Medieval Student:
>Woke up for studies at 5am
>Prayed for the Truth
>Wrote major work in second year
>Virgin and Celibate
Modern Student:
>Can't wake up before 9am
>Atheist
>Netfilx
>Gets "high"
>Voted Labour
>Doesn't believe Truth exists
Was it the introduction of Women or something else...?
**I am aware some medieval/previous students may have become drunk and even visited prostitutes, but was it the norm like today? Was it the culture of University as it is now?
But we're milenials!
>Different standards of exclusivity.
>medival universities are tied to the church
>[assorted degeneration]
>prayer
>truth
>being this spooked
Go back to your trailer park, Donovan
>Different standards of exclusivity.
didn't think of that
Well schooling has become more rigid as a result of the Prussian tradition. You squeeze the kids young, cramming them into school rooms, forcing them to rote memorization of facts like Jews studying the torah or reciting something for hours at the wailing wall, and keep them there for hours. Then when they grow up they crave laziness and comfort to make up for the brutal prussian regime during childhood. Then all these children grow up with ADHD and are fed drugs to force to conform to society.
Also, before people who actually had a passion for law, science, faith, medicine went to university. Since it was smaller, it was more demanding. Now that you NEED to go to university to avoid being homeless, everyone goes and it's been streamlined and dumbed down in areas. Other areas are difficult because there is a lot more knowledge so I would argue the material is harder.
Modern education is a capitalist and jewish foreign system. Our ancestors had nothing of the sort. Instead we would learn from our elders and be mentored into a certain role in society. The current system is a judeo-prussian-capitalist bastardization as foreign and incompatible as Christianity.
>Prayer is for the purpose of asking for a bike at Christmas.
Go back to Protestantism.
Prayer is talking to God and Adoration of him, lifting up our hearts.
Early educated and scientists weren't necessary religious, they just had no other choice than to say yes to Jesus.
What the fuck has that ever done to anybody? Also, you just dodged my argument completely. Prayer is just a feel-good act where you pretend to talk to someone in hopes of your miserable life getting better
Well the Church was the only one funding and supporting science and these higher level education people back then. Same with the Islamic Golden Age.
What's the ploblem? ;^)
If God exists we ought to be close to him in our thoughts. And he does exist.
Wrong! Any studentwho wouldn't die for his Atheism is not worth anything. You are saying Students were scared of the Church, they should of been brave and denied the Church, but they knew she was right and that she would convince them so.
Literal priests worked against flat earth theory. Being a priest was a good job.
Nothing of Value has come out of this university system since women were introduced and more importantly since the reformation. Name one thing to come out of it except one dimensional natural science.
What side are you on? What is your point... I don't understand...
My point is that pope doesn't needs to believe in god or anything, they just slaughter themselves for power, telling people stories about Jesus so they felt better. People back then were 90% illiterate.
This is just silly. This could happen for maybe 50 years, but for 2000 years without any problems. This is false.
you are young and have yet to understand the power of Christ. Give it a chance, even if you have rejected Christ your whole life he will forgive your sins. read luke 15:11-32 and this will make more sense.
I just woke up at 6:30 for my university classes at 11:00.
Medieval students behaved far worse. Zoom in on that first picture and you'll find that they are either sleeping or talking to their classmates as the professor lectures.
A lot of them look like niggers too.
en.wikipedia.org
drunken student chimpout lasted for two days
Here's a thought Gommie, maybe prayer is the western version of mediation where you consciously reflect on your faults, how to correct them while also acknowledging the good things life.
t. Atheist that prays
America came to exist.
The world went downhill from that point.
>Muslim maniac beheads people in Syria for decades for being cheating whores, being gay
>comes to Germany, first day wears German fashion
>converts to Christianity after 3 months to bang German women, cheats constantly, licks ass
>after 1 year becomes gay
Happens. People do shit for money, you can see their bullshit from mile away. Do you really think there were saints? Come on now. Look around you, look at your co-workers. Saints? Come on, bunch of bullshitters who lie for decades to get more salary.
But they believed in the Truth. They believed in logic. I'll take badly behaved and reasonable instead of badly behaved and illogical. But then again some were forced to go to uni (parents), so you're right.
Holy shit you couldn't be further from the truth. Look up what medieval university students were like. They had literal street-brawling riots with townies, they whored and drank and begged for money from their parents.
medievalists.net
You don't come up with rules of what not to do unless there's an issue of people doing it.
Can't believe it actually. Sound too modern, but yeah, it is possible that students did drink too much as in any time in history.
