redpill me on gay marriage
Redpill me on gay marriage
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It doesn't exist. Marriage presumes monogamy and monogamy doesnt exist in gay culture.
It's degenerate
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It's a farce of actual marriage that glorifies hedonism in the name of love.
It also makes it easier for pedophiles to adopt.
Two people in love get married
Practical elaboration: Marriage is the most important part of religious culture. The goal is to guarantee the reproduction of beta males in exchange for their labor. It was created to allow for the formation of society and the intellectual man's pursuit of knowledge and exploration. only allowing men to vote ensures the continuation of the nuclear family and longevity of societal growth. A man marrying a man has no purpose, no goal.
The benefits of gay marriage:
liveabout.com
nydailynews.com
theconversation.com
A majority (37) states had already legalized gay marriage when the Supreme Court decided to legalize it:
governing.com
foxnews.com
Science on gays as parents:
www.asanet.org/documents/ASA/pdfs/12-144_307_Amicus_%20(C_%20Gottlieb)_ASA_Same-Sex_Marriage.pdf
Farr, R. H. (2017). Does parental sexual orientation matter? A longitudinal follow-up of adoptive families with school-age children. Developmental Psychology, 53(2), 252-264.
dx.doi.org
bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com
How Does the Gender of Parents Matter?
pediatrics.aappublications.org
ibtimes.com
Australia gay parenting survey:
It's gay.
Statistics on gays and marriage:
onlinelibrary.wiley.com
10.1111/jomf.12141
gaychristian101.com
onlinelibrary.wiley.com
pewresearch.org
gallup.com
Partners National Survey of Lesbian & Gay Couples 1988:
queerty.com
The study, titled “Choices: Perspectives of Younger Gay Men on Monogamy, Non-monogamy and Marriage,” was conduced by researchersBlake Spears and Lanz Lowen. They surveyed over 800 single, monogamously-coupled, and non-monogamously coupled gay menages 18-40 years about their relationships. A handful of “monogamish” men were also interviewed.
“The most striking finding of this study is younger gay men’s greater inclination toward monogamy,” the researchers report. “We see this in the overwhelming number of relationships that are monogamous (86percent). In addition, 90percentof the single younger gay men were seeking monogamy. This is a sea change compared to older generations of gay men.”
thecouplesstudy.com
ocd.pitt.edu
7% of millennials are gay:
prri.org
Millennials draw no distinctions between discrimination protections that should be afforded gay and lesbian people, on the one hand, and transgender people on the other. More than seven in ten (73%) millennials support legal protections against discrimination in jobs, public accommodations, and housing for gay and lesbian people. A nearly identical number (72%) of millennials say they favor these same protections for transgender people.
While no significant racial or gender differences exist on either question, there are large religious divides in support for expanding nondiscrimination legislation. Roughly eight in ten black Protestant (80%), white Catholic (82%), Hispanic Catholic (81%), religiously unaffiliated (83%), and white mainline Protestant millennials (78%) favor laws that would protect gay and lesbian people against discrimination in jobs, public accommodations, and housing. About two-thirds (66%) of Hispanic Protestant millennials also favor such laws. White evangelical Protestants are closely divided on this issue, with a slim majority (51%) favoring laws that would protect gay and lesbian people against discrimination, and 47% opposing them. Among religious groups, the pattern of opinion about non-discrimination legislation protecting transgender individuals is nearly identical.
A majority of Americans support publicly open commercial vendors being required to serve gay customers:
prri.org
ibtimes.com
advocate.com
I like the idea of amending the 1964 Civil Rights Act to include a ban of discrimination based on sexual orientation. It would be simple. It would be straightforward. We don’t need to rewrite the laws currently on the books, although I do think we need to address hate-crimes legislation. But amending the Civil Rights Act would grant the same protection to gay people that we give to other Americans — it’s only fair. I actually suggested this first, and now I see [Democratic presidential candidate] Bill Bradley has jumped on the bandwagon and is claiming the idea as his own. [A bill to amend the Civil Rights Act that would have included protections on the basis of sexual orientation was first introduced in the 1970s. — Ed.]
-Donald Trump
Heterosexual men are aroused by gay porn more than homosexual men are by females in porn:
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Are gays more likely to be pedophiles?
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About 60% of the male survivors sampled report at least one of their perpetrators to be female.
-Mendel, 1993.
