This pic proves that Libertarians are the intellectual infants of the political world

This pic proves that Libertarians are the intellectual infants of the political world.

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Okay commie

All communists should be skinned alive and fed to dogs

what is consent huh?

I have a choice to provide my labor and to whom. I will sign a contract detailing the exchange of my labor for goods and/or services and I will sign this contract under my own free will

I have no choice when it comes to taxes. Taxes are taken under the threat of jail or loss of property. I was not around when taxes were codified into law.

>The Libertarian is a strange animal, when confronted with reality he just shrivels and hissels "muh commie" and goes back into his snake lair

Go start a business and get the oh-so-big part of the cake you lazy faggot.

why are you crying bro? i just took like 5 dollaroos out of your wallet dont be such a bitch

>free will
AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHHAHAAHAHA

*inhales*
HA

dumb commie

I don't get it. Why doesn't the person just do the labour on behalf of themselves and not the entrepreneur? People can't be that dumb can they?

In one case it's a voluntary contract but in the other it's involuntary. How is that hard to understand?

>ooga booga

seize the wealths from the rich people pussies.

you won't because you're pussies. go shoot a billionaire. you won't. pussies.

someone make the same pic but with the big bubble saying "greece's GDP" with a tiny bubble inside saying "greece's GDP after paying denbts"

Cool argument bro.

You think a Greek of all people would understand the choices in working but I guess you guys instead choose which taxes, if any, to pay

Slavery in the past in occasions was voluntary because of how society was organized.
You can be forced to "voluntarily" sign up and agree with tons of shit, just look how guilible children are, the funny bit is you think you're far different, even funnier, children also think they can "choose"

So you're saying society should be about conflict rather than personal sacrifice and cooperation?

Your ideals are shit.

That makes no sense whatsoever.
You pulled that out of your ass.

Because people don't like to be paid in sticks and stones when there's already a big factory down the street. Nor do they like to be beaten with a bag full of doorknobs when the friendly merchants fail with the first technique.

>LTV

Oh brother here they go again with "surplus value".

How do you know what the objective value of an object or service is brother?

1. Pay debt
2. [Citation needed]
3. Source? Date? Method? Sample size?

Lol, exactly. Theft is perfectly fine if that guy does it. But if that guy does it, it's really bad.
Understand?

>Turk Intellectuals

back to KNE autist

...

Come alone to fight me and my whole town.
You won't, because you're a pussy.

Libertarians have a Death Star? Is it purely recreational?

laughable gang of retards
btw your graph is crap. 2/3 of all income is labor income and only 1/3 is capital ("entrepreneurship")

No arguments, typical useless worm.
The point is how libertarians are dumb bricks

If you do not have free will, why are you answering exactly?

This is what you understood?
Jesus fucking christ you people are dumber than I thought

Not an argument.

But that's how you reply to a non argument.

I'm just asking a question. I'm trying to understand what exactly are you arguing?

Please answer.

DESU the most delusional logic I've seen comes from Sup Forums or trump voters. And I'm no liberal

>b-but free will

Christ you're all dumb shits.
Before the "dirty lefties" fought for your right to have a weekend off work, 8 hour instead of 16, worker's rights you fucking name it.
Before ALL that, you still had FREE FUCKING WILL™ to """""voluntarily"""" get fucked by an employer because those were your fucking options.

>posts graph completely made up on ms paint
>"see, if we could just get together and steal investments and ruin our economy, we would be twice as rich!"
Have you thought about getting the data on countries which hurt entrepreneurship and investments to see whether the workers get a pay raise or not? This could be easily empirically settled. We would see all the anti capitalist countries who stunt companies having amazing standards of living, while all the free market first world countries would obviously be shitholes. Oh wait, it's precisely the opposite.

its still theft

WRONG.

I'll try to explain it in this neat pic.

Hope you enjoy it. Feel free to correct my english and reproduce it as much as you want.

Hahaha. kys commie shit. Pay denbts

Corrected a typo

lolbertarians are what republicans use to keep promoting their garbage policies. Lolbers rev up the freedumb-seeking public, while the republicans end up being what they(we) get.
It's like the eternal dream appeal of socialism that the democrats use for their constituents

>Like, dude, I sit on my ass all day smoking weed and jerking off and make almost, like, nothing, dude. Capitalism is a failed system.

What town?

FTFY

I know a ton of people who extract value from companies instead of contribute towards it. But it's mainly in the corporate world.

I'm aiming for 250k next year myself.

SHALL

How do you calculate the total value produced by my labor? By what fucking method do you determine how much, say, working in a field for eight hours is truly worth?

which shows how wasteful are with money and how much more they make they don't need that sit forever in the banks and doesnt help the economy

That's definitely how it is in their mind

pointless drivel
keep focusing on some stoners
Good observation desu

Glad you also agree the "free choice" is a meme in economic/politics

Ignore the pic, just a dirty leftie propaganda

I'm sure before all those in pic, the """""""""Free Will Inc""""""""" was doing great

of course, since economy is distorted by gov.

But in order to debunk your marxist theory of value consider the following:
> 1 bottle of water (needs less work to produce it) = $1
> can of coke (needs more work to produce it) = $1

It looks just liike if the value of a product was determined by supply/demand law and not the amount of effort used to produce it.
>This really activates my armadillos

>keep focusing on some stoners
99% of all modern day communists are 15-25 year old stoners. They're your bread and butter, olivenigger.