That pic on the right is a bit enraging. Arrogant, unquestioning and weak people playing aristocrat.
HAHA LOL
So what has the modern university produced except this (drunkeness)? Medieval universities at least produced something to make it up to the world.
Being this ignorant about history. Medieval universities were much more wasteful, inefficient and decadent even than the modern ones.
same feels bro, now that I think of it.
haha wow maybe Russian one, lol are they even real?
Are you implying that modern scientific progress does not exist?
Russia only had monastic schools in medieval times, obviously. Your point is?
Most schools around here have "mindfullness' meetings. So student sit and meditate together to relax. Serves the same function as prayer I think.
I guess they got some perspective.
I read somewhere that it used to have parties in Medieval Universities with alot of hookers.
ahahaha, Augustine, Bede, Aquinas, Anselm, Scotus, Bonaventure, Boethius, Alfred the Great.. to name the main Medieval ones...Your move.
Every single one influenced the west in more ways than all consequent schools put together.
>Scientific
>more important than Theology/Philosophy/Arts
Theology is a science, actually (though not natural).
I think the only major differences are that the students were forced to think more and memorize less, and women weren’t there to fuck with the boys club. Also the average college student is more intelligent today since everyone has access to university instead of orphans and the rich
I'm not discussing personalities, simply the way medieval universities were organized.
>Augustine, Bede, Aquinas, Anselm, Scotus, Bonaventure, Boethius, Alfred the Great.. to name the main Medieval ones
Extremely fringe in today's world. Completely BTFO during Renaissance.
>Theology is a science
And a useless one for most.
The modern education system (at least in the US) was copied off of the Soviet System. Literally the opposite of capitalist.
The unique parts of the Soviet System were mentorship, unified cluster of schools, universities and labs/research institutes, and a very specific structure of scientific hierarchy. The general concept of mass education was implemented in the West long before the Soviet Union (which is a major reason Russian Empire got BTFO so hard)
Truth will remain Truth even if forgotten. Renaissance, oh, you mean Christians influenced by their Medieval school.
Gotta love how you posted an arabic university.
Well played 10/10.
And what is the truth? It is that the only reason you made this post is to LARP about your ideology. Instead of any sort of historical and coherent discussion, you spew deus vult everywhere.
Like, here is your comment.
>Truth will remain Truth even if forgotten. Renaissance, oh, you mean Christians influenced by their Medieval school.
How is it even connected with determining the influence of various academic schools in the modern world? What was even your point, besides deus vult?
...
>worshipping a dead kike on a stick because you read about it in a book written by arabs and jews
I'm not a total atheist, I may believe in something divine, but your book is laughably stupid
Christcucks need to vacate the premises
Well modern education is based off the Ford-esque innovation of the assembly line. Streamlined mass produced university degrees for the sole motive of profit.
Soviet education system was a success as the literacy went up and there was a focus on STEM churning out talented scientists and engineers.
That's a simplification. Prayer is a time for introspection at the least. At the most prayer can bring enlightenment and a higher level of conscience.
12/10 for getting a genuine chuckle out of me.
Listen. I'm not a cafeteria catholic. I will always defend the Church. Defend your... your... thing.
>...no detailed, reliable, firsthand accounts by students or masters have come down to us from the years before 1500...
cool pic bro
I hope I'm right about this btw. But even if it is Arabian, Medieval Arabia was at least logical and interested in study.
Spanish arabs developed western culture, they created the universities advanced architecture and medicine, you are very right into thinking that, but ethno triggered Sup Forums has issues with this simple facts.
tfw you'll never beat up children and heckle executioners with the lads
You see, you don't do shit IRL. Because if you did, you wouldn't need to fool around on Sup Forums to simulate it.
>Defend your... your... thing
I'm not interested to LARP rn. I just shared my insight and opinions - like - you know - people do when they discuss something.
The whole reason for the "public" education system is to free up mothers from childcare so they can work for ((them)). All education prior to 10 years old must be repeated and expanded upon in the upper grades because children who haven't reached the age at which they gain the ability to reason can't learn anything....they can only memorize and parrot....so reading and basic math are good subjects for younger children to learn, but they are fully incapable of understanding logic and reasoning (with very few exceptions). So why teach a child of 8 history? They literally can't understand the hows and whys of what happened...the only reason to teach them history (or any subject that isn't reading, writing and maths) at young ages is to indoctrinate them with the acceptable social theories of the time and then reinforce those lessons every year throughout their formative years. It's programming children to stay children, effectively, as they never had to do anything but memorize and parrot....year in, year out.
