Which woman caused Gohan to become such a loser after cell?

Which woman caused Gohan to become such a loser after cell?

Videl obviously. If she wasn't in the picture, I am sure Chi Chi would have allowed him to train but also continue to his studies.

His deadbeat dad.

himself, there's no excuse for being the worlds strongest person yet still letting people push you around

Gohan lost to Videl's cock.

>Gohan lost his cock.

Gohan's always been a loser, whenever he seemed like he wasn't one, it was just a fluke.

It took the death of a nice robot and like fifty different old dudes giving him free power ups for him to be as strong as he is. If all he ever had to work with was the fruits of his own training he'd probably be about as strong as Krillin.

>Chi Chi
>allowed him to train
She was against it, even when the super evil planet destroying monster was right there in front of everyone. If she was against training to stop the destruction of the world they live in, she would be against any training.

In what world ??!
Did you forget Gohan head butted the shit out of Radditz? That he had huge hidden powers before anybody ever "gave him power ups"

She let Goten train, fuck off.

Pan

>Someone who is financially secured, able to support his family on his own and be there for them when they need him
>Somehow is considered to be a loser
Right, next time, he should be like Goku and go find random people to beat up instead of spending time with his family and providing for them. Or better yet, maybe he should give his enemy a senzu bean at a big fight so they can beat up his daughter at full strength instead.

Goten doesn't have to worry about getting into university yet

Gohan is a nerd. Get over it, guys. Goten and Trunks got to train all they wanted and became normalfags anyway. Mutts are lazy.
She reluctantly gives in every single time. You faggots keep blowing this shit out of proportion. Chi Chi knows the fate of the world > studying; her bitching and strictness is a shtick, supposed to be stupid and comical. That or she's just being protective of her son.

>loser

>Rich as fuck, successful scholar, cute fit wife who doesn't even nag him

You got your priorities all mixed up

I get why Gohan stopped giving a fuck after Buu saga, but why the fuck did Videl stop training to become a fucking waifu? For that matter, why did she stop at flying, and never bother to learn any other ki techniques?

Why does Toriyama hate strong female characters so much?

>I get why Gohan stopped giving a fuck after Buu saga, but why the fuck did Videl stop training to become a fucking waifu?
She found love and had new priorities. Really, she was only training to be stronger than her father (though she was actually stronger than him). But then she found not only her future husband but a bunch of people far stronger than her father and herself.

Toriyama and other mangaka don't hate strong female characters, they have different values. The women of Dragon Ball are pretty strong in more senses than one. Regardless of how strong the men are, they all cower before the women.

Himself.

That whole saga was a harsh lesson on what a child becomes when the father is out of the picture?

Black?

Considering that every Saiyan's wife controls every aspect of their life that isn't about fighting, I'd say the women are plenty strong where it counts.

like most asian women user

Yes, but that's a far less tangible strength. They could still get turned into a fine red mist if any major threat so much as flicked them with their full strength. I'm talking about the kind of strong female character where they can actually fight alongside the guys.

Women were always a bane of power levels.

Goku:
>no wife - proper development in DB
>gets married - dies in a fight against Radditz
>stays away from wife in afterlife - beats Saiyans and Frieza, gets Kaio-ken, gets SSJ, can into teleportation
>trains for THREE years while staying with wife - no power level gains, gets heart cancer
>spends one year in Hyperbolic No Wife Chamber - SSJ mastered
>seven years in afterlife - jumps to fucking SSJ3, learns fusion
>back to life and wife - no progress
>spends some time with Beerus - SSB
>goes to Hyperbolic No Wife Chamber - KKx10 SSB
>goes back to wife - instantly loses control over ki, suspicious as fuck
>runs away to Kaiou - healed

Veggie:
>stronger than Goku until meets Bulma on Namek
>wise enough to fuck his gf and run away - gets SSJ
>Hyperbolic No Wife Chamber - SSJ Stage 2
>stays 7 years with wife - only gets SSJ2, completely outclassed by kakarot
>runs away to Beerus - surpasses Goku in 6 months

Gohan:
>useless aside from rage autism until Piccolo kidnaps him
>gits gud with Piccolo
>gits gud on Namek
>trains three years with mother around - no gains
>Hyperbolic No Mom Chamber - SSJ2, surpasses his father
>spends 7 years with mother - actually LOSES power
>goes to Sacred World - surpasses his father again
>gets married - cannot even into SSJ

Coincidence? I don't think so.

