As a 26 year old, I encounter a lot of NEETS/general unerachievers. Most of them are complete losers, but a lot are smart, talented, attractive, or some other whatever that could get them out of their slump. This is where you should be with your life at your 25th birthday:
>Ability to afford own room in nice shared house/apartment or a modest studio to yourself >Bachelors Degree + 1-2 yrs experience, trade certificate + 3-4 years, no degree 4-5 years >Minimal, sensible debt. No credit card debt or missed payments >Realistic potential to make 6 figures by 30 >Own car (rare exception in big city with really good public transit, shitty streets) >Don't "party" more than once or twice a month anymore, tame when you do >Drugs and alcohol only to extent where they in no way cut into your social life, career >Video games are a rare, stress release (playing an hr of some dumb shooter every now and then, not a consistent hobby). >No anime, manga, wrestling, super heroes, star wars, or other pathetic manchild fandom >In a monogamous relationship or actively seeking one (you're getting to old for hook ups, bucko) >No kids unless married, up to one if married (and can afford it with NO external assistance) >2-3 good confidants, additional 3-4 consistent connects (too many friends is a sign of insecurity, weakness. Too few and you need to stop being an Asperger)
If you meet this reqs you are effectively "sorted" (though always room to grow). If you disagree with anyone you may be part of the problem. Did I miss anything?
Alexander Collins
You forget the first step where you decide if half of the shit you're talking about is really part of your value system and then you tell you to go fuck yourself if the answer is no.
Wyatt Rodriguez
Don't follow, is that to say if you reject most of OP you're an unsalvagable fuckup?
Jace Diaz
>SAGE
Tyler Diaz
Easier said than done, faggot.
>be me, 25 year old >be educated motion graphics specialist >get killer, big city job right out of school >good salary, generous PTO, overtime, benefits >buy dangerous motorcycle >get hot girlfriend >rent nice apartment >success.jpg
>b-but ... suddenly, despite everything, wild quarter-life crisis appears >quit job, leave girlfriend, go to Europe™ >travel aimlessly >return, broke but spiritually fulfilled >move into dad's basement >apply for jobs >tfw can't get jobs >tfw losing hope >tfw giving up
I'm slowly understanding all the sad, kissless cunts who dwell in their parents' basement. It has a lot more to do with luck than you think, OP.
Carson Reed
NEETs are a meme. Maybe 1 or 2 in 100 adult males is a NEET.
Owen Ross
Oh I don't meet all of the above, but first step is to acknowledge them as failings that need to improve. Not make excuses and bitch. I've had some hard luck recently too so does happen, but focus on goal and make sure everything you do brings you a step closer, not away, from it.
That said I know the pain of looking for jobs. Are you pure "white?" I though I was pure as they come aryan male, took an ancestry test, said I was 16% native american. Started checking "mixed race" and "native american" on job apps, suddenly doors opened up a lot more. Affirmative action zeitgeist is really shit right now.
NEET+unambitious faggots that work as checkers at the grocery store for up to 18$ an hr until they die
Close enough, and majority
Jaxson Ramirez
I gave some serious thought to fudging my ethnicity on job applications. Then I started doing it. Some days I'm a Hispanic Jew, others I'm a gay black woman.
I'm white (50/50 German/British). Haven't noticed any difference in responses, but then again, I just recently started not putting "caucasian." We'll see.
About hard work and just "focusing on the goal," I used to feel the same way, but now I don't know. I still bust my ass every day building my portfolio and sending out applications, but it's been over a year now. I work a shit-tier warehouse job to stay afloat.
What do you do?
Jaxon Morris
Sometimes I feel like I am a NEET.
I am 25, dropped out of college, stopped living with my drug addict brother moved back into my moms house.
No debt
I have experience in real estate as a property manager and broker made decent money and dumped it all into my "startup" company. Closed an additional seed round of funding.
Own a car and don't party at all. A set of good quality friends and a 7/10 girlfriend (non white) becoming a doctor.
I think I am just doing it a little bit differently but it does mess with me at times. I have no money and am always broke. Not sure how much more time ill give my self chasing this dream to fulfill my technology but all else fails, Ill join the military and stack muslims for trump.
