I'm fucking sick of hearing about gay marriage

I'm fucking sick of hearing about gay marriage

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So vote no and they'll drop it for good user.

It's just an exercise for normies to virtue signal about a petty issue and for jews to destroy society

If these people actually cared about """muh rights""" they would be protesting in the streets for actual inequalities, like abos who get brought up in 3rd world tier conditions in australia in 2017. there are so many more real issues, like obesity, depression but these normies just buy jewish bait and are too scared to even voice a negative opinion on a shit tier non-issue

this shit is gone too far

I already did m8y

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WAAAAAH WHY CANT WE JUST EXCLUDE THOUSANDS OF TAXPAYERS FROM HAVING EQUAL RIGHTS.

OH THATS RIGHT YOU DELIBERATELY EXCLUDED GAY PEOPLE FROM THE LAW IN THE EARLY 2000S BECAUSE NOBODY HAD THOUGH TO FUCK OVER GAY PEOPLE IN WRITING BEFORE THAT.

Depression, treatment of abos, obesity, cannot be fixed by a simple stroke of the pen. Your idiot lawmakers cannot be asked to do their job and this is the result.

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Get AIDS and die, faggot.

wtf I hate Westminster democracy now

>THOUSANDS OF TAXPAYERS
looking at poofs as just a govt paycheck
wanna know how i know your a fucking kike

>Depression, treatment of abos, obesity, cannot be fixed by a simple stroke of the pen.
It can be fixed by a simple pull of a trigger. Time to enter the fun camp poofta

Jim Beam in a can? Tell. me. MOAR.

you're a braindead dumb faggot

marriage is not a fucking right. even any de facto couple in this country has the exact same rights as a married couple.

99% of gay people are fucked in the head and gay marriage isn't going to be some cure for your fucked head-itis.

the whole point, you dumb faggot, is that for pretty much the first time ever in this country, people are making a huge storm over a social issue, except it's a fucking non-issue compared to so much other shit. it just shows that most people are virtue signalling braindead idiots that couldn't string a pair of original thoughts together if they tried

It is a right that straight people get!

Why should gay people be denied the status and benefits of marriage?

It is completely NOT a non-issue or it wouldn't be so hotly debated.

you're going to lose. your degenerate faggotry will not become culturally accepted despite all your tears and tantrums.

i honestly hate you.

You are allowed to marry any women you like, you are not excluded from doing so. It's not our fault you don't like women, Sounds pretty sexist to me actually you misogynistic bigot.

It's part of (((their))) long march. It won't stop there. It's about (((their))) globalist agenda. They want to run a prison planet of border-less, race-less, culture-less, nation-less, identity-less subdued sheep. They make up less than 1% of the world's population, yet look at all they control from the world's finances to the media that brainwashes us.

In short, they use the entertainment and news media to encourage globalism and discourage nationalism and traditional western values. They distort and lie about the present and past in that effort.

The truth about immigration, by the numbers:
>youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:
>youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:
>youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice explained:
>youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why are we in decline - Cultural Marxism:
>youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

The Jewish role in the refugee crisis:
>youtube.com/watch?v=IfCOO7Z39j0

Leftist subversion explained by former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov:
>youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:
>youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg
>youtube.com/watch?v=PFHa4db3hA0
>youtube.com/watch?v=A94smJ9QJ5g

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:
>youtube.com/watch?v=hvNNtBmA3SQ

The Jewish role in the porn industry:
>youtube.com/watch?v=gwd_Iofr6ZQ

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)
>youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412

The Holocaust:
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All the polls in the last ten years have indicated majority support for gay marriage.

How cynical can you get?

>Why should gay people be denied the status and benefits of marriage?

Because gay relationships don't produce children, which is the entire reason marriage even gets those benefits in the first place.

Friendly reminder that's there's nothing wrong with state or even personally funded helicopter rides for those special few people.
Also, another friendly reminder that's there's nothing wrong with denying people basic human rights if they're degenerates and/or faggots and/or cunts.

