Re:Zero vs Steins;Gate

Which anime is better?

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I don't understand how anyone who has seen Steins;Gate can defend it. Mado Scientisto, fat otaku, tuturu, trap, you can describe these characters with one or two words, and they never do anything to break that role. There's zero depth in the characters, and the show spends more than half of the series doing literally nothing with its setting plot or characters.

Re:Zero is better, even though it's less original.

Why is Steins;Gate winning the poll easily then?

Look the question here isn't which one is good, its which one is better.

Does Stein;Gate fair well when compared to literary classics? No of course not, all of the characters but Okabe are flat and story struggles because of it being a VN

But if you compare it to Re:zero then i think its no contest, Steins;Gate wins hands down.

At the very least Steins;Gate had a point, a set of themes that it wanted to explore and argue. It had a narrative that was above just telling a story but also an overarching exploration of the nature of fate. It had structure and most of everything in it added to the overall narrative and not just what was happening to move the plot along.

While I enjoy Re:Zero, i don't see the same thing. Things just seem to be happening to Subaru he never actually has any agency. He never chose anything that caused him to go to the new world it just happened. He never chose to put himself in danger, the danger just found him. There seem to be a set patter: Thing happens he dies until he can figure out how to stop it, then next thing happens. All of it seems to only be about shock value and invoking emotion in the audience by making his situation incredibly bleak and cruel.
There seems to be no overarching narrative other than: Can Subaru finally stop things from happening to him?

Compare that to Steins;Gate where Okabe is responsible for the crisis he finds himself in. He uncorked the genie from the bottle and he then spends the rest of the series trying to put it back in. Its just a far better presentation

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Okabe is a much better protagnist and can carry the series far better than Subaru.

because re:zero is currently airing and theres a ton of hate for it, so "you have to downvote it to be le cool Sup Forumsnon".

all the summerfags proabbly dont even know what steins gate is, since it aired more than 1 year ago

This is stupid because Re:zero hasn't even finished airing.

Time-loop story had become less and less exciting no.

I'd go with Steins Gate, back when my mind completely fucked up while watching this kind of stuff.

I enjoy both but SG is the clear anwser.

Well said

Steins;Gate by far.

How about you wait until Re: Zero finishes?

You're going to compare a story in the middle of its first season to a completed work? If people just saw the first half of steins;gate they would think it sucked. Fucking retard.

>it's a Re:Zero is best Anime thread

No, it's just a mix of SAO, S;G and some edginess in it.

Steins;Gate is still very popular and acknowledged as a very good anime/VN almost 7 years after coming out.
S;G 0 set the bar higher with the VN and of the Anime adaptation is good, it will be talked about for another 7 years.
Basically, S;G will still be talked about 10 years after its release.

Okabe is clearly a better protag, much more believable. Subaru is le NEET trapped in a fantasy world.
Both have social and even mental issues, but Subaru has bigger ones.

Nope, it is still miles better than Re:Zero.

I hope you know that you sound retarded,

Also Kurisu>>>>>>>>>>any girl in Re:Zero

Not really.

Re:Zero is fun but that's ALL it is.

I don't think Steins;Gate is a masterpiece or anything either, but it's way stronger than Re:Zero. It has actual interesting sci-fi ideas & themes and an internal set of rules that it rigidly sticks to.

Subaru is a fun character in Re:Zero but he doesn't act like a normal human at all. He gets whisked away to some fantasy world and doesn't even question the situation he's in once, or reflect on his past life or anything like that. He cares deeply about people he's known for only a few days, for reasons that are incredibly ambiguous. The entire thing is just about him suffering. Which is fun but that's it.

Not him but Steins gate anime did start off pretty shit.

Re:Zero isn't boring.

So Re:Zero.

Yep. All i'm saying is this thread is stupid and only serves to get people riled up, it's not for actual discussion. OP is a faggot.

>10 million users a month
>Poll with 19 results
>Conclusive

>all of the characters but Okabe are flat and story struggles
Agreed. ReZero's cast on the other hand is much more fleshed out and evolve beyond their tropes much faster than Steins;Gate did, despite having 12 episode of literally nothing happening in which you could have developed characters.

>Steins;Gate had a point, a set of themes that it wanted to explore and argue
ReZero does as well. It started off an extremely tongue in cheek satire of the genre as a whole but has quickly evolved out of simply poking fun at other stories in the same genre to something more than that while still remembering its roots.

Subaru's constant deaths and betrayals by ones close to him are an ever present reminder that if some idiot found his way in a fantasy world, he'd die over and over again.

>Subaru he never actually has any agency
Have you even watched the show? If Subaru lets things happen he dies, the whole point of the show is that if he gives up his agency, he dies until he gets it right.

>He never chose to put himself in danger
Once again you're objectively wrong. He chose to stay in the mansion, he chose to help Emelia get the amulet, and he's going to choose to do what happens next. Once again I question if we're watching the same show.

