Give me one reason not to become a hedonist/nihilist in this modern society...

give me one reason not to become a hedonist/nihilist in this modern society? are some of you niggers actually converting to christianity in 2017?

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Read up on Nietzsche

Pleasure isn't the only intrinsic good.
I would say existence is intrinsically good.

If you have to ask, then you already know.

>are some of you niggers actually converting to christianity in 2017?
I did 6 or so months ago and I feel great.

Do you truly feel good after waking up face down in your own vomit, hungover? Or do you just laugh it off because you don't want to admit you're an addict.

Hedonism is a flawed philosophy. There are plenty of religious arguments against nihilism. I don't really have a secular argument against nihilism.

I guess the purpose of life could be the search for knowledge or working for the greater good. Idk.
The purpose of life could be affirming life.

before you do this read and understand what he is criticizing first or youll end up like all the rest of the degenerates who use him as their excuse for their self destructive behavior

Your ancestors and your kids

3 girls one cup (OP pic related)

you outdoing the jews son!

yeah, it's pretty funny how people cite nietzche this way when he wanted people to do the exact opposite

Low life expectancy.

CRISPR

People who have been there say it's not worth it.

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Because you're a fat, ugly autist and you're not going to get laid even if you tried. The only lifestyle for you is MGTOW.

I really want to give up my degenerate ways and become the ubermensch but it feels impossible. Where do I start

What is Master-Slave morality and how does changing the moral paradigms NOT mean transcending the destructive dichotomy.

Having the slave class adopt the Master Morality and the master class adopt the Slave Morality does NOT create the ubermensch.

Read Nietzsche yourself.
>God is dead and we killed him
Was NOT a celebratory statement, it was a lamentation. Nietzsche was deeply upset over the death of faith.

when you make those decisions, you always end up paying for it down the road. trust me. while it's tempting to want to go out with a bang and think nothing happens after you die, you would be missing the point if you think being a decent non degenerate person would save you from a trip to hell post death.
however, understand that fun is always paid for in one form or another, be it money, your emotions, other people's emotions, and some pay a much higher prize without them knowing.
im not full blown christian but i respect the bible and the message it tries to teach people and i see it as a really useful tool to help me cope with this world when im feeling lonely. the thought that there is someone, something there that cares about me, that loves me brings comfort and warmth to my heart even when the days are the darkest and nothing seems right. i guess this is why people turn to religion and faith. the world's just too crazy of a place for your human mind to make sense of it all. and even if you could/when you do, it's a maddening experience, you'll wish you have never known the truth, to be honest.
we're all searching for a purpose in life, but it doesn't have to be at the cost of someone else. how would you feel if someone shows up at your door and say "here, foot this bill, this is how much i partied last night.", would you nod and agree? of course not.

They are larping leaf.
Don't do something stupid though. Be responsible.

I think a lot of the self-loathing millenials just hate life for different reasons, and probably tried to read Nietzsche, didn't get it after about 30 pages, and gave up.

My tip is this: read Zarathustra, and then read 'Ride the Tiger' by Evola, as well as 'Revolt against the Modern World'.

the world is hell, there is no respite, no afterlife. there’s no glory in athiesm or christianity, i dont find beauty in nature, the galaxies like the fag athiests say they do. nothing is worthwhile everything is agony. the only thing that feels meaningful is honor and dignity which is also a farce. bringing someone into the world is a very cruel act. hedonism is not the answer either . emptiness and clearness. void is the only good thing. dizziness, sweat, snot, feces, nausea, vomit, gravity, depression, the flesh prison is an utterly horrible thing. pleasure is passing and pointless, never enough.

What is the state of your room? If the answer isn't clean, start there.

of course it feels impossible, you're not suppose to become it. that is the calculus we all have to perform, but you can damn well try and get near it.
you cannot turn your life 180 degrees overnight, and even if you could, it's going to be so crazy and wild that you will not be able to adjust.
i spent 3 years going from 110lbs to 140lbs by lifting weights, running, and exercising. 30 lbs of muscles later i still dont feel big, inside my mind im still a skinny, scrawny, weak dude. now this is 3 years of every night looking at the mirror, trying to cheer myself up and push through. now imagine how hectic your life will be if you one day wake up and you're already there.
start changing the little things that you know you can change. start by cleaning your room, start by getting up early, start by respecting schedules and routines. because if there is one thing you will ABSOLUTELY need to turn your life around, it's not talents, it's not intellect, it's not luck, it's not money, it's consistency, and you can ONLY be consistent if you have the will power.
not everyone is born with great will power. but will power is just like muscles. you are weak and tempted by things around you at first. but the more you practice disciplining yourself, the more you will build up the will power to survive when life tries to knock you off course. not only you need to train your real muscles, but you also have to train the mind-muscles. a man with just flesh without a mind is not a man, merely a tool. remember this.

I don't know anyone who's converted to Christianity. The churches by where I live are empty.

>Secular argument against nihilism

Immanuel Kant, Hegel, Schultz and indeed Nietzsche answer this question.

