Libertarian Thread

With Trump approval rating being the lowest of any president recorded, is 2020 our chance? Maybe the electorate will be more receptive to our platform this time with the alt-right dragging down the Republican Party and the Democratic Party being as uninspiring as usual.

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Only if it supports white independence

>Maybe the electorate will be more receptive to our platform this time with the alt-right dragging down the Republican Party and the Democratic Party being as uninspiring as usual.
>our platform
nice try Schlomo
Libertarianism the kikiest dindu nuffin garbage excuse of an ideology being pushed today.

As long as Muslims don't initiate violence against other individuals, it's compatible with libertarianism.

Depends if the Dems pick another loser like Zukk. And if Trump fails to do anything significant. And most important they pick a good candidate.

Still it's hard to defeat a sitting President, they've got home field advantage. It's a long way off anyway.

It'll also help if liberals stop calling themselves libertarians and saying stupid shit like that.

A bunch of quasi-anarchists trying to centrally organize... OK.

not if you pick p/vp picks like you did this last time around.

get someone as close to ron paul as possible for both positions or gtfo

His approval rating is about where his favorable rating was when he was elected President. 40ish.

If you think he's vulnerable and Libertarian could win, primary him. A 3rd party will never win the Presidency unless he can part the seas. Vote 3rd party as a middle finger to the GOP or the Dems if you wish, but imagining you can even think about winning for a moment is retard tier.

The libertarian movement has no future in the US. It has no electorate.

wait...
if i believe in small government
private ownership
not fucking with people and people not fucking with me
have conservative cultural/social beliefs
im a kike?
huh?

i dont care which party does it.
stop the military spending.
lower spending in general and stop debt accumulation.
end the fed and stop fucking the dollar by printing uncontrollably.
i dont care which party does this.

Libertarian party is trash and non-libertarians are brainlet/too-retarded-to-breathe tier. We need a Pinochet

since when did libertarianism become a bad thing?
wasnt this a pro ron paul board in 2008 and 2012?
wtf happened?
are you shills?

We grew up.

More like you regressed by 10 years.

wtf does that mean?
enlighten as to which part of libertarianism is too idealistic.

The other two parties could forget to show up, and the lolbertarians would still get 1%.

"lolbertarians" are pure republicans. last time i checked ron paul had to be ignored not to win.
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Libertarians realized they had to share their freedom with the browns and this hurt their fragile white sensibilities.

those were never true libertarians.
i could not give less of a fuck if my neighbor is brown, purple, or green.
just leave my property, my income, and my rights alone.
if that person does not commit a violent act, does not demand a welfare check, and shuts the fuck up at night i dont care.

i feel like there are more people like me here.
somethings happened though.

any non libertarian care to debate me?
i know for a FACT that classical libertarianism is the most pure ideology with the least flaws.

we need a candidate who believes people cant be denied services for any reason.

I.E: No bakers should deny a wedding cake to same-sex couples.

what the fuck?
private companies get to deny whoever and however. there should be no government regulation forcing any private business to serve anyone.

if the business wants to lose money let them.
your idea is an ideological flaw for a libertarian.

why would you think the darkies would ever leave you alone?

"No, bakers can't deny a wedding cake to same-sex couples." -Gary Johnson (Apr 2016)

yet this is the asshole you guys picked

there are more important things than capitalism, such as family and culture

You're likely the same type of faggot who thinks it's within GoDaddy's rights to ban DailyStormer from their servers. Fuck off, you hypocritical sack of shit.

reminder that lolbertarians are hard left progressives by nature
right wing conservatives leaning towards lib values are paleo

im here with you user

>what's a leppo?

Why does the Libertarian Party logo remind me of a moon pie?

Frankly, as long as the libertarian party plays the false equivalency game of saying "Republicans are as bad as Democrats", you're not going to get anywhere. A good 75% of the right wing in the US are at least somewhat libertarian by nature, and the remaining 25% are likely at least somewhat receptive to libertarian ideals. The Republican party is bad, but trying to spin it to be "as bad as the Democrats", is just laughably stupid. Ultimately, the US right wing fully supports the 1st, and 2nd amendment, and from everything I've seen, the last time they did anything constitutionally dubious, was under Bush with the patriot act, which violated the 4th amendment.

i think hes a fucking disgrace. and ive been a libertarian for 20 years.

i guess ill have to use my silenced sig a few times. thats all good.

who says you cant have them? i dont care what your values are. go ahead and live.

wtf is wrong with being progressive? i like progress. individualism has fueled democracy, science, reason, economic freedom.
youre confused.

my fucking man. finally. saved.

faggot did not know the main battleground city in a country we are wasting millions on. faggot. absolute idiot.

the libertarian party has more than earned my vote in 2020 and maybe the midterm, the two party system is broken and these morons need to become unemployed

whats your fucking point? why are republicans not fixing the healthcare? why are the republicans neocons crying for more military spending?

i tell you this. there are few real REPUBLICAN STATESMAN in this country.
want to see a good voting recording?
go look at ron paul (hes an exception).

