Isnt the iron cross the emblem we need?

I feel like its the obvious choice for our free speech movement. The Swastika wont do as much for our movement that the iron cross will. I think the german military was the greatest single army the world had ever known. We can be proud of that without being called racists or bigots, and more people will flock to our movement.

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Just like the Swastika, this has way too much connection with Nazis. Need something completely removed from it that ties in American symbolism.

>the german military was the greatest single army the world had ever known
then why did they lose both world wars?

protip: because they fucking sucked at everything compared to america.

This is where Rockwell failed. Sure his over the top attitude got him attention, but it didn't garner support. Leave the Nazi symbols for the Nazis ie National Socialist German Workers in the 20's. and 30's.

How about the Fasces?

It's in the House Of Reps. American as apple pie.

WTF has the Iron Cross to do with Nazis, Amerifat?? JESUS CHRIST!

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Fence sitters will NEVER respond positively to any symbols associated with fascism or with anything German.

American iconography for American politics.

First post proves no amount of PRcuckery will be enough for them.
Sup Forums's symbol has always been the swastika and if you don't like that go join Identity Evropa or AfP, kike

American fascist aesthetic should look something like pic related. Lots of stars 'n eagles 'n shit.

A hint of an arrow cluster here and there serves as a dog whistle to /ourguys/, since most normies don't know about the fasces symbology.

It's a German symbol, I'm not German so I'd feel wrong using it even if I respect it

>not understanding the reason why Rockefeller used the Swastika

Fence sitters will sit on the fence until theyre slapped off of it. Changing your symbolism because of PRkikery won't suddenly make cowards into men.

Nobody on Sup Forums has a problem with the swastika on Sup Forums.

i can respect rockwell without bowing down to everything he says.

hitlers national socialism and rockwells national socialism have no been successful. I'd rather build a national socialism that can exist rather than abiding by the restrictions of dead men.

Then why didn't the American Nazi Party ever make anything of itself? Why did so many people stay away from it? Surely PR would have helped your movement.

Except national socialism requires bold and open NatSoc. Not only that but sneaky "safer" NatSoc has never even been half as successful as open.

Because he got assassinated?

>We can be proud of that without being called racists or bigots
And after the leftists and the commies and the degenerates and perverts deem the iron cross a hate symbol, what are you going to do? Tuck your balls up your ass and run away? No, the swastika stays. Nobody gives a fuck about what they call us anymore. This is the whole point of having a movement based around white identity, you limp dicked sack of shit. We're here to say that we aren't going to be put on a leash by words anymore. Fuck off. We're keeping the swastika.

No we don't. We aren't here to preserve the crumbling union. We're here to secure an existence for our people and a future for white children.

>Fence sitters will NEVER respond positively to any symbols associated with fascism or with anything German
Good. We don't need fence sitters.

This

I know why he used it and it's a stupid reason.
>hrr i don't want anyone but the most radical and fervent to aid on my quest
Which is exactly why even his biggest marches never exceeded 200 men, and they had to fly most of those in. Big fuckin' woop.

Nice b8. No American is retarded enough to actually belie- wait...hmmm

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His group was not only the largest NatSoc group but even overshadowed the John Birch Society. The ANP forced the right wing into having a backbone at a time in America's history when it needed it the most.

Sadly, FPBP.

We need an original symbol.

>Just like the Swastika, this has way too much connection with Nazis
is that a fact

No. Way too obvious of a connection with the National Socialists. Anything to do with Germany at all or anything axis-related cannot be used because it will instantly get the typical "THEY'RE FASCIST NAZIS REEEE" reaction

Are you joking
Maybe because they were fighting on every front with 13 countries against them?

Eagle holding an axe and a musket, axe symbolizing self reliance and hard work, musket symbolizing the revolutionary war and self defense. Switch around whatever it's holding for different things, give it a quill and the constitution for speech and the first amendment.

Instead of being a shitty german copypasta try to make your own "fascism"
Instead of the iron cross use the bronze star or purple heart you dumb burgers.

Fuck off TD shill. One ideological fanatic beats an army of weak kneed pussies unable to stand being called Nazi.

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I wear iron crosses all the time pretend im into motorcycle culture.
The iron cross pisses off niggers.