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childluresprevention.com
3/4 victims of molestation are female:
childprotection.lifetips.com
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
"A 2015 study (linked above) looked at virtually every substantiated child sexual abuse case reported to child protective services in the United States in 2010. It concluded more than 20% of child sexual abuse cases reviewed involved a primary female perpetrator – so estimates vary significantly."
s being gay a mental illness?
psc.dss.ucdavis.edu
Businesses cannot be coerced into producing anti-gay messages:
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Holy desperate faggot.
Businesses cannot be coerced into producing anti-gay messages:
Who gives a shit?
nice pirate, faggot. Looks like you've planned this out for a while, Pajeet. Hows that shit smell coming from the streets?
You're retarded on a retarded level. Have you never heard of plural marriage or polygamy?
>Monogamy doesn't exist in gay culture
Do you honestly believe that a gay woman is any more likely to cheat than a straight woman?
That's flawed reasoning.
I see what your setting up here, because straight women are not loyal.
He always has liked them young ...
Yes.
That's not to say that the straight woman won't cheat, but homosexual women are even more promiscuous.
onlinelibrary.wiley.com
The author used a new longitudinal data set, the How Couples Meet and Stay Together surveys (N = 3,009), to generate the first nationally representative comparison of same-sex couple stability and heterosexual couple stability in the United States. He measured the association between marriage (by several definitions of marriage) and couple longevity for same-sex couples in the United States. Reports of same-sex relationship instability in the past were due in part to the low rate of marriages among same-sex couples. After controlling for marriage and marriage-like commitments, the break-up rate for same-sex couples was comparable to (and not statistically distinguishable from) the break-up rate for heterosexual couples. The results revealed that same-sex couples who had a marriage-like commitment had stable unions regardless of government recognition. A variety of predictors of relationship dissolution for heterosexual and for same-sex couples are explored.
This is from before gay marriage or civil unions were legal. Gay women were ALWAYS monogamous in large part.
I simply don't trust academia to put out accurate information on this topic.
It's like having Westboro Babtist church produce a study and taking it at face value.
Unfortunately Academia is no longer in persute of impartial truth.
>redpill me on x
You're a faggot. So if you ever marry, there's a gay marriage. Now fuck off.
Ok so you won't believe polls, surveys, or studies of any sort? I mean that's ruling out a lot. Take everything with a grain of salt sure, but excluding all data seems harsh.
>That's flawed reasoning.
just cuz? no rebuttal?
Gay men can and do have kids.
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aww guy on the right is a cutie. Too bad he's left handed
Can have kids? Biologically no, you know this
Can have kids (pic related)? sure, one of the gay men
Do have kids? yep, some do
So surrogate children of straight couples are not treated the same as those conceived without surrogacy?
No, this is an effort to fuck over gay people for being gay and you have no good reason to do so.
Seriously, these institutions have been completely co-oped.
After the obvious poll fraud during the last presidential election, they have lost my trust forever.
Academia?.... forget it, you probably couldn't get a job there at all these days without jumping through a dozen ideological hoops. It's useless... the studies aren't and can't be replicated, seriously. It's a clubhouse for left wing radicals, that needs to be broken up and rebuilt from scratch.
I'll accept findings that are peer reviewed and accepted by a broad array of professionals of all ideological backgrounds. Otherwise I'll assume it's a grad student doing surveys of his/her gay friends.
That wasn't poll fraud. A majority of people DID support Hillary, that just wasn't accurate in terms of the polling numbers, which were VERY close, for some swing states.
Many of these studies can be and are replicated.
So if evangelical Christians who hate gays don't accept the science, it isn't science?
Hmm, I was not implying that at all. Kind of confused why that's you're response to my post, but I'll respond anyways:
Parents are the inevitable supreme role models for children. This transcends morality, character, or any other social qualities that will be instilled in that child, which gays may be able to accomplish. But, it also includes behaviors and actions that are rendered normal. Children are impressionable, agree? So, having gay parents will influence a child to be gay (even if the parents encourage them to be straight, which I doubt they would). Not a determinate, but an influence.
being gay is having too much soy at a young age
/thread
lol
This, whatever happened to feeding kids proper meat like beef and poultry? Or a good serving of dairy on a daily basis?
it's gay and should be illegal and punishable by death.
I do think you are shilling, but whatever, I'm bored
The "study" is completely subjective and is observing the gender based play habits of 5-10-year-olds. I read the article and the abstract and it has nothing to do with sexual orientation post-adolescence let alone during puberty
Did you read my image from ?
I made a TLDR as well
It's a way that the gays can have the same legal rights as the straights. Mostly it affects stuff after a partner dies or for tax or property purposes or for adoption. It matters very little, except for the fags whose lives are affected.