Matthew 6:6

You misunderstood his comment. He meant the same thing as you.

Pleasure suffering boredom is the cycle. However suffering is the strongest

Amen

Christians should attend to churches to meet with experienced people who could teach them some things.

He despise d shitskin kike on a stickianity and was based

no doubt, the couple times i went to church were pretty enjoyable experience. the pastors were great and i enjoyed the message. though i dont think christians should beat themselves up for not attending or having poor attendance. and coming from someone who was never baptized, i'd like to think that i have a connection to god if i believe in him and try to understand what he wants us to do. although mine would probably be like a 56k modem while people with more wisdom are probably running on fiber optic. i dunno, probably the best and most honest feeling about my faith that i could describe to you.

He wasn't a christcuck, retard

>give me one reason not to become a hedonist/nihilist in this modern society?

Easy. Do it for her.

Werner Herzog is that you?

>though i dont think christians should beat themselves up for not attending or having poor attendance

Begone Satan. God hates lazy people.

Do it for a fictional kike whore

At least you experienced it a few times. There are literally no serious protestant churches where I live. Either catholic churches or some retards who think that eating meat is a sin.

I won't give you any reason you piece of shit, if you want to be a degenerate then die by choking on alcohol.

I support you OP. Nihilism is the only philosophy that truly makes sense. Fuck your legends and your myths.

there really is no reason not to become a hedonist

if there was a god he would have done something already. we've got billionaire trust fund babies all around the world doing it, living full and long lives.

the wicked don't pay for their sins and never will. they made up god to make some money and made some rules up so stupid people keep being poor even though they generally work the hardest. (sweat shops, shoe factories, toy factories etc

god doesn't care or doesn't exist

so fuck what you want, do what you want and don't get arrested until you die. it won't change anything

I haven't posted on Sup Forums in nigh a year but you have inspired me to write a blogpost about the shit I've accomplished since making small changes. It's really incredible if you put yourself in my shoes.

1. Four years ago I was a depressed NEET

1. Now I have a full time job
2. I have a library and read when I can (Read No Excuses by Brian Tracey)
3. I am going to school
4. I am studying to become a personal trainer
5. I've been dating women for the first time ever this year
6. I quit porn, masturbation and mostly all video games about six-eight months ago.
7. My mind is finally overcoming withdrawl symptoms from porn and masturbation, feels fucking good. I almost caved from anxiety that the brain creates in response but I still made it. It took eight fucking months but I did it and I can focus. This is probably the hardest thing I've done in my life to be honest, I remember laying on my floor suffering with anxiety just wanting it to stop.
8. I've begun helping my friends overcome many of their problems
9. I've finally gotten to a place to study the bible again, and let me tell you it's the most important guide out there for living your life the best way you can.

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>bible is an important guide

lol

get the fuck out forrest gump dipshit

Read some Vikernes and watch Thulean Perspective

If it makes sense then you should end your life right now.

You worship a shit skin book

That's just your opinion friend

>read books
no thanks I have much more fun things to do with my life
>moralcuck logic
>being a hedonist means you must be an alcoholic
there are plenty of other ways to have fun if you feel the negative affects of getting drunk outweigh the benefits
>save you from a trip to hell post death
>There are plenty of religious arguments against
believing in imaginary friends that there is no scientific evidence of is terribly flawed
>ancestors
they don't care, they're not watching, they don't exist anymore
>kids
don't have any and hopefully never will
actually if you eat well and get a little exercise, NEET life is far safer and healthier than going outside, driving, inhaling secondhand smoke and airborne bacteria, risking getting attacked by jealous niggers, etc.
also if you work for 12 hours per day (including paperwork, housework, shopping, maintaining the appearance of your typical normalfag vanity possessions and upstanding christcuck citizen lifestyle) you are wasting one half of your life working instead of having fun.

average day in the life of a NEET:
>14 hours of fun with all your free time
>2 hours of work (housework, showering and poopy time, cooking, shopping, etc.)
>8 hours of sleep

average day in the life of a wageslave:
>12 hours of work
>5 hours of free time
>7 hours of sleep

don't waste your life, find a way to get on welfare or move back in with your parents and become a NEET today!

good for fucking you

And you don't worship anything because you're a brainlet.

Name the 5 books which have shaped your philosophy.

What you might think of as hedonism is really only hedonistic for a very small percentage of people. I've tried it and I felt like shit. Not because of any guilt, but because it's not a part of me. Nihilism would lead to a similar place. These ideas have consequences.

>believing in imaginary friends that there is no scientific evidence of is terribly flawed

LOL

>He doesn't read
You are truly a waste of space

And you worship some random cuckold who can't even prove non-existence of God
>God doesn't exist
>why do you think so?
>because I said so lol

MGTOW: hedonism minus the pussy

What's with you blackpilling faggots tonight? Fuck you, some people acutely try to feel the rush of accomplishment too

He also wasn't a hedonist. He drank exclusively water and SOMETIMES milk.
Yes, you're right, he hated what Christianity did to Europe. He also hated alcohol and said no one should drink it.

