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Redpill me on anarchism Sup Forums

Is it communism?
Also is it inherently jewish?

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It doesn't exist in the first place

It completely sucks fucking ass. Living in a squat during winter is one of the most miserable things I've ever experienced.

As anarchism is about free individuals coming voluntarily together to set the rules for themselves, it can be extremely parochial market economy, worldhugging socialism or any other combination of whatever beliefs you can imagine.

Basically lord of the flies.

how do you accomplish this with 7 billion people?

you don't, it's why it has never and will never work, much like commie shit.

Anarchism is not Communism.
Only Commies would say such a thing.
Anarchism is literally "without king."
[an] = without
[archon] = lord
no king
without master
That's all it means.
It's impractical and will never work on a larger level than a couple dozen people. I used to be a formal anarchist. I still have a soft spot for anarchism. The problem with it is that anarchism requires that you think through literally every decision you ever make. There's an energy cost for thinking and problem solving. You'd have to sit and ponder everything and the effects of your decisions. Most people can barely think of the effects of deciding to eat chicken or beef. Anarchism would take more thought than most are capable of and they would have to be naturally pensive people. Most people are sheep and need answer spoon-fed to them. Anarchism is impossible with humanity in its current state.
Anarcho-communism.
Those people are animals and should be hunted down and exterminated.
Anyone claiming that Communism is anarchism and vice versa is a Marxist and should be shot on sight.

Oh shit , is it still somehow nice though? Had a druggie aunt that used to live in some during the early 90s. I never got to ask her about it. Tell me more please :

99% of the world's population is going to die this century. That is how.

There is no anarcho-communism, there is no anarcho-capitalism, there is only anarchism.

Anarchism is pure chaos and lawlessness, Communism only works in small towns, and Capitalism works in huge societies.

8/8

It is freedom from hierarchy and is anti-Jewish.

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First- anarchy- make of this much abused word what you will. I’ve lived through a revolution where the police suddenly went AWOL for three days- and anarchy didn’t break out. People organised themselves- that’s what people do. So anarchy as ‘mob on the rampage’ is clearly misleading. People form networks. When these networks start oppressing others there is resistance. Anarchy is more a cry of liberation than a statement of revolution. It’s not a political creed, really, because for politics you need rules, or seem to, rules made by others and forced onto people who disagree with them. Anarchy is what happens when you make YOUR OWN RULES- and the less the better.

Fails everytime

Anarchism is not lawlessness you fucking moron dumbfuck, it is lack of hierarchy. There can be laws without hierarchy. I.e. law is "don't murder", if you murder someone then everyone else will stop you/punish you.

It's not a lack of hierarchy, it's a against (an) unjust rule (archo). There can still be voluntary hierarchies.

Anarchism is just the absence of government. However, most self identified anarchists are either anarcho-communists, and some are anarcho-capitalists. The reason there's more anarcho-commies and why you always see communists & anarchists supporting each other is because Marx, Lenin, and other communists believe in some retarded "worldwide workers revolution" which means the breakdown of law & order, revolution, and a period of anarchy followed by communism. According to them, communism is achieved in stages: Late stage capitalism>socialism>anarchy>communism

It's all degenerate garbage, idealism, nihilism, and ethnomasochism rolled up into one big clusterfuck of being too scared to tell people they're commies/marxists/Trotskyists, etc...Its all about hiding their true intentions under the pretenses of being "liberal", "leftist", or if they're feeling really edgy, "socialists/anarchists".

Long story short, they want to destroy society to either take over the world under one leftist government regime, or try some idealistic "no government, but everyone shares everything" crap.

Lot of different flavors of anarchy out there.
I'm the type of anarchist that doesn't recognize any authority over me, doesn't belong to any collective, no flag to bear, no cross to bare, I do no consent to be governed, I have zero respect for the law of the government but most laws are in line with my moral code so there is not much conflict with it in my life. I don't give anyone the fruits of my labor and I expect nothing from everyone, unless there is mutual consent and agreement from both parties and no one was forced through threat of violence. So yeah, I always have IRS problems, but fuck em I will die on my feet, not live on my knees. I guess I'm an anarcho-capitalist or a straight up black flag anarchist.
The red/black "anarchists" are the very confused ones. They claim anarchy but want a socialist government? Makes zero sense.
Here's a video I disseminated a lot in the last 5-10 years that explains my philosophy pretty well.
youtube.com/watch?v=muHg86Mys7I

Isn't this what pirates wanted? I seem to recall they formed an anarchist kind of society somewhere. But that failed too iirc

This right here. Anarchism is the level at which everything should be judge. Every law we make and every act that we pass we should ask are we moving closer to anarchy or farther away? It's our benchmark and we should seek a happy medium between no government/masters and a little government.

