I'm a diehard AnCap with race realist and nationalist views and im stuck in the crossroads

I'm a diehard AnCap with race realist and nationalist views and im stuck in the crossroads.

Am I more likely to teach lolbergs to accept race realism and nationalism, or convince NEETsoc to not be totalitarian dicks?

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the NAP is based in circular logic

What's more stupid - ancap or communism?

I don't know, but what I do know is that only rural and suburban retards voted for Trump.
All the high IQ city people voted for Hillary.

t-thanks guys.

Your AnCap ideology is a meme that only works if you'd have people with an IQ of 120 and above... similar to communism. Since this is not the case, they system will always fail in the long run. That's why people got always terminated that didn't fit in.... and even that didn't make the system work.

Your ideological ideas won't work if your population is too stupid to comprehend them. Hence, totalitarianism is the way to go if you want to make everyone happy. More individual freedom only benefits these with highest IQ, only the most capable profit while the rest suffers.

Communism doesn't work even if you all have above 120 iq

It does work with smart people, because they will figure out ways to make money off everything. This way anything can be privatised.

If someone is making profit, it's not communism you mong.

Yes it does work with highly intelligent people and I say that as a NatSoc. But since you can't have only intelligent people in the country, the system automatically fails. The moment a relevant amount low IQ people no longer understand why so much stuff/taxes are taken from them to fund other people, they will start to riot and fuck shit up.

Only the intelligent will keep such a system alive and there simply are not enough them around.... especially when the start of communism always also starts by culling the intelligentia.

wow it' almost as if everyone believed the same things and unquestionably followed the same principles, we wouldn't have much less social strife. WEIRD HOW IDEOLOGY DO THAT

I didn't proof read that post, but you get my point

Kill yourself you collectivist commie Borg.
Collectivists eat shit.

>AnCap
>nationalist
You really don't understand anything do you?

That's retarded, higher IQ people would understand best how to compete for scarce resources.

Abolishing private property doesn't work ever. You can't build society without property.

Nations are not Nation-states. Just look up a definition of the word "nation"

this

You seem to misunderstand. The right propaganda focused on these high IQ people will work wonders. The extremely low IQ people simply won't understand communist propaganda, they are simply too stupid for it. Looking at niggers in the US should tell you everything. Think they could be pushed towards a higher cause? Maybe pushed to the frontlines as cannon fodder but that's it.

Given the right propaganda, high IQ people would be able to "force" themselves to get rid of things like private property believing/understanding it is for a higher cause, i.e. safety and property for all. The nigger would go "fuck dat shit mayne" and start killing people... and in order to keep such low IQ people at bay, communism always became a totalitarian police state with labour camps.

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To have borders that aren't just people's property requires goons declaring lord-hood over the property of every person within a region. Otherwise people go wherever they please so long as they're not fucking with people or people's property.

Read the flag dipshit. Not my problem mods are retards who can't make a standard 'A'.

how do you imagine creating an anarcho-capitalist society that is ethnically white, nationalist and NOT authoritarian?

>ancap using the SS ruins
HAHAHAHAHAHAH man you really can't make this shit up. I swear there is just so many thedonald retards here along side fucking /x/ its unbelievably shitty.

And I'll pay those goons to keep you out of my convenants property borders.

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>covenant
Good luck having every property owner in a region agreeing to the same terms commie. Most people aren't Borg hiveminds like you.

End your life commie.

so, anarcho-capitalism is feudalism.

like everyone with a brain always knew.

Why would I join a community if they don't share my views on immigration? That's just dumb senpai.

It's kinda like feudalism.

You can do that - if each and every property owner down to the last man explicitly agrees with you, fucking great. They don't have to let anyone use their property they don't want using it. Good luck!

it is, in effect, just like feudalism. Instead of a lord/duke/king/whatever you'd just have a CEO.

It's nothing like feudalism, which was the subjugation of regional populations by violent warlords. Nobody is violently subjugating anyone with normal private property relations.

Read Julius Evola and stop being a capitalist Jew shill.

>Nobody is violently subjugating anyone with normal private property relations
wut is debt

Yeah I agree, it's a lot like feudalism, but the CEO rules by the consent of his customers, and profit, rather than his "Divine right" to rule.

You take on debt or you don't at your own discretion. You are not metaphysically compelled to take out loans - you're just a dipshit and do it anyway.

Take the PaleoLibertarian pill. It's small government Nazism

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolibertarianism

I am Paleo my dude.

>the CEO rules by the consent of his customers, and profit, rather than his "Divine right"
in the end, it makes no difference. Someone owns an area, an "estate" so to speak, and if you're a poor fag and want to eat you'd have to pay for the use of said land (holy shit it's totally not like taxes it's.. it's.. v-voluntary!) and seeing as you can't pay upfront you'll have to "borrow" the fee from said lord, sorry -owner, and then pay that off and keep paying rent as long as you wish to eat. Debts not paid in full when you die, can then be passed on to your children because that's the terms in the contract. But hey, it's... voluntary... you decide, if you want to eat that is.

who needs slavery when you have poverty.