>All of it seems to only be about shock value
Once again, you're missing the message being conveyed. Almost every other big hit like this is met with a dozen different people in the threads going, "Well why didn't he just leave the mansion?" or "Why didn't he stay up and find out what killed him?". His deaths are a constant reminder that the solution to problems aren't always black and white, and are generally extremely nuanced. You keep forgetting this is written by someone who is genre-savvy and actively satirizing it.

>There seems to be no overarching narrative
The narrative is "Being in a fantasy world isn't as fun as you think it'd be"

>>Poll with 19 results
40, at the time you posted this.

Just let Re:zero sit for few years, until people start calling it a "deconstruction of the isekai genre" and all the pretentious cunts will start to love it.

>deconstruction

>green text

I like Re;zero but overall steins gate is better

Okabe is a much more fleshed out character, while subaru seems like a generic shounen protoganist. Its very jarring how he can just take everything to stride at the beginning despite be a Neet/otaku

To its credit re zero had a much stronger beginning than steins gate

>Steins Gate Takes 10 episodes to get to the good bit

Re zero isn't finished yet so i'm hoping they'll explain why he acts the way he does

Steins;Gate isn't better.

Okabe is only fleshed out because Steins;Gate is milked to death with all its spinoffs, prequels, and sequel.

>spinoffs, prequels, and sequel
Never read/watched any of them, but Okabe seems pretty fleshed out to me.

Rezero is ongoing so this is stupid.

Steins Gate is better. You will accept that and stop typing utter drivel.

Other than suffer porn, the fuck is up with whole premise of Re:Zero? It is literally Subaru goes from one problem to another and if he fucks up, then who cares because he gets to reset with no repercussions. Fuck outta here faggot.

I don't care either way but I prefer S;G more if only because I like almost all of the characters better. I couldn't muster any fucks for the Re:Zero cast and I doubt I ever will but I do admit that it's had a relatively stronger start if only because they immediately delve into the looping shit.

>Both are shit harems
>Both take themselves too seriously
>Both generate more waifufaggotry
>Both fanbases also take themselves too seriously
>One is "Time travel isn't all you think it'd be" while the other is "Isekai isn't all you think it'd be"

It's tough but I'd have to go for Steins;Gate, overall more amusing and has a trap.

The one that is not reddit: the anime, so Re:Zero.

>The one that is not reddit: the anime
So none of those?

Was the poll posted on MAL or reddit or something?

(You)

>Subaru never actually has any agency
I disagree Subaru has always had the choice
to just walk away but he doesn't just to do
the right thing .

Uhh not he can't you lard ass. Moment he tries to walk away he would be killed. He can't escape from the curse.

That's one way to admit you're a retard who doesn't know what he's talking about.

>Both take themselves too seriously
I've never understood this. Being serious is not a bad thing.

I hate strawpolls. I personally just vote for the worst possible answer to rile people up, the answer this time being Re:Zero.

null vote, both trash

I prefer Re:Zero

>and has a trap
So does re:zero

This right here is why you can't compare the two series until (at least) this season of Re:ZERO is over.

Arc 1 and 2 are merely the introduction of the main characters and the mechanics of Return by Death. The actual story will start next episode and this is ONE BIG story. One Piece-level of big.

Re:Zero isn't finished yet. So I'll hold my judgement.

It's the whole culture of >Hehe, I'm just enjoying the show /ironically/. If something actually commits to doing something without constantly saying >J-just kidding, it makes a certain demographic uncomfortable because they are unable to relate to the idea of committing something without a backdoor they can just >Haha I was just trolling, their way out of.

>tfw you can't greentext mid sentence with spoilers anymore

Hiro pls

OP said anime LNfag

Why the fuck are we voting when Re:Zero hasn't even finished airing yet.

I prefer endless eight desu.

>poll results are now 50/50
Neo-Sup Forums is real.

>not a harem
>wat
>so?
>so?
>so>
>both have traps

>50/50 now
They're both terrible

SG is lowkey overrated.

No, they're really not.

Wouldn't be surprised if most of those haven't even seen steins gate, definitely not while it was airing.

Both are overrated garbage that only get a pass because people will eat up time loops as a premise.

Who cares. You can say that about pretty much any popular show.

OP said anime only and Ferris has gotten little to no screen time as far as I can remember

>strawpoll.me/10481044
cant decide yet you faggot, re zero still ongoing

what are some literary classics user

Hakomari was genuinely good with the time loop premise.

The very mention of it triggers Re:Zerofags.

ITT: Two fanbases of DEEP shows fight for superiority using a strawpoll that eventually the losing side will refute while the rest of Sup Forums just wishes they'd get over themselves and return to their containment threads

The edgemaster Daiya arc ruined the series.

Re:zero is more enjoyable. I find S;G very monotonous.

Hey asshole you finished your little rant? Good wipe the period blood off the floor and fuck off.

War and Peace
Lolita
The Great Gatsby
The Grapes of Wrath
Of Mice and Men
1984
Crime and Punishment
10 Little Niggers
Catch 22

All of them are far better than Re:Zero could ever dream of being.

>triggered
back to tumblr with you

>comparing novels to AV works
good 1 mate

wow user ur so smart. how does it feel to be pretentious?

