700 billion EXTRA for the military industrial complex but we can't have free college for about 47 billion???
Why do you guys keep saying we can't afford it? A low estimate would be 40 billion, a high estimate would be about 70 billion... can you guys stop pretending that we can't afford it?
You guys claim to be fiscally conservative, but if some Jews tell you to go to war, you don't even blink to give them trillions?? Meanwhile actual WHITE Americans are going bankrupt getting jewed by the universities..
>lol if you can't afford it, don't go to college >just get a trade >so don't take out a huge loan >get a job and pay for it >military NEEDS that money to fight "terrorism" >stop being a communist
>college is free >leftists make sure there are no actual selection >everybody go to college >employers expectations goes up >end up with the same situation but more expensive and the only people doing great are the haves that send their kid to expensive schools
Wyatt Barnes
Because education/college isn't about money
Aiden Young
i guess the military also shouldn't have the "right" to leave us trillions in debt for pointless wars for Israel, but you guys never argue about that
John Hall
GIBSME EDUMACATION OR YOU GON DIE WHITE BOI
Jack Young
>ensuring income for commie indoctrination Fuck off
Sebastian Young
Ayn Rand "utopia" is for banana republics
Carter Baker
This. College costs so much now solely because of Federally backed, non-dischargeable student loans. The outstanding student loan debt is around a trillion, last I heard. Meanwhile, quality of education has objectively gone down, because schools are incentivized to pass students so they'll keep attending and keep paying.
Basically, the government is already paying for a huge fraction of college tuition and the student loan crisis is just a teaser of what would happen with free college for all.
We should emulate Japan by getting rid of mandatory high school and retool community colleges as skills-based technical school as an alternative secondary education.
Brody Cook
i'm white and ironically support bernie. you retarded southerners don't mind ((the state)) taking trillions for war from your taxes, but free education is akin to communism
Samuel Brooks
>Everybody has a college degree >College degrees become equal to highschool diplomas Yeah, no. I'd rather work for my degree, and then have it mean something when I graduate.
Leo Davis
>making college free for all wouldn't lead to colleges inflating money to get gibs >making college free for all wouldn't increase college enrollments, meaning way more students then there are now >making college free wouldn't make people professional students who never leave and just acquire worthless degrees to stay out of the real world >making college free wouldn't devalue existing degrees
It isn't even free in Canada, it costs a lot less than the US for residents but it's not free, and they pay out the ass in taxes to support it.
William Harris
Free college fixes nothing. We are already to the point where pretty much any skilled tradesman makes more than the average college grad.
Butchers are making more than college grads now.
Jaxon Gonzalez
>college is free >entry based on grades and admittance testing >number of degrees awarded based on number of valid jobs in that degree fields available
Problem solved
Dominic Thompson
A goodly portion of that 700 billion goes to pay educational benefits to veterans.
You want the government to pay for your education? Join the Army.
Tyler Lewis
This. People don't understand military and defense budget is a large overarching umbrella.
Military and defense budget also includes engineering, relief efforts/aid, infrastructure rebuild locally and abroad, veteran benefits, etc. Military budget is much more than just war, weapons, and R&D.
Robert Ross
>SHOULD Lol
Elijah Murphy
White Nationalist Imperium. Nothing else matters.
Jacob Diaz
I don't get this argument. We already have an easy and accessible way to get free college: enlist.
Parker Morris
>Fight jew wars next to brown people, goyim.
Luis Miller
being in the military does not mean actual fighting
Blake Gonzalez
Colleges are SJW indoctrination centers why should we use tax dollars to give them more business?
Instead of free college give young adults interest free loans to start a business.
Christian Lopez
Ok just be a faggot at home then? I don't give a shit lol.
Gabriel Gomez
Worthless click bait. It's two paragraphs. I'm curious where you come up with free college would cost 47 billion, because I'm sure that figure was pulled from your spincter. Look how bad our government fucked up "affordable healthcare". All they would do is double the cost by making it "free".
