Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies
Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim gib gib gib! DDDD To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. httpswww.gommies.gomfug httpswww.gommies.gomstarve
GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here httpswww.gommies.gomohfugme
It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Nathan Davis
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" XDDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
Op you're a faggot, everyday everyone here makes fun of your shitty communism. Have thought about an hero?
Carter White
(((Marxism-Leninism)))
Colton Ward
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Aiden Evans
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Carson Sanders
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Caleb Bell
>tfw when you get smashed in the face with a skateboard by your comrades when all you wanted to do was riot and attack unsuspecting people
Adrian Brown
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies
Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim gib gib gib! DDDD To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. httpswww.gommies.gomfug httpswww.gommies.gomstarve
GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here httpswww.gommies.gomohfugme
It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Camden Brown
mfw commies have bean bag chairs
Easton White
>tfw you're funded by Wall Street yids while claiming capitalism is the ultimate evil
Ayden Hernandez
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Alexander Morris
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Zachary Turner
*ahem*
Jayden Williams
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Charles Johnson
>tfw you're an oppressed political extremist who gets funding from the state
Hunter Harris
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Jaxon Ward
More revolution material
Connor Robinson
Communism is the only viable future we have. All societies face crisis. It is unable to deal with crisis because capitalism atomizes society into individuals. it makes it unable for the masses to plan for the future. The only remedy for pollution capitalist believe is legitimate, is a private party suing a polluter only after the pollution has taken place. In capitalism individuals exist only for their own individual benefit. This completely ignores the fact that humanity is not composed of one individual, but of many. If we are to resolve the issues we have, we must act as an us. We have to unleash our collective human species-being from the reigns of private property. The collective human species-being is the being that creates dams, hospitals and in the future it will create mass drivers, it will bring mankind into harmony with the earth. Right now we are just a collection of beings that are unorganized and running around with no heads. We are engaged in a struggle against ourselves. The sole cause of this struggle is private property. We have divided the Earth and its products into parcels that we fight over. Instead of uniting forces and using this Earth to provide for all, we use it to get more parcels. This does not serve mankind, but serves individuals. Who in the end are just serving capital. Capital is a living parasite that demands more and more labor. Capital requires growth or it disappears, this growth is supplied by human labor. I hope you realize humanity cannot have a future, where man continues to fight against itself.
Easton Howard
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Caleb Martinez
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James Howard
Thats pic is what commies want to avoid. What they want is live in a gulag, in their equality
Isaac Perez
>Communism is the only viable future we have You've been saying that since 1848. It didn't happen in the 19th century. It didn't work in the 20th century. The 21st century ain't looking so good either. Maybe the 22nd century will be your year.
Matthew Russell
FAQ for washed liberal-morons, kekistani edgelord teenagers and normal people who simply do not know much about communism:
1. Communism is the USSR. The USSR is a socialist state, not a communist state.
2.1. Why, then, does the Communists all the time refer to the USSR? Because the USSR is our historical experience of the practical construction of a communist society. We highlight the positive aspects of the experience of the USSR and study the negative experience. It is also worthwhile to understand that the USSR is for us a certain significant Symbol.
2.2 Communism is a dictatorship Under communism there are no classes, accordingly there is no dictatorship.
3. What about the dictatorship of the proletariat? The dictatorship of the proletariat is a temporary form of political power called upon to ensure the observance of the rights of the proletariat during the transition from capitalist society to communism.
4. But Stalin ... With regard to the period of Stalin's rule, we can identify a lot of positive and negative aspects of his activities. But unfortunately, all-round propaganda has distorted the history of this period too much, therefore, without a comprehensive historical analysis of this period, it is impossible to draw unambiguous conclusions on the basis of ALL declassified documents.
5. And yet Stalin ... We adequately perceive the figure of Stalin and treat him normally and without hysteria. Nevertheless, Stalin - though significant, but by no means the main figure of the communist movement.
6. What is the main figure, if not Stalin? Marx
7. Ie you are not Communists, but Marxists? Communism is part of Marx's teaching. At present, Marx's teaching has evolved into many directions. As for the precise definition, the terms "Communist" and "Marxist" often very much depend on the context.