Anarchy much like communism will never work because of our human nature...

anarchism is a fairy tale for raging teenagers

>anarchy
>lawless
Pick one and only one

well well well. It is fairly complicated and basically a different sub-ideology of socialism, like social democracy, marxism etc.
1. Anarchism is against "negative property" - this means you can have your own private things, but means of production should be owned by the ones working there. - read Proudhon what is property.
2. Anarchism is against religion and the state - read Bakunin.
3. Anarchism after these baselines is then split in three groups. Egoists (read Stirner), Anarcho-communism (read Kropotkin) and Syndicalism (which is more like a strategy of having a mutualist society - read history books)

Today you have
Primitivists (people who want to live in caves)
Green anarchists (people who like Bookchin)
Insurrectionists (people who think that something good will come out of riots)

aaaand the rest just have discussions about whether anarcho-communism, syndicalism or mutualism is best and minor things such as whether musicians should be paid by the hour or per month.

Anarchism is a voluntary orderly society.

It is popular because losers who've never worked a day in their life who are starting to feel bad about it, would rather burn the system down than accept personal responsibility for anything in their weak, easy lives.

They are federalist. that means they are against states, but not local municipalities or regional administrations.
The Ancoms want their own local municipalities to be socialist, but they don't give two shits about how other municipalities are run.

basically in a place like the US they would want states to be replaced by a federation where the federation US would be a confederation.

this federation and confederation should not be able to impose anything on the local municipality, unless they want it themselves.
what they want is basically free trade and free movement between all municipalities, but as little regulations as possible in the federation and confederation.

Anarchists chimping out is responsible for Mussolini, Hitler and Franco.

Anarchism is not against religion.
The word "anarchism" does not refer to religion.
You're an ideologue who read a book one time and assumed it was all-encompassing.
Go fuck yourself, Commie.
We're all waiting for the day when it's open season on you cretins.

REEEEEE COMMIES GET OUT!

Anarchism, could only work with a strong belief in God and obedience to religious commandments, but without a formal church. As anarchists are mostly atheists, there is not much chance of it happening any time soon.

green anarchism (bookchin) is not against religion
at the same time the syndicalist movement in USA was not against religion, whereas the major anarchist thought in the rest of the world is against religion.

Bakunin (the main anarchist philosopher who was one of the people who started the International Workers Association) wrote many books against both religion and the state.

externally I'm a moderate libertarian constitutionalist

internally I identify as a anarcho primitive pacifist

I'm not doing propaganda here, I think people at least deserve to know what the fuck anarchism is about, since most people who call themselves anarchists haven't even read any books about anarchism, and think that squatting and rioting is going to change society somehow.

You're a fucking idiot.
The etymology of the word "anarchism" has nothing to say about religion.
You're making up your own divisions.
You have no respect for words, ideas or definitions.
Everything about you is false, lies or misdirection.
If I believed in God I would refer to you as Satan incarnate.
God, I loath you animals.
Making up your own definitions and then pretending like everyone else should bow to your made-up bullshit.
I wasn't joking when I said I'm waiting for it to be open season on you cunts.
I hope someone uses your skull as a cup.

Lol anarchoprimitive pacifist

There were a lot of them in north America once, how'd that work out for them?

Wrong.
You're making up your own definitions and hoping people will believe your nonsense.
This is why you lose and will always lose.
Because people don't like your bullshit.
If you try your revolutionary bullshit I'll hunt your kind down not just as a duty, but as a sport.
I'll make a necklace of your teeth.

NO RULES
NO LAWS
NO GOVERNMENTS

God Damn you could not figure that out!

commies aren't anarchists. they just use anarchy because people hate them and try to disassociate from themselves.

Talking about Anarcho-Communism is like talking about the political system in the Harry Potter universe.
It's completely fictional, irrelevant and not possible in the real world.

