Sup Forums, would you consider yourself to be intellectually curious?

An aversion to interacting with members of other ethnicities - as demonstrated by the desire for an ethnostate - seems to be evidence of the contrary inclination, i.e. close-mindedness/fear of the unknown. Would you agree with that assessment?

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They're just ugly and ill-behaved

So you've made up your mind, then?

I dislike other ethnic groups because of knowledge and experience not ignorance

Simply, yes.

You can learn about others without them being in your country raping and killing you.

Surely your knowledge is incomplete, though. You'd need to meet more than 50% of all ethnic groups to make a (somewhat) fair conclusion.

It's a fact

>seems to be
>seems
I maintain these opinions (aversion to interaction with muslims and niggers) due to observation and direct experience - and only a fool would continue to repeat a failed experiment expecting different results.

I've encountered a few exceptions, so obviously not.

>aversion to interacting with members of other ethnicities
Strawman. It's about (((their))) globalist agenda. They want to run a prison planet of border-less, race-less, culture-less, nation-less, identity-less subdued sheep. They make up less than 1% of the world's population, yet look at all they control from the world's finances to the media that brainwashes us.

In short, they use the entertainment and news media to encourage globalism and discourage nationalism and traditional western values. They distort and lie about the present and past in that effort.

The truth about immigration, by the numbers:
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Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:
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Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:
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Cultural Marxism & Social Justice explained:
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Why are we in decline - Cultural Marxism:
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The Jewish role in the refugee crisis:
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Leftist subversion explained by former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov:
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The Jewish role in the porn industry:
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The Holocaust:
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I got my aversion to living near blacks and South Asians after living in South London, quite the opposite

I mean, am I close-minded for not wanting to be in a bear cage with a bear?

No, they are actually beneath the western ideal. Democracy doesnt exist in a sub 100 iq polulation. Plus no one likes niggers much less living near them, objectively speaking of course

That's assuming that all bears want to eat you. There are many bears and many varieties.

Yes, you have to think outside the box user

belief isnt a narrowness, its an understanding that there are truths outside of the contingent universe that are absolute. we propose to construct society from the bottom up, not from the top down.

Go choke and die on jamals cock you idiot

I'm pretty sure the desire for an ethnostate comes from minorities filling up the country and changing it for the worse.

Forgive me for wanting to keep an open mind. Which really doesn't speak well to my supposed idiocy.

Exceptions to the rule

What if instead we developed some general assessments and took random samples of data to make averages so that we don't all have to personally meet every member of every race (which would be impossible anyways)? Perhaps a measure of average intelligence to see how well my people would communicate our ideas with theirs? And maybe a measure of criminality to see if they can follow our rules? And maybe some GDPs per capita from their countries to see how well they can cooperate for their own greater good, and whether or not they can cooperate with us for ours?

Only after reviewing this data could we then make a proper assessment of the various races,a nd I'm sure you will agree.

>All this bullshit.

Just admit that you can't no longer compete in the economical/cultural system that you imposed onto us.

Naturally I'm on the side of data. However, the data is currently incomplete.

wow you're like, such a big brain intellectual dude

Gullibility is not a sign of intelligence. An open mind can be compared to a mighty castle with nobody to defend it, and the gates wide open.

What do you need to see?

This, the experiment has been going way past the point where any reasonably intelligent person could easily draw these conclusions.
Maybe you're just not intelligent enough to satisfy your own "intellectual curiosity" OP.

Hardly. I'm a skeptic, and generalizations are (forgive me the generalization) unreliable.

you just don't have a big enough brain to comprehend his kangly intelligence
what are you, some kind of closed-minded bigot? he thinks on bigger levels than you dude, like how big the universe is an sheeit
fuck outta here

Well, a (well done) IQ study would be a start. This is very difficult to do.
Criminality and GDP are both highly environmental and therefore mostly unhelpful.

That's an absurd definition that defeats itself - for it also applies to the other people. The Chiense and Indians and Nigerians all don't want immigration into their ethnostates.

I don't have time to waste on people who will only damage western society. The more you know and experience about such groups of people, the more you want to be separate from them.

I live in a majority black city (about 40% white, 60% black), you can't go anywhere without running into hip-hop, ghetto trash. You can't even be in your car without your windows shaking because of some nigger "music" blasting right next to you. Or you can't go to a grocery store with out niggers yelling and cursing at each other or at employees.

There are at least 10 violent crimes reported every night on the local news and 9/10 or 10/10 people committing the crimes are black.

There are whole areas of the city that are dangerous at night for both blacks and whites, because of blacks.

Theres even a part of the city that is notoriously hispanic and drug ridden, where illegals are literally living in hotels with 6 other people.

There are three nice parts of the city where it's majority white.

Dislike or hate for ethnic groups has nothing to do with not being curious. It has a lot to do with having to experience a trash "culture" all around you, all the time.

