>no money
>no poverty
>no borders
>no religion
>no wars
we will have warp drive and replicators within 10 years and we will need to create a one world government before we set out to find the ayys. i believe the most qualified person to lead us is justin trudeau. his commitment to advancing humanity is self evident
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we need to model our society after lord of the rings
>horse armor
>wizards
>cave trolls
>medieval shit
>nobody calling me a retard for wearing elf ears
> no borders
...k.....
If i lived in star trek i'd kidnap the body of Data's daughter and program it to be my anal waifu
you may get your chance but you won't need to kidnap her. AI and quantum computers will give us sentient androids soon enough
The utopia you see in the show is because of replicators.
They a are a post-scarcity society. Do you shills even try anymore?
>no religion
we will have replicators in 10 years. we can already print pizza
I don't think you understand what the replicator is. It reorganizes matter. It can turn a rock into pizza, atmosphere into shoes, or pizza into a house.
We are nowhere near this level of technology.
That begs the question, what is in the replicator tanks?
ii understand what they are and i'm confident AI will help solve the riddle of matter reorganization
How?
> Doesnt watch Ancient Aliens
Pfft, no, we're beyond that technology.
pure hydrogen? used to make all elements
But I want Data to chase me shouting
"Sir what is your intention with my daughter's positronic rectum"
Duh, "Love".
I'll just leave this here
Not possible with limited resources
You think the chinese for example will dismantle their entire country, economy and society for some western science fictions idea of utopia?
Or Israel? Or Saudi Arabia?
Humanity has always been a bunch of tribes competing over resources. The only way this will change is if there is one tribe left. And it wont be whites at this rate.
gd every commie is a treky.
we dont have infinite resources you mongoloids.
Even a nationalist should get behind the idea. If we can get ftl travel, we can get off this rock and you fucksters don't have to be nationalist anymore, you can be planetists. And THEN we can have that big social experiment you've all be dieing for.
Makes sense. I wonder how much hydrogen they'd go through in a week.
Why base reality on fiction?
Star Trek's utopia works because Khan killed all the subhumans during the 1990s.
>implying we will ever have ftl travel when people can say "space is a waste of money when africans are starving"
>implying any ftl and planetary travel wont have government mandated diversity and liberalism
The first person on Mars WILL be a black woman I guarantee it. At least a woman. It wont be a man even if there are 100 men more qualified.
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>Modeling your society off of a commie Sci Fi series.
>Not modeling it off of the Superior Warhammer series
>AI and quantum computers will give us sentient androids soon enough
you should go "converse" with the latest and greatest chatbots out there
become disillusioned
not in your lifetime pal
>Obvious b8 thread
Will reply in an attempt to redpill newfags who don't know better.
Star Trek:
>No money
Incorrect. Gold pressed latinum and other material goods are traded frequently.
>No poverty
Incorrect. If currency exists so will poverty. The Bajorans are a prime example of this.
>No borders
Incorrect. Various species and political powers have well defined and often disputed borders with one another.
>No religion
Incorrect. Many, such as the Klingons, still adhere to their religious practices.
>No wars
Incorrect. Star Trek is full of factions fighting one another. Additionally war is constantly threatened and arguably more so than it is in the modern age we live in.
The basic idea of Star Trek is post scarcity but not everything is easily made. Complex alloys and medicines are still difficult to produce. Also time itself is still a scarce resource in Star Trek which makes your idealistic model ineffective even under it's own conditions. Star Trek is a comforting ideal but it is not one that is based on reality.
>explaining anal sex to Data
What an Alpha Stud.
Nice bait
>no money
>no poverty
Both of these are addressed by the fact that Star Trek (on Earth at least) takes place in a post-scarcity society, meaning that technology has progressed to the point that the cost of resources and providing of food is so minimal that money doesn't even need to exit. Unless you know of a way to progress technology to that point, you're a complete fucking idiot for making such a statement. This is also why the argument that "Star Trek is a communist/socialist society" is just wrong. Economic ideas don't really matter when everything can be provided at essentially no cost.