> lets say that all people are equal and nobody would be greedy
is just like
> lest assume that magic exists

This is not about a "word", it is about a school of thought.
Troll harder tho.
You could point out the mistakes of Durruti, Makhno, the Neo-Zapatist movement or something like that to try to make me butthurt at least.

they weren't really pacifist though. they fought with other tribes. but yea thats probably the closes thing there is to it. I know its not realistic thats why i hide it internally. It would be cool to have a commune where I could have a harem and stuff.

The original Israelites were anarchist. After Moses and Joshua died they only had Judges who judged the people based upon the Law (Torah). It worked for awhile but as you read they kept slipping up and doing evil. It says over and over again that "each man did what was right in his own eyes". Eventually as you read they asked Samuel for a King and rejected the judges and God. This is why I know Anarchism doesn't work because even with a solid foundation such as the Bible we'll still fuck up.

far right + far left = anarchy = oligarchy totalitarian rule.

/po/ is the far right for those who are radicalized.

I'm a legit nihilist and even I can't redpill you on idiocy. Just think of any reasonable argument against libertarianism and imagine trying to explain it to some emo faggot.

WRONG

And what do you call a lack of hierarchy? Anarchism. Stop projecting your lack of intelligence.

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>deserve to know what the fuck anarchism is about
just like this user explained anarchism just means without leaders.
Not more.
You just don't want to accept that, because "your" Anarchism is the most retarded form of Anarchism. Distributing wealth equally over all people without government and completely voluntarily.

>anarchism
>communism
I bet there's an american flag behind this post.

>Posts on a Laotian Salamander swap meet forum
>thinks he could ever have enough worth to females to pull 1
>et alone many

Don't you have your own communist revolution in Catalonia to worry about?

The school of thought to which you refer is called "Communism."
To conflate Communism with anarchism is disingenuous at best and flagrant lie at worst.
I fucking hate you animals, but you may just be a knuckle-dragging nigger.
You might be too stupid to understand what you're saying.
The net result is identical.
You drop names and make up your own definitions without ever - even once - looking at the etymology of one of the words you pretend to describe.
Again - you make up your own definitions and expect others to believe your obvious lies.
This is why you're reviled and this is why humans will delight in dealing with you appropriately.
pic related

Look at this cute retarded snake trying to defend his stupid compatriot. You all are really funny to observe.

They will flock to me cause I will have all the mud cookies

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OP is not my compatriot. Why are you so mean on an anonymous manchurian finger painting forum?

I dunno tbqh, I just hate americans for their stupidity and fatness. Nothing personal.

Anarchism is the homosexual agenda.

It requires every one on earth to be on the same page which is why it's completely fucking retarded.

The legit anarchists I've come across were literally the shittiest people I've ever met. There's nobody I trust less than an anarchist.

Capitalism doesn't work anywhere

Nope, read books instead of reading silly SJW blogs and interviews.
I never said I was revolutionary. Revolutions are shit and people die. It is not worth that many lives just to be able to have local autonomy - which anarchism basically is about. Now mutualism is that equal pay per hour thingy, anarcho communism is that "monies is bad" thingy.
My teeth aren't that nice tho, But my toenails would make a nice necklace. It would be rated 14/88

What is my form of anarchism?
I don't want wealth to be distributed equally, that is Marxist retardery.
I want everyone to be able to work without being exploited, expand all sectors of production, free trade, free movement, no tax. To cover the welfare the municipalities should own their own companies and use the profit for welfare, where there should be a private sector as well so people with good ideas can benefit from them, though they should pay the workers a fair amount.

it is strange how many people confuse anarchism with marxism.

Well it is argueable, both Bakunin and Stirner publicly said they weren't communists. Whereas anarco communism obviously is a sort of communism without marxist/leninist/maoist/etc. bullshit.
I drop names, yes because I have read their books. And I prefer studying things before commening on them.
Nice Viet-KingKong

Obviously.

without capitalism or communism, you wouldn't have your smartphone...

>t. Commie

Anarchism just means that you dont have a state that rules over you.

Anarcho Capitalism and Anarcho Egoism being the purest forms.

"Anarcho" Communism/Syndicalism/Leftymemeideologyism are barely anarchist because they would somehow have to rely on some higher power to "outlaw" capitalism.

Left Winger's cant be anarchists, because muh regulations.

