Betsy DeVos changes standard of evidence for campus rape charges

>Reversing a key part of government policy on campus sexual assault, Education Secretary Betsy DeVos on Friday issued new temporary rules that could give accused students greater protection against campus rape and sexual misconduct claims.

>Ms. DeVos said that colleges may now use a higher standard of evidence before finding students responsible for sexual assault, a decision that can lead to discipline and even expulsion.

>The change, the latest in a widespread rollback of Obama-era rules by the Trump administration, had been long sought by advocates of accused students, mostly men, who had complained that campus judicial processes had become heavily biased in favor of women accusers.

>The rules, a sharp break from the Obama administration’s directives, will now permit colleges and universities to raise their evidence requirements to a “clear and convincing standard” of proof. The Obama administration had demanded colleges use a lower “preponderance of evidence” standard.

>The interim rules permit colleges to maintain the preponderance standard if they so choose, but the change suggests Ms. DeVos wants colleges to consider adopting the higher standard, if not actually forcing them to do so. The rules will remain in effect while the Education Department seeks public comment on a permanent set of rules.

>It was not immediately clear how many colleges will embrace the new higher standard and how many will stick with the requirement that sexual misconduct be proven by a “preponderance of the evidence,” meaning that sexual misconduct is proven if more than 50 percent of the evidence points to guilt.

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I want to lick her meatflaps

who cares about colleges? this shit should be handled by law enforcement. colleges are not native american reservations they have no right to self govern and even if they were the american government decided it didnt want indian reservations to have that right any more years ago

the determination of who is at fault if any one is left to a jury in a court room not some campus police

Hopefully this will end witch hunts

Betsy is genocidal.

It's ironic that the least qualified of Trump's picks is actually doing the most good of his entire cabinet (including himself).

Good.

tfw your country is such a piece of shit you'd rather pretend you're american and engage in our politics.

>Devos changes Obama era policy for campus rape cases back to innocent until proven guilty.
Sage kike media click bait article

>The change, the latest in a widespread rollback of Obama-era rules by the Trump administration

Every fucking time.
>how can we make this sound like it was once good but not anymore?
>Obama-era
>>Obama-era: the period when leftists didn't pay attention to a damn thing the president did but he was a democrat so it must've been good

Good. University kangaroo courts shouldn't be dealing with rapes and sexual assault, the local police should.

That's because I'm smart enough to follow the politics in my country's largest trading partner and closest neighbour. Stupid redditfag.

Nah you're just the faggot leaf who pretends they know what they're talking about.

BASED BETSY

@142499031
Dumbass.

I don't understand why you can't just accept a leaf might just know what he's talking about. I hate Canada, but I don't hate individual Canadians.

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Nobody cares. Niggers and spics do the raping anyway. Only sluts who are guilty accuse white men of rape.

It won't. It will make the standard higher, as it should be if you're going to fucking expell someone.

It's a good start removing listen and believe rapes,

But 70% of white male milliniels live with a relative.

That is induced defensive apathy. That is the real issue. A generation of men who have been tortured to the point of uselessness.

Their needs to be a purge of the intelligentsia. And we all know (((who))) did it.

But at least someone is doing something. I hope we are not too late already.

go back to twitter

justia.com/trials-litigation/evidentiary-standards-burdens-proof/

Evidentiary Standards in Civil Cases
-Preponderance of the Evidence
-Clear and Convincing Evidence
-Substantial Evidence

Evidentiary Standards in Criminal Cases
-Beyond a Reasonable Doubt
-Probable Cause
-Reasonable Belief and Reasonable Suspicion
-Credible Evidence

Why are we still using evidentiary standards for civil matters when the issue at heart is a criminal one?

Clear and Convincing Evidence
In some civil cases, the burden of proof is elevated to a higher standard called “clear and convincing evidence.” This burden of proof requires the plaintiff to prove that a particular fact is substantially more likely than not to be true. Some courts have described this standard as requiring the plaintiff to prove that there is a high probability that a particular fact is true. This standard sets a higher threshold than the preponderance of the evidence standard, but it does not quite rise to the widely recognized standard used in criminal cases, known as “beyond a reasonable doubt.”

Since when is rape a civil matter?

arrange it so that colleges admins are personally liable for 'prosecuting and convicting' unproven 'rapists' and they'll change overnight.

The only time an administration should be involved in a rape accusation is when they are cooperating with law enforcement or expelling someone who has been convicted of a crime that merits expulsion by the schools code of conduct.

Hes right you cockbag

Because they arent being convicted by the state and arent subjected to jail

Its stupid that the university doesn't just use whatever the police gives them. But that's by leftist design

I have been waiting for this. These campus kangaroo courts without due process have been around for too long.

Closing Public Schools next

>finally won't have to ever get stuck behind a school bus stopping every twenty feet again.

If liberals and universities are against rape, why don't they tell women to report rape immediately to real police. They must not think it's the crime it is if they are trying to deal with the issue themselves.

If women don't think the police are giving them justice, they should take that up with the real legal system, not the sudo legal system of the University.

This issue should be relatively simple.
-Is rape a criminal or civil matter?
>criminal
-Should we use criminal or civil standards of evidence?
>criminal

Anyone who advocates otherwise demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of criminal law and standards of evidence. DeVos actually doesnt go far enough.

Colleges are the epitome of vigilante justice. They will fuck a student just because someone accuses them.

See the Duke Lacrosse case, those kids lives were ruined by false accusations.

grandmummy

They shouldn't even make that determination to begin with because they are not legal in nature and dont have the body of protections and norms they have in the courts of law

Its no wonder they dont give a fuck about standards of proof, even lawfags are becoming almost completely corrupted

one could infer that a system which does not advocate for or enforce the criminal penalties for rape is almost "rape-enabling" by nature. Punishment by the criminal justice system is one of the major deterrents of criminal behavior. If you eliminate the possibility of criminal punishment, then the deterrent effect of the punishment is eliminated.