So Sup Forums, from a secular viewpoint, is homosexuality bad and why?

[Jonathan Brooks]

So Sup Forums, from a secular viewpoint, is homosexuality bad and why?

[Hudson Rivera]

Why is dicksmell so nice

[Cooper Cooper]

Secular morality is retarded
From a secular viewpoint why is murder bad?

[Tyler Allen]

Degredation of platonic male bonding which has been a cornerstone of society

[Angel Morales]

Those who commit homosexuality are more likely to get aids and other STDs. Most folks who are homosexual perform anal sex which can lead to anus tissue tearing, thus, leading to bleeding. With an open wound in your anus you can receive STDs more prevalently.

[Hudson Hill]

Truvada. Vaginismus. Super gonorrhea. Fungus. Zika. Protozoa

[Jack Hall]

Good thing it's fine in the bible and freud is the only difference

[Joshua Flores]

homosexuality is a mental disorder
gender confusion is a mental disorder

[Michael Ward]

Sept 23
>enjoying pussystank is not mentally ill

[Charles Stewart]

It's bad because elevating a fetish into some pseudo-science "born this way" lifestyle is self delusion to the point of mental illness.

[Wyatt James]

Do you have sources on that?

[Owen Ortiz]

Secular Scandinavian nations think it's okay to kill retards just so they don't have to be inconvenienced.

[Logan Price]

It's a negative thing but only slightly so.

[Leo Gonzalez]

It isn't, as an atheist who doesn't interpret paganism literally, homosexuality is a part of European society. Gay orgies were common between men in the Greek and Roman empires, although it wasn't seen as "gay" because this was simply just bonding with people you would have to rely on in the future. It's like going out with a friend to eat.

[Jaxon James]

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[Zachary Sanchez]

"A mental disorder, also called a mental illness or psychiatric disorder, is a behavioral or mental pattern that may cause suffering or a poor ability to function in life."

if you use the definition of mental illness strictly, and include reproduction in "function in life" then strictly speaking, it could be considered a mental illness

Transgenderism may not necessarily be a mental illness by that definition, but it depends on the individual faggot
>implying sexuality is in any way comparable to fetishes
i suppose you think being straight is a fetish too?

[Hudson Evans]

also, that pic is fantastic

[Angel Fisher]

But the homosexual would still be able to reproduce (with a woman), no?

[Daniel Lee]

If people could deal with things they don't understand without punching or ostracizing it like apes, maybe we would be able to deal with it appropriately. But we have taken something as unimportant as who they put their dick in and turned it into another thing to cloud our thoughts with confusion and curiosity and clog our streets with banners and parades. Just let people fuck

Which is why they should receive the best tools to prevent any injury. Heterosexuals get pills and condoms, I'm sure something can be arranged for homosexuals.

[Hudson Jones]

Disgusting. Complete degeneracy.

Humans can eat cockroaches but don't because they're disgusting. It's the same for faggots. They need to be killed just like the roaches.

[Michael Allen]

Who ever said it was disgusting or degenerate though? Are you saying that it's disgusting and/or degenerate because society has deemed it to be?

[Oliver Flores]

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[Jeremiah King]

People are born to hate gays, as much as they're born to hate roaches.

[Ayden Wood]

Faggots make a mockery of what it means to be a man. They deface proper and harmonious gender roles. Healthy societies would suppress or purge them.

[Ryder Martin]

Statistics on gays and marriage:

Netherlands gay divorce rate comparable to heterosexuals:

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands — According to statistics released by the Dutch government on Monday, the divorce rate of gay and lesbian couples in the Netherlands, where same-sex marriage has been legal since 2001, is nearly identical to that of heterosexual couples.

Of the 5,751 same-sex marriages performed between April 2001 and December 2003, approximately 1-percent, or 63 couples, ended in divorce. During the same period, 243,000 heterosexual couples were married, with 2,800 filing for divorce.
bi
gmax.co.za/look05/04/08-netherlands.html

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jomf.12141/abstract

10.1111/jomf.12141

gaychristian101.com/Gay-Marriage.html

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jomf.12141/abstract

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/26/same-sex-marriage/

archive.is/g0kHt

gallup.com/poll/212702/lgbt-adults-married-sex-spouse.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

archive.is/MlP5k

quora.com/What-percent-of-gay-men-in-the-US-are-in-a-long-term-relationship-and-how-does-this-compare-to-the-general-population

STDs in homosexuals:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6893897

[Aiden Garcia]

gallup.com/poll/201731/lgbt-identification-rises.aspx

Partners National Survey of Lesbian & Gay Couples 1988:

buddybuddy.com/survey.html

queerty.com/monogamy-making-comeback-among-younger-gay-couples-study-finds-20160922

archive.is/vobIA

The study, titled “Choices: Perspectives of Younger Gay Men on Monogamy, Non-monogamy and Marriage,” was conduced by researchersBlake Spears and Lanz Lowen. They surveyed over 800 single, monogamously-coupled, and non-monogamously coupled gay menages 18-40 years about their relationships. A handful of “monogamish” men were also interviewed.