>voluntarily together to set the rules for themselves
then people like me get guns and other followers and we kill you, or a buisness creates a gov't. Society cant function under anarchy.

You have yet to refer to the etymology of the word "anarchism."
You deliberate attempt to side-step is obvious.
I repeat:
You animals will be hunted down like the vermin you are if you attempt a revolution.
There are those of us who will do it for free.
Why?
Because you're death-dealing liars.
It would be like animal control putting down rabid dogs.

Stirner has some good points, and they are good to keep in mind.
such as the fact that people will want to leave any form of organisation or society that they do not themselves benefit from.

Capitalism isn't supposed to be outlawed, the fact is that if you have a product being sold by a workers owned company, you can sell the product for a lower price, since you don't have to pay anything to stockholders or CEOs.
Try looking up the cooperative movement of Europe. They are still here and basically dominate the Scandinavian agricultural market, because no one can have lower prices.

So you want me to tell about the etymology instead of the philosophical school?
The reason it is called anarchism is because the orignal philosopher (Proudhon) wanted to be edgy and said that he is an anarchist after he realised that we do not need a state, rather a federation. Is that better?
Also. I am not a revolutionary. All people who are actually revolutionary are in Rojava right now. All others are LARPers.

Wait.
You want me to do a basic Google search for you?
And read aloud the basic Google search you should be able to perform on your own?
Not having read anything above this post?
Holy fuck.
You're too retarded to do a basic search.
You're too lazy to open a new tab and just do a copy-paste and read it.
This is why everyone hates you.
You will kill people based on your intellectual poverty and laziness.
This is why you'll be hunted like the filth you are.
This is why I will help round you animals up for sterilization and disposal.
Fucking open a tab and perform a basic search.
If you can do that I'll have some respect for you.
But you won't.
Because you're a fucking Commie.
youtu.be/MXSCT2d7mqY

wat. you want me to write about the old greek play about some guy who didn't want a government?
That has nothing to do with the philosophical school.
The only reason anarchism is called anarchism is because of 1800's edgelords. Where it basically should be called libertarian-(socialist) federalism.

You might be dealing with some anger issues though.

>Capitalism without organized monetary system
People should talk about market economy since it works with barter also.

"Anarchy."
All you had to do was look up the word "anarchy" and discuss the etymology.
Why didn't you?
Because -
1.) You're a liar who will always avoid reality, fact and and clear definitions.
2.) You're a Commie who knows damned well that once you become clear you're open to criticism.
You're a liar.
You're disingenuous.
You advocate whole-sale death.
You defend killers and genocide.
And you can't even look up a fucking word in a new tab.

complete anarchism would lean to the far right if anything hence no government

Anarchy and anarchism is not the same.
Anarchy is when something has no government.
Anarchism is a school of thought and lots of sub-ideologies. 'cos people are like "my kind of socialism".
1. No, I clearly write about anarchism and I have clealy answered questions. I have stated what anarchism is about and what the different schools of anarchism is about.
Though I think marxism is retarded and causes starvation in the process of "collectivising" (or making everything state/party owned).
2. I am open to criticism. Though you are good at hurling insults, I haven't seen any valid critique.
I don't think I lie, though I know I don't know much. I know about ideologies and philosophy.
I try to be honest. I am again not trying to agitate or convince anyone here that anarchism is better or anyone should be an anarchist. I actually don't give two shits about what people believe in, though I do think that confederalism and autonomous municipalities would make peoples standard of living better.
I don't advocate death, quite the opposite. The insurrectionists basically make people opposed to anarchism by chimping out every chance they get.
I actually had to look up disingenous. Didn't know that word.

Also, Nietzsche was basically the Slavoj Žižek of the 1800's. A perverted basement-dweller who made up things in his mind about him being superior to others.
He basically ruined the nihilistic movement in Russia.

You did not go into the etymology of the word "anarchism."
Why?
Because either
A.) it hurts your position.
or
B.) you have no appreciation for the implications of examining the word and its root meaning.
I'm of the opinion that it's [B] - you're too insipid to fully understand the concepts attached to the words you're using.
You literally do not know what you're talking about.
You sound like you're in your early twenties. You might be a manchild of early thirties.
It doesn't matter.
You have yet to do one simple thing:
Examine the etymology of the word anarchism.
Your entire position is based on a lack of understanding the word you use.
This is why you're an animal.
You don't appreciate or understand the words you use.
And, yes, Commies fucking murder people whole-sale.
This is what Commies do.
You're a sheep following wolves.
You will receive no mercy.
If your fellow Commies don't kill you someone else will.
Enjoy your fate, beast.