However, Christfags are raging hilariously with incoherent arguments, meaning that the best sport of September 2017 is absolutely the trolling of Christfags on why they can't deal with two men or two women having a legal bond.
Literally nothing to talk about. I honestly couldn't care less what the gender of the person you go to bed every night is.
That being said. The openly gay who make it their entire personality piss me off to no end. Like dude... no one really cares
Claims that gay parents are just as capable of raising children as straight parents are misrepresented. Source: jstor.org
Between 24% and 90% of lesbians report being psychologically abused by their partners. Source: mainweb-v.musc.edu
Gay men are 60x more likely to have HIV than straight men. Source: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
46% of male homosexuals report being molested, as compared to only 7% of heterosexual men. Source: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Gays are more likely than straight people to have mental illness. Source: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
1/4 gay men in America have had over 1000 sex partners. Source: amazon.com
43% of gay men have over 500 partners. Source: amazon.com
Gay men are six times more likely to commit suicide than straight men. Source: amazon.com
Gay men are 12x more likely to use amphetamines than straight men. Source: amazon.com
Gay men are 10x more likely to use heroin than straight men. Source: amazon.com
Liberal arguments in favor of homosexuality are based on logical fallacies. Source: hrcak.srce.hr
10 to 15 percent of older homosexuals have more than 1000 sex partners. Source: jstor.org
Gay people are 2-3x more likely to abuse alcohol than straight people. Source: amazon.com
Up to 50% of lesbians have reported sexual abuse. Source: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
79% of homosexual men say over half of their sex partners are strangers. Source: amazon.com
99.8% of lesbian, gay and bisexual teens will change their sexual orientation within 13 years. Source: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Two-thirds of men and women who were homosexual change their orientation to heterosexual five years later. Source: psycnet.apa.org
Two thirds of self-identified lesbians later have heterosexual relationships. Source: psycnet.apa.org
Identifying as lesbian, gay or bisexual does not end sexual questioning or confusion. Source: psycnet.apa.org
One in eight gay men in London has HIV. Source: pinknews.co.uk
Gay men are twice as likely as straight men to be in interracial relationships. Source: sf.oxfordjournals.org
In Australia, 25% of homosexuals have had more than 100 sex partners. Source: takimag.com
Gay men, who are 1.65% of the US population, account for 63% of the country’s syphilis cases. Source: takimag.com
In 2010, homosexuals were about 200 times more likely than everyone else to be diagnosed with HIV. Source: takimag.com
Gay men are 15 times more likely to have Hepatitis B than everyone else. Source: takimag.com
Homosexuals are more to use illegal drugs and drink to excess than straight people. Source: takimag.com
Homosexuals are more likely than straight people to have anxiety, depression, bipolar disorder, and to commit suicide. Source: takimag.com
Gay men are 10-15 times more likely than straight men to have eating disorders. Source: takimag.com
40% to 60% of serial killers are homosexuals. Source: takimag.com
Homosexual men are more likely to have been abused by their partners than straight men. Source: takimag.com
Monogamy is not a central feature of most homosexual relationships. Source: takimag.com
Married homosexual men are 50% more likely than straight couples to divorce. Source: takimag.com
In the Netherlands, the average homosexual in a “steady relationship” has seven to eight affairs per year. Source: takimag.com
Over 20% of older homosexuals have had more than 500 different sex partners. Source: advindicate.com
The average gay man has several dozen sex partners per year. Source: advindicate.com
28% of homosexuals have had sex with over a thousand men. For straight men? Just 25% have had sex with more than 10 women. Source: advindicate.com
Most “long term relationships” between gay men last less than eight years. Source: advindicate.com
Among gay Canadian men in “committed relationships, only 25% were monogamous. Source: advindicate.com
In one study, only 9% of gay men were monogamous. Source: advindicate.com
Lol. What if gays start fucking opposite sexes periodically just to have a kid then go right back to scissoring or ramming ass.
