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Captain Izumi, whom no one hates, gets to inaugurate our thread.

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Trips confirm.

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gaaaaaay

Yes, and?

If anything, there isn't enough girl-on-girl action or romance in this franchise. Which is a crime given the abundance of hot girls with erect nipples in skintight suits.

There isn't enough forced /u/ shit either. Are you here to rectify that?

Not quite. In a way, they act opposite that they did with Jurgen. With Jurgen, he took the lead. With Theo, it's much the opposite, since they didn't have a chance before it was too late. But make no mistake, he's still the central figure in their game.

You also have to remember not only does Bea want Theo to join them for her own unstated reasons (i.e. seperate from her promise with Lise), but Theo could have been kicked out numerous times, let alone thrown back in prison for insubordination and other things he's responsible. Even at the end, the death of a teammate. And yet she tries to take Theo and influence him with her ideal.

Who /NVA/ here?
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Who would you rather make out with, Yuuko or Beato?

When you put it that way user, it's too hard to decide...

Probably Beato

Beatrix for handholding while doing it, Yuuko while doing a mating press.

I honestly can't see Yuuko as a woman, I respect her way too much to see her in a lewd or romantic way.

And that's why she'll continue to be depressed.

Maybe if she didn't have such a hateboner for Americans, she could find someone.

PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE

To be fair, America had a hateboner for her first.

so do you guys celebrate with the pride parades in Seattle or is it its own thing

>Oi, Gyorska
>What is it Schumer?
>...are we cucks?
>N-no, Gyorska, we're not. Now remember to kiss Ivan's shoes.

>saying your plan is shitty
>hate

Maybe if Yuuko knew how to take criticism, a lot of tragedies could have been avoided, yknow?

WAFFENBRÜDERSCHAFT

W-well, there's an exception for every rule isn't there?

I probably dislike Murrika as much as she and japs in general do.

The Americans in ML don't just "disagree", they kidnap someone you know, reprogram them, then send them out to murder you and everyone you love. ML America follows a hyper aggressive Dick Cheney-ish Machiavellian Neoconservitism (ML was released during the Bush Years).

You see it even in SM, where America was the one backing Beatrix and Axmann, or you could look at evil Jack Bauer.

Beatrix is way more damaged, and actually has the right idea about things. I can only devote a totality towards one person, so Beatrix it is.

>tfw they both kiss with their eyes open

Yes in Seattle
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But you see Beatrix as a woman when everyone around her is absolutely terrified of her.

I'm more of an Irisdina man. Assuming I knew how to pilot, I'd love to fight Beatrix though.

You want to stick a CIWS in her cockpit and twist?

Even if she is a secondary, Gretel will always be the main heroine of my heart

I don't see how effective putting a sea wizz in her cockpit would be.

Only after the brawl. I'm definitively not passing that damn fine piece of stasi meat. She could get me jailed and messed up if I refused either way.

Crashing with that knife in her should have instantly killed her. At least the LN made slighlty more sense where she was on the ground and disabled when Theo executed her.

Hopefully.

>implying that that attitude isn't exactly what is needed to keep the world war effort united and going on

Besides some gross exaggerations, outright falsehoods, and removing context in your points, yeah I suppose you're right.

Also, clearly you're still butthurt over the Dubya years. I don't see how aggressive foreign policy is purely a neoconservative view, nor unrelenting crusade against alien invaders Machiavellian, nor doing anything to keep the front united a policy directive soley of Dick Cheny.

As for backing Beatrix, I don't see how this is supposed to be a point against them of how 'evil' they are.

tl;dr it turns out Katiafags and Irisfags are also anti-American. Like no one saw that coming.

She's not even a secondary. She's a tertiary.

The only reason she's the 666th commissar is that she's literally the best pilot the Party, the commissariat has.

"On charges of cowardice, I sentence you to being my husbando"

I think that she is on the 666th because of her political knowledge/reliability rather than her piloting skill (or lack of it)

And that's how she meet Martin
Yes I know the meet back on high school

It is that too, but the thing is pretty much all the other commissars are even less skilled then her.

Fug user, that almost makes her sound really cute.

I wonder if her boytoy knows what evils she's done?

Putting a commissar on a TSF is a waste of resources, they should go behind the TSF in a Hind or even a Hip

ML America is not really that different from the actual thing we have in the real world, they caused a coup in guatemala all cause a fruit company went to the CIA and told them the guatemalan government were communists for example. Sure, it's just a bunch of hispanic sandniggers over there, but the point remains

The one thing I that's different is that they're still in that Cold War era mindset, where if you're not on the side of the states you're somehow a communist.

Fuck off with your political bullshit, either keep it in the topic of Muv Luv/Schwarzesmarken or take it to Sup Forums with all the jew haters

>fuck off with your political bullshit
What exactly were you expecting when you got into Muv-Luv?

>Fuck off with your political bullshit
He was talking about the game though, which is why I was going to reply but just deleted because it was about RL rather than Muv Luv universe. Oh, and you're also talking about political bullshit with that first part. And jews should indeed be banned from everywhere.