Blake Lopez
Extend high school for another 4 years and re-label the auditorium to college. I don't see why tax payers have to fund exorbitant costs for a campus, new stadium, gym etc. Same education, same professors.
Leo Bennett
Anthony Weiner got convicted and sentanced the other day. 21 months in federal pound me in the ass prison.
Alexander Ortiz
So let's say I don't want to go to college. Do I just get a lump sum of money?
Gabriel Peterson
OP is truthspeaking here. Military spending is welfare and profiteering. It’s financial and class warfare in order to keep the elite propped up by not providing free school.
Juan Lewis
It means working for the jews next to ugly brown people to make the world a worse and browner place. Whether you work in accounting or the infantry doesn't matter. Why don't you go lose yet another war on everyone else's dime and cry into your light beer that you don't worshiped enough back home?
Jace Adams
If your career won't easily pay for your job training (which is the purpose of college) then choose a different fucking career, snowflake!
You need to be tough, motivated, smart and systematic in seeking and pursuing a career. If you won't do that. go die.
Ryan Brooks
Racists don't want their schools filled with black people and latinos because they know that we make up the poorer groups of America that would benifit most from free social services like free healthcare and free college.
Isaiah White
Yeah, US and stuff. No one cares about the US & wants to be first, we all claim to be second actually.
Tyler Sullivan
>free college >costs 47 billion
How's that free?
Brandon Stewart
>SJW indoctrination centers
Post your drivers license. Chances are you're 18 or under.
Adrian Bennett
I love the French model. The stupid workers pay 70% taxes so kids can get "free" healthcare and mediocre free college, then they leave the country to go literally anywhere else with lower taxes when they actually start working.
Fucking genuis and totally sustainable
Thomas Peterson
Fuck off shitskin you fucks get more scholarship opportunities than anyone. You all act like you've got so much pride, but just can't resist asking for handouts
Jaxson Evans
you could afford it, by massively removing useless government agencies and posts.
the military,,,needs to be audited, the DoD, but, part of what gives value to the dollar is the military, spending there, is investing, still, needs to be audited
Andrew Powell
Fuck no. Entry level jobs already have unrealistic expectations such as 5 years experience.
John Ward
Poor bait Why not just give free money to everyone while we're devaluing college education even more? Fuck, let's just bomb ourselves already. This is seriously the most retarded fucking argument on the internet. College is already a meme, so let's waste even more tax dollars from wage slaves on making sure everyone is equally indocrinated.
saged
Ian Gomez
That will never happen.
Leo Turner
oops
Hunter Mitchell
We should audit niggers instead. Let's find out how much money is wasted by giving it apes.
James Ward
>government makes it too expensive >government wants more taxes to pay for it Really joggin' the noggin'.
Dylan Morales
lol
we should put them to work, paid work,,,,,just to clarify
Hunter Harris
That's not my point. My point is that racists are against free college, free healthcare, etc. because they know that a majority of the users of these services are black people and latino people, while whites are the ones who pay for it through taxes. If it were whites using a majority of social services and us minorities paying the taxes to fund it you would support socialized healthcare and college.
Nicholas Baker
College is free if you do some time in the military first.
Fuck off lazy ass libtards
Nolan Morris
That was the estimate for Bernie's plan. Which was:
>incoming freshmen's tuition >at public colleges
It did not include >every college age person (only 1/3 go to college) >all four years of college >current students >books >lodging >meals >grants or scholarships >private education
Camden Russell
Ha ha. No it isn't.
Jacob Lee
i already make very good money with my own business. i still think it's bullshit that young people go bankrupt for going to college or because of medical expenses.