What about gays who have kids from prior heterosexual relationships, surrogates or adopted kids? Why should the 6000 of them be treated differently?

Marriage is not restricted to those with kids so your argument fails.

Every faggot has the exact same right to marry a woman of his choice as any other citizen. What you want is not equal rights but specially tailored faggot rights.

they are info bombing your whole country.
there is no reason for you to care.
they are trying to guilt you.
they want you to think everyone thinks this way
make sure you make media of your own
spread flyers
pay for ads
gettin public access hours and rant
this shit cant fucking stand opposed
its a bunch of fairies and docile women
they are bluffing
fuck them up OZBROS
GO ALL IN
CALL THEM ON THE FAGGOTRY ACT

YALL ARE ONE OF OUR LAST FRONTS. WE HAVE LOST THE BATTLE HERE IN MY COUNTRY.

YOU MUST DO WHAT IS RIGHT DUDE BROS.

GOOD LUCK AND GOD SPEED

Jim Beam with Coke. It is real.

Why can't men marry men? How does that impugn straight marriages at all?

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What about gays who have kids from prior heterosexual relationships, surrogates or adopted kids? Why should the 6000 of them be treated differently?
Because they are not a proper family or stepfamily.
>Marriage is not restricted to those with kids so your argument fails.
No it doesn't.

Gays are by majority pedo's so giving kids to gays is one of the worst thing you can do to a child

>Why should the 6000 of them be treated differently?

Because they can't produce kids by the very nature of their relationship, neither will the vast majority of an already tiny minority adopt and certainly not go the test tube route.

Because it's stupid. Conspiracies to commit sodomy are not families.

How are they not a proper family? Why do you determine who is a family and who is not?

[citation needed]

We don't treat heterosexuals who have non-biological children any differently. This is about the right to treat gay people worse for being gay and people are challenging that.

That's because marriage derived from the bible as the unity between man and woman and was engaged as a tax break so the couple could have children more easily.
Gays literally have no need for marriage, marriage is a concept that only applies to straight people.
This is called logic.

Marriage existed prior to Christianity. What about non-Christians? What about separation of church and state? Why are those tax breaks given for married people and not just married people with children then?

Actually pretty good m8.

its gonna get worse

it doesnt.
it normalized your behavior
your behavior is corrosive with no opposition
there for you stay put in your little corner
your little space that was given to you out of gullibility (they dont kill you fags anymore, you should be grateful)
but now you want your whole leg in the door
guess what, your leverage stays where it is
you wont subvert binary models
with whimsical sexual impulse movement
you wont subvert children with your perversion
no man alive should be forced to deal with what you mental cases call normal.
keep it to yourself, its not criminal
but know you are no good for families.
that's all that matters.
family value attacking marxist cocksuckers.

There are plenty of straight couples who are bad parents and shitty people. Why should all gay people have to suffer?

You could have a society of surrogates and artificial womb babies, but then you would have a nation all grown in test tubes and were genetically programmed for a specific task, and not let nature determine who we are.

>We don't treat heterosexuals who have non-biological children any differently

On a case by case basis, if they do somehow have kids, exceptions can be made. As a general rule though, which is what we are discussion and on which we are building policy, gays simply do not have children, married or not, because biology. So benefits designed to make a man and a women feel financially stable enough to be able to afford children is entirely wasted on them, and will in most likelyhood fund their coke habit instead. We know what you're like.

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>Gay "people"
>Definitely not just abominations that shouldn't exist
>Definitely not just a genetic mutation which, like all genetic mutations, should either be tweaked or purged from the gene pool.

>How are they not a proper family? Why do you determine who is a family and who is not?
Natural order. The purpose of the institution of marriage is to promote reproduction and a healthy stable foundation for the family.

Homophilia has nothing to do with marriage and never has. The idea is obscene.