You never read Nietzsche, don't pretend like you did.
Funny that you'll Ctrl+V Nietzsche next, but you can't do that with the word "anarchism."
You're a liar.
You're lazy.
You defend mass murder.
You're an animal.
If your kind goes full revolutionary, you will be treated like the animal you are.

Commies.
I used to be a leftist.
They betrayed everything I believe in.
There truly is no more adamant a believer than a convert.
youtu.be/FrICAt1sVnE

or because it was already stated in the thread that anarchism means to be without rulers, and it is common knowledge that it is against hierachy.

A common misunderstanding about anarchism is the viewpoint on authority. The earliest anarchist writers actually wrote that we need to get rid of all illegitimate authorities.
A legitimate authority is an authority that the majority of the people wants.
This is the reason why anarchists want people to stop voting for prime ministers or presidents, because if the majority of people stops voting for them, they will become illegitimate leaders.

This is why most actual anarchists accept the democratically elected leaders as longs as those have the majority vote.

I am in my mid 20's right now in fact.
I have examined it, though I prefer to read actual books, written by the actual thinkers, rather than small articles and blogposts.
The reason i can (I think) criticise both Lenin, Trotsky, Mao and Stalin, is because I have read some of their books and I have read about their actions. Mao have a few facts straight, but he is basically a power hungry tyrant, where as Stalin was a fundamentalist who believed every word of Hegel and Marx as if they were laws of nature.
Trotsky was a mass murdering psychopath who wanted to kill everyone who didn't agree with him. Lenin was a power hungry sociopath.

Well the commies like purging people who are also left wing as soon as they can't be used as useful idiots.

I read a little, but I found it incredibly boring.
I never defended mass murder. I think you are delusional.
Well hopefully there will never be a revolution. All that needs to be done to prevent it is to have the companies treat workers better.

i see... well i really can't say much about the topic in this thread, but i like both of you, the anarchist and you, americano. nice debate

It's the opposite of communism because it is the absence of government where as communism requires a heavily authoritarian government.

>I read a little."
So, you haven't read Nietzsche.
You're filth.
You claim to say that you understand Nietzsche enough to compare hi to a contemporary . . .
And you haven't read Nietzsche.
You're a liar.
You're disingenuous.
You defend mass murderers.
You're lazy.
You have yet to perform a basic search.
You can't even look up the word "anarchism" and discuss its etymology.
Since you're in your mid-twenties I'll go ahead and just remind myself that you know nothing of the world.
I was you once.
If you grow out of this phase you may find redemption.
If they go full revolutionary and you join -
Someone will hunt you down like the dogs you lay with.
If liberals get the bullet too just think of what awaits you.
You're a child who has yet to understand where he is or what he espouses.
You aren't aware enough to be embarrassed at what you do.

You repeat yourself, repeating something doesn't make it true.

what mass murderer did I defend?
Please point them out.
All i know of Nietzsche was from the books "dictionary of philosophy", "History of Western Philosophy", and some minor critiques of him made by others.

I am lazy. That is true.

You still repeat yourself instead of writing a proper response.

I actually don't know much, I already stated that. But I know what I know, nothing more, nothing less. But I know what anarchism is, and I have worked for seven years at an anarchist cooperative.

You were me? You sure?
I used to be religious, got kicked out because they thought I had sex before marriage ( I didn't)
I found a job at a place and there I found out about anarchism and the value of actually working instead of freeloading, where I study and try to listen to criticism, though it is hard to take seriously when someone keeps repeating that I defend mass murder etc.

I will grow out of this phase as soon as it doesn't give me food on the table.
They will only grow full revolutionary if the governments fail. Lots of people becoming anarchists is a symptom of failing authorities. Look at Syria and Mexico, the countries with the highest amount of actual anarchists as examples.

Good luck with the huntings I guess.
I don't care too much about liberalism. I don't live in the US.
I will embarrassed if I would feel bad about what I do. I don't feel bad about working. Or studying.