>being this much of a transparent newfag
end it all

Both shows are shit, beacuse they use te worst plot device that has eer been invented: fucking time resets.

Seriously, fuck time resets.

I actually hate steins;gate

But who got a better adaptation?

I can tell you right now that Re:Zero ANIME is better than half of what's on that list.

>I can tell you right now that Re:Zero ANIME is better than half of what's on that list.
Oh baby now we're pod racing.

Both are shit.

I read two volumes of it and found the series too dull to continue.

I'm genuinely curious, what did you like about the time looping in Hakomari?

Because while the looping was impressive with the sheer largeness of it (this aspect also being handled quite well) and while the narrative format was also quite novel,
it didn't seem to really have a point?

There was no psychological aspect because of the character resets, or rather molding.
And it didn't actually advance the plot since the antagonist basically self-destructed.
And it wasn't really used to develop the characters except as a kind of convoluted introduction because at the end of it the characters were still rather one-dimensional.

You guys started this bullshit to shitpost, now you are going to lose. OP, you are a Steins Gate shilling faggot.

Because you people decided to mention it in the first place. Pretentious Daiya and power of feelings bullshit.

>There was no psychological aspect because of the character resets, or rather molding.
Holy shit, you're legit retarded. Do you actually understand what a character arc is?

>Pretentious Daiya and power of feelings bullshit.
>power of feelings bullshit
That's one way of admitting you're a complete idiot.

> te
> eer
Don't sound like a contrarian with that spelling of yours. You are making a fool out of the people you represent at the moment.

how does he sound retarded exactly?
he just proved a point,and I agreed with him.

How is Re:Zero winning the poll? Is a fanatical Re:Zero fag spamming proxy votes?

maybe your brain capacity can't handle the greatness of the mado scientisto

All of you who voted for Re:Zero are fucking disgusting disgraces for the human race. Get the fuck out of here

Nope. Daiya's motivations is made to be more important than it actually was.
> All for Kokone.
Hah! All that bullshit from everything and you call me an idiot.
Also,
> power of feelings to break loops and reality
Complete bullshit. You are only creating a shounen trope to use the power of emotions to break through the fabric of reality.

>cancer tumblr image
>Hah!
>has no understanding of what a catharsis is
Yeah, you're a complete moron alright.

> Strong repressed emotions
That's as pretentious as one should consider it to be important. Going through all of those things and acting as the villain is pretentious.

I mean a character arc is a section of a story that focuses and expands on a particular character's personality and that develops them as a character.

Whose character arc was it?

The female MC who pretty much was a determinator, almost gave up in the middle, but otherwise remained one.
The male MC who at the end of it only really remembers the entire experience as a kind of vague dream and returns to his otherwise normal behavior because that's what makes him special.
Or the antagonist who is purposely given minimal focus because of the mystery and then just a sparse few paragraphs at the end which suddenly makes her something just slightly more than just MC's weird love interest, which because of the end promptly makes her irrelevant.

I mean for it to be psychological, you need to be in someone's head. The only person's head you ever really enter for a substantial amount of time is the male MC, which mostly amounts to some kind of impotent call to action.

I might be a retard,
did I completely misunderstand something?

Tiers
1. GOAT: Literature. eg Hyperion Cantos which use clever, unpredictable time travel plots without resorting to length explanations of implausible phenomena to add towards the mystique and worldbuilding - allowing the reader to come to their own conclusions.
1a. Has potential fiction: In here goes some fun things I recently read for example 'The Shadow Of What Was Lost' which has the potential to attain an intringuing closed time loop. Again, readers are not forcefed explanations.
2. GOAT: Long running shows. eg Doctor Who (1963- onwards has produced some excellent stories like The Man in the Velvet Mask, The Chimes of Midnight, Heaven Sent, Blink, Night Thoughts, Father's Day, Peri and the Piscon Paradox, A Tub Full of Cats, The Crystals of Cantus, A Death in the Family, Faction Paradox stories such as Alien Bodies which fully exploit the concept of time travel to the maximum, as well as creative historical stories like Enemy of the World).
3. Great: Good short and effective animes like Puella Madoka Magica and Erased which tell a good story without overusing western tropes.
4. Fun: Other stories eg Steins;Gate. For stories that aren't 100% pure gold but have a few excellent scenes with fantastic story telling and a pointless, awful or bordering on mindless pandering episodes.
5. Just plain bad. In here goes some modern fiction like YA shit whcih I used to like and now hate.
6. Shit
7. Worse than shit shows like Re:Zero.

>No, it's just a mix of SAO, S;G and some edginess in it.

What an ignorant statement.

Yes, re zero has the "trapped in another world" and "time reset"aspects like to those two, but neither of those shows invented the concept.

And all of three shows have edginess. Calling it "just" those three components is fucking retarded.

I don't see how but it's probably because you don't agree with it.

Okabe is a much more complex character than Subaru

>3.Great Madoka Magica and Erased.
I stopped right there.

You don't know what pretentious means, you're just a really idiotic kid spouting buzzwords.

Subaru is actually a little more complicated than what the anime has caught up to at this point.