Gay marriage is not about the gays who are promiscuous, it is about the ones who have kids and the ones who want to be together for life. Why should their lives be made harder?

Sounds like nonsense, link the actual study.

because it's an incentive for married people to have children.
Non-Christians are still getting married the right way, and will probably have kids.
The separation of church and state shouldn't throw our traditions to the wayside so you can desecrate it.
You want to get married?
Put on rings and say you're married.
You want tax cuts?
Fuck off you filthy Jew.

>How are they not a proper family? Why do you determine who is a family and who is not?

Mother and father. One faggy father and another LARPing fag "father" is not the same thing.

Vote yes then. There is literally no reason to vote no aside from the slippery slope argument, which is a logical fallacy anyways.

Even if you believe marriage is between a man and a woman, you can still hold that belief if its legal for homosexual couples to marry. Same goes for religious marriages. We already have secular marriages and religious marriages; as long as religious institutions aren't forced to marry gays it should be perfectly fine.

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Then why do the benefits apply to those without children?

Why though?

Is it even moral for gay couples to have kids?

Notice how he said thousands and not tens of thousands. That's because the number of fags who will actually get married comes in at ~7500. A pretty pitiful number considering everyone else will have to put up with their shit.

Buy your own media company.

IT'S AN INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO HAVE CHILDREN FOR THE SECOND FUCKING TIME
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what im saying is.
do it the old fashioned way
you and your boyfriend marry a lesbian couple
you might have fun

fuck off shill

Fuck off sodomite.

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Someone defaced a bus I was just on with a YES Equality sticker.. I made it my duty to remove it.

When are they gonna announce the results of the poll?

>Hey John, turns out if we get married the government gives us coke money. You up for it?

I think you think that we were born yesterday.

CHILDREN REQUIRE BOTH A MALE AND FEMALE TO RAISE THEM, IT'S FUCKING NATUREEEEEEEEEE
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we should all band together and start our own tv station desu

just fill it with facebook tier memes with subliminal conservative values and the normies will love it

I'm a gay guy and I'm caring less and less about gay marriage. Everyone talks about it as if it's the end all be all of social justice or some kind of right equivalent to letting blacks or women vote.

Here in 'Merica at least, there's options you can have that don't require traditional marriage. In an afternoon you can have a lawyer draw up everything you would normally get anyway, so it becomes just a matter of begging for a tax break.

So just vote yes and you won't have to hear about it again. Pretty obvious, eh dickhead?

Why? You keep getting invitations, or what?

>muh slippery slope fallacy
>muh foot in door technique
Which one is it?

S l i p p e r y S l o p e
Also, why the fuck would I vote yes? I find gays weird as fuck (either effeminate or just an outright tranny at this point) and they're a minor genetic mutation that really shouldn't exist in this age.

No as

Australians are just salty.
Our number 1 homosexual, Kevin Rudd, not only gets the finest boy pussy, but he also has a beard that has earned him $40milly.

Living the fucking dream.

Well put Old Zealand

>some kind of right equivalent to letting blacks or women vote
Good point. After we get rid of fag marriage, the 14th and 15th amendments are next.

Yes.

The number of gay people with children as of a 2014 ( I think) study was rated at around 6500. About 10% of gays are married in the United States currently. Assuming 3% of the population is gay and Australia has about 22 million people that's 66k people. Why should 66k people be systematically denied rights in a country with separation of church and state?

Then why do those benefits not SOLELY apply to those with children?

That has been proven to decrease mental health, pressuring gays into opposite sex relationships.

That pdf you link claims it gets the figure from:

link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01542053?no-access=true

That article from 1988 makes NO such claim. Why would 88% of sex offenders be bisexual or gay if the overwhelming majority of victims are female?

>Why [a mother and father the proper family] though?

Is this a question you really need answered? Jesus Christ...

OK. Men and women, real ones, are different and set up in different ways. Each brings their own thing into a child's life, both of which are vital to that child's development. A kid without a father is almost certain to come out fucked up. Same goes for a mother.