Jace Walker
Even as a "native" still fucking hard to get notices. HR people for lower experience jobs are borderline retarded. Work on your resume from an "advertising" perspective (make it catch the eye more). Look for networking events and people to network with, maybe tap past peers from school or even teachers that you had a connection with, and in your downtime spend less time fucking around and more improving skills (online classes, etc).
That's what I'm doing, though I've been looking a few mo now, so I may not be the best source of it. That said I'm trying to make a drastic shift out of my old industry and into a new one.
Maybe uber on the side if in an area that can do that. Give you something to do, possibly enough cash to get the fuck out of the basement. Sometimes you just need a change of venue you change your outlook on things.
Austin Wright
No, you just fucked up. Astronomically fucked up.
Henry Carter
No fucking around, here. I burnt out pretty hard halfway through college. Don't smoke, drink, party, nothing at all anymore. I do pretty holistic shit like read books and spend time with family. And I mean what do you do professionally?
Not even. Have you been in a situation that looks "perfect" from the outside, but it's actually a nightmare? That's what it was. Waking up every day for the same stagnant 9 to 5 and wondering "Is this it?" really skins your soul.
Easton Hernandez
Did field apps in a medical device company building toward a field sales role, saw the bullshit in it, made a couple regretful comments, got laid off after a long, political clusterfuck
Went back to school on unemployment at a community college, studied Com Sci and Math. Want to become a software engineer but kinda tough withouth a traditional background.
Anthony Ramirez
I meet most of these requirements and I can assure you I am not fucking sorted.
I got to sort my anxiety issues or I risk losing all those things.
Caleb Jackson
What kind of regretful comments?
Cameron Kelly
Kinda funny in retrospect. Boss legit was psycho and was wigging out once. His name was "Mark" tried to text my mom "Mark is certifiable." Went to wrong "M' contact...
Took several months of him sperging out and he straight lied for the final staw, but he was a VP so he forced his way.
Cameron Gonzalez
>anglocentrism: the post
Nolan Russell
sowwy
Carter Price
I don't even care anymore. Why should I do things to impress people I hate or try to move up the ladder in a society that I loathe? I truly want it all to collapse. Why on earth should I break my back to get a piece of the pie when I know it's all just a sinking ship. I just want to be left alone and pursue my own interests
James Ortiz
For anyone who is a NEET, telling them where they should be by their age is only going to make them double down on their NEETness. Assuming that you genuinely want to help these people and not just feel superior to them, you're better off trying the opposite tact. Convince them to lower their high expectations for their lives so they aren't crippled by guilt and indecision
Tyler Thomas
Nihilism is tempting man, I spent well over a year staring into the abyss.
It's destructive, and only hurts long term
I'm not gonna lie about what a reasonable expectation is, but at 25 you're young and have potential to turn it around before you're too old. Better get the hard truth at 25, than 40 when you're basically too old to fix.
Levi Bailey
>live through two market collapses by age 40 >lose house to vicious dyke whore ex-wife >get medical issues >cash out last of retirement savings to finish masters degree You can do all the right things and still get dicked over.
Brandon Torres
This pretty much.
Luke Campbell
>faggot: the user
Lel. That's happened to me once, and only once, because now I'm extremely cautious with gossipy texts. I was texting this girl from Tinder who was just ... utterly stupid. I let her know it, instead of my buddy. Thanks, brain. The text was pretty extreme, too, like "god DAMN is this Tinder cunt a total fucking retard"
I'm right there with you, but I don't think we're gonna see anything collapse for a pretty long time. The US/West is too strong.
Samuel Brooks
apparence, attirance, confiance
The first thing that matters when you meet a woman is your appearance, if you have greasy hair, dirty teeth and ugly clothes, chances are she will give you a fake number and run away. Then you need to see if you have a connection with her, that's attraction. If you keep making allusions to sex because you haven't gotten laid in 6 months, chances are she will 360 and walk away. Finally you need to establish trust, talk to her about personal things so she knows you're not some creepy wierdo trying to feed her a bowl of eggs in the morning and you might get laid.