8. Communism is the antithesis of democracy. By no means. Communism is just a true democracy.
Camden Morris
9. Under communism - all work in the Gulag for workdays on 24/7. On the contrary, the Communists set their task to reduce the number of working hours, by increasing the productivity of labor. Ideally, we should work for 4 hours in fully automated production, the remaining time dedicated to self-development, art, hobby.
10. But wait! This is a capitalistic post-industrial one! You are deeply mistaken my young friend. This is precisely communism. And under capitalism you will not get it. Communism is the highest stage of development of society and economy and if capitalism is similar to what I described above, then it turns into communism.
Chase Brooks
So, what has communism done for me?
Connor Campbell
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Hudson Martinez
>FAQ for washed liberal-morons, kekistani edgelord teenagers and normal people who simply do not know much about communism: >1. Communism is the USSR. >The USSR is a socialist state, not a communist state. >2.1. Why, then, does the Communists all the time refer to the USSR? >Because the USSR is our historical experience of the practical construction of a communist society. We highlight the positive aspects of the experience of the USSR and study the negative experience. It is also worthwhile to understand that the USSR is for us a certain significant Symbol. >2.2 Communism is a dictatorship >Under communism there are no classes, accordingly there is no dictatorship. >3. What about the dictatorship of the proletariat? >The dictatorship of the proletariat is a temporary form of political power called upon to ensure the observance of the rights of the proletariat during the transition from capitalist society to communism. >4. But Stalin ... >With regard to the period of Stalin's rule, we can identify a lot of positive and negative aspects of his activities. But unfortunately, all-round propaganda has distorted the history of this period too much, therefore, without a comprehensive historical analysis of this period, it is impossible to draw unambiguous conclusions on the basis of ALL declassified documents. >5. And yet Stalin ... >We adequately perceive the figure of Stalin and treat him normally and without hysteria. Nevertheless, Stalin - though significant, but by no means the main figure of the communist movement. >6. What is the main figure, if not Stalin? >Marx >7. Ie you are not Communists, but Marxists? >Communism is part of Marx's teaching. At present, Marx's teaching has evolved into many directions. As for the precise definition, the terms "Communist" and "Marxist" often very much depend on the context. >8. Communism is the antithesis of democracy. >By no means. Communism is just a true democracy.
Colton Williams
The only reason the USSR lasted for as long as it did is the fact that it was a dictatorship.
Hudson Miller
>Ideally, we should work for 4 hours in fully automated production If it is fully automated why work at all?
Jose Bell
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Leo Smith
Is that supposed to be jason?
Chase Edwards
Tell me one country were communism has worked in. Just one. Dont ramble rhetoric, just tell me one fucking country were your retarded bullshit has worked. Protip: Fucking none.
Nolan Kelly
I can't because no society has trancended the law of value and acheived socialism.
Eli Nelson
Nah. That's how I image you look faggot
Josiah Wood
> You should start changing the names of these threads to /PoorFags General/
Wyatt Ortiz
I always laugh when cuckpitalists mention famines.
I mean, anglos genocided 20% of the Irish famine because it was more profitable to export the food. Well, that happens in Africa today.
Christian Turner
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Kayden Butler
Poor fag detected
I do not usually drink Starbucks but since you are here.
Go pour me my coffee I have so much work to do, I can't stop counting my money and it makes me tired.
Also get me one of those chocolate brownies out of the case and warm it up. I might consider tipping you for your efforts as a barista to please my time constraints.
Ryder Diaz
Fucking Kek
Asher Green
>He says talking to a collapsed socialist flag
Owen Garcia
Democratic Confederalism
Gavin Hill
Jesus Christ you are dumb. The USSR didn't last because it was in ruins after WW2. The USA was not, and only the Western nations got the Marshall Plan off of the USA (which enslaved them to the US economy). The reason the East wasn't doing so well, and hell all of Europe wasn't, is called World War 2, in which everyone in Europe killed the shit out of each other. Just compare statistics of US casualties vs other casualties.