“The most striking finding of this study is younger gay men’s greater inclination toward monogamy,” the researchers report. “We see this in the overwhelming number of relationships that are monogamous (86percent). In addition, 90percentof the single younger gay men were seeking monogamy. This is a sea change compared to older generations of gay men.”

thecouplesstudy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/CHOICES-Younger-Gay-Men-final-160812.pdf

ocd.pitt.edu/Default.aspx?webPageID=240

[Leo Roberts]

7% of millennials are gay:

prri.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/PRRI-Millennials-Web-FINAL.pdf

Millennials draw no distinctions between discrimination protections that should be afforded gay and lesbian people, on the one hand, and transgender people on the other. More than seven in ten (73%) millennials support legal protections against discrimination in jobs, public accommodations, and housing for gay and lesbian people. A nearly identical number (72%) of millennials say they favor these same protections for transgender people.

While no significant racial or gender differences exist on either question, there are large religious divides in support for expanding nondiscrimination legislation. Roughly eight in ten black Protestant (80%), white Catholic (82%), Hispanic Catholic (81%), religiously unaffiliated (83%), and white mainline Protestant millennials (78%) favor laws that would protect gay and lesbian people against discrimination in jobs, public accommodations, and housing. About two-thirds (66%) of Hispanic Protestant millennials also favor such laws. White evangelical Protestants are closely divided on this issue, with a slim majority (51%) favoring laws that would protect gay and lesbian people against discrimination, and 47% opposing them. Among religious groups, the pattern of opinion about non-discrimination legislation protecting transgender individuals is nearly identical.

A majority of Americans support publicly open commercial vendors being required to serve gay customers:

prri.org/research/poll-wedding-vendors-refusing-service-same-sex-couples-transgender-military-ban/

aacap.org/AACAP/Families_and_Youth/Facts_for_Families/Facts_for_Families_Pages/Children_with_Lesbian_Gay_Bisexual_and_Transgender_Parents_92.aspx

[Asher Roberts]

ibtimes.com/study-having-gay-parents-does-not-affect-childs-gender-identity-2579343

advocate.com/election/2015/9/28/read-donald-trumps-advocate-interview-where-he-defends-gays-mexicans

archive.is/hNJc1

I like the idea of amending the 1964 Civil Rights Act to include a ban of discrimination based on sexual orientation. It would be simple. It would be straightforward. We don’t need to rewrite the laws currently on the books, although I do think we need to address hate-crimes legislation. But amending the Civil Rights Act would grant the same protection to gay people that we give to other Americans — it’s only fair. I actually suggested this first, and now I see [Democratic presidential candidate] Bill Bradley has jumped on the bandwagon and is claiming the idea as his own. [A bill to amend the Civil Rights Act that would have included protections on the basis of sexual orientation was first introduced in the 1970s. — Ed.]

-Donald Trump

Heterosexual men are aroused by gay porn more than homosexual men are by females in porn:

indiana.edu/~sexlab/files/pubs/Chivers_Seto_Blanchard_2007.pdf

[Joshua Sanders]

>So Sup Forums, from a secular viewpoint, is homosexuality bad and why?
Homosexuality is a self-destructive and dangerous mental illness, promoted and normalized in White countries by the Jewish elite and the Jewish-controlled media to the detriment of the White race, White traditions and White culture.

[Camden Ross]

Fags spread disease and rape kids. Theres a good reason most of the world hates them.

[Ryder Evans]

Cause a society where people murder each other would suck maybe? Morality is always ;inked to outcomes.
youtube.com/watch?v=SgnqkY6Fba4

[Tyler Richardson]

Science on gays as parents:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3000058/

whatweknow.law.columbia.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-wellbeing-of-children-with-gay-or-lesbian-parents/

slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/02/12/what_we_know_about_lesbian_and_gay_parenting_making_sense_of_the_studies.html

archive.is/j0S7Q

www.asanet.org/documents/ASA/pdfs/12-144_307_Amicus_%20(C_%20Gottlieb)_ASA_Same-Sex_Marriage.pdf

Farr, R. H. (2017). Does parental sexual orientation matter? A longitudinal follow-up of adoptive families with school-age children. Developmental Psychology, 53(2), 252-264.
dx.doi.org/10.1037/dev0000228

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Patterson-Farr-Forssell-AppliedDevScience-Jul-2010.pdf

bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2458-14-635

How Does the Gender of Parents Matter?