Literally creating adults who are incapable of reasoning, because they've never been allowed to do so....they were socially conditioned to accept all information from authority sources (who often spend more time with the child than their own parents) as fact....starting at the age of 5....and those lessons they learned, they never questioned, as that would require reasoning beyond their abilities.
No,no, Christianity did all the civilisation stuff. Arabs just conquered a bit and wrote some stuff for lolz, but really spain was quite touched by them.
Medieval:
>Fear for the fate of your eternal soul
>No women within a mile radius
>Nothing better to do except die from plague
Modern:
>9001 distractions on your phone alone
>Sloots and feminazis everywhere
>No purpose, no hope, only preparation for wageslavery (if they're lucky)
When the opportunity arrives I defend, otherwise I become some sort of bothersome person. I just thought I'd make a point. God exists btw.
>Was it the introduction of Women or something else...?
Jews.
Pre arab european buildings are big blocky things, pre arab european medicine it's literally applied paganism.
I'm not saying they did all, but they sure helped.
>Fear for the fate of your eternal soul
>No women within a mile radius
Nothing wrong with that. Both make you good.
>Nothing better to do except die from plague
False. One could partake in the joys of Reason.
lol, okay, but could Islam exist without Christianity?
Hey Lib, how do you feel about Buddhist monks who meditate and are able to change the way their body reacts to substances and are also able to access seratonin in their brains? Prayer literally makes people feel better.
>I just thought I'd make a point.
You didn't make any point. You can't make any point by publicly repeating
>God exists btw.
in an obnoxious and theatrical fashion.
>When the opportunity arrives
Poor, poor you. To be born at an age, where there are no opportunity to do Christian deeds apart from posting
>God exists btw.
on an anonymous animated porn forum.
Also yes, women. Societies are built on stoicism and destroyed on liberation.
Basically a society full of chaste/God fearing people will undoubtedly create better societies than sexually liberated materialists. It's literally men of faith and principles vs degenerates and drug addicts. Gee I wonder who would win.
>Gee I wonder who would win.
You don't have to wonder. You can take a peek outside.
Of course, it's an abrahamic cult, jesuschrist it's an aftertought.
Points out some stuff about semantics...
You win.
You're just lazy
ahahahaha... but what have they DONE????
What have modernists doneeeeeee?
Too similar to Christianity. Like literally it's protestantism.
They live, in all senses. That's the only criterion of success.
It is similar to protestantism, in the sense that it ignited a war, but it wasn't a rebellion against the old cults as much as it was a reactionary movement that wished to go back to older beliefs, that's why the islamic revolution found so much theoretical sustain in the sacred texts of islam.
Okay, but to live in Heaven is greater than to Live in Hell. therefore all those Medieval Saints and all Saints LIVE.
okay, but Islam is too good to be true. Wouldn't you say. Truth ought to be challenging and not so easy to accept as Islam. Which actually is quite forgiving: Marry four wives, divorce et cetera.
>Islam is too good to be true.
It's just another medieval attempt to make human society less chaotic, as all of this attempts it quickly became an excuse to eradicate all non believers.
I'm not interested in attemps. I want to know the Truth.
You could of chosen a worse pic for the right
Civilization requires more barbarism than civilization in order to be implemented.
I wanted to get their best/ or at least a reasonable one.
women were given rights
The problem is you are an ugly coping autist. Life has never been this good if you are good looking.
I suppose in most cases true. I think, however, in, say, a Catholic monastery, there is peace without draconian rule, because of self-discipline.
Isaac Newton was eternally assmad because his fellow Cambridge students spent all their time drinking rather than studying, it's always been like this.
It is called regret. It happens when you are wise and reflect on times you weren't as wise. Involve yourself in this and you will regret.
protestant. not valid.
Newton certainly wasn't a protestant, though I presume you mean Cambridge was. I'm not sure how you can rule out one of the oldest and most prestigious universities as an invalid example based on this completely arbitrary criterion, though.
I mean that Cambridge was like that then and still is largely because of the prots. Dunno about Newton, he knew Hebrew or something, right? He would read the Bible a lot too.
one of us, one of us, gooble gobble.
lol have a you
1) Ask government to something
2) Can people provide that something on their own?
2a) Yes: No need to ask for the government then.
2b) No: Then government can't provide it, because government are people.
3) Government is not necessary.
Yes, this concept of medieval celibacy is kind of odd.
Believing in spooks is a spook, my mentally deficient friend.
there is no divine plan. we are truly free, put in a world of free will that allows us to choose between God and a life of sin. as you can see, most of the world has chosen sin, and are suffering the consequences