Jaxson Fisher
>Don't "party" more than once or twice a month anymore, tame when you do >Drugs and alcohol only to extent where they in no way cut into your social life, career >Video games are a rare, stress release (playing an hr of some dumb shooter every now and then, not a consistent hobby). >No anime, manga, wrestling, super heroes, star wars, or other pathetic manchild fandom >In a monogamous relationship or actively seeking one (you're getting to old for hook ups, bucko) >No kids unless married, up to one if married (and can afford it with NO external assistance)
So why do you exist? It clearly isn't fun or simply hedonism, it isn't self fulfillment or spiritual enlightenment or else you wouldn't be a simple a wage slave, and its clearly not simple procreation or else you should have several kids by 25.
Asher Flores
because if you get a piece of it you can buy a shit ton of crap off amazon
Christopher Lewis
To anyone who can chime in here >graduate at 21 with honors, applied math econ >no jobs, never worked, cant find shit in socal >almost 23 I am thinking of moving to the midwest and just seeing what happens. A lot of people say programming, but theres none of that in my area (everyone commutes in my area), and I dont even know where I would/should start. I have a monogamous relationship that's serious, though it's been rough since she's in a similar boat though she has work experience. Oh my parents are super liberal and would let me stay mindlessly at their house for years. I don't party, dont do drugs, and would love to drop video games, but I have absolutely nothing to fill my time.
Logan Collins
>be me >25 y/o male >no >no >yes >no >no >I never "partied", I just like to go to the clubs >yes >no >no >yes >yes >no
sage btw
Ethan Hall
What if I'm a 22 year old NEET who got incredibly lucky and turned $3k into $4 million in 2 years?
Ryder Cox
Fellow SoCal fag. Job market here is pretty shit. I'm about to move to bay area or NC or somethign myself for that reason.
Chase Smith
BTC investments aren't sorting yourself out, they're winning the lottery. Most lottery winners are broke in 5 years, dont me a tard with it or you'll end off worse off than you were.
Nathan Lopez
>>Realistic potential to make 6 figures by 30 m8 no one in my family makes 6 figures. the rest is pretty standard tho
Evan Fisher
DON'T COME TO THE MIDWEST
I spent a few years in the Bay. The nature/environment simply can't be beat, but the people... Jesus fucking christ. I hope you're liberal. Well, I don't, but figure of speech.
Then post your bank account number. And then tell us how you did it
Jeremiah Diaz
>wew, telling others how to live. How about this, I do what makes me happy. I already gave over 5 years of my youth to the military, I think I'll do some things for me now.
Daniel Stewart
yes across the board for me.
Luis Hernandez
He did bitcoin He bought when they where 1 dollar each Now they're 3k each
Jaxson Martin
What's your situation? In some ways, I just want to fucking work and live on my own. I feel like once I have that everything will be fine, but it's so stupid to get a job here especially because >Requirements: Spanish What's wrong with the midwest? Was thinking Sioux Falls since there's jobs and it's cheap. Hate this weather and want 4 seasons btw.
Owen Kelly
>Bachelors Degree + 1-2 yrs experience, trade certificate + 3-4 years, no degree 4-5 years Fuck off you education shill, I'm a programmer and never even signed up for a single college class. It baffles me people go to school to work as a programmer. >No anime, manga Do you realize what website you are on? I think reddit would be more to your liking.
Ryder Nelson
im 26 i played video games 12 hours today
Josiah Diaz
Oh I fucking know. I went to college at UC Berkeley, I'm not full alt right or anthing but right of center, fucking hell. There are hidden right leaning groups, but hard to find.
m8 noone in your family above 30 made the right decisions. Develop skills that make someone else money, and they'll give you money to do it. Permanently do a go nowhere job and you'll stay where you are.
What do you mean situation? Educated, just short of work exp I have, wealthy through combination of inheritance and using it wisely. Ideally want 2 more years work experience, then to get a masters of financial engineering
Fag
Fag
Josiah Stewart
>giving money to Jeff Bezos You are part of the problem.
