What is Rojava?

Hey Sup Forums so catch me up to speed on Rojava? What's going on over there and why is it a good thing. I've just started discovering Anarchy so I don't know much yet but it appeals to me more so then other ideologies. Apparently based off of my recent digging Rojava is a Libertarian-Socalist rebellion? What's happening exactly and what do these Kurds believe? I know I'm late, but it's difficult to find recent updates on these folk.

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What the fuck are you talking about? Anarchism isn't anything an it's the most retarded and useless ideology that ever existed in history.
Stop b8ing m8.

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Okay that's your opinion, I'm just asking about Rojava.

So you know about it?

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You're a faggot and rojava is faggot land. I reccomed moving there and fighting for it's future, hopefully you get shot. Kurds are communist sandniggers and not better than regular sandniggers. Saddam did nothing wrong.

Google it faggot, it's the open internet for a reason.
It's not a rebellion since there is basically no one to rebel against with Assad being busy fighting ISIS and these are basically communist ideologues ghat want a commie state in the middle east, meaning double the massacre, double the refugees, and that they won't get anything but a sorta autonomous region and that's it.

All I'm asking for is a explanation, ya'll don't have to jump down my throat because muh internet.

Rojava is not anarchist. The YPG are fighting for a Kurdish state in Northern Syria with the ideology of Democratic Confederalism. I recommend you read some works for of Abdullah Ocalan - Liberating Life and War & Peace being good places to start.

I saw on youtube that the leader I forget his name read about Boochkin I think it was and decided to implement those ideologies into a rebellion.

And are they winning or? I literally learned about it a couple days ago and don't know much, I saw a video with Chomsky saying that they'll be land locked and it's useless basically.

Yes, Democratic Confederalism has taken inspiration from from Anarchists like Bookchin and I was simple in saying that the YPG seek to create a state in the strictest sense of the word but I would struggle to call the Rojava project 'Anarchist' as well. Democratic Confederalism fits it well as it gives autonomy to small communities but there are still elements in place that you and I would recognise as state infrastructure. Hope that makes sense to you

Yes the YPG are part of the Syrian Democratic Forces. They have been fighting a long war against Islamic State and with support from the Western coalition (US, UK, France etc.) as well as more recently from the Russians they have carved out an area in Northern Syria. They are currently fighting IS in Raqqa and have captured most of the city.

So America and our allies are for these people? Or is it for convenience?

This thread gives me cancer. Do me and everyone a favor and go back to leftypol.
Anarchism is the ideology of literally nothing.

I wouldn't think that anybody would allow such a system to be tried in this day in age, let alone backed by the world powers.

What's lefty pol?

Eh, partly because they've been an effective ally in fighting IS so there is convenience there. It'll be interesting to see how the Western powers view Rojava after IS is defeated, especially as Turkey is clear in wanting to see them destroyed. Rojava is closely linked to the PKK (Kurdish Workers Party) in Turkey who are fighting an insurgency against the Turkish state in the south of the country.

The middle east has complicated politics. Sometimes the enemy of your enemy does become your friend, briefly. But allegiances can and do shift. Time will tell.

Rojava is a tiny kurdish marxist-leninist self-sustaining commune

I see, so more then likely they'll be crushed by Assad, Putin, and, Erogen or whatever Turkeys new God emperors name is. I don't they'll allow such a system and if they do it'll be like Chomsky said land locked, no allies.

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Rojova is a cryptostate that has sprung up in the parts of Syria controlled by the Kurds.

Lefties love it because the Kurds are pretty hard left.

There's a particular love for the alternative police system they have (it's essentially mob justice but don't tell the lefties that).

Also interesting views
I heard about how everybody gets police training so they can rid themselves of a police force.

Difficult to say, there have been sporadic clashes between the SAA and YPG during the civil war but it's quite possible that Rojava will be abandoned by other powers once IS is finished. The PKK still maintain camps inside Turkey so it's possible the YPG will do the same even if they lose control of territory, towns and populations.

>There's a particular love for the alternative police system they have

This is why I'm trying to say that it's not an Anarchist utopia. A lot of Western lefties like to think it's some anarcho libertarian socialist utopia but often the most repressive aspects of the state continue to exist. If they did not then Rojava itself would already have long since existing.

Yeah I'm under no illusion that ill live in utopia in my lifetime, but this whole Rojava thing is a step in the right direction as fair as I know. Will be interesting, if it's worth fighting for any of s could have our own homage to Catalonia.

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Yes, it's a step in the right direction and the YPG have fought hard and bravely against IS. Whether you think it's worth fighting for is something you should spend more than a few days looking into before deciding upon. There are a lot of things to read and a lot to consider.
Good luck.

Yeah I know that lol but I'm just saying someone might.

Yes that's it. It's literally a system created because there's no one to uphold the law in these areas.

I don't trust the average person to be able to make a decent coffee or drive and you are okay with everyone being a police officer?

Every random dipshit you know expected to be able to interview rape victims, secure crime scenes, police riots, engage in high speed pursuits, etc...

I figure that to be subjective, I think all human beings are kind at their core. It's all mostly a base of are we good enough, I don't think we are yet even though some of us can be.

Another Oil Reserve state for the US except it's a fake communist utopia. Fags like Pisspiggranddad are literally dying for Israel.

I never said I was ok with this. I was agreeing with you for the most part. A lot of lefties think this police system is great while denigrating western police forces and complaining about the state. I was making the point that OP should not think that Rojava is an Anarchist project and your point about the police force reinforces my point that Rojava is not Anarchist.

>I think all human beings are kind at their core

There is no such thing as 'human nature' - human beings are typically naturally cooperative creatures that work in groups but there is no fixed idea of what human nature is. What humans are, act and do is a reflection of the particular materialist conditions they find themselves in at any given time.
You may also like to look in to historical and dialetical materialism.

Rojava could survive after IS is defeated, if they take control of the oil production in that area and make new friends.

Russia has more nukes then the US, he could easily carpet bomb the whole area if Assad tells him too. All of Syria belongs to him, not anarchists funded by the (((Allies)))

Idk I'd have to look into it more like I said I just discovered all this but I think personally human beings are good, just not good enough yet.

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>(((allies)))
Maybe so but the Kurdish people should get their own section communist, anarchists, or capitalist, doesn't really matter.

>I heard about how everybody gets police training so they can rid themselves of a police force.
>if everyone is cop, no one is criminal
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Yes of course, why didnt we think of this sooner lol

The US and Israel have no right to be in Syria, they're getting their asses kicked by doing so. Rojava is weaker then it seems since they're mostly taking over the least populated areas. Once Assad is done with ISIL he'll focus his efforts on oil states like Rojava. The Kurdish people (Not Iraqi Kurdistan) are anarchist thugs who want to import US degeneracy to the Middle East. They're openly funded by Israel and the Allied states.