and revenue I invested in.

Fucking retard

Your point boils down to whoever works in the mine has a claim to the finished product.
Well what happens if the gold mine owner doesn't hire anyone and he works his mine alone? Or if he automates the process?

In a capitalist society, what is stopping the workers from voluntarily forming cooperatives?

actually just cover up the boss with a suit and tie and rename him to bureaucrat and put a big stack of gold over him as well

if mining is so simple anyone can do it, why not just do it alone

Why would he even bother investing, if the government owns it all, and he's forced to share it with undeserving faggots like OP

>Brainded
seems as if there's only one of those here, bucko

When someone gets hurt or killed, what happens to their share/family?

And that's the great irony isn't it? For all their blather about the exploitative practices of the capitalist system, and management getting all the wealth while doing none of the work, the average socialist's true goal is to get someone else to do all the work while they get all the benefits. These people's entire goal in life is to become a welfare queen without the stigma. They want to become the boss in OP's image, but without any of the responsibility, liability, or decision making. They are worse than their own strawmen versions of their opponents.

no good deadbeat fucks STACY and walks around SHIRTLESS while you sweat and die away in a gold mine underground

Nothing.

>WHAT IS EXPENSES
>WHAT IS GOVERNMENT TAXES
>WHAT IS BOSSES WELL BEING AND OWN HUMANITY
>WHAT IS COMPETITION
>WHAT IS ACTUAL AMOUNT OF GOLD IN THIS CAPITALIST SOCIETY/DIGSITE (WHICH IM GOING TO ASSUME IS IN THE US)
People really need to get their facts straight!

Bump for woke as fuck

Not all miners mine the same gold.
Bonus: Who pays for the land and mining capital, and does he get paid back? Is the money pooled for capital? Do all miners have the same starting capital?

Coops are a way of patting stupid stoners on the back for accomplishing nothing but feeling good about themselves. They never work long term.

>all work shared
>all wealth shared
until one of the miners gets out a gun and kills the other miners, after which he has more than the boss's gold, and has enough capital to move out and start his own capitalist mining company

The boss knows what to do with his gold and reinvests. Thats why he has a business and the workers are deadbeats.

"look at this straw man. You can't refute it I win,communism will rise and we'll finally all be equally poor and helpless"

This isn't hoe capitalism works you retard. Gold isn't just found by people,those evil companies? They own the land and some times they'll get lucky. The fact that you're being paid to unearth some of that means that they give you part of it while you wouldn't have gotten anything. For it isn't yours.

Here you go.

>We organize all workers

Who is this 'We'? Is it as always white, middle to upper class iPhone waving cocksucker who thinks that 'community organizing' is work?
Daily reminder that real communism is highly disadvantageous to a communist swine since the value of the labor of communist swine is always zero.

Yeah you idiot capitalists!
Now let economic migrants into your country
The access labor definitely won't take away from capitalist masters having to compete for hands.

you are mistaking that with being a faggot

>in capitalism, unemployment exists by design
>NAIRU
Leftists demonstrate once again that you have to have complete economic ignorance in order to be part of their club.

The exploitative nature of capitalistic competition that renders cooperatives uncompetitive in the market, is the usual answer.

You have missed the point m8. Dave is the classic sociopath who rises to the top in communist systems. he keeps all his own gold and bullies others into giving theirs to him. He then forms a militia which he uses to take over the community and installs himself as Leader. While maintaining that he is the champion of communism and any dissenters are enemies of communism. Happens every time.

Because when dave gets gold and user doesn't, dave just pockets the gold he finds and says nothing. But when dave has a bad day he comes over to user with his hand out looking for a cut.

>What is a free market

ftfy

>Communists
>Work

KEK!

So are you saying there's a startup cost and risks involved? How would that work with "cooperative mining"?

Socialist, Anarchist.
Plus it's had communist heads of the organization that have been removed by the gov in the past.
But you already knew that this was a communist sympathizing org. You are just being a pedantic cunt.

Easy mode. Fuck your cuck shit libtard organization.

mmmmmmmmuuuuuuuh muslims

So, what is the value of gold in communist utopia?

Checkmate, commie.

>i don't know how much my labor is worth and this is everyone else's fault not mine

saged and kys

Why are you Canadians so fucking retarded? I swear, you guys have to be the most pathetic sons of bitches to ever have existed.

Are you suppose to be sucking on some tranny dick or something? Stop embarrassing yourself on here.

Damn, no wonder the world laughs at Canada.

How did the people on the left acquire the capital to start their mining co-op?

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heh not bad...
I can see your getting the hang of this.

and who will stop them? no boss = no accountability

from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
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Trudeau is the best Prime Minister we've had in 3 decades

I'm boycotting American products because of how racist and arrogant you obese fucktards are.

such a winnning personality, OP.

I halfway see your point and I still want to kick you in the ass.

Who's side are you on, you stupid leaf?

You stand in line for a loaf of bread in capitalism too unless you actually make the bread you dumbfuck

>They never work long term.
Are you sure about that user?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation

Yeah,in a store,where you can buy the bread,with the money you made,in a store full of goods,unlike Venezuela
Not waiting in line in the streets for the state to hand you a pathetic meal so you can March off back into your slave factories

Leftists always project. They're the ones in the streets protecting that there isn't more foreign labor and the working class isn't accepting corporate faggot and diversity propaganda.

If you think that Venezuela is an example of socialism/communism/whatever then you can go neck yourself. They still have all the same functions of a capitalist state. Nationalization isn't special to communism, it's an aspect of authoritarianism.

The Venezuelan crisis does not come from "muh socialism" but the fact that it's economic prosperity relies on the price of oil, which is 50% of their GDP and 95% of their exports. And we all know how solid the oil market is, aye?

Even then, remember- the private sector still controls a majority of their economy! (thenation.com/article/why-is-venezuela-in-crisis/)

>its not REAL SOCIALISM™
you are right,its in the process of socialist/communist conversion, dead in it's tracks
Its actually a post capitalist society that was killed by communist cunts & it didn't go anywhere.

I want to know the context of that image but I can't read faggot, sorry.

Something like "we don't need to worry about food here in Venezuela, since my family hunted a stray pitbull dog & dismembered it into a tasty soup with potatoes,rice & unions,uma delicia"

>communists actually think they can eliminate the need for leaders

Only a person that has never had any interaction with a communist society could think like this.

Oh wait its
>a fucking leaf

Someone fix the left side of the image to all except one of them receiving only a fraction of the gold ingot, with the one who is not getting any being the only guy that's working and getting beat up for his bit of gold. Also, with everyone starved out

Wrong. In a free market society, there would only be very little or no unemployment at all because those people would die of starvation.

>AND THEN HE SAID
>NO REALLY
>SERIOUSLY STOP LEMME TALK
>AND THEN HE SAID
>IT'S NOT REAL SOCIALISM