>it is totally up to you if wish to eat or not, and/or feed your children should you so wish
coercion of circumstance is totally not forcing anyone.. oh no, it's all voluntary and shit.

see

>every space on earth is owned, and there's no such thing as competition which forces sellers of any good (including loans) to lower their prices
wew
nelly
lad

>nature oppresses me xD
Fucking commies.

NatSoc's totalitarian dickery tends to have targets. I don't just mean in the scapegoats sense, I mean in the sense that they're specifically trying to meddle in the economy. Since they are rather inevitably pro-growth, a capitalist can function in a fascist system by offering to the state what the state wishes to see done, and the state will then rule lightly on that business as long as its sector of the market appears to function well. However, this light rule still represents a central planner guiding gently rather than roughly, and as such it will still produce eventual disalignments of the market.
By teaching the NatSocs to moderate on the economy, you still install gentle central planning.

The reward for convincing reasonites to protect the culture that founded them looks better, but I don't know how hard to achieve it would be.

yeah, teh gommies...

good luck finding estate that is not owned.. so, are you moving to Liberland anytime soon?
liberland.org/en/about/

Most of the U.S. isn't owned. The VAST majority of Canada isn't. Most of the fucking earth isn't - it's just declared the magical property of state goons. Kill yourself you commie dipshit.

There's land in my country that you can claim ownership of for free right now, acres and acres of it.

Communism is a totalitarian idea incompatible with human action and human nature. Ancap is just the logical consequence of using libertarian ethics and libertarian justice models. Autarchism is also compatible with different models of social organization via private contracts. What is more stupid? You are if really believe that a model of invididual self-government is something stupid or another political unicorn like socialdemocracy, monarchy or commie-shit versions of modern crony-capitalism.

but then thats not communism you stupid shit head.

Wow, there are a lot of d&c shills out today.

so, what are you gonna do about it? Go fetch yourself some land, then.
why don't you do it, then? why don't anybody do it?

.. and why did the Liberland project fail?

how can you be a nationalist ancap? enjoy your open borders, retard

Yeah I thought that might be the case, I'm working on teaching the lolbergs.

Thanks for being the only one to address the OP

Open borders is not the AnCap position. Property owners decide immigration, instead of the state.

You dipshit communist.

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I already own property - I'm not a helpless useless and ugly commie NEET like you.

>Another burger genius pontificating

High IQ city people voted the same politicians running the same social circus than suburban retards. But WE voted for Le vagina Clinton and not for Grab them by the pussy Trump so WE must be right and smart. kek.

your backyard is hardly a nation, brah. You're dodging the questions, really.

>nation
What individualist cares about nationhood? Off yourself Borg.

Maybe I don't give a shit about atomized individualism, but rather property rights.

It's probably better to stop a heavily armed totalitarian government than a bunch of niggers with pistols
So I'd focus on stopping NEETsocs

>atomized individualism
What the fuck even is that? Fucking meaningless buzzwords from collectivist shitheads.

national socialism is rebranded socialism, despite what the administrators of the failed german experimental government will say about it.

Adolf Hitler became absolute dictator of Germany and liked to micro-manage economic policy. The economic boom he created was because the military industry sector of post-war Germany was decimated and he rebuilt it from nothing with keynesian economics--in the process creating a debt bubble that would make the Democrat party blush.

In doing so they also gained the advantages of late adoption. Imagine if the American military could rebuild it's self from the ground up?

Imagine if the American economy could employ 99% of it's people in a booming military industry sector?

Back on topic though, Hitler loved micro-managing the economy and it would have quickly devolved into socialism. There was no economic miracle and national socialism is actually just socialism.

If you just like the domestic policy decisions why attach yourself to a system of government that is intelligently indefensible?

You're a faggot. That's what it means.

>Fucking meaningless buzzwords
>Borg
noice

btw you missed the point entirely, you brainwashed twat. When was the last time you cried "I DO NOT CONSENT" to a cop?

Honestly, the latter.

>Why?
Because in general it will always be in the short term interest of individuals who hire labor to expand the labor market as much as possible.

Likewise, for the second one, NEETsoc eventually waxes; there is no permanent totalitarian state, and the interest of policing those who are of good stock and thus make good choices declines.

But your strongest conflict with AnCap should be that AnCap inherently produces pseudo-governments.

Libertarianism and libertarian economics are stupid in general, some type of Keynesian-Neoclassical synthesis model is much better, and NatSocs and their ilk like racially aware social democrats are much more correct on almost everything than libertarians.
> Commumism is totally incompatible with humans
> But high level and abstract notions like libertarian ethics and justice models totally are and aren't just autism and mental masturbation for a relative few

> national socialism is rebranded socialism
It isn't though, libertarians and ancaps are just completely retarded/deluded about what their ideas/definitions of socialism are.
National Socialism didn't ban private property, and didn't ban or discourage things like free enterprise and even had things like privatization/liberalization campaigns.
It isn't Marxist socialism or socialist in any meaningful sense other than maybe a democratic socialist one, which is still fundamentally a capitalist system.