Being close minded is a sign of lower intelligence.

It's a slippery slope. Next is dogs.

>That has been proven to decrease mental health, pressuring gays into opposite sex relationships.
But you're saying it like that's a bad thing.
Also:
>Why should 66k people be systematically denied rights in a country with separation of church and state?
Because there's nothing wrong with denying rights to mentally challenged and retarded people. They should get help to become normal and not... whatever they fucking are currently.

I'm voting no cause the reddit virtue signalling is too much to handle

If you can't convince me without devolving into rabid angry ad hominem your argument must be pretty shit

So far the only argument is that it's a human right to be married, that's not true, there's plenty of cases where it's not allowed. This is currently one of them.

But you see, this constant nagging from people being supposedly "open minded" is really forcing some people to becoming closed minded.
Like me.

>Why should 66k people be systematically denied rights in a country with separation of church and state?

lol Australia isnt America. Show me the law that says there's a seperation of church and state. I think you like most fools gets too much information from television and can't differentiate sovereign law of one country to another.

>votes have barcodes that can identify you
>that fuck up that was the census

Lmao fuck that shit, the last thing I need is to apply for a job in 20yrs and some Cheka agent of commissar Shorten throws me into the Lubyanka because I voted unfavourably in a survey 20yrs ago and therefore need to undergo mandatory cultural sensitivity training where I watch two guys shove things into each other's arses for hours until I say it's beautiful and how I would love my children to end up like this.

DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT INCENTIVE MEEAANS???

>Vote yes then. There is literally no reason to vote no aside from the slippery slope argument, which is a logical fallacy anyways.

It is only a logical fallacy if there is no evidence that indicates the slippery slope will be followed. We know that in other jurisdictions the slope has been followed, so it is not a fallacious argument. It is truly reasonable to be concerned with the safe schools tier developments we will undergo.

Tell me how two men have the right to have children.

I'm voting yes because if Turnbull legalises it then there will be better legal protections and loopholes than Shorten will add.

Ch 5 § 116 The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.

Why do any two unrelated consenting adults have the right to have children?

>Several studies have shown that approximately 33% of convicted male child molesters molest males (Holland, 2007). In the study by Erickson, et al. (1988), 86% of the male sex offenders who assaulted boys (approximately 35% of the 229 convicted child molesters in the study) self-identified as homosexual; thus, approximately 30% (86% of 35%) of the male sex offenders who assaulted boys self-identified as homosexual. Now let’s compare this 30% to the percentage of self-identified male homosexuals in the general population. According to Wikipedia, 1.0%-1.6% of adult males self-identified as exclusively homosexual in random surveys worldwide. Even if we use the higher-end figure of 1.5% found in the most recent random survey in Great Britain (Doughty, 2012) as a reference point, we find that the percentage of convicted male child molesters who self-identified as homosexual in this study is 20 times as high (30% divided by 1.5%) as the percentage of males in the general population who self-identify as homosexual, thus demonstrating that this point is true and valid. Furthermore, studies using the more objective phallometric methods to assess the sexual orientation of convicted male child molesters have also validated this point (Marshall et al., 1988; Freund and Watson, 1992).

Using the results obtained by Freund and Watson (1992), Gagnon (2005) took into account some of the additional factors that can influence such research results and calculated that homosexual development would result in pedophilia six times as often as heterosexual development does. Thus, there is, in fact, a strong, demonstrable link between homosexuality and pedophilia among convicted male child molesters.

>Ch 5 § 116 The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.

That doesn't seperate church and state, it says that the state can't control church. Church can still control state.

>thinking turnbulls protections for religious freedoms will mean shit

lmao i wish i had that much faith in this socialist fuckwit. The same guy who refused to remove a law that allows you to fuck someone because you were "offended" is gonna sit and draft laws that protect peoples religious freedom? lmao. Youre better off saying no because whatever weak shit turnbull puts up will be steamrolled in the next shorten election

same

hang yourself faggot

>Then why do those benefits not SOLELY apply to those with children?
So couples can save up and get into a stable, single-income situation before having children.
Also, if the benefits applied only to couples with children, a pregnancy would be a financial risk since a stillbirth would mean that you wouldn't get any benefits.

