Why do Americans not understand that we lost in Vietnam?

Why do Americans not understand that we lost in Vietnam?

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looks like you won this battle

Who cares?

most people do?

there was no way to win, the people were against us

The French lost first

are we talking about the french...? no

is canned tuna from vietnam safe?

Because most Americans aren't aware that USA was stepping into footsteps of France. France lost, so why would it be different for Uncle Sam?
This is why I recommend the new Vietnam War documentary by Ken Burns. This issue is touched on more deeply than any documentary before it. It's free on PBS.

Because the tag on my shirt says we won

The VC's kids are making my shoes. But I'm sure it's the PEOPLE who own the sweatshop.

AHAHAHAHAHA

*following in France's footsteps

>dead amerisharts.jpg
That's a picture from the My Lai massacre you fucking brain dead retard. That's a pile of dead Vietnamese.

You lost to this while we lost to this (I aint gonna post the image but you know what I mean)

Ken Burns is a lefty faggot

Vietnam was just a testing ground and we murked as many of you charlies as we wanted before we left like gentlemen because we didn't wanna genocide your whole race as it wouldn't be fair

Basically you got the long hard dick of American imperialism all up in your country, came multiple bucketloads all over your country's face, treated your country like a used whore and and you couldn't do shit about it, slope

Because America has declared war since World War 2 so it is impossible that we lost.

We basically have won every battle we have participated in since WW2.

Not our fault our retarded government chooses to try and help people that don't want to be helped.

Has not declared*

The damage the Vietnam War caused on the American psyche is still great, I see.

Mandela effect: The vietnam war did not last 20 years as stated. It was only 7.

>Not our fault

Well we live in a republic, so yeah it really is.

It is the fault of hundreds of retarded people concentrated in a few key areas that are specifically kept super retarded. You're probably one of them.

Killed a shit ton of gooks.

We could have nuked you, but our people didn't like the idea.

Remember, you didn't save yourselves, hippies and weed did.

Easy there Dr. Manhattan.

Yeah it damaged us so much we did the same thing pretty much everywhere else and kept on remaining capitalist ya fucking zipperhead while your failed commie experiment country turned more and more tricks to appease us so China doesn't come in for a second helping of tight Vietcong boipucci

Ken Burns documentary is anti-american horse shit wrapped up with a PBS bow on top.

Thanks for the help then, hippie.

>When you think you won but finally have to abandon communism years later and acquiesce to the country you claimed victory over

>hippies and weed saved the vietnamese
Nope, it'd never have happened without the propaganda tool that is TV (aka mass communication) that pushed these marxist cancers upon the boomer generation.

If you think about every newly implemented method of mass communication from the printing press (gnosticism) to radio (promoting the world wars) to TV (Look how cool Marxism is kid) to the internet (Feminism and Atheism) - every time it falls into the hands of the jew and they level it as a weapon upon the goy to destroy us.

>dead_amerisharts.jpg
>clearly a bunch of gooks

But we beat that thing, and you also lost to the thing we 'lost' to.

> more tricks to appease us
Literally the other way around.

Well, go read a book then. It's pretty indisputable that USA made almost exact same mistakes already made by France in Vietnam.

Because you suck at ground combat 1 on 1
youtube.com/watch?v=hRJFvtvTGEk

We lost?

Vietnam didn't fall to the commies because of a weakness in the American military. Vietnam fell because of a weakness in American (and western) politics. Western politicians haven't had the balls to wage a proper war in generations. That's why the Taliban's going to be back in control of Afghanistan within a decade and why Iraq will be a theocracy within two decades.

>thinking mckikeolds has any country loyalty

>'lost'
That's a funny way of writing 'were betrayed by a communist 5th column'

It was the moment republiturds ruined everything. Let it be known that the right wing has been actively seeking to destroy this nation through foreign intervention and mass immigration.

>lost
We quit and left. There's a big difference.