I am going for 10-15 mins, if thread dies I will be lurking later. But in 1 hour I have a stellaris run, so please give me your best critique instead of repeating yourself.

tell me what is wrong about rojava (which is bookchin-anarchism in practice, but has a psycho as a leader in exile)
Tell me what is wrong about platformism (makhno anarchism)
or tell me what was wrong about syndicalism.

They did plenty of mistakes, and it shouldn't be hard for you to come up with some valid criticism.

it is NOT goddamn communism and it's NOT jewish. period.
next question.

I must rescind my assertion that you have defended mass murderers. You have not expressly done this, but your defensive tone toward Commies makes it implicit. Your flag, reading diet and tone are all consistent with a post college douche bag who thinks being a Commie is edgy and might get him laid.
Communism has failed every time. We could talk about details, but it doesn't matter. I don't care and you don't care. If you really are the Commie you sound like you'll just end up with, "But it wasn't real Communism." At the tender age of twenty-whatever this might sound like a good rebuttal to you, but at my age you just sound like the same idiot I've heard a thousand time before your particular iteration.
And yes, I was you.
You are not unique.
You are not a snowflake.
There are thousands of you and I've heard your exact answers hundreds of times.
My repetition is to impress on you that Communism will be dealt with as the hostile and inhuman ideology it is. Commies will be dealt with like feral animals that have gotten out of control and need population control. If you're one of the animals in that bunch you'll just be another rabid dog.
Also, Communism doesn't put food on the table.
Real work puts food on the table.
If you have a non-government job it's real.
If you have a government job you're just another parasite.
An actual anarchist would see you are a tick to be burned off with the nearest cigarette butt.
I wish you luck in life.
Stop being a Commie.
Your bedfellows will turn on you.

so your argument is basically:
no anarchism cuz "muh goyim".
hmmm. got it.

You're conflating anarchism with Communism.
I think you're a Commie.
Go fuck yourself if so.

Just passing through.

Anyway, I just wanted you to know that you've convinced me to finally read Nietzsche. I read a lot of Classical philosophy, and so Nietzsche is generally outside my scope, but I have been meaning to give him a read. What are your thoughts on Sartre? Someone gave me a book of his and I still haven't read it...

you double nigger, I know WTF Anarchism IS. don't take your sexual frustration out on me just because you can't find a dick to suck on right now.
you said:
>Anarchism would take more thought than most are capable of and they would have to be naturally pensive people.
YEAH, it requires men to utilize higher brain functions.
>Most people are sheep and need answer spoon-fed to them.
thus "goyim" this is how kikes percieve non-kikes, and is the reason why.

>Anarcho-communism.
Those people are animals and should be hunted down and exterminated.
Anyone claiming that Communism is anarchism and vice versa is a Marxist and should be shot on sight.
Now, having called you "double-nigger" for 'sperging out on me. I'll take this moment to acknowledge the one valid point you DID make, and agree with you on it.

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Ah, well I must admit I only got a bachelor's degree so far, but I am saving up to get a bachelor's of physics instead and work up after that, since I made the unwise decision to study history, which can give me no productive job, where I won't be of much benefit to society other than being able to teach history.

I am not at all defensive about communism. My whole Latvian and Russian family was killed, where my great grandfather was the only one who escaped. They were communists, but not the "right kind".
I have in my life met many people who lived in the Soviet Union. You could have a mediocre living as long as you and your family members kept your mouths shut and you spoke Russian publicly.
Marxism has always failed, and as long as people believe in hegelian bullshit, they will fail.
The problem here is that people start believing in books more than trying to improve on what society we already have. This is why I am a federalist, because it is more "democratic" than representative democracy.
I like worker-owned cooperatives, since they can produce things cheaper and people don't get exploited.
I don't want to take anything from anyone. I want to build, and if anarchism is so great as I think it is, it will be able to outcompete capitalism.
But it requires hard work and that people don't sell out their businesses. ( now why hasn't that happened yet is a valid question, maybe ask that)

I know I am not unique, I am quite ordinary, like most other people.
Snowflakes are what makes anarchism look bad.

Well communism is mostly bad because of some people still insist that people will want to produce things for a state where they won't get any fruit of their own labour. It is basically slavery.
A quote from Bakunin is that socialism without freedom is slavery and injustice, freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice.

A rich society requires hard work, and now we are becoming more lazy than ever in the western world.

