The State of Jefferson is a proposed US state in Northern California (less prominent, but noticeable in Southern Oregon). The State was first proposed in 1941 and a movement quickly sprung up. However, due to the importance of WW2, the movement quickly died down. Many years later during the 90s, the movement resurfaced. As California began rearing towards a very left leaning blue state, more and more northern counties, fed up with being tossed out and disregarded by the Californian government, began the campaign once more to create the State of Jefferson. This will not only bring a conservative state to the west coast, but put a dent in the democrat stranglehold of California and the west coast in general. Since Oroville, the movement has exploded in popularity, making it the most vocal state separation movement in the US. (Note there is another secession movement in Southern California known as the "State of Jackson", however it is not nearly as prominent as the conservative led movement in Northern California).
I'd prefer helicopter rides or ((((((((((suicide))))))))))
Owen Rodriguez
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Brayden Diaz
When are we gonna seperate northern and south florida? Or are we gonna reconquista soflo for the confederacy?
Robert Miller
Make an official movement with committees, then we will discuss.
Oliver Taylor
Fuck California
Josiah Evans
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Xavier Rivera
I like my Jefferson with a side of Oregon. Hold the Portland.
Asher Thompson
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Thomas Mitchell
>tfw will have to make $100k+ a year before I can even move out of my house
JUST
Hunter Nelson
nice, but we need Mariposa county in Jefferson to steal Yosemite from California.
Eli Peterson
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Christian Gray
Tahoe boys
Brayden Rogers
they haven't filed declarations, although they're welcome if they get it together
also ultimate aliance
Evan Garcia
sonoma as well for economic reasons.
William Allen
Neither has any of the Oregon counties. It's mostly a Californian movement by this point.
Brandon Lopez
Gross, and no.
Sebastian Kelly
>Doesn't include the Tahoe region
Wyatt Lee
i bet you eat soup with a fork
Carter Flores
About the map in ops pic, pretty sure Alpine and Mono counties would want to join.
Jack Price
They declined the offer.
John Murphy
fair
they can be annexed later
Leo Reed
Yes a brilliant idea! Let us get all of the poorest counties in Northern California and create a state, that won't ruin the economy or anything for these folk.
Jordan Rivera
Apologies for not wanting a far left leaning county that could fuck over our elections, when the whole purpose of the movement is to escape that shit.
Tyler Brown
Me too brothers. Me too.
Easton Bell
They are poor due to the amount of neglect that California puts them through. The amount of business restrictions, crumbling infrastructure, and high tax rates fuck the rural counties. I suggest you actually research the topic before spewing that kind of sarcasm.
Austin Rogers
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Ayden Rivera
I'm old enough to remember when people actually wanted this in the 70s. It ain't going happen because they'll get poorer afterward. Not everybody is a libertarian and la la la.... You know what I mean. Instead of pie in the sky wanting to be part of something style stuff, maybe try to work toward something that would actually happen?
Ayden Sullivan
we could make it happen if we can convince liberals to vote to kick jefferson out
Joseph Campbell
So you dont know shit gotcha. You dont know the complication of the amount of neglect California puts us through. You didnt provide an actual argument in your rebuttal, and deflected. Therefore making a fallacy.
Carson Bennett
All we need is a proposition for the counties involved to vote, and it forces itself through the Californian legislature to be voted on by Congress.
Grayson Price
Cant you come up with a better name for a state than Jefferson? Its so boring!
Nathan Howard
I've lived in California for over 30 years and this state of Jefferson shit has been around longer than that. It won't happen.
Blake Thompson
The only way is to have a unanimous vote throughout the state, won't happen, but you can dream. Okay, I'm wrong, but instead of doing it here why don't you go outside and test the waters see how wrong I am. Your wasting your time but you don't need me to tell you that. ps I live in Plumas, and if this did come to a vote I'd vote against it because it's dumb.
Anthony Hall
Exactly, we're old enough to know shit like this is a waste of time.
Mason Martinez
Ahh good old LARPers acting like they can change this state.
Like you tell people complaining about America, why dont you move away? To the south, or something - oh wait all those red states have terrible weather and infrastructure .. I guess suck it up or go away
Landon Cruz
>all this FUD but why?
Jace Brooks
Move away? Or try harder to get republicans voting?
You expect the whole rules to be changed so you can get something you want? Mama sheltered you too much, snowflake.
Blake Clark
There's nothing to FUD in the first place. Just because people are white doesn't mean they support your guy's futile antics.
Juan James
Yes, go outside. You mean the outside that is neglected by California bending over to the cities? You mean the outside where we would have thriving mineral and logging industries if it werent for Californias restrictive laws? You mean the outside that holds 85% of Californias water, and yet we have almost no control over it? Been there done that.
