Why do y'all hate communism so kuch

Communism works if executed properly, it just hasn't been given a proper chance

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communism does not work because people like to own things.

Couldn't you think up a better bait thread? This is fucking weak

Communism doesn't work because people aren't equal, and never will be.

the question is why do YOU hate freedom

why are you so scared about people not telling you to do things

you sound like a weak pussy

Because it's completely impossible to execute properly. Its assumptions are faulty and its historical theory is objectively false.
I'm not totally opposed to certain strains of revisionism though. You could make a solid case for Stalinist Russia being the good guy in the Cold War and China basically got to fascism through the back door.

How Do You Fail At Communism Haha Just Seize The Means Of Production XD

So you intentionally said something stupid and wrong. Do you feel better now?

Socialist revolutions are usually realized in the poorest and most backwards regions of the world. Breakdowns of order in such conditions lend themselves to despots taking power and betraying the genuine leftists: see the Free State of Ukraine, the Ultras, and Catalonia.

Burgers are just so spooked they think welfare is socialism or some shit.

Personal property is OK in marxism

The communist maxim is " from each according to their ability. To each according to their need", as you can see, individual differences are acknowledged.

National Bolshevism and national socialism are better
Pure socialism is for cucks

live in the fucking result of communism,that's really good reason to hate it desu.

what about NAP?

>Russian "civil" war
>it's slightly smaller world war

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>Russian Civil War.
>Trotsky Frog
>Lenin
>No Stalin

Come now Comrade are we forgetting that it was Stalin's glorious cleansing that secured victory for the reds over the whites.

It took ruthlessness to secure victory.

>muh gorrillions

Here's the true problem with Communism. As of now, due to technological and sociological issues Communism is impossible. Because of this it inevitably fails.

What would happen if it could work?
Due to advances in automation and AI, could the need to work for sustenance be abolished? To me this would lead to a society that is absolutely degenerate, not having to work a day in their lives, just being free to indulge in their base desires.

This future isn't Star Trek, it's the Eldar from 40k.

Communism makes people weak, limp-wristed, state-dependent and degenerate.

youtube.com/watch?v=NepI7BTYpnY

And thin.

You're a fucking retard, the US spends more on welfare than any other nation, and what you fuckers want is MORE SPENDING.

still lost to Poland

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>Communism works if executed properly
Communism and Christianity rely on an utopia where human beings are pretty much perfect in order to work, that's why they fail.

Communism is a food or thought life style you can't have both

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Paris Commune will rise again.
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The only thing communism executes properly is other communists.

>lets eliminate the bourgeoise by letting a small group of elites run the country

>communism ISN'T retarded

>works if executed properly, it just hasn't been given a proper chance

So would Fascism.

>inb4 "off-topic"

>Communism works if
Stopped reading right there
Sage

Exactly. If you can make the argument for Communism. Why not make it for Fascism to? Because they are basically rooted in the same ideology.

Why do you guys hate nazis so much ?

Not an argument.

>Communism works if executed properly
Sage pls.

An idealogy is called an ideology because it cannot be implemented into a reality and therefore remains an idealogy. Therefore all ideologies are inherently deemed to failure because in their holistic form they are unworkable. That is why communism will never worked and elements of, such as social health care, has been implemented with success in some countries albeit incredibly inefficient due to the shortcomings of work motiviation with collectivist systems.

>Free State of Ukraine
Owned by the more based soviets.
>Catalonia
Owned by based Franco.

>Proper chance
If all-powerful dictators who have no issue killing people who reject communism isn't giving it "a proper chance", I don't know what is

Fascism isn't an economic model like communism, nor is it as strictly defined, it's simply the idea that the state (government) is above all. While I don't agree with fascism, there's a reason it can and has "worked".

Fascism works in the same way an absolute monarchy works.