Correct

If you're the West, you have to realize your wars are winnable but you're going to have to kill a LOT of """"innocent"""" people, until the enemy doesn't exist or capitulates.

If you're not prepared to do that, don't have a war

That is why you rarely see any battle footage outside of liveleak. The television broadcast Vietnam into people's houses who had never witnessed war before. Little johnny watched napalm cooking up entire villages while he ate his dinner with his family. Now we can watch A10s strafe snackbars on YouTube.

In all seriousness Trump is really the strongest leader in the West right now, so conflicts with the Taliban in the Middle East could be prevented.

Vietnam, wtf are you talking about?
We perfectly understand that we lost OP.
Maybe your liberal history professor has been filling your head up with one too many stories of their glory-days fighting the man on behalf of the poor misunderstood angelic black people.

If Muhammad Ali went he would've been able to punch all the Vietcong to death

You fought in Vietnam so you didn't have to in West Germany.

It's clear that the Soviets were amazed by American toughness and this was enough to paralyze them while they lasted.

South Vietnam lost. We were not there when they lost so we did not lose.

We didn't militarily. Just the will. Should've engaged with China in Korea part 2. Thankfully, Vietnam repelled China's attempt to make it it's puppet and ended Pol Pot, so all's well that ends well.

>Just under 60K Americans dead.
>600K to 1.1 million Commies dead.
Yeah, we may not have "won", but we damn sure didn't lose.

>55k to 3 mil dead
Yeah man, we got stomped

We didn't lose. The problem though is that we didn't win either. We've been fighting wars without the intention of winning and that's messed up.

you werent there, cus you left, cus you were gettig buttfucked?

Also, yeah they still mad VCbro

We are taught that 'occupations' are good, and necessary. We lost Iraq too, but we go the resources and cash they wanted......

I was watching the Ken Burns doc about it and it honestly sounded like the Commies were just Buddhist nationalists under a commie flag.
Of course it's a PBS joint so the bias was obvious, America should've never got involved in the first place.

>60k dead US.
>1 mil dead gooks
>lost

Not only do Americans not understand that rage quitting and failing all objectives is the same as losing, but they also don't underatand the concept of a Civil War.

>made almost exact same mistakes already made by France in Vietnam.
We never had a Dien Bien Phu

You didn't lose Vietnam. Democrats threw it away. Stop demoralizing

are you legally retarded?

We had been out of Vietnam for two years before the fall of Saigon

>lose war
>b-b-but muh k/d ratio
Pathetic, I bet you didn't count ARVN, Korean, Austalian, Kiwis, Filipino,... casualties in the war, American didn't fight alone, they prefered letting their puppet fight for them.

We lost the war at home not in the field. Without the hippies and everything else going on we would have left Vietnam a pile of ash.

We made a peace deal with north and evacuated earlier. They attacked as soon as most were out, and overwhelmed the hand-held baby forces of the south Vietnamese. You protect someone too much they can't fight for themselves sometimes.

asians breed like rabbits, giving up 60k soldier lives, while country suffers political, economic and social problems, not to mention drug epidemic, is a win in what respect?

>their puppet fight for them.
It wasnt even our damn country

You lost at home and in the field

>without the hippie

Just look the movie "Born on 4th july" faggot

Why do Vietnamese not understand Vietnamese lost the Vietnam war, because you need to count the south Vietnamese.

because the American inferiority complex can't cope with the fact that the US has never won a war on their own (without a lot of outside help)

Are they ok?

We need to new combat experienced officers to replace retiring WWII vets
Also test helicopter tactics

Lol

Well and truly lost the fight at home and through to this present day though, one hell of a defeat

>says the guy with the meme flag
We have never actually been defeated on the battlefield and had to give up anything

If the country you are fighting hates you, and the country you're defending hates you, and your own country hates you... ever think you were in the wrong to begin with? You useless tool.