>don't watch Talmud vision or the FM jew
>never hear about fags

Feels good lads

>Why do any two unrelated consenting adults have the right to have children?

ok it's time for people to stop replying to this braindead faggot

Some yes voting cunt just assaulted a former prime minister:

>unrelated consenting adults have the right to have children
If there are in a fertile relationship, they have the right, as in the can actually produce the kid. Without any scientific or economic intervention.

I'm so sorry to admit this, but I just simply hate gay people and don't want them to have any rights. I remember ten years ago there was an argument about having these gay prides and parades and most people were against it because people didn't want this to affect children. Now fast forward ten years and you have 8 year olds changing sex and getting hormone therapies. And remember how the fags said they'd never do anything with the children... Well, I hope society wakes up, and for all the gay people out there: stop over-exposing and bragging about your fetish or get gassed

I have very low faith in Turnbull, but absolutely zero faith in Shorten.

I mean, which hand would you rather lose, left or right? One's bad, one's worse.

Because homosexuality has no evolutionary benefits, and contributes nothing to future generations. And you already have legal rights through civil unions, you don't need marriage.

>Why do any two unrelated consenting adults have the right to have children?

You are gay. Why would you want a child?
Go do your homosexual thing.
If you want a child.
Maybe, just maybe you're bisexual?

That study was based on a retrospective review of the medical records of male sex offenders admitted to the Minnesota Security Hospital between 1975 and 1984. Apparently, 70% of the men abused girls, 26% abused boys, and 4% abused children of both sexes. (The paper is unclear in that it doesn't explain how perpetrators with multiple victims were counted.) The paper asserts in passing that "Eighty-six percent of offenders against males described themselves as homosexual or bisexual" (p. 83). However, no details are provided about how this information was ascertained, making it difficult to interpret or evaluate. Nor did the authors report the number of homosexual versus bisexual offenders, a distinction that the Groth and Birnbaum study (described above) indicates is relevant.

7% of millennials self identify as bisexual or gay:

prri.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/PRRI-Millennials-Web-FINAL.pdf

Using the fixated-regressed distinction, Groth and Birnbaum (1978) studied 175 adult males who were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were classified as "fixated;" 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals. Of the last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that "in their adult relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as well as with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men exceed their preference for women....There were no men who were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males..." (p.180).

Amen brother.

Why are infertile couples not denied marriage then?

At least you are honest.

I want to raise kids just like you do.

Other researchers have taken different approaches, but have similarly failed to find a connection between homosexuality and child molestation. Dr. Carole Jenny and her colleagues reviewed 352 medical charts, representing all of the sexually abused children seen in the emergency room or child abuse clinic of a Denver children's hospital during a one-year period (from July 1, 1991 to June 30, 1992). The molester was a gay or lesbian adult in fewer than 1% of cases in which an adult molester could be identified – only 2 of the 269 cases (Jenny et al., 1994).

In yet another approach to studying adult sexual attraction to children, some Canadian researchers observed how homosexual and heterosexual adult men responded to slides of males and females of various ages (child, pubescent, and mature adult). All of the research subjects were first screened to ensure that they preferred physically mature sexual partners. In some of the slides shown to subjects, the model was clothed; in others, he or she was nude. The slides were accompanied by audio recordings. The recordings paired with the nude models described an imaginary sexual interaction between the model and the subject. The recordings paired with the pictures of clothed models described the model engaging in neutral activities (e.g., swimming). To measure sexual arousal, changes in the subjects' penis volume were monitored while they watched the slides and listened to the audiotapes. The researchers found that homosexual males responded no more to male children than heterosexual males responded to female children (Freund et al., 1989).