Jeremiah Thomas
*Thousands of people go to Jefferson events everytime*
Get the fuck out of here shill
Daniel James
Hey do you son, I gave my two cents, just don't complain when they don't give you a a fair hearing.
Easton Peterson
>more than 20 counties have declarations >almost 1/3rd of the way to the funding goal >decades of buildup finally climaxing but yeah it's nothing everyone stay inside and do nothing because nothing ever happens
Brayden Rodriguez
Or maybe you could provide an argument.
Isaac Martinez
>thousands of people sign petitions >thousands of people go to conventions >thousands of people go to sports games >thousands of people protest trump
and your point is? sorry buddy, i'm not a shill because i'm calling you fucking retarded - you're just retarded, how about whining about the gubment you MOVE AWAY?
Blake Carter
They already have my boy.
Nathaniel Barnes
All talk of dividing California is propaganda to make the state weaker as a whole.
Do not buy into it.
Eli Clark
>commiefornia being weaker is bad
Angel Morgan
>Assuming less power for California is in any way shape or form is a bad thing.
Joshua Thompson
heres a logical one for ya partner
1.You seem dissatisfied with the state of California 2.You live in California 3.There are other states you wish California would be modeled after 4.It takes a lot less effort to move to a different state than change a whole state's government, which isn't even a guarantee -------- 5. There fore moving to a state you like better than California is easier (requires less effort and luck) than trying to change California's government is a better way to not have to deal with the states government
ofcourse, you could always whine online instead
Jose Brooks
You know the point made. Refusing to acknowledge the points are your problems to deal with.
Henry Gutierrez
we can't afford to let liberals own the entire continental west coast
we need jefferson. it's not just a personal preference user
John Hernandez
>Still not actually trying to support your argument from earlier. I can keep repeating my points, but that would be redundant. Let me put it in terms you will understand.
California abuses the rural populace. The rural populace wants to form their own state. Hell the legal proceedings are already taking place.
Joshua James
Hell yes.
Joshua Cook
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Joseph Baker
This needs to happen. Don’t let it slide!
Benjamin Collins
then we should break up texas too to be fair right?
Benjamin Robinson
Texas has only 36 electoral votes so no
Samuel Thomas
why would i want to be fair?
Landon Sanchez
The Bay Area is righful Jeffersonian clay. Purge commies and don't stop purging until you liberate Franklin Arms and the right wing militia in Morgan Hill.
Dominic Martinez
Come and take it, Bolshevik rat.
Carter Jenkins
then why should we break up california?
Lincoln Williams
Come and take it, Fascist pig.
Easton Jenkins
>Fascist pig Now I know why you dont understand the economic situation we're in. You're a communist! How silly of me to get into an actual debate with a communist of all people!
Levi Anderson
Why do leftists say "fascist" then they mean to say "genocidal"? Did Mussolini kill 6 million Jews as well? inb4 calling me a fascist when I am neither of those things.
Gavin Martin
*when they mean to say
Christopher White
I support the fuck out of this, especially since it's a fear of mine that TX will go blue in the future due to Trump potentially giving amnesty to border hoppers
Jackson Howard
Under 8 years of Trump, anything is possible you fucking commie stooge. We're taking this whole country back, Jefferson is just one step in our final solution.
Ethan Barnes
so you can have the state all to yourself
can you imagine how much California could get done without all these red counties getting people in the state government?
plus, jefferson isn't that populous or wealthy. you'd barely be losing anything, and the benefits are huge.
Adrian Walker
its called commiefornia for a reason son
Brandon Johnson
>says fascist >immediately a communist
you guys are sure defensive and assumptive
Luke Jenkins
I'll bet your a special kind of leftist that defines himself so loosely to avoid being labeled a communist
I have a useful test to determine whether or not a person is a leftie or a communist. I chuck you out of a helicopter and if you hit terminal velocity before you hit the ground, you're a communist.
Easton Wilson
If that was today there would be media outlets fucking them over because of that flag.
Adrian Bennett
This is your daily reminder that if California gets broken up you have a Democratic Senate
Asher White
Thats incorrect. California has 2 senators now. If Jefferson leaves that gives the Republicans 2 senators and doesnt add any to the democrats.
Matthew Collins
>says leftist >assume I'm calling you a communist
Carson Rodriguez
Wow so edgy. Can you stop being a faggot? Teenagers ruin everything I swear.
Jacob Wood
So what can I do as an out of state resident to support your movement?
Xavier Jones
I can smell the stench of your freshman dorm through my monitor, faggot.
Robert Richardson
District 2 wants in on Jefferson. Governor Walden when?
Ryan Nguyen
Humboldt here, fuck california
Ian Campbell
Welcome to the party.
Jackson Anderson
Go to the official website and donate through there, it is shown in the OP.