They were in their right.

all private companies have the right to ban.
the catch is they face the consequences.
no bailouts. no regulation. private companies are private. if we agree on that we can shake hands.

really i dont buy any polls...and wont for a very long time given what the pollsters all said about the election. Yeah isnt it interesting the president they said could never get elected based on their polls is now the worst/least liked president EVAH based on their polls....

no one sees that for some reason.

>the only party that would actually abolish the fed
>kikiest

I don't understand you kids. You fight between the two parties that both slurp israels cock and then you call the party ignored by kike owned msm "kikiest". Get off this board little boy

>muh wedding cake

How's that deportation of Muslims and Mexicans going? And that wall? Kike

Libertarians are pedophiles

>why are republicans not fixing the healthcare
They're fucking stupid
>why are the republicans neocons crying for more military spending?
They're too fucking stupid not to be able to get rid of the wasteful spending in the military, so they can have the same useful shit, without spending more.

>whats your fucking point?
Like it or not, the Republicans are capitalist, and the Democrats are socialist. Until you can figure out a way to replace, correct, or co-opt the Republicans, or get rid of the Democrats, you're flipping a coin by fighting both sides. Head you're dead, tails and you've got a broken leg.

say that to my face and ill fck your daughter.

is 2020 our chance? lol no

2009 called and they said that they want to remind people that Sup Forumsacks moved on to white identity politics.

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Honestly, the smartest thing the libertarian party can do, is the run people in the Republican primaries, and pull the party further into the libertarian direction. Now is a good time to do it, as it looks like there's a split coming in the Democratic party.

they voted against it when they knew it was getting passed to grandstand. now they hesitate. i think there is some big pharma involvement here.

"too stupid." yeah. john mccain is "too stupid." no. they know what they are doing.

"republicans are capitalists"
listen bud, capitalism is meaningless when its backed by a socialist welfare state and a government that infringes on my personal rights.
when republicans start solving the problems (dont give a fuck if the problems were created by them or the dems) i wont vote red or blue.

the lesser of two evils argument is faggetry. this country is slowly going to shit and its because of the people who compromise on their principals and beliefs. dont think like that.

yes.
we are the TRUE REPUBLICANS.
most reasonable people are:
1. fiscally conservative
2. socially and culturally progressive (realize that censorship and infringement is a slippery slope with a few exceptions)

Push for a smaller more elite military at the federal level, and an increase in National Guard forces. This will decentralize a big portion of the bureaucracy, and take the country back into a small government direction.

The Libertarian Party is trash right now. Gary Johnson was a weak candidate and now the party is trying too hard to pander to social leftists to gain votes. No wonder Ron Paul refuses to endorse anyone from that party.

>ron paul had to be ignored not to win.
Yes, we know that the kiked establishment did not want him. Unlike Trump, he didn't have millions and name recognition.

Austin Petersen is doing that right now. He left the Libertarian Party and is running as a Republican for Senate and instead of seeing the benefits to this the party is just stamping their feet and calling him a traitor.

The Libertarian party is dead... my only regret is not jumping on the trump train sooner and being fooled for too long by cuckold (((Gary Johnson)))

wow. you made more sense right there than 99 percent of congressman talking about the military budget.

do "we" know? i see a lot of faggots on this board who werent even here in 2012 and think liberarianism (classical) is kike shit.

>they voted against it when they knew it was getting passed to grandstand. now they hesitate. i think there is some big pharma involvement here.
Most likely.

Honestly, I think for most of the problems, the solution is to shift power away from DC, and back to the states. Self reliant states will prosper, and miss managed states will flounder. It will make the nation at large more meritocratic.

we need to infiltrate republican party. ron paul fucking dominated the debates. if we have another ron they will sooner or later have to report him.
rand is weak compared to his father. he compromises and has no real passion.

yes. they right to leave the union should be real and power should be more local. the more local the power the more accountable the politician. i want to be 2 hours at most away from the faggots that are writing my laws and printing my money.

check my fucking trips btw.

In my mind, crony capitalist are criminals, as are socialist. Both are thieves, and love to hide in crowds. DC is the biggest "crowd" there is. Moving the halls of power back to the states, makes the crowd easier to see through. Shitty metaphor I know.

>implying muslims would ever stop initiating violence against others

The smarter libertarians are. The Libertarian Party is mostly a bunch of clowns and rejects. I don't blame Austin Petersen for jumping ship.

completely agree.
when i know where you live and you sell my information to facebook, devalue my money, spend my tax dollars on state ambitions, and do all the other dumb shit done by congressmen i can fucking find you and make you pay (i wont be the only one).

I have to disagree there. Rand, gives up battles he can't win to save face for ones he can win later. You just need more libertarians in the republican party up there, so he has more leverage. With more libertarian congressmen, the neo-cons are forced to give ground more often to the libertarians in order to pass legislation.

the bigger the base we can touch the better. our ideas and will win in the end.
ideological evolution favors us.

the moment you compromise on a single thing is the moment i know that you will compromise again. there are not enough "libertarians" in congress atm for us to win anything over neocons. we raised the military budget this year by the amount the entire russian government spends on its forces.