>all cause a fruit company went to the CIA and told them the guatemalan government were communists

Well besides the oversimplification, they weren't exactly wrong.

Also, not the other guy you're replying to, but how the hell are you going to make some politobullshit as fact, and then when you're called out on it, say "fuck off and take it to Sup Forums"? Hell, you did in your other reply JUST NOW, you brought it up again! Can you even fucking read?

He wasn't off topic. Also Muv Luv involves a lot of political stuff, so deal with it.

Man, I want more Takeru/Tsukuyomi porn, with Meiya and Yuuhi holding Mana down.

Ah, command helo?

Maybe could have worked, but would make fragging the commissar a hell of a lot easier than it is. Also, remember that commissars ARE part of the squadron, even if they are under seperate command. They are performing the mission too, so in Gretel's case, laserjagd. Just because Theo usually babysits her doesn't mean she's completely talentless.

Goddammit you're making me defend Gretel user. That is not right.

Also, gommies would never use Rhodie fireforce tactics, so command helos are a no go.

Here's your (You), I hope you're happy.

>yfw Theo's parents were Rhodesian

>leaving glorious Rhodesia for a communist shithole

Nah m8, I know it would be nice, but Theo's parents, whoever they are, are true and true Germans. A ton of their overall tribe, it's various clans are still alive, though saying well would maybe be an understatement.

From what we know, many of the clans are dysfunctional. The Hohensteins are one of the few who were doing well, and for all we know, it could only be that particular branch, not even the entire Hohenstein clan.

Yes, I think that helo's can hold a fight against a TSF since they can travel at a similar speed and manoeuvrability. Still if that the case Gretel would ride in the infantry compartment of the Hind or in the back of the Hip
She is not a bad pilot, she is average but been on an elite time she lags behind. I still think that a commissar on a TSF is a waste of a place that can be occupied by a better plot. This is not a rifle squad when everybody can shoot an AK, to pilot a TSF you need to pass an intensive course and few people manage to achieve that. If we are going by the conception that TSF are like planes

That makes zero sense, I mean sure, living under Mugabe was a shit, but going to East Germany is not a better option

>No joint South African/Rhodesian/Namibian/Botswanan/Mozambiqui/Angolan TSF squadron
>No Cheetah TSF
>No Ian Smith in a green and white fortified suit
>no conspiracies and politicos up the wazoo

Feels bad. Ian was a very skilled pilot too.

>South Africans and Rhodesians teaming up with niggers

0/10

It's not about being able to fight a TSF. Helos cannot take the same lateral and centrifugal stresses that a TSF can handle, nor take the punishment that TSFs can, and no most cannot travel the same speeds as the TSFs, especially when they are in full thruster mode, which for the 666th is very often. Add into that high speed NOE flight is extremely unforgiving, and essentially pilots who can do that are gonna get thrown into TSF squadrons anyways.

Also, there is no real "better pilots" out there, the 666th is already chronically undermanned when SM starts. Most of the TSF squadrons are actually. Hence why, for example, Katia was accepted in, things being as dire as they are.

Look, I love helicopters, but for the 666th's missions, a command Hind would just be a bad idea. The GDR's Hinds have their own roles in the battleplan. They do a lot of the infatry support work.

>Helos cannot take the same lateral and centrifugal stresses that a TSF can handle
Is this before or after mecha joints are accounted for.

I was implying the political order is still of old, hence Namibia/SWAfrica and Botswana answer to Pretoria, and Zambia/Malawi are under Salisbury. South Africa was aspiring back in the old days to a huge chunk of southern Africa.

You're forgetting that the majority of Rhodesia's soldiers were black, and a huge chunk of South Africa's were too. Yes, even the top tier ones, like Selous Scouts and 32 Batallion.

>and no most cannot travel the same speeds as the TSFs, especially when they are in full thruster mode
I disagree, When the 666th escaped a Hip was able to maintain speed with Theo's TSF and there was no reason for him to go slow
There are better pilots than Gretel,that is for sure

Having black soldiers is one thing but siding up with nations that wage war against you because you where the white devil is something completely different

The joints are the weakest parts of a TSF, and they're still tougher. Basically, take a look at some of the TSF combat that goes on. TSFs regularly get slammed onto the ground, and other things. A helo would not get up from that.

That's what it comes down to. It's not like helos aren't tough, or maintainence friendly, but TSFs, for all the shit they get about being unable to really take hits, they are able to take them better than other airborne assets.

Hell, numerous TSFs survive in some form after having taken a direct hit from a Fort-class. Yes, a lot dont, and yes, Lasers chew through TSFs like they're nothing, but for all that, it's still the best they have.

Did you not read the first part? Not him, but come on, this is simple Wikipedia stuff.

You DO know that Namibia and such were vassal states of South Africa, right? Or you do know that Rhodesia was part of a Federation before it went on it's own, right? Or that until the Carnation Revolution, Portugal was brutally and eagerly fighting in Angola and Mozambique?

