Fascism's defeat

Why does fascism fail/get pummeled militarily every time?

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Because any system of government that disenfranchises a large enough percentage of its population is inherently unstable. All autocracies will fail eventually - either rebirthed with a new ruling class, attacked by an external force, or through advancement to a stable representative system.
Stable, non-corrupt government must at least provide the appearance of acting with the approval of the masses. Shit is basic.

Fascism and National Socialism is and always will be a temporary reactionary movement to fight fire with fire against Communist/Marxist authoritarianism. Once communists are physically removed, then it is safe for a society to return to more conservative/libertarian modes of their society.

It is not supposed to be a long term solution contrasted with Marxs view of "true socialism" or a communist utopia.

Brazil was never Integralist and Kuomitang China = Taiwan, still very alive.

So it's a "5 years tops" kind of thing?

No, can definitely last long than that. But it's unlikely that a fascist regime can remain stable enough to last beyond a generation. A new autocratic regime could usurp a previous one but I wouldn't count that.

Are you fucking high? RoC is a functioning constitutional republic.

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Fascism is a means to restarting and cleansing to begin again
Fascism is the Phoenix
It's the boiling point

Because it's an offshoot of socialism.

The problem with classical liberal/libertarian societies is that they fall victim to communist subversion via free speech and cuckservatives compound the issue and slowly give way to leftists demands and do not protect their culture/society.

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Von den Jüden und ihren Lügen

None of those countries were Fascist except Italy.

Except no fascist regime collapsed because of social upheaval so you're wrong.

Republic of China wasn't fascist

Yeah so when commies are a threat a state should go fascism for a bit to purge commies. But it's also incapable of sustaining itself. So how long after starting fascism should you revert back to democratic republic? Longer than 5 years or shorter?

Just no. This is fucking retarded. How many societies with stable democracies have jumped to marxist regimes? Revolutionary era Russia was a cluster fuck. Vietnam was a colonial puppet that probably would have veered towards a more open / capitalist revolution if the US hadn't told them to fuck off because muh Frogs. Cuba was a dictatorship under Fulgencio Batista. This is absolute retardation. Is this some ancap stupidity? Ancaps need to GTFO.

And we would still be fascist if we stayed neutral.

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Dunno cus some autists started a giant fucking world war?

Same topic every week.

Saged

>implying democracy in itself isnt inherently a marxist concept.

The dictators were insane and brutal. Basically if you took what Sup Forums believes and applied it to the real world.
> Genocide everywhere

Well, aren't they still in power?

If you want to stick with governments that are purely defined as fascist rather than autocratic right wing, then you don't have a large sample pool.
Among fascist countries, Falange controlled Spain absolutely counts.

RoC is state managed capitalism.

>ancient greeks were marxists

wew lad

Approval of the masses is a catalyst to their own demise.

see this ...

How am I supposed to respond to autism this advanced? As futile as trying to teach calculus to a fucking chicken.

it's in the nature of a fascist to crave communist cock. There's a reason why German women loved BBC (big bolshevik cock) after Berlin fell.

No fascist regime has ever lasted beyond the death of its first leader, so at maximum you're looking at a generation raised under fascism, and no more.

Also they were brutally authoritarian. There will always be LARGE populations of people who will be like.
> "Fuck this shit, this man is insane.
> "Yeah, why are we listen to him again?
> Then, boom. The fascists get their shit pushed in.

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Fuck off antifa shill

You know nothing of history.
Get off your 2d political compass.
Fascist and NatSoc societies are created for the sole purpose of preserving a said nations culture and identity and fighting International Communism/Jewry.

How did fascism fail in Chile? Doesn't Chile still benefit from policies made from that era?

Basically this. Again, I think it would be worth examining the larger pool of right wing autocracies since the sample pool of true fascist movement governments is small.

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Franco died in his bed surrounded by everyone he loved. Literally went to heaven in 1st class.