MUH PR!!!!
I know, we should allow blacks, too! Because or else we will get the typical "THEY'RE RACISTS REEE" reaction

Axe is in the middle of a fasces, musket might get "MUH GUN CONTROL REEEEE"
Eagle is a bit hard to draw

We should try to make it easy to draw and fit inside individual square units to make it really stick in the head even though a person might have only seen it once, like an earworm but with sight

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You do realize you just suggest that free speech should take the Templar mantle?
Symbols are powerful user.

Also , why is a non-kraut "movement" using kraut symbology? The Iron Cross isn't a symbol about speech, it's a symbol from the military of another country, or a symbol for some religions, not for freedom of speech.

Why poach symbols that aren't even relevant to your movement?

Just use a black Cross pattée, it's the original that all European armies derived their emblems and medals from.

>our
>movement
Back to R*ddit

Watch this. This is why larping as euros won't work in the states. It's because we're americans. It's not our story. This is though.
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Come on guys, the answer is obvious.

Hitler killed 60 million white Europeans. It's not "fence sitting".

german army still uses the iron cross, its non-nazi enough

but pls dont ruin it with your cringe

If we don't accept BASED TRANNIES then we will be called Nazis! We can't have that!!!

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Lol, so you are saying shit like the M4 Sherman is superior to the Tiger, and disregarding german wonder weapons like the V2? Your existence is one of the best arguments pro-abortion i have seen... You are so retarded, that your existence must disgust your mother...

>fasces with no axe
>LITERALLY bundles of sticks

If you can't find one good drawfag, artist, patch maker, etc to create your symbol, then your movement might be in a bit of trouble to begin with. It doesn't have to be a photo-accurate eagle, just a stylized one.

It's also recognizably American, and like I said, a pen and constitution would be good symbols for free speech.

Sure thats why it is on your medals

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Fuck off you atheist degenerate.

>wanting a formally organized movement
This should be an unstructured movement like the hippie movement was, but not degenerate. That way, if our movement is what it is then black people won't care about joining because they don't care about free speech

And we really do need to make ourselves as shielded from PR as possible. PR is absolute cancer.

>not wanting to form a mighty faggot

>From Fasces to Faggot.

Oh you're just trolling now.
You don't even want a gun because liberals won't like it.
WE ARENT GONNA HAVE 2 GUYS FUCKING EACH OTHER ON OUR FLAG JUST TO APPEASE THE LEFT YOU FUCKING MASSIVE FAGGOT
>NOT EVEN A FUCKING MUSKET IS ALLOWED
>NOTHING EVEN SEMI HARD TO DRAW, IT NEEDS TO BE PIXELATED
I really fucking hope you are trolling, I really hope nobody stupid this exists

Tell me a "sneaky" safer tried national socialism.

Also, hiding behind the quotations of ideological leaders is weak. Stand for your own thoughts and ideas.

Richard Spencer is trying his method toward ethnonationalism
Varg Vilkernes is a tribalist who is just holding out for the fall of Western Europe
Libertarian NS are waiting for the end of the welfare state.

Again, I can respect the contributions of Rockwell, Spencer, Varg, etc. But for the dead ones like Rockwell we are far away from success.

I believe purity spiraling to be the greatest obstacle of NS. Everyone is pulling for "their version" of NS. Their hierarchy of "the enemy". Their position of "spirituality and religion." Their "economic system."

Hopefully this has offended you in any way. This is just my belief that for the successful of our Germanic and greater european family and the implementation of NS ideals, we need more allies and flexibility.

Flexibility of economics
Flexibility of identitarianism
Flexibility of religious expression and practice
etc

When the zionist jew controls every country its hard to win a war retard, im not as knowledgeable about WW1 so I cant speak in its regard. At this point any Murican stupid enough to believe that zog speilberg created lies that Murica stood any real chance against Germany when they came in the war so late and had an alliance that outnumbered the axis you really cant claim any feats of strength. You can how ever embrace the fact that you continually parrot your jew filth propaganda while they over run your country with niggers,shitskins and you still brag about killling the only man and army united to take them down. Congrats youre a retard

The Iron Cross is like the swastika, but commercialized and gay

come up with a symbol that represents WHITE AMERICA

That's not cucking

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Why do Redditors and e-celebs always try to start a new "movement" with new symbols instead of just picking up where Rockwell left off?

I like it, but the uniform is a bit too commie for my tastes.
I feel like we need a weapon for out symbol, like a quiver, a bayonet, or an ax.

If you're unwilling to fight for your family and race because of the symbol then stay home. All the more glory for the ones with testosterone enough to not cry at the sight of the wheel of tolerance and friendship.