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2009.00678.x/abstract?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=userIsAuthenticated=false

pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/131/4/e1374

ibtimes.com/study-having-gay-parents-does-not-affect-childs-gender-identity-2579343

Australia gay parenting survey:

bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/track/pdf/10.1186/1471-2458-14-635?site=bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com

[Camden Harris]

Genetic Evidence of Homosexuality:

washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/04/the-science-of-sexuality-how-our-genes-make-us-gay-or-straight/

archive.is/y64OH

nature.com/ng/journal/v11/n3/abs/ng1195-248.html?foxtrotcallback=true

doi: 10.1038/ng1195-248

cambridge.org/core/journals/psychological-medicine/article/genomewide-scan-demonstrates-significant-linkage-for-male-sexual-orientation/864518601436C95563EA670C5F380343

doi: 10.1017/S0033291714002451

Hamer 1993:

jstor.org/stable/pdf/2881563.pdf

advocate.com/health/2015/10/09/study-dna-identical-twins-can-reveal-whos-gay

archive.is/GuptB

jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/article-abstract/495588

doi: 10.1001/archpsyc.1991.01810360053008

nytimes.com/1991/12/17/science/gay-men-in-twin-study.html

archive.is/PSmzQ

christiantoday.com/article/research.points.to.genetic.element.in.homosexuality/35856.htm

Straight males carry gay genes:

chaladze.com/files/publications/Chaladze2016ASB.pdf

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xq28

Fecundity increases in female relatives of male homosexuals:

journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0051088

livescience.com/2623-gays-dont-extinct.html

archive.is/32sQz

[James Garcia]

Scientists find DNA differences between gay men and their straight twin brothers:

archive.is/g3lal

A novel predictive model of sexual orientation using epigenetic markers.

Authors: T. C. Ngun [1]; W. Guo [2]; N. M. Ghahramani [3]; K. Purkayastha [1]; D. Conn [4]; F. J. Sanchez [5]; S. Bocklandt [1]; M. Zhang [2,6]; C. M. Ramirez [4]; M. Pellegrini [7]; E. Vilain [1]

nature.com/news/epigenetic-tags-linked-to-homosexuality-in-men-1.18530

tim-taylor.com/papers/twin_studies/studies.html

scientificamerican.com/article/identical-twins-genes-are-not-identical/

archive.is/MALR3

hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/1961to1999/1993-homosexual-orientation-in-twins.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xq28

Female relatives of gay men have 1.3x as many children:

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2012.02785.x/abstract

Androgen receptor gene linked to XQ28

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAGEA11

sciencemag.org/news/2014/11/study-gay-brothers-may-confirm-x-chromosome-link-homosexuality

archive.is/E3my1

cambridge.org/core/journals/psychological-medicine/article/genomewide-scan-demonstrates-significant-linkage-for-male-sexual-orientation/864518601436C95563EA670C5F380343

[Luke Robinson]

The benefits of gay marriage:

liveabout.com/the-benefits-of-gay-marriage-1411846

nydailynews.com/life-style/health/gay-marriage-boosts-happiness-health-study-article-1.3053017

archive.is/dmO9e

theconversation.com/evidence-is-clear-on-the-benefits-of-legalising-same-sex-marriage-82428

archive.is/kezfR

A majority (37) states had already legalized gay marriage when the Supreme Court decided to legalize it:

governing.com/gov-data/same-sex-marriage-civil-unions-doma-laws-by-state.html

foxnews.com/health/2012/12/14/married-same-sex-couples-are-happier-study-finds.html

[Gabriel Young]

>Do you have sources on that?
pastebin.com/aiTLKLJc

[Eli Robinson]

Does conversion therapy work:

whatweknow.law.columbia.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-whether-conversion-therapy-can-alter-sexual-orientation-without-causing-harm/

newsweek.com/life-and-death-jewish-exgay-therapy-organization-406898

archive.is/TZ3kj

metroweekly.com/2017/05/nevada-becomes-8th-state-ban-conversion-therapy/

archive.is/QXhhE

providencejournal.com/news/20170829/advocates-celebrate-passage-of-ri-ban-on-conversion-therapy

archive.is/l6DOP

[Carson Turner]

