Read Hillary Clinton's interview on the election. This is real fucking talk, no dumb fucking Jew-did-everything shit, this is the real deal. Read the fucking interview and contemplate it. We're losing our democracy to money.
>the NSA is watching everyone >the goverment controls the media >the elections are rigged, claims the president >our right to privacy is gone >habreas corpus is gone >the government is corrupt
Someone, or something is brainwashing us all into fascism and taking away our rights.
America is a constitutional republic, not a democracy.
Justin Perry
That's not the fucking point. Someone is pushing fascism on everyone in an attempt to make themselves richer.
It won't be either.
Logan Smith
This thread will get zero attention because they don't want anyone to see it.
Robert Gutierrez
this either the definition of fascism has changed or you're just a weak LARPer.
Owen Martin
What do you define as a constitutional republic.
Having a small group of people of non-elected decide policy? That's not a republic, that's an oligarchy.
Evan Parker
>america >fascism I wish. "Totalitarianism" is probably what you mean, and not the good kind, either. I agree that an armed revolution is the only way to drain the swamp.
Ayden Phillips
... all of this stuff is like twenty years old. Hillary and NPR are only mentioning it because they lost and they have nothing credible to say having denied it all up to this point.
Carson Brown
Yeah exactly.
Logan Carter
it's been an empire for 60 years, you're just realising it now?
Ethan Jones
There is no constitutional mechanism to re-do the 2016 election, so it does not matter what she says.
Robert Fisher
>revolution
I have my hands full raising tax dollars for my employer .
4 years here.
Zachary Garcia
Democracy is shit. Glad we were never one. Hillary lost, thank god. Glad she is around and bitching though. Makes all women politicians looks like whiny bitches.
Nicholas Davis
It's been kicking into overdrive since about 2003. I still think the same people that decided foreign policy during the Bush administration are still in power.
Look at it realisticlly.
We've been involved in a war since 2004 that nobody in the entire country has wanted, and we've still been at war since then despite every political change over the past 20 years.
Someone is calling the shots and deciding what goes on in Washington despite anything democratic.
Gabriel Fisher
Awesome. We need a dictatorship to right this country anyway. It's about god damned time.
Adam Jackson
>We're becoming an empire. Sorry user. I did what I could short of spilling blood. We were Empire when we went into Korea in the '50s, then Iran 1954, Vietnam, Iraq, Libya. And how do Empires end young user? Very poorly. Look around you.
Dominic Bailey
We're already in the cyberpunk age, we just need to take the final step where megacorporations run the world. Amazon and Walmart will have their own private armies.
Dominic Stewart
So you're willing to take away our rights?
Hope I don't meet you on the street.
Michael Fisher
>America is a constitutional republic It was at one time. Our elected officials have been violating that for decades. Probably since the '50s.
Luke Sanders
This.. It never was a democracy.
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Eli Lopez
If you're a communist/liberal/progressive traitor, then yes, you shouldn't have any rights.
Treason isn't protected by muh constitution.
Owen Wright
>believing anything that cunt says Go away memeflag.
Brandon Jackson
We need a strong leader desu, don't believe the libertarian meme.
Isaac Campbell
Nah, you are a federal republic at most.
The american empire only exist in the heads of your leadership, that's why they chimp out every time someone tells them no.
Jaxon Rogers
Yeah, me too. I'd hate to see some harmless vape enthusiast like you get fucking beaten to death with his own dildo.
Nicholas Kelly
>I agree that an armed revolution is the only way to drain the swamp You dimwits would be astroturfed by Nike and Gatorade within a week.
Austin Nguyen
I see it. And I don't agree with your take on "pushing fascism". Things to me look like "pushing socialism". Either way it's a "collectivist ideology"....right?
Alexander Martin
>harmless vape enthusiast I lost my shit. Thanks for giggle.
Anthony Martinez
> The United States is no longer going to be a democracy soon. Good. Let's stop being a bunch of faggots obsessed with muh checks and balances and let's start fucking up states that defy federal law.
Camden Wright
>Having a small group of people of non-elected decide policy? That's not a republic, that's an oligarchy. Only because the people let them. When they come for the guns...you know it's time.
Ayden King
>all these meme flags whining about the US
Adrian Hughes
... wait, we're a democracy? I thought that shit ended a long time ago with the rise of corporations
Isaac Morales
Why would anyone read or even listen to anything coming from this pathetic two-time loser? She is truly the epitome of a useless, unaccomplished life wasted
Leo Walker
winrar
Also we've pretty much always been an empire.