Kayden Cox
I would use a leftcom flag is there was one.
Joseph Murphy
And no society ever will, thats what you fucking commie fags dont understand. for there to be a society at all, there needs to be an economy, for there to be an economy there needs to be property. Property is the basis of human civilization, it always has been and it always will so your "law of value" will never be "transcended". you need to start living in the real world and stop reading marxist shit, youre not a special intellectual with insight the rest of society lacks, youre just a moron spouting nonsense. as Reagan said "the marxist is that who reads marx, the anti-marxist is that who reads marxs and understands him" fuck off with your faggot commie shit, i suffer enough in my country because of it, dont spread that bullshit around. You seriously need to get redpilled.
Noah Johnson
>bragging about his wealth on Sup Forums
How empty is your life?
Eli Hill
>food shortages
Those were pretty common in Russia and China, before communism.
Grayson Gonzalez
the main problem is. people dont want to be equal. people want to be more powerful more richer than eachtoher. its in the human nature. and thats how it should be. if you work hard you should earn much higher then the lazy ass. in communism it rewards the lazy one. i know there are problems with capitalism. but its the best we can do for now. dont forget there will always be corruptions. atleast we have nice cars foods on our table. the ideologi is wrong on its roots. you think people want equality like thats a good thing. it never works.
Ryan Butler
you fucking kulak burgeouise filth
Aiden Jenkins
I'm not really seeing an argument here.
David Reed
Know where they are pretty uncommon? Modern capitalist countries
Aaron Allen
That is what Louis XVI said.
Carson Allen
Heт чeлoвeкa - нeт пpoблeмы.
Grayson Edwards
>capitalism >even though everyone needs bread we throw it out when we can't sell it because muh profit
Levi Long
Nobody wants to argue or debate with you. We're just here to shitpost
Gavin Thompson
Reporting in comrade! A spectre is haunting Sup Forums! We have nothing to lose but our chains and nothing to gain but the world!!
Parker Diaz
FUCK OFF COMMIE
Zachary Reyes
NO U
Nolan Price
Not an argument.
Cringe.
No one has food shortages these days, not even Cuba, because there hasn't been a full-scale war in ever. Breadlines were pretty common in Great Depression era America though, I wonder what caused it, must've been those ebil communists and jews!
Hunter Thomas
>people dont want to be equal. Speak for yourself, cuck. Just because you are too insecure to take control of your life doesn't mean everyone needs to have overlords
>people want to be more powerful more richer than eachtoher. its in the human nature. People are much happier when they live in a more equal situation. A community is happier when everyone is poor then when everyone is richer, but some much more then others.
Austin Cruz
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Alexander Cook
>said the person who unironically thinks that the reason why your retarded system fails after giving birth to two generations is war casualties
Japan and Germany were also in ruins, retard.
Jason Fisher
Better dead than red. Putting your kind in the ground once more will be good for the world. Sage.
Adam Taylor
>implying potatonigger affairs matter in the land of surplus
Adrian Baker
Yeah because they received US funding for reconstruction, with the US itself barely taking any damage during WW2. What is your point? Also Japan was hardly in ruins, the actual island of Japan was never invaded. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were in ruins, but that's pretty much it.
John Rodriguez
There were no breadlines in USSR.
The breadlines appeared after the dismantlement of USSR, ironically when Russia adopted capitalism.
Really makes me think
Carter Garcia
>Great Depression era I see you missed the word "modern"
Asher Wilson
>if i ignore every instance where capitalism fails, i win!
Evan Peterson
>Jesus Christ you are dumb >nazbol
Carter Powell
I can see how a commie wouldnt understand basic shit. No society will ever transcend the law of value retard.
Dominic White
No modern communist country has had breadlines either, not even North Korea.
>he thinks I'm NazBol
I just love triggering capicucks.
Dominic Bell
>oops, i did it again!
Nicholas Hernandez
You have made a claim. What is your reasoning?
Parker Clark
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Jayden Williams
Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Starvation, the ideology of theft and envy.