Sartre was a literal cuck. And a nihilist. And a post-modernist. I don't recall if he was a formal Communist, but he was certainly a degenerate and would've fit in well with such cunts. I read a little of him and don't know much, to be honest. As far as I recall the impression I got was that he felt like a victim and did little to rectify situations he didn't like. I would say you should read Sartre and form an opinion without much input from me.
Nietzsche's pretty cool.
I'd recommend The Gay Science and Ecce Homo. The Gay Science has a ot of poems and if you get the Kaufman translation it should have the original German on the opposite page so you can look up the words and get a little more out of the verses. I, personally, think he has a sort of humor about him that is brutal in its honesty. It's well worth noting that he wasn't a nationalist, he was a total beta when you think about his "love life" and he lived when the age of God was coming to an end. He was trying to forge a vision of ethics and philosophy at a time when the west was facing its first real glimpse of its own death. In some sense you are living in the after image of that first death throe. We haven't even lived the real death yet. The hyper left is just the natural self-immolation impulse of an animal that knows it's going to die and says to itself, "fuck it; let's go for broke." Anyway, Nietzsche foresaw this and his writings are largely about what we're experiencing now.
Nietzsche was also a little crazy.
And his sister was a Nazi.
Get good translations that aren't touched by his sister.
Ecce Homo has a real bravado about it.
It's a fun read and you might want to start out with something fun.
Cheers to good reading.

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Communism brings food to the table as soon as there has been established a black market, where people sell food illegally. This has happened in all Marxist countries, and it is good that humans naturally trade.

I don't have a government job. I used to work at an anarchist bar, now in construction.

I talk with people who call themselves anarchist, and mostly we don't argue, but tell what school we follow, and from that we know where each other stand. With kids being edgy and having the idea of insurrectionism or such ideas, I don't bother having a discussion, unless I would want to argue for a whole evening.

Well I don't cooperate with communists. But I know that a lot of anarchists do in the more liberal countries, where in the more socialist countries they work with "capitalists" or libertarians.

I wonder what your aching vagina smells like.

I haven't read much Sartre, I know he liked whine and tried to apply individualism to Marxism somehow.

>I like worker-owned cooperatives, since they can produce things cheaper and people don't get exploited.
This is standard issue Marxism, guy.
First you say you're not a Commie and then you say you believe in the Communist ideals.
Good God, you're a child.
You confuse and conflate things without knowing what you're crossing and mixing up.
You have no grasp of fundamentals.
Hopefully you'll learn what it means to "go to the roots" some day.
Good luck in life.

>I'd recommend The *Gay* Science and Ecce *Homo*.
yeah, figures a foggot like you would recommend Gay Homo shit. Go choke on your black rubber dong.

No. I don't think that anyone should sieze the means of production.
I think that it is fair that I get paid my share of the profits of my company.
I don't think that people should work in "collective farms" as in the soviet unions, this is unproductive. But when every worker at a local branch of a company gets more for working more, and more for working better. Then you logically work more and better. Here we don't have to pay for bosses or pay for stockholders. We work for ourselves.
Yes we live in a capitalist country. Yes we need money and food on the table.
I never said I wanted everyone to do the same as me, that is the point of anarchism.
I want people to work where they want to work, I don't want to force people to work like i prefer to work. That is retarded.

If people were forced to work in cooperatives, like the one I work at, then people would obviously not like it, because you have to chose it.
If I didn't like it I would work at another workplace, but frankly I get paid more here than if I worked as a teacher in a high school, because we don't have to pay for any higher ups.

I know that anarchism has some similarities to communism, but so has almost any ideology. Marxists believe in that people should get paid higher for having higher educations, so does social democrats and liberalists, but that doesn't make them Marxist.

it is because Ecce Homo came out in 1888

I won't apologize for reading good books.
If you need the approval of others to like things based on certain words then you're a weakling.
Go fuck yourself - if you have the strength to do so.

>I think that it is fair that I get paid my share of the profits of my company.
Unless you have ownership in the company you have no share of the profits.
>I know that anarchism has some similarities to communism
No, it doesn't.
Commies claim this with no basis other than their naked and unfounded assertions.
Your books are just blind assertions made by fools.
And you're still mixing and matching things that don't belong together.
You sound like a kid because you don't know what you're talking about.
I suppose only age can help you with your bald ignorance.
Good luck with that.