2016 was a big chance but the party DROPPED THE FUCKING BAAAAAALL

sad. Rand was the obvious best choice but god damn the average voter is retarded

how good was rand compared to his father?
i agree on gay johnson, though.

It's why I hope Petersen wins in Missouri. That'd be a huge aid to Rand and other non-neocon Republicans. I'm gonna keep an eye on my own state of Tennessee too since Corker said he won't be running for reelection. My state is bad about voting for RINOs so I wanna vote for someone different if possible.

libertarianism excuses moral degeneracy

how? moral degeneracy is a subjective term. i could argue that fucking your wife is degenerate. who defines this retarded concept?

Ron's better but Rand's still better than the huge majority of Republicans.

>libertarianism excuses moral degeneracy
Libertarianism, tolerates moral degeneracy, as "degeneracy" can be defined by anyone, and without a degree of tolerance, punished by anyone. Want Sharia law? Not being able to tolerate things you don't like, is how you get it.

being better than most republicans is like getting a 10th place ribbon in a track and field race. dont mean shit.

preach.

P E T E R S E N A T E

Make Taxation Theft Again

Whoever runs would be best to
1: don't get into a fight with Trump
2: attack neocons
3: focus on economics, and not social issues
4: point to their Democratic opposition's ties to corporations that lobby. (they'll have ties)
This will keep Trump on their side, as he hates most of the neocons too. The attacks on their dem opposition's ties to corporations, will drive economic lefties away from the polls. No point in going after them on social issues. Social lefties are going to look at anyone even somewhat rightish as if they're Hitler anyway.

Not only was he the best republican candidate , he was the best libertarian candidate as well

That statue will fall, and liberty goes with it in 2020.

sure. but it isnt like there are that many good libertarian candidates. rand has voted pro war on a few things. i dont fully trust him.

we need a second ron paul and i think we can agree on this.

>What's Aleppo?
Now fuck off.

of course we can agree on that.

Its our duty to help pro freedom and limited government go mainstream.

tell your friends

oh i do. i actually tell people to find a thing they can out reason me on. besides overly emotional teenage girls who cant understand the pro life argument most people have promised to look into libertarian philosophy.

He sponsored an AR giveaway and called out Claire McCaskill for voting for an assault weapons ban that would have banned AR.

Zucc said GULAG FOR YOU. 30 DAYS.

Also, farcebook gave Claire McCaskill $15,800 for re-election according to OpenSecrets.org.

Farcebook silences US senate candidates while Zucc is in the news talking about "fighting election interference".

This shit should be all over the news.

its surprising how receptive people are, its just they are never exposed to any opposing/different views nor are they given the cognitive tools to process them on their own.

so they vote with pure emotion.

true. thats why i make them feel like their liberties are the single MOST IMPORTANT THING and should be a priority over ALL ELSE. once they accept that they are basicly a few logical points away from libertarianism. that how powerful this ideology is.

man. when i read this i wen through entirety of fox, cnn, msnbc, and cbs and could not find a thing. and this is not the only.

look up cia bulgarian weapon trade and open first link.

This is exactly the kind of sketchy shit I like to read. Thanks.

Well, I don't LIKE it... you know what I'm saying, I'm sure.

Islam is also compatible with Communism.

And Socialism.
And Nationalism.

i feel ya. it excites me that the truth is being revealed but then i remember that this is the cia, that this could be a blockbuster story, and that everyone is ignoring it. fuck it all.

ron paul has a channel on youtube whete he talks every day. ron paul liberty report. found it there. they interviewed the woman who wrote the piece.

Not really surprising. From what I've read though, her seat is "at risk", though given the district, it's likely if it is taken, it will be by a neocon.

Figures... RP would be all over something like that. I usually watch Liberty Report, but must have missed that one. Gonna have to go back and look for it.

Man, there's just something about Daniel McAdams that rubs me the wrong way, though. LOL

the libertarian party with gary "what is aleppo" johnson are not real libertarians, they're establishment liberatarians

also trump has an approval rating of like 36% in mainstream polls (which have a tendency of being innacurate to support establishment agendas) which is not the lowest ever. you are confused

What is Aleppo?

lol. i get where youre coming from. as long as theres someone i dont care though.

Even Aleppo Johnson would have been much better than Trump and Clinton.

I agree with you %100

Maybe if libertarians didn’t always shoot them selves in the fucking foot they’d have a chance, but no that party is fucked

>With Trump approval rating being the lowest of any president recorded,

Kill your self. His rating is highest ever. If the last election taught us anything it's that polls are absolute horse shit meant to persuade the people.

AP has managed to keep Hawley and the rest of them out, at least for now. There's only one other guy announced and he's not doing shit, looks like.

I'm sure soon McConnell will be coming with bags of money. AP just made goal (200k, I think) for the quarter, though.

Lulz
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