Being overthrown or invaded doesn't count as failing you stupid cunt

>chile 74-90 fail

And Spain proceeded to move towards a democratic government literally as soon as he died. Fascism is not a sustainable system of government.

Well that's a disingenuous argument, most of these failed as a result of the second world war being lost by the axis powers, Nazi Germany would still be here to today, Nazi Europe in fact a Nazi world would be a reality right now if it wasn't for their defeat in world war 2. Also, many of these failed as a result of failed revolutions. Please go shill somewhere else.

user you have to look at the flag before replying to a post.

>It doesn't count, even though it was the disenfranchisement that got us overthrown, and the need to unite against an external threat that got us invaded
Imagine being this deluded.

>lose the Spanish civil war
>w-why does facisim los-
shut the fuck up idiot.

>nazi germany would have been around today
How do you know?

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Lost power to a democratic referendum. Would surely have collapsed sooner if Pinochet had died.

Stop including Portugal in this pic you stupid mouthbreathing piece of shit nigger. It makes you look unintelligent and uninformed. KYS.

True freedom loving people elect/mandate their leaders into fascism for a short while to physically remove commies.

Then the will of the people asserts itself again as their leaders understand freedom can once again be reinstated.

Liberalism breeds nothing but complacency for commies to come in and invade said nation.

Sure as hell makes monarchism look attractive.

Give no room for moral relativism. Morals are not wishy washy. Name one thing modern "conservatives " have conservative. They play defense in politics and are nothing more than appeasers.

>Nazi Germany would still be here to today

A cold war between the USA and NatSoc Germany would have ended in nuclear holocaust for us all.

The historical problem with Fashism has been localisation. Individual countries never stood up to Big Money. There needs to be a global reactonary cultural shift, but all the modern alternative idologies are really a reaction to the ones propped up by Big Money, not an entity on ther own.

Spain and south america functioned great under fascism.

*What have conservatives" conserved?*

>Liberalism breeds nothing but complacency for commies to come in and invade said nation.
Fucking retard. How many stable republics / democracies have transitioned to actual communism? Literally zero. How many right wing dictatorships / monarchies transitioned to authoritarian communism? Literally every communist state that has ever existed.

>Every time
You mean literally one time.

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Franco was a reactionary monarchist. The only thing he wanted was the restoration of the monarchy after his death, and that happened.

But that wasn't real fascism! We've never seen real fascism!
And by the way, in Spain it worked very well.

Jesus fucking christ. It doesn't matter how fantastic you think their authoritarian shithole was under that form of government - if the government can't last past a single generation, then it fails. If literally zero fascist governments last past a single generation, then the ideology is inherently flawed.

Seems like they get stagnant with they same bullshit they push, hmmmm? Maybe they need more Progression.

*If you had actually helped during the war instead of being a burden
FTFY

It's 2 now

to be fair, germany had allies too

>The only thing he wanted was the restoration of the monarchy after his death, and that happened.
And now little Felipe gets to wear some very fancy clothes. But it's still a fucking republic.

>germany had allies too

And they were all a joke except Japan.

Juan Carlos lied and pretended to be more falangist than he really was since Franco thought his dad was a cuck and refused to restore him.

Gee, just takes one dude lying to some crazy fuck on his deathbed can result in the end of a government. Seems like something we should try again, just for old times sake. Fuck. Off.

are they ever gonna add the antifa flag to that pic?

"muh constitution" cuck detected

How about the weimar republic getting overthrown by communist bolsheviks during and after ww1.

How about every single western democracy thats been pumped with marxist thought in their schools, media and governments? (Sweden,Germany,France,Italy?)

The reason why right-wing nationalist uprisings always fail is because they are the main enemy of the globalist jews.

Economic Nationalism is a threat to the globalist hivemind. They want to kill nation states and the very notion of nationalism and a nation sustaining itself with its own resources and not relying upon jewish finance and banks in trade.

>If literally zero fascist governments last past a single generation, then the ideology is inherently flawed.
There were very few fascist governments in history, and they got wiped out in a war.