Hunter Kelly
Nah.
Lincoln Hall
I think he is a relatively young user. >We've been involved in a war since 2004 that nobody in the entire country has wanted Remember Korea? When we overthrew Iran in 1954 (wonder why they hate us?). Vietnam?
James Foster
DOWN WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT
I DONT BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY
JUNTA
JUNTA
JUNTA
JUNTA
JUNTA
Jacob Diaz
>longer going to be a democracy soon >a democracy
It's a Constitutional Republic, you faggot.
Jacob Reyes
>Whaaaa! >That's not the point!
You don't even know the type of government we have, why should anyone take advise from you?
Sebastian Cruz
March on Rome, American version when?
Tyler Thompson
Good. We only have about 30 years to become a dictatorship or power is transferred to minorities
Evan Cox
You. Are. A. Fucking. Imbecile.
You are also stupid and worthless.
Also you.
Legit, how is anyone this fucking dumb?
Easton Moore
>We need a dictatorship to right this country anyway. Dictatorships, and all collectivist ideologies suck.
Aaron Garcia
>The United States is no longer going to be a democracy soon Democracy has always been a scam >We're becoming an empire. >Implying we have not been one since 1945
Eli King
Yes studying Caesar lately, too many correlations to the fall of the republic.
WHO AMONG YOU WILL COME OUT ON TOP?
Benjamin Lopez
diverse countries need powerful governments to hold them together
Aiden Rodriguez
Because "democracy" has worked out just so swell for the West, amirite, goyim?
Isaiah Martin
>You. Are. A. Fucking. Imbecile. Ohhh, let me guess what comes next! >IT. WAS. HER. TURN!
Jayden Allen
Bro. Go back to Berkeley we don't need you're faggot ass in this board. You're incapable of making a coherent statement. Just go back. You have to go.
Ian Wood
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Benjamin Edwards
This. Multiethnic societies need authoritarianism to function.
Easton Stewart
What does history say? How long? When? Maybe when pic related?
Matthew Scott
We've been an empire. We inherited it from the British. Look at our 80+ foreign bases.
What is important is that we hang onto our bill of rights. Globalists don't want anyone to be free.
Connor Morgan
We are a republic, wtf are you on about?
Eli Moore
>bill of rights exactly, they'll talk about a constitution all day but no one ever brings this up
Anthony White
republicanism is a form of democracy
Brayden Parker
>We are a republic No, we are a representative democracy. Republic just means that government is "part of the public" and government roles are not inherited. We are a republic, but it is not our system of government.
Jaxon Edwards
United States was never a democracy. It is a Republic which is slowly getting killed by socialist policies.
Brody Nelson
We are not a straight up democracy. And the people can still own firearms, which is a benchmark. When the government confiscates the arms, historically that's a omen of thing to come.
Jack Green
>We are not a straight up democracy. We are a representative democracy.
Ayden Miller
>Hillary speaks about government being corrupt and controlling the media and our right to privacy etc
Am I reading this right? Hilary? What fucking timeline is this?
Xavier Rodriguez
I love democracy, it means majority rules, which means I can re-enslave niggers one day.
Lincoln Evans
Cycles. We are living in that time frame of great changes.
Noah Fisher
>I made a thread that people don't like and it's not getting the attention I want >I bet the CIA is responsible for this
Dominic Mitchell
Fuck democracy. We're a fucking Republic. Democracy is what happened to Pelosi tonight
Zachary Butler
Republic means we elect Representatives to handle and debate issues for the common good of the citizens of said Republic.
Hudson Nguyen
Or niggers can enslave you.
Jeremiah Miller
we need snake plisken to set off the emp
Adam Moore
No it doesn't. Google what a republic is.
Tyler Sanders
>democracy Kid, I got news for you...
Blake Bell
This
After WW2, the US changed from Republic to Empire, with the facade of representation of the people.
To be fair, it's a fairly benevolent Empire unless you get in the way of its petrodollar.
Joshua Price
Nazi's didn't take guns, in fact they did the opposite and made it easier to own them.
Fuck libertarians on this board are retarded. All these retarded r/donald faggots
Jayden Rivera
If we compare the United States to Rome, I'd say the United States is around where Rome was in 130BC. Economic problems, military problems, class and racial tension, demagogues using these problems to their advantage. That went on in Rome for nearly 50 years before Sulla did something the Roman Republicans at the time thought unthinkable; took power by force.