75% of straight men an are faithful, compared to just 4.5% of gay men. Source: advindicate.com
In Berlin, 83% of gay men in “steady” relationships had had frequent affairs in the last year. Source: advindicate.com
Infection rates for gonorrhea and chlamydia are increasing among active homosexual men. Source: americanthinker.com
Gay men, 1% of the population, account for 83% of syphilis cases. Source: americanthinker.com
Syphilis was almost eradicated, but made a comeback among homosexual men. Source: americanthinker.com
Active homosexual men are 17 times more likely than straight people to have anal cancer. Source: americanthinker.com
Lesbians are 2.5x more likely than straight women to be obese. Source: takimag.com
Lesbians are twice as likely as straight women to have eating disorders. Source: takimag.com
Lesbians are twice as likely as straight women to be stalked or physically abused by their partners. Source: takimag.com
Married lesbians are 2-3 times more likely to divorce than straight couples. Source: takimag.com
Homosexuals, lesbians, and transsexuals are poorer than straight people. Source: takimag.com
Marriage should go through church and have separate 'partnership' through state for tax and legal purposes. They can be together as much as they want but in Christian theology it is STRICTLY between a husband and wife, all theologians of the past 2,000 years agree unanimously and it was only recent ones of the past ~10 or so years that started trying to make it a thing.
Call their union a civil union with the government but it isn't marriage, and Christianity does not support their demented mental state and inability to control themselves, as he Christian believes it is a mental affliction and complete abstinence is the only cure
America has spent $700 million promoting gay rights abroad – an “integral” part of American foreign policy. Source: nytimes.com
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Whatever faggot. You have AIDS
I worked in a porn shop about twelve years ago and this is very common. There were married men (local school teachers, mechanics, etc.) with kids who would come into the shop and hang out in the movie booths section. This was a movie area with rooms that were either private or had a window so you could see the person next to you. These married gay men would frequent this store finding new men to have sex with.
Nobody can read your amazon link.
The study on the Netherlands, for example, was restricted to gay men under 30 living in Amsterdam who visited an HIV clinic. That is nobody's idea of a representative sample. The study was on AIDS not monogamy. Not that you have ever read any of these works you are citing.
>married gay men
yeah to women
If they were allowed to marry other men and not stigmatized for doing so that wouldn't have been an issue.
That's a shame, you must be using a phone. It explains the practicality of why marriage was created in the first place.
>The study on the Netherlands, for example,...
dodging my analysis of your clearly flawed reference means I win that argument.
I agree with you completely, never said they shouldn't be "allowed" to get married. As long as you aren't hurting others, do as you please. (I really wish gays would keep it in the bedroom instead of parading down the streets exposing every bystander, and having the punchline of their jokes, "haha get it, cuz i'm gay, lol penises")
The topic of this thread is "Redpill me on gay marriage" and that's what I'm doing by providing the "amazon link." If you can't read it, you should at least address the first post I made here (espicially considering your investment to this topic).
How am I supposed to read a link to a textbook on amazon?
The point of the study is that if gender identity is not changed by having gay parents, why would sexual orientation?
Since I believe being gay is genetic, I suppose surrogate kids of gays, or biological kids from previous marriages MIGHT be more likely to be gay. Do you have any data (inb4 Regnerus) that adopted children of gay parents are more likely to identify as gay?
Not everyone who attends pride is nude or dressed in fetish gear. Many are not and why should you get to ruin a parade for them?
gives the economic and societal boons and status that comes with the intent of raising children to people who cant have children
Are you claiming gay people are incapable of bearing children or merely that adoptive or surrogate children are illegitimate in your eyes?
>How am I supposed to read a link to a textbook on amazon?
What the fuck are you talking about (pic related) ?? do you even know how to use this image board or are you just a newfag shill?
>The point of the study is that if gender identity is not changed by having gay parents, why would sexual orientation?
Gender identity... pre-pubescent?? you find this credible and telling? play habits?? you find this objective.... fucking shill
a healthy child needs a mom and a dad and not 2 moms or 2 dads. raising children as gay couple is selfish.
whoops I meant (pic related)
[citation needed]
How exactly am I supposed to read this:
amazon.com
?
Have you read it at all?
I couldn't find any credible evidence either way. I found the American Academy of Pediatricians saying gay parents don't influence their kids to be gay and a bunch of evangelical Christians saying they do. It would be really hard to measure, for one, and also if being gay is genetic, surrogate kids would be more likely to be gay then. Finally, kids of gay parents who ARE gay are probably more likely to feel comfortable coming out.
>How exactly am I supposed to read this:
>amazon.com
THATS NOT MY POST FAGGOT
YOU CAN'T DEBATE ME AND YOU CAN'T USE THIS IMAGE BOARD PROPERLY
Marriage exists as a state sponsored population replacement program. It is not about love or any of that shit.
>[citation needed]
for what?
THIS IMAGE
That a child has a poorer outcome if not raised by a biological mom and dad vs married gay people.
What about that image?