Xavier Davis
>Ha ha. No it isn't. hur durr G.I. bill
Zachary Jones
Have you seen the changes to the GI bill? It doesn't cover it all. Try again, fagtron. >t military vet
Julian Nguyen
I think we should move to a trade system like in minecraft. We create currencies with no real world utility which have completely made up and arbitrary values which we trade for and with in cities with other people but would serve as useless in the wild. Oh wait job done
Jackson Hall
Not everyone deserves a college level education Most people cannot comprehend their study in college Free college will make less space for actual competitive and intelligent people. It only makes education quality drops and nobody will have good college education in the end
Nathan Peterson
>let's pay 75% income taxes so a bunch of spoiled cunts who will never work a day in their life can go to art school for free
Let's do it
Tyler Gray
>Meanwhile actual WHITE Americans are going bankrupt getting jewed by the universities.. Sorry to break the news to you, brainlet, but high tuition is caused by the government guaranteeing loans. The career politicians and bureaucrats you are begging to take full control over the education system are the same people who are responsible for the insane tuition. Anyone who isn't retarded should have easily predicted the outcome of putting the risk on the tax payer - giving banks zero incentive to not hand out loans like candy - giving universities zero incentive to keep tuition low.
Landon Ward
>i'm white and ironically support bernie user, I...
Colton Mitchell
Ok, so it would cost 47 this year.
100 billion next year 250 billion the year after that, etc. And at least of half of those degrees with be pointless gender study bullshit all the while stealing money from productive people like me.
Fuck you.
Jordan Flores
No goy we don't want you educated. All the war shit....most of us are just black pilled and want to watch it all burn. youtu.be/KKzBSk6AgZ8
Colton Martin
oh sure make college free for everyone. you can take all the classes you want and change your major whenever you decide to and put it off for a few years and if you fail you can just try again and if youre a minority you will STILL get the job over someone who busted their ass... for free.
Zachary Bennett
All the Brits I met overseas are retards because their first year of college is just a pass/fail affair.
In either case, It'll just make degrees more worthless if everyone can get one.
:/
Jose Harris
free college does not mean everyone gets accepted into college
all Scandinavian countries have free college and have the best education so the "if it's free the quality will drop" is bullshit. why would the quality of education drop if you have the same teachers teaching the same curriculum as before it was free? btw, just because it becomes free does not mean that everyone will now want to attend
before you go on saying it's because they are white... they have a ton of brown and black people in their universities
Joshua Bennett
i meant unironically
Charles Nelson
I would like degrees to not be completely worthless t.Educated centrist
Isaac Brown
No it shouldn't.
Or if it is free, the only degrees paid for are STEM degrees.
Brody Long
who said that it would be without controls and requirements? every federal program that offers "free shit" has requirements and cost controls
Ian Jenkins
Free, govt funded, 4-8 year commie indoctrination camps?
No thanks
Brody Green
Here's my idea, 0 extra for the military industrial complex and 0 for your gibsmedat. Taxation is theft.
Jason Walker
Things that are "free" lack any value
Jordan Lee
OP kinda right
Juan Gomez
Free college is absolute nonsense. Half of people who enroll never earn a bachelor's degree, and of those who do, it takes them about 6 years to do so instead of the traditional 4. Outside of business, teaching, medicine, and becoming a professor, there is really no real financial incentive to go to college. What people really mean when they say free college is "I want to go party for 6 years and hook up while I study something so easy I don't need to do any work outside of class and I don't want to pay for it!".
Samuel Taylor
who said it would? obamacare made shit more expensive and its "regulated" welfare medicaid medicare SSD SSI all the same shit and a million ways to drain the shit out of the system. Idealism is a young mans game
Aiden Stewart
how the fuck would having a degree be worthless? if you get accepted into an engineering program and do well passing with flying colors, why would your degree be worthless because it was payed for by the government? why do you retards assume that free college = accepting people into any program they want? if college was free you wouldn't have people that can't pass basic math getting accepted into STEM programs.
Charles Jones
Sure, give away free college. But only to top students. Then they lose their scholarship and have to pay any used money back in their GPA drops in college.
Protip, only upper class whites and Asians will get free college.