Stop the Fucking Hammering Trump edition!

youtube.com/watch?v=7nvyQbZszUk

I want governance, I just want it to be voluntary.

All you need to do is explain to libertarians that their system will never happen with open borders and degenerate behavior.

it was a slow progression into socialism but all the hallmarks were there, despotic dictator, government micromanaging the economy, a bunch of economically illiterate retards praised as miracle workers, etc.

at least they killed all the communists off

Stop hoping for pipe dreams, completely voluntary governance will only happen among very small and homogeneous groups (and not even just racially homogeneous but ideologically, etc.).
It will never be a thing among large groups of people which is an inevitability you'll be forced to deal with sooner or later in dealing with practical statecraft.

I sympathize with ancap but it doesn't take into consideration the fact that peoples are different and have different values and histories. Culture matters, race matters

how the fuck are an ancap and a nationalist at the same time?

When will libertarians figure out that NatSoc is only authoritarian until it secures the ethnostate and the existence of our people

>libertarian ethics and libertarian justice models are not the philosophical base of all modern legal systems and social norms.

Top kek in world history. You should read a bit more, nigger.

Libertarianism dont pursue a new and unknown model of human interaction but a return to its essence. Libertarians are not revolutionaries, just logical and rational human beings.

> A bunch of economically illiterate retards
You mean like Austrian "economists" and the field of Austrian economics in general?
Hjalmar Schacht knew more about actually getting an economy to perform than pretty much any Austrian economist.
How people still adhere to such a flawed and for lack of a better word, debunked system is beyond me.
socialdemocracy21stcentury.blogspot.com.es/p/blog-page.html

I agree with everything you said, we need decentralized homogeneous groups. That's the goal.

AnCap is all about allowing people to live based on their values. And yes, Culture and race does matter.

>I sympathize with ancap but it doesn't take into consideration the fact that peoples are different and have different values and histories

You should read some ancap literature because Rothbard and all the ancaps defend exactly your point.

Google the word "nation" you retard. Nations are not Nation states.

he did not say dumbfuck, he said nationalism cant be compatible with ancap because a really big part of Nationalism is having a homeland for your people, in fact that is probably the only thing that can be used to define nationalism, because that is what nationalists regardless of race or ideologies want. From proggressive leftist scottish nationalists to patriotic Kurds

Then how would white ancaps defend against all other races that have no concept of individual liberty? You can't even sell blacks and Mexicans on personal responsibility, they'll never go for ancap, and they'll see those societies as disjointed and ultimately weak, as the individualist Western societies are seen now.

I'll definitely read more though, Rothbard is a fixture in paleoconservatism too

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Yes for like a month, until someone with statist values steamrolls your meme society.

nice blog fuckboy

>anarchy isn't anarchy!!!1

>I'm an anarchist and a nationalist

t. Antard

A nation is a group of people who share a culture, ethnicity, and language. What part of that is contradicts AnCap?

You neither can sell a lot of whites on personal responsability . It is not just a race thing but an educational trait. We are just free-riders of "geniuses" like bastiat, aequinas, suarez, rothbard...of course all of them were whites, but mudslims ,for instance, before the mohammed shit had their own "geniuses" too.

We never had to defend ourselves against negroids since they lived in isolation in their cesspool neolithic environment but since we brought them to the first world we should educate them in real western values. Not the artificial socialist shit. Libertarianism is not a white thing per se. Its political and economic implications have been developed by western-white scholars, but you dont have to be a genius to understand basic principles of human interaction. There are tons of libtards and niggers who will never understand this, but also there are tons of libtards and niggers who can be re-educated in human values.

I don't think it would be good for any society to have too many intelligent people. You need low IQ people to do menial labor and accept the low wages of it. If you've read Brave New World, they address how societies didn't work when everyone was very intelligent.

I don't think it would be good for any society to have too many stupid people. You need high IQ people to make automated machines to produce all of the goods for even cheaper than it costs to pay stupid people. Brave New World did not address automation and our current IQ disaster hitting The West; look up Helmuth Nyborg.

Jews are the only group of people that come to mind when I here someone describe themselves as a AnCap/Nationalist race realist. Think about it.

Exactly. Judaism is just an oral tradition that promotes extreme in-group loyalty and nepotism while also promoting subversive hostility to out-groups
It's fucking brilliant, I wish I thought of it.

You can't ancap and a race realist. Because you'd create your own gated community only for white people, then you'll grow and eventually this community will become a country with laws. To be an Anarcho capitalist is literally care only about yourself and your profit above all else. Even race.

>Anarcho-yellow
>SS
Anarchy is incompatible with totalitarianism and hierarchies.

first step would be to acknowledge that your ideology is a meme at its core, with no feasibility whatsoever.

This. We can worry about specifics whenever we secure our existence. Economics come to a far away second place

The kike knows

trick question. Both are fucking retarded as fuck

HH