HIV information:

techcrunch.com/2017/05/03/scientists-have-eliminated-hiv-in-mice-using-crispr/

archive.is/8yiqT

White gays experience a dramatic decline in new HIV infections:

dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3349342/HIV-infections-fall-20-decade-NOT-gay-bisexual-men-living-South.html

archive.is/NdR25

We don’t know who Patient Zero for HIV was:

bbc.com/news/health-37767179

nature.com/nature/journal/v539/n7627/full/nature19827.html?foxtrotcallback=true

HIV infection rate in the US falls by a third in a decade

bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28389275''

archive.is/vNjZq

UK HIV decrease:

cbsnews.com/news/unaids-hiv-infection-rate-down-33-percent-worldwide-since-2001/

archive.is/Qdllj

AU HIV decease:

news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/hiv-infections-in-nsw-have-fallen-to-their-lowest-levels-except-for-one-group-of-people/news-story/9dc7261df2978e0091ad6739ff106d43

archive.is/Qdllj

HIV came from Haiti to New York

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7068574.stm

nature.com/nature/journal/v539/n7627/full/nature19827.html

[Robert Long]

Are gays more likely to be pedophiles?

individual.utoronto.ca/james_cantor/blog1.html

ipce.info/sites/ipce.info/files/biblio_attachments/every_fifth.pdf

beyondhomophobia.com/blog/child-abuse-research/

psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

pandys.org/articles/abuseandhomosexuality.html

dailykos.com/stories/2010/09/18/903178/-Gays-are-pedophiles-No-Here-s-the-proof

archive.is/ztjf2

blog.donnawilliams.net/2011/12/17/mothers-who-sexually-abuse-their-daughters/

centerforinquiry.net/uploads/attachments/Anti-gayActivismandtheMisuseofScience_1.pdf

patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton/2009/06/05/a-major-study-of-child-abuse-and-homosexuality-revisited/

thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/religious-rights-top-anti-gay-researcher-says-he-was-attracted-to-men-as-a-boy/politics/2012/05/16/39681

shadowproof.com/2011/10/19/paul-cameron-why-the-religious-right-cant-keep-him-in-the-closet/

washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/16/AR2010041602026.html

archive.is/a2iRU

usccb.org/issues-and-action/child-and-youth-protection/upload/The-Nature-and-Scope-of-Sexual-Abuse-of-Minors-by-Catholic-Priests-and-Deacons-in-the-United-States-1950-2002.pdf

About 60% of the male survivors sampled report at least one of their perpetrators to be female.
-Mendel, 1993.

yellodyno.com/html/child_molester_stats.html

religioustolerance.org/hom_chil.htm

childluresprevention.com/research/profile.asp

[Kevin Reyes]

3/4 victims of molestation are female:

childprotection.lifetips.com/cat/63573/sex-offender-statistics/index.html

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25635900

"A 2015 study (linked above) looked at virtually every substantiated child sexual abuse case reported to child protective services in the United States in 2010. It concluded more than 20% of child sexual abuse cases reviewed involved a primary female perpetrator – so estimates vary significantly."
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[Jayden Wright]

Is being gay a mental illness?

psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites//rainbow/html/facts_mental_health.html

[Wyatt Lewis]

Businesses cannot be coerced into producing anti-gay messages:

thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/denvers-azucar-bakery-wins-right-to-refuse-to-make-anti-gay-cake

archive.is/1iwE5

irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/dublin-bakery-s-refusal-of-anti-gay-marriage-cake-not-discrimination-1.3165211

archive.is/xtLSU

[Parker Lewis]

Churches in Europe blessing same sex celebrants:

religionnews.com/2017/08/04/britains-first-same-sex-marriage-celebrated-in-a-scottish-church/

archive.is/5p3DJ

news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/08/25/17/italian-protestant-church-says-i-do-to-gay-blessings

archive.is/qSJ0j

lep.co.uk/news/church-takes-its-first-gay-wedding-booking-1-8737310

[Christopher Ramirez]

Church attendance is declining:

prri.org/research/american-religious-landscape-christian-religiously-unaffiliated/

churchleaders.com/pastors/pastor-articles/139575-7-startling-facts-an-up-close-look-at-church-attendance-in-america.html

[Joshua Hernandez]

I wouldn't bring too much science to pol, we believe in flat earth and carbon taxes being a globalist plot to subvert our fluids.

[Jaxson James]

The point is to let people know that science is not just what they read in stormfront infographics.

[Grayson Lopez]

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[Jaxon Kelly]

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[Parker Sullivan]

Actually I wonder how many flat earthers use the term "globalist". I'm sure a lot of them use it without a second thought.

[Chase Howard]

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[Blake Lopez]

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[Christian Williams]

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[Ian Edwards]

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[Cameron Kelly]

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[Colton Campbell]

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[Jaxson Harris]

The real red pill...reality

[Elijah Carter]

Secular just means without religious orders of a special kind. It does not mean irreligion, which is a vice and a sin.
LGBTQ etc is a psyop, nothing more. It's a power play. You must leave your brain and individuality at the door.

[Caleb King]

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