Fascism's major problem for lasting is it has no real way of ensuring it's continued "success" after its leader resigns/dies

>if executed properly
have you even read the manifesto? it is pure vitriol and spite. no good can come from such a text. it offers no solutions to any problem, all it does is call for destruction and mayhem. the name is fairly ironic; while it claims to be about the commune it provides no unity, and in fact drives people apart. i dislike most organized religion and am especially skeptical of islam, yet i would say the communist manifesto (and das kapital) are infinitely more dangerous than the quran and the hadiths are.

Un flags are worse than blm and kekastan flags.

Communists want to abolish the white race

who decides need? who decides ability? if everyone is going to get the same result, why should i work hard? how do you know that under "true communism," where everybody has all their needs taken care of, we will be happier? how can a state body effectively acknowledge the individuals differences and effectively direct those individuals to get the most "ability" out of them?

the one good thing that came from socialism are the jokes.
>i hear the lubyanka is the tallest building in the world. you can see siberia all the way from moscow!
>they pretend to pay us, we will pretend to work!
>did you hear? there is a secret kgb department dedicated to creating and disseminating anti-soviet jokes among the population to keep people from getting too restless

Communism works if humans were robots.

>if executed properly

helicopter rides are proper

Same with capitalism.

Hey faggot of you are going to use the "that wasn't real Communism" argument then I'm going to use the "that wasn't real capitalism" counter.

Go kill yourself.

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Why don't communists stop improperly executing people, then.

I don't hate communism.

I hate people.

Because Communism in Russia was such as resounding success

Almost everyone will just do what they absolutely need to to stay alive. So if it's easier to produce one larger product then many small ones, if you ask a factory to produce 4 tons of chandeliers you'll get one 4 ton chandelier.

Only difference being, you can actually put data forward for the success of capitalism... Not so much for communism!

Not real gommunism :DDD

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>Why do y'all hate communism
Because I have first-hand experience of it, and compared to capitalism, its utter shit.
There's not even single thing I miss about USSR.

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>le genius KGB man meme

>Why do you hate scams so much?

Since this is a thread about communism and I believe this is some sort of hidden level of communism. It's put up in the staff area at my work and I want to know where it comes from.

All i can find about it is this.
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I don't want to share. I'm greedy. If I work for something, why should someone else benefit from it. I don't owe them shit. There is no benefit for me to give effort and produce a surplus. The only way you get me out of bed in this government system is by threat of jail or execution. I am nobody, and will never really live while under threat of punishment.

because I don't want anyone to decide what I want for me, collectivism is cancer

What has communism done for me lately?

This isn't 1870, we know it doesn't work. From each according to ability to each according to need, is fucking bullshit. If you want to do it go put in a forty hour work week and then give all the money to charity.
I bet you won't...

Capitalism takes 30% of what productive worker does in order to invest in new productions and technology.
Communism takes 95% of what productive worker does in order to make him "even" with slackers, drunkards and other trash.

>le ameritard knows better

How much of your labor do you give to each according to need? None? Yeah that's what I thought hypocrite.

Let me explain why it doesn’t work.

A class has 20 students, 10 work hard and get the best grades, 10 don’t and get the worst, one day the teacher decides that everyone will get the same grade, the average grade of the class.

This works while the guys that work hard keep working hard, but if you work to score a 10 and you end up scoring a 5 same as the people that don’t, sooner or later you’ll say fuck it and then the system collapses.

That’s communism for you

Jesus Christ, first picture of that shitshow I've ever seen.

Because it only works when people are executed. Communism = murder. Sage.

The teacher should grade on a curve so everyone passes. Lol.

Communism is Judaism for the goyim. The Jews get to be the societal masters, the elite, under their communism.

Goyim exist only to serve Jews as slaves. Goyim were only born to serve us. Without that they have no place in the world. Only to serve the people of Israel. Why are gentiles needed? They are only here to work. They will work, they will plow. They will reap. We will sit like effendi and eat. That is why gentiles were created.

Who determines need and ability, and how are they not a dictator at that point

>everyone should pass
just as wrong as giving everyone the grade average.

>the kgb knows nothing about cultural subversion
le epik commies r dum meme

Humanity is not developed enough for communism, try again in a couple of thousands of years

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It is the polar opposite of freedom. It's Jewish enslavement of a population. It should be stamped out in every way possible. The hammer and sickle should be illegal and anyone arguing for it should be punished and reeducated about what it truly is in practice, or just killed immediately.