>no borders
>no religion
>no wars
There are borders between all of the empires. There are different religions in each of the empires. There are wars in every single series. You should at least watch the fucking show before making this pointless bait thread you absolute faggot.
The replicators used stupid amounts of energy. A sandwich and milkshake would require 4.5x10^17 joules, over twice as much energy as the largest ever man made explosion, the Tsar Bomb.
i said our society, not the rest of the galaxy. we have to help ourselves first
>no religion
>posts a pic of a guy who nearly gets killed to get the girl next to him into klingon heaven
Thanks for posting this so I don't have to type it out. Some people should stick to star wars. It's much more easily digestible and has clearly defined good and evil sides so you know who to root for.
fucking so much this
Has OP ever watched Star Trek?
I love how utterly bullshit the Star Trek map is.
The only bit that makes any sense is the Alpha quadrant.
A replicator is just half a transporter m8, it turns energy into matter
No Muslims in Star Trek.
Even so the idea of a one world government is a bad one. Not all cultures will wish to follow the same rules, therefore your only choice to pacify them is through force. The Muslims learned this the hard way when they invaded India so very long ago, they could not separate Hinduism from the Indian people which made conversion impossible and genocide the only way to gain territory. In order to make your utopia you will need to commit to horrors the likes of which not even Goebbles could conjure in his wildest dreams.
You also have the problem of time. Time will still be a finite resource and it will prevent the removal of money and war. Unless you make time itself meaningless people will simply use it as currency in place of FIAT.
You also make the assumption that humans are, at their core, good. But history has shown this is not the case. Humans are fearful, greedy, and ruthless bastards and our behavior is often without logic or reason. You will not be able to abolish religion because of this. People need a faith of some kind to get them through the dark times and your idealistic drivel is not enough to satisfy it.
>infinite resources you mongoloids
We're already a substantially post-scarcity society. We easily produce enough to feed, shelter, educate and provide basic services to everyone in our society, and with some changes to make sure we farm sustainably and with the success of wind and solar power, we're scaling these production technologies out to everyone on the planet.
We can even provide people with cars, phones, and computers. I mean look, per-capita GDP is $55k/year in the US, $45k in the UK, $40k in Germany. That's easily enough to pay for a person's material needs. I don't know where this scarcity meme is coming from, aside from """conservatives""" who want to make excuses for hoarding wealth and creating artificial scarcity to maintain their system of wage-slavery.
Isn't the new Star Trek going to have a muslim crew member?
But I'm rich AF and its Niiiiiiiiiice.
About a trillionth of a sun, located conveniently throughout the galaxy.
>Star Trek's utopia works because the Vulcans came and gave the humans a common enemy
FTFY
>I love how utterly bullshit the Star Trek map is.
???
ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!
Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
found the ferengi
even then money still exists, they trade in gold pressed latinum. Earth is only a paradise because they learned how to turn energy into matter (it's a metaphor for an inverse atomic bomb if you will)
The area around the Federation-Romulans-Klingons makes sense. But after that it's like "Fuck it. Draw some big ass empires because reasons."
again this, 99% of star trek takes place in the alpha quadrant. even with warp drive the distances between borg space and earth are effectively non traversable.
it saddens me to know how little Sup Forums knows about Roddenberry's wet dream
The only reason society in Star Trek became the way it did was due to the fucking disaster of WW3. Everything was already broken and had to be started all over, of course a new one world government could come from it.
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society was still in tatters long after that. it was only until first contact with the vulcans when Zephram Cochrane made the first warp jump that we all got our collective shit together
>the idea of a one world government is a bad one
Un-American. The implicit foreign policy of this country aims to help the world progress until it can peacefully and consentually come together in a "united states of Earf". It'll take a few centuries, but we already have a lot of international laws and legal frameworks. It's not like you need to completely agree with people to share a bureaucracy, what the fuck?