Jaxson Martinez
yeah im a faggot loser, thats why im here m8
Thomas Smith
t. well adjusted, well raised, well educated upper middle class delusions
Brayden Bell
time to keep pressing your bets friendo. nobody ever made it to $5 billion being comfortable with $4 million in their early 20s. you should start a venture capital firm and hire me to be your associate, I already live in silicon valley so that's simple, and you don't have to pay me anything, just give me a cut of the equity on the deals I find for you. what do you say big hitter? how much do you want to put down on your first SV bet? a nickel? a dime? a quarter?
Jose Gray
>t. fag
Joshua Taylor
We need superheros user. #OperationMetal
Lucas Baker
that's a pretty bold statement, and it wouldn't be wise to say that to someone's face. I don't know where you live where that's something even obtainable without 20+ years experience. west coast perhaps?
Jose Carter
>This is where you should Stopped reading there. I presume the rest of your post is some shitty opinion.
Brody Cook
Fuck off
Julian Scott
The Midwest is largely less interesting than the coasts, and the people are way fatter. We do have seasons, though. I forgot about that. I was losing my mind not having seasons in San Francisco. I always start to think, "man I wish I had bought bitcoi-" but then I realize I didn't have money back then either
Landon Nelson
Nah, you're retarded, this is the reason lottery winners go broke.
I'm going to get comfy on my 5-8% returns off that 4 mil.
David Collins
What game?
Gabriel Gray
>Ability to afford own room in nice shared house/apartment or a modest studio Keep paying Mr.Scheckelsteinbergovitz the rent.
Aaron White
>26 >minimum cuck job >living with parent but paying half the bills >own a car at least
I'm tired of being a manlet and want get out but what job do I go for? I really don't want to go back to school.
I was thinking about becoming a Correctional Officer. A friend did it and now makes like $18hr.
Anyone else in that field or have advice?
Joshua Roberts
S A G E A G E
Lincoln Gray
YOU FUCKING THREATENING ME BISHE!!!???!!
That said, part of "right decisions" is moving out of a go nowhere bump in the road.
>Manlet If it really holds you up, consider leg lengthening surgery? Heard you can get it professionally done for like 30k
Michael Watson
Go do another FX course. The recruiters will catch you on the way out the other end. Its very likely an HR issue where they don't take chances on randos, only new graduates.
Levi Wright
I spend most of my time indoors and away from clubs and all that shit, let alone the beach, disneyland, etc. I'd much rather do some backpacking or something. Anyways, my point is Cali is stupid expensive because of all the "entertainment" but I never use it so I could live the same life anywhere else in the country for the most part.
Nolan Harris
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Joseph Hill
That sounds like somebody who has his life in order. However, you can still have all those things and be dead inside. Humans are just as much spiritual creatures as we are physical, and we should cultivate a sense of duty, gravitas, compassion, and reverence for God and tradition.
Hunter Edwards
Checkt What did you go to school for? I always said I would never go back to school (aka take on more debt), but now that my back is against the work-a-shitty-minimum-wage-job-for-the-rest-of-my-life wall, I'm reconsidering.
Camden Clark
>quarter life crisis Maybe if you were 'sorted out' and not just a little bitch who couldn't think, you wouldn't have lost most of what you had
I don't feel an ounce of emphath. You completely fucked up
Jeremiah Roberts
I dont think he meant manlet that way.
18 an hour is still cuck wage. since you don't want to go to school, you need to start up a company, and with trump in office it should be a good time for that
Ian Morgan
No. I don't need to meet your standards to feel happy and fulfilled.
Matthew Harris
>what is family >what is community ties so you're a globalist. and once again, I don't know where you live that both parents need to be making over $100k/yr to live comfortably with 2 kids. it sounds like a hellhole run by jews.
Hudson Price
A small loan of one million dollars: the post
Kevin Gomez
>no anime, manga Fuck off, go to reddit newfag.
Also fuck off for the fact that most of these are hard as fuck even for the greatest people.
Announcing sage is against the rules, please lead yourself to the nearest gas chamber.
Adrian Baker
Blindly holding onto family and friends from your youth holds you back from your potential Look up "Crab Mentality," tough but necessary redpill to swallow if you actually want to make some impact.
Don't be a fag.