Here in America gay marriage exists yet straight people are having sex more often than ever before, so I don't see what all the fuss is about.
>if gender identity is not changed by having gay parents, why would sexual orientation?
Are you seriously using made up bullshit as a template?
so basically what we have here is a wide variety of views and now it comes down to methodology
*tips*
>What about that image?
Yep, I win, goodnight
Just a tip for you in the future: learn to follow ID tags. This is an anonymous imageboard, but we have IDs for a given thread so you know who you're talking to.
I stop you right there. it is you who want to convince me that your degenerate ways are not harmful to children. if you wish to make a case for gay marriage the burden of proof is on you. call me fallacious but I simple dont care and I dont have to care.
Gays have always had kids though. The issue is whether they can legally be bound to other gays with children involved bound to both adult parties or if that harms children. I have posted a bunch of evidence that it does not.
Do you think gay men marrying straight women as a beard, having kids, then getting divorced inevitably is a better system?
>agrarian society
>not reproduce like rats
Children were labor for the vast majority of the population for the vast majority of civilizations history. It's arguing from a factually incorrect position.
2 main problems:
1. it shits on old traditions that are probably important for a civilization
2. gays adopting kids is risky
it's about the child that needs a mother and a father and a healthy family environment. if the man secretly likes penis more than pussy literally doesnt matter.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If marriage makes some % more societably stable then that's got to be better than 24/7 Soho.
But the funny thing is your anti-gay researchers, Sullins and Regnerus showed that kids of broken families where at least one parent is gay (less than 1% of which were planned 2 gay parent families) but the other is straight do worse.
If the man secretly likes penis he is going to be more unhappy and that will affect the kids. Also, if he cheats on his wife because he doesn't love her, that will fuck up the kids more than if he is permitted to marry a man that he loves.
the problem is that the man you are describing is a selfish cunt. nothing to do with being gay. just look around on Sup Forums or in real life and see what a broken family does to kids. and yes he can get a civil union. that's enough.
VOTE NO:
Because men and women are fundamentally different, therefore relationships between men and women have fundamentally different norms and needs of social/legal structures compared to relationships between two men or two women. Heterosexual relationships have a norm and a need for monogamy and long-term stability so as to create partnerships able to raise children as a family unit for multiple decades, whilst homosexual relationships have norms of polyamory, multiple sex partners, and short duration (average 4 year relationship length for pairs of gay males, 1 year for pairs of lesbian women.)
Children derive marriage norms & expectations from society, and a generation of children raised with the polyamory and short-duration norms of homosexual "marriages" will have their ability to meet the heterosexual needs of monogamy and long-term stability in marriage diminished. Like with general sexual morality, homosexual norms of gay "marriage" will corrupt heterosexual norms of marriage and lead normal heterosexuals to have expectations of lowered marriage rates, more divorce, more infidelity, and less stable relationships. Less stable marriages lead to broken families, and children raised in broken homes have worse social outcomes that affect society at large via higher welfare, crime, medical costs and so on.
Gay marriage is about replacing the norms & expectations of stable monogamous marriages of heterosexuals (in the minds of children and society at large,) with the norms of unstable polyamourous gay relationships. Any expression that heterosexual marriage norms are better or superior to gay "marriage" norms will be attacked and supressed as homophobic and bigoted. Gay marriage is about dragging the norms & expectations of heterosexual relationships down to the lowest commen denominator of gay instability
Everything about gays
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that is so disgusting
Debunking Regnerus:
rightwingwatch.org
huffingtonpost.com
88 out of 248 of the respondents that were counted as "Parents are of the same sex" responded that their parents were never in a same sex relationship while they were living with them though they had same sex relationships while they were growing up, ie their parents divorced and they ended up with the straight parent but they were still counted as having parents of the same sex
Source
>prc.utexas.edu
>a. Parents are of the same sex
219 active and 29 withdrawn panelists, from Page 3
>prc.utexas.edu
>S8 Did you ever live with your mother while she was in a romantic relationship with another woman?
40 said no, from Page 4
>S9 Did you ever live with your father while he was in a romantic relationship with another man?
48 said no, from Page 4
Yes, that is the official study results
It's an oxymoron
Marriage = union between man and woman
Saying gay marriage make no more sense than saying a gay union between a man and a woman.
As for the legality of a gay union, government shouldn't be involve at all.
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>millennials are gay
They will grow out of it
Reminder to vote no.
Even thought that data shows more people are willing to admit to being gay every year?
Generation zyklon couldn't come at a better time
the cons:
Gehenna
en.wikipedia.org