You sound like a communist

>How about the weimar republic getting overthrown by communist bolsheviks during and after ww1.
Doesn't even merit a response.
>How about every single western democracy thats been pumped with marxist thought in their schools, media and governments? (Sweden,Germany,France,Italy?)
No. None of those governments are marxist. I don't care how broad you make the definition of Marxism to suit your stupid fetish for retarded forms of government. Not a real argument.
>The reason why right-wing nationalist uprisings always fail is because they are the main enemy of the globalist jews.
Ah. Blame the Jews. Always.
>Economic Nationalism is a threat to the globalist hivemind. They want to kill nation states and the very notion of nationalism and a nation sustaining itself with its own resources and not relying upon jewish finance and banks in trade.
Kill yourself.

I wasn't arguing for fascism you autistic sperg.

Oh Booohooo. Globalism is the future.

Jews.

RoC and Spain for sure. Then add all the right wing authoritarian states and juntas. The maxim provided above definitely applies.
Also fascist states thrived on riling up their citizens against an external threat, so blaming the war that they fucking started for their demise is a shit argument.

this.

fuck britain

Muh lines and artificial indentityeh.

Gee I wonder who could be behind this post

>Invades Poland
>"Why are you starting a war britbongs?"
Nah dude.

It took the whole world to defeat National Socialism. Essentially, it had liberated all nations within its boundaries of debt-slavery and international Jewry. It was the most powerful economic, military, and political ideology the world had ever seen, and the kikes could not let it flourish.
We defeated the wrong enemy.

>RoC
Don't know what that is
>Spain
Not fascist
>right wing authoritarian states and juntas
not fascist, as you seem to sort of admit yourself
> fascist states thrived on riling up their citizens against an external threat
Yah, cuz communism and democracy don't do that either. And the thread doesn't have to be external. At the time, fascism rallied people against communism, which was a very real and immediate threat.
> so blaming the war that they fucking started for their demise is a shit argument.
This is totally moronic. You might blame the particullar governments of Germany and Italy for making poor strategic decissions, but not the ideology as a whole. You'r pretty much implying that if any country had a fascist government, even say Mongolia or Moldova, they would start going to war with their neighbours.

Rude

Nowhere in history has any of that happened. Stop getting all your info from vidyah games and movies.

RoC is Republic of China, lead by Chiang Kai-Shek and then nationalist party.

It also wasn't fascist, either unless anyone ostensibly to the right of Commies is automatically labeled such.

"Todo atado y bien atado"

Finally...an ally in this thread filled with cuckery

>forgetting the one state that fascism gets almost all of its inspiration from, a state that stood strong for over a thousand years
How convenient

is joke man. i know history. not that i ever learned anything about it in school.

>Strong

Yeah, that's highly questionable.

Axis: Lost 1 war after nearly conquering the planet

RoC: Became an economic powerhouse while their rivals starved

Spain: Won the war

Portugal: Never had a war

Chile: Second highest GDP per capita In South America

Brazil: Part of a ruling coalition

>nigger

more like begging to be castrated

It was the most powerful nation on the planet while it stood, absolutely nobody could compete with it for a thousand years.

>Liberated
>Poland
>Czechoslovak
>Belgium
>Denmark
>Greece
>Ukraine

Nope.
>When in doubt, just blame the Jews. The answer eternal.

It seems like society goes in cycles, though the time it takes can vary. Libertarianism is subverted and abused by communism, which is driven out by fascism, which cools back down into Libertarianism when the threat is removed... Then the commies creep back in and start the cycle again.

>Libertarianism is subverted and abused by communism
Stupid meme. Communist states boiled over from oppressive regimes. Name a republic that transitioned to a communist regime. Pro-tip: you literally can't.

As long as it takes to drive out the commies. After the threat is removed, you can enjoy Libertarianism for as long as it takes for the commies to regroup.

technically spain did not fail
the regime did not end by failing, it transformed itself into what spain is today tbqh

The Empire was highly unstable politically. Especially by the Third Century.