Elijah Ortiz
>you're racist because you don't want to pay your money for gibmedats for us brown people who already leech off you Kys nigger
William Hall
>College becomes free >Now everyone gets to pay for your 4 years of vacation and lack of marketable skills
Elijah Harris
>im white and not retarded >oops i meant im white AND retarded
Aiden Rodriguez
If you want free college, social security or free healthcare go live in euroope. Or better yet go create a state law to pay for it in your state. The ONLY things the federal government should be involved in is the military, law enforcement, and transportation (roads and nasa) everything else is up to the states and any change from that is un-American. We should only go to war when we declare it so the kike wars of veitnam Iraq and afganistan don't count. The kikes should be taken out of government but once we do that we wont replace them with fucking socialism. We'll go back to the way it was meant to be under the constitution.
Jonathan Cook
Cause there will be a gorillion engineers, fucktard. There are plenty of people who would qualify to go to college but can't afford it or won't take on the debt.
Andrew Price
>Protip, only upper class whites and Asians will get free college.
This is how it already works. The top percent of students already earn scholarships from private organizations that helps pay for education and it works out just fine.
Nathaniel Russell
Obamacare was drafted by the Heritage foundation for private insurance companies. Regular people had NO SAY in it. it was pushed by corporate democrats and even some corporate republicans. it doesn't even have cost controls. most of the people who opposed single-payer were democrats and republicans who had insurance donors. regular people, right or left, had nothing to do with it.
Idealism is spending trillions fighting "terrorism" and the "war on drugs"
Levi Robinson
I'm all for free college if we get rid of free primary education...the current system does nothing but churn out idiots with a meaningless high school diploma...the majority of high school grads can barely read and write at an 8th grade level....so yeah, cut off the free daycare system that we call public schooling and I'm all for allocating that money to free college for the qualified...
Jason Lee
It's called oversaturation. It's already occurring in nursing. There's an overabudance of nurses with 2 year degrees so now the associates degree is nearly worthless in that field when it was actually sufficient enough a decade ago. It's called degree inflation.
Jordan Lopez
Doesn't cover all of what? School and living expenses for a few years? Yes it does retard
Isaiah Diaz
>plenty of intelligent Americans are qualified to become engineers but can't afford it >lol lets import STEM majors from India and China because we have a shortage of people in STEM in America
Jason Torres
This is our president now. The next few years are a fucking joke.
Isaac Anderson
Chinese and Indians aren't being imported because there's a 'shortage' they're being imported because corporations want cheaper and workers they can abuse.
Cooper Ramirez
You're a fucking joke
Adrian Gomez
Maybe if it wasn't a liberal indoctrination camp for young people it would be worthy of funding. As it is higher education spits out communists who hate their own country. Make them pay through the teeth I say.
Henry Roberts
since when do regular people have a say in what a college does?
Lincoln White
We really need to start looking for an answer to the liberal question.
Adrian Long
>he believes were importing foreign STEM majors because we don't have enough here
A lot of these guys are having to train their own cheaper replacements. I bet they could do those jobs.
Joshua Brown
>supporting bernie
No amount of free education would prevent you from being the retard that you truly are on the inside.
Nicholas Brown
Yup, education doesn't increase the low IQ he was destined to have genetically.
Ethan Williams
Shortage of labor means your employer is competing to keep you around with decent benefits and higher wages instead of YOU needing to take a personality test and implanting a microchip in yourself just to get a fourth interview. A 'shortage' of labor is only bad for corporations that abuse their labor pools.
Justin Stewart
Ok free college but only $5000 Per semester.
Christopher Smith
we don't. only a couple of fields have surpluses like biology. there really aren't enough american NATIVE engineers. and it's also these corporations that want cheaper labor that don't want more Americans to go to college so they can hire HB1 workers.
Ryan Roberts
>The poor want to get some valuable skills under their belts and help swell the ranks of our domestic workforce in the global economy? Sell them into debt for life or make them pay their way through it themselves, dammit!
that's a bold strategy cotton, lets see if it pays off
Lincoln Cooper
We are number one in one thing military. We should give that up for free college so we lose super power status. After that our credit rating collapses and are country isn't worth 2 shits. Yes. I wanna burn it too, gimme dat!
Isaac Rodriguez
hay fuck face respond
Nolan Barnes
>keep feeding your military at the expense of everything else