Hail Jesus Christ our King. I'm no atheist.

fucking moron. we Kaiser wilheim now?

hasn't

Stop with the German fetishism you cucks

You mean the one that lost both ways and all fronts both wars?

How the fuck has caring about free speech helped the right? Look at the republican party now, they all care about muh free speech and they are all a bunch of cuckservatives.
We need a symbol that shows ethnic pride, not free speech.
Free speech is a good value to have, but if you have no other values with it, you turn into the republicans.

its not fetishism. we are germanics. that's like calling japanese weebs

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John Birch Society, American Freedom Party, a lot of Klan groups, ANP after Rockwell's death. There were a lot of unknown groups that failed and or didn't even get off the ground because of PRcucking.

The nazi's used the iron cross as well as the swastika. They tainted it just as badly as the swastika, which was an indian symbol of peace.

This, a free speech movement waving a swastika is fucking retarded, the Nazis did not stand for free speech, and the Iron Cross has never been associated with free speech to my knowledge and some retards will still associate it with Nazism.

A free speech movement needs a free speech symbol.

when free speech is dead and the commie leftists are in power, we are fucked.

You're mongols.
Mixed bastards

i think it got 1.5 million votes before rockwell died, he almost got elected governor in one place i think

I'm Anglo and old stock at that, not some German-Italian mongrel or something

Why are PRkike shills always trying to define Sup Forums and the larger right wing? Fuck I hate shills.

Could just reclaim the original USA flag? Out country was founded on the ideals of free speech after all. Why divorce from it?

this desu senpai

I like the blue star armband. Its an arm band so trollish enough and its blue and white def not commie in nature. The stars rep the states. State branches can have state names on them or mottos.

Are you responding to the wrong post?
And you clearly don't know much about even recent American history, which is funny because you mention the hippies. The hippies were all about free speech back then and they had every nigger in the country on their side.
And how do you plan to stop niggers from joining if we ever start winning? They just want to stay in whatever first world country the can for the gibs.

You want a "mass movement" to implement fascism, which will never happen and you're delusional if you think it will.

"Muh PR" clowns and fags like Dicky Spencer will never get anywhere close to getting political power. If they did, the state would just jail/assassinate them.

Tomahawk.

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Oh, so it's only defensive then?
Fuck you, we need an offensive movement.
How are you under the impression, in your retarded boomer mind, that this is actually about free speech and not about securing a future for white children?

t. 1/2 mexican 1/4 asian 1/8 indian

in ww1, they made to many enemies, hell, germany almost beat both the french and british with a fraction of their power, and they broke both romania and russia with another fraction. In WW2, they were led by hitler, an idiot. Italy was not ready or equipped for war. Japan was considerably stronger than Germany, along with the USSR and the USA. France and Britian were next to useless, with some use in the middle east/north african theaters. The Germans were a force of nature that caused insane casulties against the soviets and poles.

Mixed how?

Northern Germans are more Nordic
Eastern Germans are more Slavic
Southern Germans are more Italic
Western Germans are more Celtic

Anyone who's genes with anyone of those regions is no different from todays germans.

The fasces is from the roman empire, it's not german

kek. someone never read a non (((History))) history book

This, I get the feeling he's a kike trying to subvert the movement.
>No goys, this isn't about white people at all! It's about free speech! We don't care about race, we just want free speec!

>symbology

Just call them PRcucks or PRkikes.
They're redit trash. Reactionaries, not revolutionary material.
They don't actually give a shit about saving their people they just care about saving their comfortable lifestyle that commies and negroes threaten.

YYeah, and the Italians later adopted it. The Germans never used it.

its not going to happen. CIA Shill, Drop the larp flag and keep spreading the red pills but get behind symbols for your own country not a dead past. Unless your German then go for it!

It was the symbol of the Italian Fascists, not that Americans would know anything about the Italians in WWII seeing as they've never been featured in a Call of Duty game.

Dont hate German Americans kinsman. Dont fall for Jewish tricks

>Northern Germans are more Nordic
>Eastern Germans are more Slavic
>Southern Germans are more Italic
>Western Germans are more Celtic

>mixing up ethnics with nationality

True proven that you're dumb as bread.

Why dont American nationalist use Americans symbols? There is literally nothing as cucked as a nationalist using another nations symbols.

CIA would want to de-radicalize and PRcuck you into becoming Tea Party 2: meme boogaloo

Yes, I know it's widely used here and has been for a long time, but I'm saying normal people don't know or understand that and are too stupid to learn.