>Time will still be a finite resource and it will prevent the removal of money and war.
Alright, this is just "wishful thinking: the post", except you're such a sad sack that you're making shitty excuses for why we can't get rid of war. Seriously reconsider yourself, senpai
>You also make the assumption that humans are, at their core, good
I make no such assumption, I merely think that cooperation can produce win-win outcomes and if enough people understand this they can mandate cooperation, just like in any functioning society.
Exactly, things have to seriously degrade badly (last time I checked I can go to the local butchers without being murdered by a eugenic soldier) for us to form such a world.
it's true, i believe people are inherently good. removing the money equation will negate most of the rules that would hinder a single government. it would stop the bulk of reasons to wage war as well
LETS BASE OUR GOVERNMENT ON A FICTIONAL TV SHOW
>no money
They trade in latinum.
>no poverty
Yes there is. Do you think those guys all alone way out on some barren planet's distant mining colony all went out there with no women or booze for fun?
>no borders
They simply have space borders. They even have "demilitarized zones" and "neutral zones".
>no religion
Wrong again. Your picture is even from Deep Space Nine how do you not know this?
>no wars
You gotta be kidding. The Dominion War is a major plot point of Deep Space Nine for multiple seasons.
you niggers have completely missed the point of star trek. The recurring theme has always been that even with all that technology, humans are still just clothed apes whose only chance for survival is to come to terms with that fact and make a conscious decision to change what doesn't work and keep what does. To be constantly improving in every way.
Starship troopers is better
>ww3
>world gets rekt
>everything's fucked
>total anarchy and no morality
>vets take charge
>form Federation
>conquer the stars
Money isn't the issue, the issue are national elites and corporations that are trying to open markets and dominate each other.
Getting the lower and middle classes into power is the main thing, because these are the people who just want to cooperate and live life, rather than dominate.
>I believe people are inherently good
There's your first mistake.
Niggers aren't allowed in space after the Missing Moon Rock controversy.
A white man stands on the surface of an alien planet and ponders the destiny of the species.
A nigger just wonders if he can smoke exoliths without getting caught
cart before the horse
there's no money or poverty in the next generation because there are no needs or scarce materials that people need for day to day life.
in order to achieve this today you would need to kill everyone darker than a brown paper bag on the planet+the arabs+the communist asians
do that, and there would be no scarcity, and thus no need for money.
>>commie scifi
>>commie
gene hated the communists. the whole idea behind the klingon empire in ToS was to point out the logical failings of the movement. also to underhandedly call the chinese smelly.
what are we currently scarce on? 60 million tons of produce is thrown away in america alone each year
nerds.
They have to believe in scarcity or they'll have to admit the status quo is fucked up, and they don't want to do that because that's how "conservatives" are these days.
there's 7 billion people on the planet and at least 4 billion not working.
even if we have the food, we still need the logistic capacity to deliver it to them because they're incapable and unwilling to obtain it themselves.
america has spent billions each year trying to feed nig nogs, but it still doesnt work, one will seize our means to deliver, and use it as a force to subdue the others.
same thing with india, we spend a shit load vaccinating them against polio, but the one that isnt vaccinated walks miles through shit, and will almost definitely get it.
of that 7 billion, only 1.3 billion have even had the capacity to think outside their borders or the well being of others. if we got them the means of production, they would simply use that production to try and kill eachother, or even attack us.
the current resource we are lacking is labor, it wont be an issue 200 or 300 years in the future, but it's a big deal now.
i don't know what the hiring scene is like in your area, but around here most businesses will give you money to get your friends to apply.
>t. fucking LEAF on vacation
>we need to model our society after star trek
sure bring us back to monarchy
>every liberal thinks they're working toward that
they're really working toward pic-related
Also OP's one of those open borders Jews.
They want world domination, as usual.
They fucking literally think they're god's walking the Earth kek.
Can't wait until I can start killing them.
Id pay money to do that. Given what we did to Tay, we'd have Data full 1488 in no time.