In a way, the Government did win. Following retreat from Vietnam, conflicts emerged between Vietnam and China (and Cambodia but that is less important) which increasingly fractured the Communist blocs, as the Soviets supported Vietnam. The war was timed well and succeeded - even today the Vietnamese hate China far more than the US or France. This was not the case with the Communist blocs during Korea, albeit slightly between Stalin and Tito, when they diverged on Greece.

This.

>there was no way to win,
>the people were against us
You can always exterminate them

we didn't, there was a treaty so the US withdrew then Nixon had to resign and since the one person the gooks were afraid of was out of office they figured the next guy was a pussy so they invaded again and we didnt go back. We won vietnam and didnt participate in vietnam pt2

you never had to fight anyone by yourself like a big boy either

only native americans but defeating an enemy who uses bows and stone knifes isn't really a challenge

Literally the only real way to win a war

Are you retarded? Can’t you see that small, naked child? Obviously US Special Forces. I swear...

>you never had to fight anyone by yourself
Who are the Spanish and the Mexicans?

who's vietnam's biggest trading partner

Military is the only thing usa is leading in the world. You are just on denial of being temporary leader, that will soon be replaced by Russia.

>user agrees with you
>call him a useless tool

You're beyond redemption, faggot

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Because we killed the shit out of those zipperheads like 40:1

LOL you guys can't project force for shit. No civilized country will ever fear you.

>replaced by russia

white people shot asians who were just living in a farming village and admitted they did it. every last man woman AND child

google "mai lai massacure"

Didn't Ho Chi Minh offer the US some type of unified government? It was pointless to fight him. Look at how China turned out. If Chiang won he would have been pro-Soviet instead of the thorn in the side Mao became.

The US is still the leader in soft, hard, and cultural power. We're slipping in soft power, but luckily it is to Europe.

China, all though the US is significant too..vietnamnews.vn/economy/251510/china-tops-list-of-viet-nam-trade-partners.html#Xu6R4HI9c99zAK6R.97

My sides weren't ready for this. Tone down the bantz grams.

There are cucks who give a shit about My Lai

The people are against your crooked politics, like attacking the democratically elected leaders, because they do not suck your dick. That how all the "islamic revolutions" where made in the first place.
People do not give a fuck about (you).

The Vietnam redpill:
youtube.com/watch?v=7hqYGHZCJwk&t=15s

Nixon had negotiated peace between North and South Vietnam, the situation was stable, and then he was ousted by (((Watergate))). The Democrats took Congress, defunded South Vietnam, and the North swept in.

(((Communist))) coup anyone? As if the Washington Post was any less Jewish and didn't love communism any less in Nixon's time as it does today.

lel, once people won't need gas from you, you'll become insignificant.

>ireland

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We did not lose IN Vietnam, we lost in the US, due to media propaganda paid for by leftists. Sound familiar?

Usa has no cultural power and all the soft power is just about funding the local extremists.
American hard power is rendered useless, after you openly founded ISIS. Taliban was pre-internet and you thought you can geg away with it once more. But no you can not.
Moreover you not only attack some middle easter shotholes, you are so desperate - you are attacking states in continental europe just to create problems for EU and Russia.

You have built the current shitflow corridor.

You have backed up soviet minority in ukraine against cultured urban majority of Russians. And the worst - you did it unintentionally. You just took poolack hate towards Russians as genuine social analysis.

The mighty burgerstan shilling for a third worlder buttfuckers, who originally started ww2, where the biggest force behind bolshevism and the first european state to willingly be ruled by invited arabs just so arabs would have better position to attack Rus.

How do you solve it? You invite european freemasons to guide your east-european politics.

Its like inviting don Corleone to advise you on your diet. His advices would be worthless and if he will take interest in your property, he will poison you.

60k dead Americans for nothing
1 million dead gooks for freedom

Gas in Russia is owned by anglo. So I can not reeally give less of a fuck about your gullible attempts to insult anyone here.

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