Do you hold up the Chinese and Indians and Nigerians to be the keepers of perfected states and therefore worth emulating?

can I *be* outside the box, particularly the one with the bear in it?

Noticeable effects. Then we have to start talking about root causes, which is still a fairly open question to my mind.

Have to be pretty open minded to end up as a genuine nazi in today's society.

Few have any idea what it even entails outside of straw-men and the average guy does not care for ideologies/political standpoints in the first place.

*fans balls intellectually*

>You can't even be in your car without your windows shaking because of some nigger "music" blasting right next to you. Or you can't go to a grocery store with out niggers yelling and cursing at each other or at employees
Sounds like fun. At least they speak English

Fair point. I hadn't approached it in that way but that is interesting.

You are such a faggot its hard to take you seriously

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Im intellectually curious to race-mix with that bitch

Even the beautiful ones smell.

They smell literally out of shower.
Onion and chicken smell, you can't avoid it

t. Fucked some 9/10 rich niggresses and they still stank

Sorry, should I be translating my arguments to Sup Forums-speak?

I, too, am always the smartest one in the room.

>Sounds like fun
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Every time. No, it's not fun, you cuckold.

Liberal ideas have propped up minority groups not based on merit but based on skin color/ethnicity.

Socialist policies like welfare have allowed for these groups to continue contributing nothing and hurting society while getting their food and housing paid for by tax payers.

Have another niglet? "Congratulations!" says the government "Have more food stamps! Have more welfare! Maybe you can go buy that flatscreen TV so you can watch niggerball after shooting your neighbor at your cousins birthday party last night."

>members of other ethnicities

You do realize she's part white, do you?

Hardly - but then I don't want the west to be populated by Chinamen, Indians or Nigerians so that's irrelevant.

I want western societies to remain western.

That's one argument. Another is that certain minority groups have faced some amount of discrimination for some amount of time. I know that's a radical argument around here, but it makes more sense than the alternative.

Western being west of the Bosphorus?

>close-mindedness/fear of the unknown
>fear of the unknown

Go tell that to asians, arabs or africans who meet other races on daily basis and who become racist as fuck.

You suppose people don't know other races.

If you're so open minded
- what can be the outcome of knowing other races? can you hate them after knowing them?
- why is fearing and rejecting other races bad?
- why should that be good?
- so having an open mind is a virtue? did that idea spawn by itself? who told you that? believing that it's a virtue and the only truth without questioning it is a closed mindedness by itself.

Just go to reddit you will fit in nicely there. They too have an aversion to reality

If I weren't, I would have never found the red pill.

Western civilisation is a cultural inheritence, it's not geogrpahic. Austrlia still has most of it, Rhodesia had it, much of Canada has it but it's disappearing.

Whites are a global minority. So what do you mean by ‘minority’...

>Sup Forums
>Intellectual.

OP, please come visit me in South Africa. I'll personally chauffeur you to the finest multi-cultural establishments, so that you can take in all the diversity. It will be a truly eye opening experience, I assure you!

Again, I don't agree with the notion that we should hold ourselves to the standards of everyone we meet.
As per your other questions
-yes, if you've come to that conclusion rationally
-I wouldn't say "bad." More like "limited."
-I enjoy learning, which includes learning about other people, regardless of their background.
-I developed the belief in the benefits of an open mind through experience, i.e. the collection of knowledge is its own reward, a project that is stunted by closing yourself off to its sources.

When you also consider the disregard of the social exclusion that results from it, you could may be make the case that open mindedness is almost a necessity.

No, because that's a nonsensical jump in logic that you've made based off of nothing other than a (((Sociology))) handout. Some of us live in incredibly diverse areas, have multiple multi-racial friends and family members and this is exactly why we want things to go back to the way they should be. Because I am sick and tired of being surrounded by cultural practitioners of foreign and alien ideologies, these ideas and cultures are not impossible for me to study. And I have studied them. They're garbage and belong in their corner of the globe not mine. So sincerely fuck off.

Minority in the United States.

I respect your opinion. But I haven't learned enough to be satisfied in relegating them to the garbage pile.

You should be concerned about spics outnumbering you

Only 6% left and they'll become majority

What I mean to suggest is that this cultural inheritance is fairly diffuse. I don't have all that much in common with a Russian or a Spaniard.

Why does the cause matter? Let's say we look at some third world nation, and you manage to prove that its poverty is entirely the fault of Western imperialism. So what? Why do we need to accept migrants from that country and grant them citizenship? Unless you can demonstrate that "diversity" is beneficial to white people, then I see no reason to support mass immigration.

ive just used law of averages, every Somali man ive seen irl or in pictures has the weirdest shaped heads. other such things i noticed old Asian people be it mainland or Indians they are terrible on the highways, if im to be asked for spare change its always a white hobo or native. One thing still remains true however regardless i am a equal opportunity hater, and hate all you faggots equally, and expect nothing less from you.