>which shows how wasteful are with money and how much more they make they don't need that sit forever in the banks and doesnt help the economy

Well, it's other people's money basically. It's really sweet.

Hah.
That tells more about you.

Just think how lefties always view everyone from center-left to far-right as all nazis, because they get all their info from their safe spaces, just like you, who believes all lefties are stoners.

I know this won't change your perception, just saying.

>your labor

It's your employer's labor. He bought it from you.

Also, daily reminder that lolbertarians are (((controlled opposition)))

>Hah! Look at this guy over here, believing what he sees with his eyes and hears with his ears! Doesn't he even blindly worship a wholly discredited political and economic theory from the 19th century that's led to the mass murder of tens or hundreds of millions of people for literally no gain? Hah. The fool.
>*spits olive pit into the street*

I know, capitalists love sweet drinks.

You're thinking WITHIN the capitalist framework though.

In a socialist framework everything is much much cheaper.

>b-but much x country that tried socialism
>"it's never real socialism"

Just like other countries that have tried capitalism and failed weren't real capitalism?

They were socialist, and they failed.
It *is* difficult, I don't advocate socialism right now, I advocate in investigating and to try to incorporate slowly and safely socialist economic policies.

Source? Most peoples labor doesn't seem that valuable.

Maybe I'm retarded but I still don't get what that image is saying.

>says the most capitalist country in the world

(free market capitalism) is what you get when there is no gov intervention. So yes, there was capitalism in pre-statist societies, and it worked very well. For instance, the whole united states was created without taxation until 1913 (ooops you didn't know that fact, did you?) That's how you know it works. But it worked because they were all whites.

>what is the United States Naturalization Law of March 26, 1790?

> be corporate slave
> be homeless or gamble on it
> be born with money

> "choices"

Get BTFO in one image

[sound of rotor blades in the distance]

Are you saying before 1913 there weren't any taxes?

>I own that
No, the workers own that.

>if you're not a libertarian you're a commie
kys yourself

I'm sorry, when did the workers take out a business loan and invest their own money into buying the machines that manufacture the product?

> "bought"
> penalty for refusing to be someone's slave is homelessness and death

No, the united states gov was funded by tariffs. The IRS was created the same year as the FED.
>What a cohencidence.

Did the workers provide the machinery, the materials, the fuel, the premises? Did they shoulder any of the risk associated with the running of the business?

Do you understand that the workers are free to create their own company at any time? If it's such a no-brainer, why don't they do it?

> "business loan"
> given to people born with money already and a gambling addiction with greed to boot

> credit rating

www.rawstory.com/2017/04/a-clinical-psychologist-explains-how-ayn-rand-seduced-young-minds-and-helped-turn-the-us-into-a-selfish-nation/

unvis.it/rawstory.com/2017/04/a-clinical-psychologist-explains-how-ayn-rand-seduced-young-minds-and-helped-turn-the-us-into-a-selfish-nation

>"Free"
> yet implies making money is a skill/virtue

If it's so easy why laud them for it with orders of magnitude more cash? You people are literally insane. Total double think.

Even cells know to corporate for the mutual good.

What know what they call it when they don't? Cancer.

You're a goddamn human ringworm.

Lmfao you don't have to be born into good money to get a loan. This is why you will always be poor, enjoy! Tell me though, why haven't you refuted my previous point?

communiggers = pussies

Sorry friend, I've no idea what you're trying to put across. All the best, though; I'm off to catch some Zs.

>142380781
>there's no such thing as consent

Sure thing, mate

>doing labor and selling product on your own
>average around $1 an hour
>someone else comes along and says he's organized a larger system that brings in large amounts of money and he is willing to pay you $10 an hour to do just part of the labor you were doing before
You have three options here:
1) Continue doing more labor on your own for less.
2) Exchange your labor for more money.
3) Learn how to organize labor and succeed in managing everything from gathering materials, overseeing workers, contracting sales, and distributing product.

That is a damn good picture

I guess you are so shocked that you stopped posting and started researching this :)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Federal_taxes_by_type.pdf

YES. AMERICANS KEPT 100% OF THEIR EARNINGS BEFORE 1913.

>What a redpill, eh?

unions didn't make the 8 hour workday or the weekend, ford did

Communists are so fucking retarded. If you are capable of creating work for yourself you should do it. If you aren't you should be happy that someone who is actually smart wants you to work for him. You are not smart enough to do anything of value therefor you are a "wageslave" aka in the top 0,00001% of the richest people to have ever lived. Fucking idiots. You deserve to be gassed for how ungrateful you are for what you have.

Why don't you go make a bunch of money then

Just go do it

Who do you employ?

Gosh darn it Greece, you'd think a country would learn...

Your non argument is hinting towards doing nothing all day as an option. Not working in a society should be viewed with nothing but disgust. Go read your ancestors writtings you idiot. Socrates would tell you to go kill yourself.

kys commie

Whatever faggot.

>surplus value extracted from your labor
If you aren't paid adequately, leave your job you faggot.

This, at least lolbertarians respect ownership and enterprise.

I fixed it a little

>managing the enterprise doesn't justify a reward
>every single socialist country has salaried managers directing its public enterprises

Almost as if directing workers was also a socially useful work deserving a reward... Almost.

So why does this surplus value seem to disappear when communists take control?

>be self-employed
>you're oppressing yourself

>labor has value by itself

Well, you couldn't prove him wrong, commie.

I think that they're on average actually the smartest political demographic.
Libertarianism itself is of course retarded, but smart people being retarded about politics is the norm not the exception.

daily reminder