Also:
>Champa has female supervisor - fat fuck, no one treats him seriously
>Beerus has male supervisor - magnificent cat, gets all pussies

My eyes have truly been opened. Thank you.

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Kek, Videl actually got Gohan into the tournament and was interested in Ki shit.

Gohan was showing signs of weakness when he couldn't keep up with Dabura, Goku already was disappointed and at that point in time Gohan spent years with Chi-chi and like a month with Videl.

saved

The guys fight to get away from their women. Why bring them with?

This insightful post should be shared on /fit/.

Post the chart next

Fuck, can't argue with that.

Woah.

>Why does Toriyama hate strong female characters so much?

It's a shounen. It's supposed to appeal to little boys.

It all makes sense now. Though you should include Krillin too before he got 18 he was always fighting alongside others and helping in all the ways he could. Now ever since he got married he became a complete pussy, spending almost the entire buu saga hiding on the lookout, and was scarred of frieza's solders despite being several times stronger.

>Women are always weaker.
It's not just the women, it's literally everyone except goku, vegeta and occasionally gohan when he can be arsed. Characters are introduced, fight, and then either die or become friends and then the character development stops.

All the women are weak because they don't have any screen time devoted to them so they can't power up. Yamcha hasn't been relevant in decades so his power level never increases while krillin is at least around as a punching bag so his power level continues to grow, albeit insignificantly because he's not the hero.

18 was powerful as fuck but then got outclassed in the show and since she became krillin's wife her significance as a story character is next to none so her becoming more powerful isn't meaningful so it doesn't happen.

Thanks /fit/izen

>That or she's just being protective of her son.
From what?
Death is irrelevant in DBZ.
In fact the boundaries of the mortal coil and the afterlife are broken by a bunch of no name aliens.
All Bulma needs to do is backtrace Goku's flight path from Earth, send anyone to learn instant transmission and done. Or King Kai telempathy. Or Piccolo remembers he's part Kami and just warp there.
I know Chi Chi is retarded but come on, how many deaths have been reversed in the entirety of this series? Ignoring civilians

>>trains three years with mother around - no gains
Actually there is zero gauge to Gohan's strength post time skip but before HBTC.
For all we know he could have actually been on par with 19 and Gero.

What episode is that from?

I think it's from the second Broly movie

It could also be Fusion Reborn, it's definitely from a movie.

Anybody know the episode where videl and gohan are in there superhero costumes the one where gohan does not have his glasses or bandanna.

gohan as a baby was stronger than raditz, who was stronger than goku and piccolo combined, who are each much stronger than krillin.

Wrath of the Dragon movie.

Bad parenting. Gohan, when Goku was around and alive, became a loser. Goten, initially raised by Gohan and Chichi, became the youngest super saiyan, but when Goku came back, became a loser. Mirai Trunks, raised by Gohan, became awesome, while current Trunks, raised by Vegeta, became a loser. Pan, raised by Gohan, became awesome. If you want to become great, don't get raised by a pure-blooded Saiyan.

She had been strongest for about 10 years

TORIYAMAAAAAAA

What's the fucking point of seeing women job? Target audience don't want to watch them go through a training montage or defeat the boss, the only option left for them is to job or take care of the house.

Because a woman fighting would be emasculating.

>the youngest child is spoiled and gets to have fun

Wow, it's like she's a parent.

Gohan is just a metaphor for wasted talent. Like some one else said, if he only had the fruits of his labor he'd be as strong as android saga krillin. I cant stand akira's thought process with gohan

>I am sure Chi Chi would have allowed him to train but also continue to his studies.

Nigga, that's a good joke.

Videl actually cared about martial arts and got Gohan to put a Gi on so he could teach her how to fly.

Even though Videl became a completely different character in Super, ChiChi was ultimately more harmful in the long run. She had years of raising Gohan alone, that sort of thing shapes his nature.

Chi Chi, no doubt. And his incondicional trust in Goku's words. Videl actually healed him, they were a great team and great characters as Saiyamans. Then daddy Goku and Toriyama ruined them.

Lol there wont be anything to work for or spend time with when everything is destroyed and you are dead.......

Whats to stop a villain stronger than current gohan from beating the shit out of him and pounding videls brains out while hes watching on the ground and torturing pan while the rest of the gang are nowhere to be found.

Gohan would of wished he'd never neglected his training then.

>Veggie:
>stronger than Goku
>surpassed Goku in 6 months

Stop posting Vegeta

The real answer is Toriyama.

is GITS emasculating to you?