By the 80's Namibia had the border war for 20 years, Rhodesia was kill and Angola and Mozambique had their hands full with their civil wars

They were not running at maximum speed, they were going slower to be in formation. They already knew the Stasi TSFs weren't going to pursue, they didn't have the fuel and such to.

The Hip's max speed (which is way above the safety limit, and barebones at that) is 260 km/h - not nearly enough to keep up with the TSFs. The Mi-24, which set numerous helo speed records back in the day, the max (again, which normally you can't goto, way above safety limits) is ~330 km/h. Also, again, the Pact didn't really operate the command helo concept all that much.

Also, yes there are better pilots than Gretel, but not in the commissariat for sure (besides any hyopthetical TSF wing they maintain). And it's not like they can just poach other TSF wings of their best pilots, since for one not all of them are even in the 666th's skill range. And even if they are, they are much morely needed to maintain a skill level in their own squadrons.

>tfw Americans will never irl or in ML form a squadron of Mi-24s besides aggressors/training to troll the Russians with

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The Lunar War was before even the 70s.

Just roll with it user.

There is any technical info about the TSF?

No :)

You feel it too, don't you?

Yui, Inia and Cryska are my waifus. Also waiting for scans for a lot of images is suffering.

>multiple waifus

You going to vote for Inia in the July BD poll then?

If I remember correctly, the main girls don't need a vote since they automatically get the birthday image. But I would vote for Inia if necessary.

No they don't, they just usually win because they're the main girls.

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>waiting for scans

You don't know the pain, multiple waifu faggot.

I still don't get why no one did this one. It's so beautiful.

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>tfw no Atlas Carver tsf

Fug

Only if it's her feeling up yuuya's colors

I don't know why I like her desire for Yuuya so much. It's so innocent and yet not.

>evil Jack Bauer

He'd be the first to admit he's done terrible things. Look at the end of every season. Dude breaks down like Takeru.

Posting best girls!

Half right

No

It must feel nice to cum inside Yui

Yui is a miracle of the universe.
It feels like heaven.

How would you know?

She's a virgin.

Wrong, Yui is my waifu.

But you're not her husbando

And you never Will be

I'd get Yui pregnant

How many times?

ALL THE TIMES

All my babies.

None.

I like seeing her suffer.

>I don't know why I like her desire for Yuuya so much. It's so innocent and yet not.

I hate to break it to you user, but she gets off to suffering. That's the reason why she thinks Yui and Yuuya have the best "colors", because of their traumatic pasts.

What would she say about the Schwarzesmarken cast then, especially Lise or Beatrix?

I heard about it

It's not just the colors she loves though. She's come to love Yuuya as a person. She's seen into his mind, she knows him.

Protect the world in which Yuuya Bridges lives. Protect Yuuya's world. Can one ask for a purer love?

Lise is a beautiful princess worth protecting and Axmann should be ashamed of what he's done

She'd get orgasms out of most of them, the exceptions being Pham, Gretel, Inghild and Walther. And even then their memories would still be above and beyond Yuuya's and Yui's.

She sure is and he sure should.

Strong princess vibes in this one. She's even captured and imprisoned by her very own Grey(brown) beast. Does that make Beatrix her knight in shining armor? It certainly isn't Theo.

>Pham
>Inghild
>Walther

Do you really believe that?

>Walther has had to watch so many good friends die, and the beautiful, kind, lonely girl he knew become a murderer who refused to believe anyone could still love her

>Inghild braving her whole life being bullied mercilessly, fleeing repression, taking on everyone's burdens self sacrifically to make others smile again, finally finding someone who deeply loved her only for him to die, followed by many good people she loved.

>Pham, hated all her life by people she only ever knew as her own, abused all her life, an utter martyr doing her best to make sure the last lights do not die in the hearts of her people, loving that which refused to be loved, and in the end who wanted much of it too but was too selfish to ask when others were suffering - and in the end ready to die with a smile on her face

Inia would find the SM crew an utter field day. Then again, her schlicking is kind of weird - Yui had only seen relatively few people die, and Yuuya had only his mother and his beloved captain die. Maybe she sees the immense guilt Yuuya holds, I don't know? Most everyone at Yukon has seen and witnessed many many more of their friends and loved ones die horrible deaths, so it's odd the way she sees Yui's and Yuuya's as the most pleasurable.

Which makes her rivalry with Tarisa all the weirder, since Tarisa is bottling up some real deal feels.

I wanna draw Pham hugging all the different cast members for some reason.

Pham also needs healing. A lot of it.

They seem to be the best at dealing with their feelings, and the least scarred. So like the rest of Argos squadron, it seemed to me that they wouldn't "excite" Inia as much as the rest.

But I never claimed that they didn't suffer.

Beatrix would be the dragon guarding her. Theo is her knight in shining armor in a way because he ultimately slays the dragon and frees her from her imprisonment.

So laying the dragon, not slaying her.

He killed the princess before the dragon user, I don't think he makes a very god knight.