Alexander Watson
I am 26 and I am going to give you some sage advice if you can't get your life together. Do hard drugs. Take some acid and lock yourself in a room and let your ego die over and over again. Smoke meth and stay up for a week straight. Smoke weed every single day. You have to get the money somehow, you'll get a job and be out of your basement in no time and by then you're a functioning member of society. Then you can begin to work on your crippling meth addiction. That's what I did and I recommend it to all of you.
Grayson Rogers
You first
Brandon Jenkins
The only part about the OP that is remotely difficult is having a good job. Unemployment for young people is around 30% here, with an additional huge amount chronically under-employed. Even the most successful people I know in my demographic are massively in debt to afford anything "necessary" like a house or car or something.
Christopher Ross
>flag It's not that simple, you fucking fart. I traded financial stability for adventure and reconnecting with my family. B-but please give me your empathy because I really needed that >thinks anyone reads the rules
Aiden Parker
How to get laid 2.0
Appearence
The first thing that matters when you meet a woman is your appearance, if you have greasy hair, dirty teeth and ugly clothes, chances are she will give you a fake number and run away. You should have clothes that match your style and have good hygiene. Its often overlooked that just a small detail in clothing example: (Wearing a hat) can change a lot.
Attraction
Then you need to see if you have a connection with her. Not everybody have compatible personalities, don't try to like someone. When you're making conversation with her, if you keep making allusions to sex because you haven't gotten laid in 6 months, chances are she will 360 and walk away.
Trust
Finally you need to establish trust, talk to her about personal things about yourself, so she knows you're not some creepy wierdo. Don't get upset if she denies you (Alpha), but don't let her control you either(Beta).
Elijah Cox
Anons should read the rules. Board quality would be better.
Rather, more anons need to call out these newfags and get them out, or at least force them to assimilate.
Eli Clark
>he fell for the travel while you're young meme
We warned you
Angel Adams
>Alpha >Co-operates with women >Intrigued by women >Views women as partners >Sex is about communication
That's, uh, that's nice? I mean, it's horrifically wrong and spectacularly delusional, but... hey, it's the thought that counts, bucko.
Connor Smith
t. BTFO numale non-rebuttal
Brody Gutierrez
>Ability to afford own room in nice shared house/apartment or a modest studio to yourself >Bachelors Degree + 1-2 yrs experience, trade certificate + 3-4 years, no degree 4-5 years >Minimal, sensible debt. No credit card debt or missed payments >Realistic potential to make 6 figures by 30 >Own car (rare exception in big city with really good public transit, shitty streets) >Don't "party" more than once or twice a month anymore, tame when you do >Drugs and alcohol only to extent where they in no way cut into your social life, career >Video games are a rare, stress release (playing an hr of some dumb shooter every now and then, not a consistent hobby). >No anime, manga, wrestling, super heroes, star wars, or other pathetic manchild fandom >In a monogamous relationship or actively seeking one (you're getting to old for hook ups, bucko) >No kids unless married, up to one if married (and can afford it with NO external assistance) >2-3 good confidants, additional 3-4 consistent connects (too many friends is a sign of insecurity, weakness. Too few and you need to stop being an Asperger)
Sorry i have to disagree with your stupid society infused idiot "goals" But in reality no one remotely sane gives a shit about any of this crap.
Carson Nguyen
This.
Isaiah Reed
>Ability to afford own room in nice shared house/apartment or a modest studio to yourself Check >Bachelors Degree + 1-2 yrs experience, trade certificate + 3-4 years, no degree 4-5 years Also check >Minimal, sensible debt. No credit card debt or missed payments Check >Realistic potential to make 6 figures by 30 Hell no, unless inflation keeps going up >Own car (rare exception in big city with really good public transit, shitty streets) Paying for a car is retarded. There are a million other things I would rather spend my money on. >Don't "party" more than once or twice a month anymore, tame when you do lel, check >Drugs and alcohol only to extent where they in no way cut into your social life, career check >Video games are a rare, stress release (playing an hr of some dumb shooter every now and then, not a consistent hobby). Sounds boring desu >No anime, manga, wrestling, super heroes, star wars, or other pathetic manchild fandom You sound like a real fun guy, I bet you collect stamps >In a monogamous relationship or actively seeking one (you're getting to old for hook ups, bucko) Nice joke >No kids unless married, up to one if married (and can afford it with NO external assistance) See above >2-3 good confidants, additional 3-4 consistent connects (too many friends is a sign of insecurity, weakness. Too few and you need to stop being an Asperger) Also see above
Have fun being miserable.