Then within just a couple generations there were several civil wars until after about a hundred years there were no more republicans left with the will to fight. The same will probably happen in America. Someone will eventually come to power _completely_ outside the legal constructs and that will open the floodgate for others to do the same.
America will probably be quite something during its imperial age. Although you have to assume that Canada will be annexed pretty much on day one.
Evan Hill
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Chase Torres
was the Roman republic a republic?
Tyler Nguyen
Our society is already rotting. Position are no longer going to the most qualified, but the most """diverse""" in all aspects of society. Our foreign influence is declining as evident with Korea and the Middle East. Our country is moving more and more to the left. China will surpass us in the next 30-40 years as the top hegemon. America will not fall like Rome, but rather degenerate into insignificane.
Easton Walker
You're not the only person who realizes something is REALLY fucked up with political discourse in this country. It appears false-flagging is now the norm for the left and right and media is intentionally dividing people by race and pied pipers.
This forum is the most subversive place on the internet: making people racists in order to throw them off the cliff: useful idiots.
You will notice that it is almost impossible to discuss politics without being ridiculed.
Noah Scott
>was the Roman republic a republic? >>> > Anonymous (ID: 1h9IDY7u) 09/18/17(Mon)22:17:37 No.142056382 ▶ > >Our society is already rotting. Position are no longer going to the most qualified, but the most """diverse""" in all aspects of society. Our foreign influence is declining as evident with Korea and the Middle East. Our country is moving more and more to the left. China will surpass us in the next 30-40 years as the top hegemon. America will not fall like Rome, but rather degenerate into insignificane. Republic does not have to be a democracy. A republic is anything that does not have inherited titles.
Eli Lopez
We are a representative republic. Back to Berkley Jose.
Jose Diaz
>We're becoming an empire. >becoming
libertarians are so cute.
Nolan Richardson
>american flag >this country >the left Who dat?
Jaxon Allen
>So the last time we talked, an excerpt of our interview went viral, and we'd spent a few minutes earlier on the air talking about as secretary of state you were a strong LGBTQ rights advocate, saying, "Gay rights are human rights. Human rights are gay rights."
Did it ever occur to anyone in your country that perhaps the Iranian government isn't actually killing fags? They might just be killing off their political opponents and calling them fags while doing so?
Jacob Cook
The USA has been an exercise in political hegelian struggle between its belief in empire and isolationist small-government democracy since Hamilton and Jefferson. The Jeffersonians have been losing slowly ever since the nation's establishment. The 20th century was where it became irreversible however. Once the Federal Reserve, the income tax, and the intervention of WW1 occurred, we solidified our path towards an ever more oligarchic empire.
There's no going back.
Jack Scott
USA has never been a direct democracy.
Camden Jones
>this forum >forum
Jonathan Morris
>>I think he is a relatively young user.
Look at all of his post be the stupid shit he says. I wouldn't be surprised if he's twelve.
Brody Davis
>Nazi's didn't take guns, in fact they did the opposite and made it easier to own them. They took the guns from the Jews.
David Powell
>America will not fall like Rome, but rather degenerate into insignificane. Rome disintegrated into insignificance centuries after it stopped being a republic.
I don't believe America is anywhere near that point, though. If you look at the potential for growth in North America it's miles ahead of Europe or China. I believe America's best days are still ahead of it, although there will surely be some dark days ahead in the not too distant future.
Connor Price
Do you think they'll confiscate guns? I thought I later Rome the people couldn't own swords?
Jacob Martin
Thats how Rome "fell" as well the Germans didn't destroy Rome they broke pieces off for themselves. Then The Muslims came lol History always a shadow of itself kinda cozy.
William Brown
>mfw Hamilton was right and we should have made Washington into a king
Leo Evans
Strong arguments Julio...almost too strong.
Parker Walker
So? I'm not seeing the problem
Henry Wood
>implying we have had democracy at all since Jews killed Kennedy
Henry Morris
>board. >this changes everything
Henry Hernandez
Aayyy I liked Genocyber
Ayden Wright
>the political chosen one failed to win the election she was promised, after being caught trying to rig it >user, THEY'RE RIGGING OUR ELECTIONS! THE PRESIDENTS ARE CHOSEN! >ORGANIZE THE REVOLUTION!
t. fbi
Gabriel White
Yep. If we had established monarchy early, the money oligarchs would not have been able to gain control.