Starvation is the next stage of hungry following the capitalist and the socialist stage.
What exactly is starvation according to downies:
>Starvation is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Starvation in it's full form is a stateless, classless famine that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a famine Starvation teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of famine follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually they will starve' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Communisim by Jenny Craigs weight watchers so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.
The "law of value" is often equated with the "labour theory of value" but this is strictly speaking an error, for five reasons.[3]
The law of value only states a general regulative principle about the necessary and inevitable relationship between the trading values of commodities, and the socially average labour-time required to supply them. It is simply a law governing commodity exchange. The labour theory of value in economics aims to explain how that determination actually works, what kinds of causal relationships are involved, how the law of value interacts with other economic laws, etc. For Marx himself, the "labour theory of value" referred only to the theory of value upheld by some of the classical political economists from William Petty to David Ricardo, who regarded human labour as the real substance of product value. Marx's own value theory is not a theory of all value, but only of the value-system involved in commodity production and commodity trade. Marx never referred to his own theory as a "labour theory of value";[4] his own critique of the political economists was, that they all failed to explain satisfactorily how the determination of product-value by labour-time actually worked—they assumed it, but they did not explain it consistently (see below). Thus, Marx often regarded himself as perfecting a theory which had already existed for a long time, but which had never been consistently presented before.[5] Nevertheless, in the Marxist tradition, Marx's theory of product-value is conventionally labeled "the labour theory of value"—while controversy persists about how much Marx's theory actually differs from that of the classical political economists.
Austin Roberts
So in a free society there is nothing to stop someone from living as a communist. What's stopping you? Why are your ideas so good they have to be implemented by force?
Also, how many poppers should one consume before dilating ones asshole enough to shove an eggplant right up it without much effort? So rare I get to talk to true dyed-in-the-wool faggots, figured now's the time to ask.
Dylan Perez
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Eli Perez
if you were rich i bet you wouldnt want to loose all of your money and become "poor" with all of your poor commie friends. only a poor that are very jelous of the rich like all of you commies are can say something like that. you can never have hobbies and you can never focus on something. for example i like sporty faster cars. thats my hobby but some commie overlord will say fuck off get this piece of shit lada thats enough for you thats what you need. they wont care about your dreams user. they wont care about what you like. just live a boring life and do what you ve been told to do. you cant decide the way people gonna be happy. if you are so sure of yourself cmon lets make a communist state and capitalist state. and let make it free for everyone to decide where to live. free to escape to whereever they like. communist state will be empty within a month.
Robert Young
>>he thinks I'm NazBol >have on nazbol larp flag >he thinks I'm some lolberg
Easton Ortiz
not an argument...
Wyatt Cruz
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Thomas Nguyen
It simply took too long for the USSR to fail to blame it on casualties. It's not about funding. They literally rebuilt it by themselves. It's a moot point, not to mention that the population started growing rapidly after the war, peaking in the early 90's.
Thomas Lopez
What are you even saying? Cringe.
James Gutierrez
>But North Korea is not real gommunism. It's state capitalism
Besides, gooks eat rice not bread
Austin Richardson
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Luke Jenkins
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Jaxon Wilson
I fixed it for you user
Nolan Walker
Top kek
Jordan Gomez
>if you were rich i bet you wouldnt want to loose all of your money and become "poor" with all of your poor commie friends. Obviously, i'm not a cuck. But i'm not expecting the help of the rich folks. To them i only expect a bullet to the head.
And take this retarded shit back to facebook where it belongs
>cmon
Kayden King
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Thomas Garcia
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Dylan Williams
Hello gomrades! X_DDddDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of ebin revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. X_-DDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :-DDDDd >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all FUG. When capitalists run away we win and I gill you all. Eventually the fungtions of state stob and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :-DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. (BENIS :_DD)
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage 4 Nod real gommunism. Nexzt gountry. problems werent. :-DDdd
Logan Jones
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Daniel Richardson
@142280947
This stale meme was already posted 5 or 6 times itt. It's time to stop