It is weak AF bait. Not sure how it garnered this kind of attention.

>communism works

Look at Latin America, does it look good to you? More than half of Latin American countries have left-wing governments, had a left-wing dictatorship at some point, currently have a left-wing dictatorship, or a mix of the 3.

Just look at this picture. The country with the highest HDI in Latin America is the same country that used to throw commies out of helicopters.

All of Central America (but Panama) was/is under the grasp of socialism, coincidentally it's the shittest part of Latin America.

I don't know how Venezuela is 7 on the list, left-wing dictatorships are known to lie about their statistics.

Panama has like 100k Venezuelans or some shit like that and they all whine about how shit socialism is. Long lines, inflation, scarcity, violence, government brainwashing, the list goes.

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Able enough to look up the numbers, smart enough to know what they mean, but so foolish you can't even tell bait from reality.

Capitalism -
Corrupt Privileged elites fucking you over for their own benefit
You can choose to work or not
If you are successful you can retire
If you have wealth you can choose not to work
Even if you are a lazy fuck or just unlucky as hell, the state will keep you alive via welfare

Communism -
Corrupt Privileged elites fucking you over for their own benefit
You are forced to work
You cant choose not to
The state will put you in a ditch

Its the same with lefty idiots who go on about healthcare. Communist government wants worker drones, if you have a medical condition that is expensive or requires long term care they would sooner have you die than bother treating it

I know it's bait, I'm just bored. I miss 2011 Sup Forums.

Everything is "bait", ironic shitposting or unironic shitposting or people literally getting paid to shill here. I miss when no one gave a fuck about Sup Forums or Sup Forums. Even /r9k/ is shit.

half my relatives died underneath it

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>Communism works if executed properly
How do you know? No country has ever achived it.
There is a reason why it didn't work. It's against human nature.

>le epik commies r dum meme
If you watch a political system collapse, time and again (I mean shit the USSR was The Paradise) and you still think--it hasn't REALLY been given a chance--you might be a moron.

I don't know enough about economics to argue on that front, but issues with it are moral and philosophical.

Marxism's need for the eradication of religion, family, and individualism from the world seems very alien. Without these, it almost seems like a departure from the human condition. The "utopia" that Marx offers doesn't seem appealing to me at all, if you really want to know what I mean, I suggest you look up Nietzsche's Last Man speech Zarathustra makes in the prologue of Thus Spoke Zarathustra.

"One still works, for work is a pastime. But one is careful lest the pastime should hurt one.
One no longer becomes rich or poor; both are too burdensome.
Who still wants to rule? Who still wants to obey? Both are too burdensome.
No Shepard, and one Herd! Everyone wants the same; everyone IS the same: whoever feels different goes willingly into the madhouse.
'Formerly all the world was insane,' - say the subtlest of them and blink.

A world where everyone has what they want and no needs where you look and act just like everyone else because there IS no other way since any contrary "opinions" were wiped away during the worldwide Communist revolution. It sounds like the lifestyle of cattle. It doesn't sound like a world worth living in. It very much makes this quote reality:

"This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang, but a whimper."

everything modern humans do is against hooman nature

or just better spending

>nihilism
>unironically enjoying being a bot

Checks out.

:) How so?

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>it works if you try
>but it's never worked before
In the same breath you said it works, then said it has never worked in practice. This removes all ligetamicy from the claim and puts it at best as a political theory.
Weak bait 2/10 for reply. Try harder faggot.

Communism calls for the destruction of the old world through the blood of billions.

Communists kill religious folk
Communists kill the elderly
Communists kill scholars
Communist kill those who won't conform

Communism on paper is evil and will never be executed in my home country without millions of their comrades getting slaughtered by my fellow American nationalists.

Fuck the UN!

you really have to define what "works" means first

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Because its inherently evil by requiring the annihilation of citizens that don't adhere to it's code.
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