Niggers are worse than spic, you nigger lover.

don't deny we're being overrun by beaners
We and Europe are in the same boat and OP is a big brain nigga who jacks off to how smart he is while the world around him crumbles

I'd eat her dick

Immigration has helped the United States immensely, obviously (as we wouldn't exist without it).

t.Gonzalez

>muh discrimination
Oh, I didn't realize that in 2017, it's white discriminating against blacks that has made them do nothing all day while selling weed or crack?

Or to have far more children than they can support?

Or to drop out of high school, when high school is available for free?

It's whites fault that a black teenager joins a gang instead of studying for a math exam. It's all because of discrimination that soooo many people stay in the ghetto.

Basically, you're saying ethnic groups leach off of society and hurt society because whites discriminated against their grand parents decades ago? Get a grip.

The discrimination argument worked and was valid at certain points in time. But at this point, the only thing that is increasing "suffering" of minorities are programs that give them something, for nothing.

Causes - even those situated in the distant past - have effects, I think you'll agree. You and I didn't spring from nothing.

By bringing mexican drug dealers and rapists? Or do you mean immigration before 1968? Then I'd agree

Yet you explain nothing, you just throw common stuff.

Why should hatred be a limited thing? Where does it spawn from? Why can't that be a good thing?
We hate roaches because they bring filth, disease, and are ultimately a threat. We hate them because we learned and know them.
Can that logic be applied to human races? Explain why.

We all learn from other people, we all like to do that. What about people exceptionnaly shallow? What about dumb people? What about people who already made their minds and who are just pouring heir ideas, closed to discussion?

Being open minded and collecting knowledge,fine. Why should we do that? What does that ultimately brings? What are the benefits?
You're just mindlessly repeating what we're taught. Be open minded, be tolerant, love everyone, peace is the only outcome, never accept other ideas. Repeat after me.

If you were open minded, you wouldn't have come here with your "challenging" question. You would have listened and undestood why people naturally hate other races, not only whites hate.

Go sincerely open your mind, you're not ready, and at least you lack knowledge.

This may come as a surprise but there are people who have immigrated to the US post-1968 that are not drug dealers or rapists.

You're jumping hundreds of years to a completely different situation. Why does Minnesota need more immigrants from Somalia? That's the end result of "diversity," and that's the issue at hand.

Not really fear, just un-interested. If I wanted to experience turkish culture I would go to fucking turkey or move there instead of importing it here.
And you could argue that they come in and assimilate, but I'll believe that when the fuckers stop calling their kids Osman and speaking their ugly language in their kebab shops. Name and language are two improtant aspects of identity.

True, but at the same time blaming someone else for every problem that you have in your life isn't going to change that you're a weak, unmotivated and incapable person.

Are you meaning to argue that ethnic groups can't assimilate into society because at some point in the past there was discrimination against them in some way? Sounds like a scapegoat. And scapegoating whites for the as long as society continues to exist will only lead to discrimination coming back, but stronger.

Anti-discrimination policies like affirmative action and minority scholarships are all over the place. Diversity programs and similar things are very common in companies. People even try to go out of their way to hire minorities in the United States.

But the white man is holding minorities down constantly, right?

There hasn't been a single roach that's cured polio or patented a helpful invention or saved a dog from a burning building. Not one. To suggest that members of other races are ENTIRELY and inherently maleficent is ignorant.

Anti-discrimination programs and outreach can (and, I believe, ultimately will) make a positive impact. At the moment it's still a bit of an uphill battle. Several hundred years of slavery and discrimination is a lot of ballast.

It's not clear that Somalian immigrants can't be helpful to the state's economy, or perform other civic goods.

they're good at shooting white women in Minnesota after getting a badge

Well, at least one of them is.

Would you consider affrimative action programs anti-discrimination?

Do you honestly think that someone, lets say for example born in 1980, generations after slavery, is held down in society to this very day because of slavery?

What may have happened to their ancestors during slavery is not genetically passed down. It would not be the reason why a 37 year old black man or woman is unsuccessful nor would it be the reason that they are successful. (Successful is a lose term, but lets put it at a base value of being able to support themselves economically)

What is an anti-discrimination program? Surely it's not enough to outlaw businesses from making hiring decisions on the basis of race. We have to actively force them to hire non-whites, right?

White people typically vote against mass immigration. It's possible Somalis could make some contributions, but what contribution do they make exactly that justifies overriding citizens' preference by force?

unrelated, do you believe in freedom of association?

yovanna ventura

Poorly done, but yes.

A group of people in this country started at a significant disadvantage, one that arguably did not end until the dissolution of Jim Crow in the 60s. It's that simple. And that's to say nothing of modern discrimination, which is a reality.

Do you have an aversion to interacting with sharks or venomous snakes? you fucking giant idiot

Not really, no. It's sufficient to ensure fair practices.
It seems entirely possible that those votes may be racially/religiously motivated, i.e. not entirely rational.

The truth is: other types of people are not sharks or venomous snakes. They're other types of people. HOW other they are is debatable.

Yes.