Cameron Walker
What's up wagie? too bad your two days of freedom ends, but without your work mr. shekelstein won't be able to finance his new car. i'm sure he'll appreciate your efforts and give you a raise so you can buy even more stuff! remember, happiness is just around a corner... Another day another dollar
Bentley Wood
>Ability to afford own room in nice shared house/apartment or a modest studio to yourself Live with parents but I work for my father so being close to his office is good >Bachelors Degree + 1-2 yrs experience, trade certificate + 3-4 years, no degree 4-5 years No degree, work in IT family business >Minimal, sensible debt. No credit card debt or missed payments No debt >Realistic potential to make 6 figures by 30 Already do >Own car (rare exception in big city with really good public transit, shitty streets) Share a car with my girl >Don't "party" more than once or twice a month anymore, tame when you do Easiest thing on the list >Drugs and alcohol only to extent where they in no way cut into your social life, career Social drinker, usually only 2-3 drinks once every few weeks, sometimes have a nip of scotch or port after dinner, or a glass of red with dinner >Video games are a rare, stress release (playing an hr of some dumb shooter every now and then, not a consistent hobby). I play about an hour a day >No anime, manga, wrestling, super heroes, star wars, or other pathetic manchild fandom Guitar, reading, woodcraft and motor-racing as hobbies >In a monogamous relationship or actively seeking one (you're getting to old for hook ups, bucko) 5 years now, probably propose soon >No kids unless married, up to one if married (and can afford it with NO external assistance) No children (yet) >2-3 good confidants, additional 3-4 consistent connects (too many friends is a sign of insecurity, weakness. Too few and you need to stop being an Asperger) I have 1 friend of roughly 15 years I see multiple times a week, another of 15 years (both met first year of highschool actually) I see once every two weeks, and a few others I see once every few months, plus a few overseas I met while I lived abroad.
Am I doing good?
Aiden Ortiz
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Joshua Bell
Why do you keep posting these?
Yeah, they should, but good luck with that. Sup Forums has been a lost cause since it entered the political lexicon. There aren't any oldfags on Sup Forums. The smart ones grew up and the annoying elitist ones fucked off to infinitychan.
Well, my parents never did it, and neither did any of my friends. At least I know what it's like.
Noah Nelson
you forgot where mommy and daddy gave it to you. I piss on all of you
Ryder King
no thanks op, go fucking kys
Leo White
>hey guys just fyi if you aren't able to tick all these unrealistic boxes or boxes counter to the core culture of this website you're a failure ;) Wow op quality thread
Isaiah Bennett
Oldfags aren't on infinitychan, that place is a toxic waste land.
Actually, a lot of oldfags are still here on Sup Forums, just lurning. I guess the others are on 420-chan and whatnot.
/jp/ has been doing a good job of re-animefying Sup Forums, at least...
Carter Young
They're not entirely realistic, they're just the expectations of someone raised in a complete bubble of privilege
Jack Martinez
The concentration of butthurt loser numales is making me fucking hard
David Brooks
>realistic potential to make 6 figures by 30 That is when I knew this what bullshit.
Lincoln Robinson
>Le sort yourself out face!
Josiah Sullivan
K say you're a dumb dumb >Join military for 4 years >Get job as mechanic >Save/invest money you mach well >Exit at 22, work in shop >By 30 you can own your own shop, making 100k+ easy
I'm not saying be a millionaire, just dont be a fag
Isaiah Bennett
Checkt. I did the same thing user but now I'm just a NEET
James White
Burn in Hell, reprobate faggot.
Asher Allen
>make 6 figures and stop enjoying things I don't enjoy or you're a faggot
Wowee you're so alpha :^)
Robert Sanchez
Get a real job, hippy
Jonathan Smith
I'm 25 working on my BA and I haven't moved out yet but hopefully I do next year!
Jayden Jenkins
>the jew thrives off of your credit. no thanks faggot, go fucking kys