Weird huh?
Almost like it has some sort of legitamacy

Enjoy destroying your body, mind, wallet, and relationships. Also you'll probably get charged with rape at some point.

Because the most profound thing a degenerate amoralist can possibly say when other people or themselves are murdered, dismembered, tortured, or disembowled is "I don't like this".

Pathetic.

I'm reading your shitpost right now senpai, I just don't waste my time reading books

I worship Wodin because I feel his presence and have seen his power first hand and you believe a shit skin desert religion

mold doesn't have legitimacy becasue a lot of it grew in my wall

Read some books retard.

Pleasure is a means to an ends, not the ends itself. Pleasure is meant to encourage survival but when people find a shortcut they fall into the trap.

regressive
degeneracy

someone needs more of their hospitals held hostage

was hilarious watching your innocents killed for profit becasue you kept saying some dumb shit

>cant get as many pleasurable things as others
>lets take them from others with a cult

i want you dead

I wouldn't trust a nihilist under the age of maybe 60 or 70. In the form that I understand this OP's post to include (as a companion or synonym for hedonism), it's just an intellectual cop out. Keep searching, reading, and thinking before you eat that particular shit sandwich.

Good for you. I'm inspired.

a lot of people were force fed the idea that those hedonistic things are great and is everyone can have it. like casual sex for example. if you're a woman, you can have it pretty easily, but if you're a man and you're not attractive, there is no free sex for you. and even for the people who have done it, not all of them feel good afterward.
so really it's just a small minority of people who broadcast this shit to make people think engaging in those stuff is great. maybe that's how they cope with the fact that they are doing absolutely terrible things to themselves and to each other. you're not the odd one if everyone's doing it.

There is no such a thing as Wodin, you just made this shit. Stop being edgy retard.

You're a NEET, your entire day is a waste of time.

And this, my friends, is the pinacle of Western civilization: when Man has forsaken everything and everyone but himself and no longer strives for anything.

I feel pity for the older you.

>go to the forest to study how trees work because the wageslave education system told me to
>miserable and want to die
>trip and fall in a pit that's full of hundreds of thousands of video games and bootleg DVDs and blurays, a lifetime supply of my favorite foods, hundreds of terabytes of porn and unlimited electricity, all for free

should I climb back out of the pit and get back on the miserable wageslave path again?

you're only wasting time if you're not pleasuring yourself in some way

You can either kill yourself or try to find meaning in your life

The choice is yours...

Why not just kys OP. fucking faggot

here you go

Right, and that's why I told OP that what he thinks of as hedonism probably wouldn't have that effect if he tried it himself. Some people may find themselves getting a lot more pleasure out of worshipping Christ or working their asses off in a system that doesn't really care about them than they would if they were just snorting coke and fucking women all day. Everything gets old and you see what it does to these people like the early rock stars. People enjoy things that have or what they perceive as having higher meanings. They might not worship the pleasure that they get from being religious, or they might not consider that pleasure the ONLY thing, but they still feel it and appreciate it.

Both of those are meaningless.
Happiness isn't the object of life - Truth is. Happiness is worthless garbage.

You could do life for the lulz. That's probably the only deep meaning that's scientifically backed.

Just live life for the fun of it. There's nothing after it, literally.... so it's not like your in a rush. Enjoy every moment of it.

This is a better philosophy than some overly complicated and flawed idea of jewish space zombies, eternal sin and magic apples.

>are some of you actually converting
I'm "really trying" but no not successfully

>you're only wasting time if you're not pleasuring yourself in some way
Ok, but if you don't understand what struggle is can you really understand pleasure? Or are you just drowning yourself in porn and vidya to make up for some empty void that could be filled by you learning something new, like a language or a skillful hobby.

Fun is what you make of it.

There's more to religion than believing in sky wizards

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>I like to be unhappy, pain and misery are all I enjoy
>happiness is worthless garbage
>*dyes hair black and slits wrists*
okay best of luck to you but I'm going to live the way I want to

you don't need to dedicate your whole life to struggling to understand what struggle is. I went through some hard times for short periods of time before I got on welfare, I don't want to do it again. also video games are a skillful hobby and some day when I feel like it I may learn a programming language so I can make my own video games. especially if the gaming industry crashes from too many people like me pirating games.

The whore one seven hills is the most usurous shit hole on the planet. The cult of boy raping pedophile occultists is something you should worship at all.

God can only ever, ever, ever be internal of yourself.

>the minute you infuse an external material process into an internal spiritual economy

You've already corrupted the process.

>Congrats on the self improvement

Don't waste it by falling for the shit hole. If you want more, study the society of Jesus, the Pope's army and their movements into the Asia pacific 500 years ago. The things you will learn...

Honestly I hypothesise that Sup Forums is the meeting point of two seperate Internet cultures.

One of them is the new-right-wing intellectuals. These are people that grew up watching dawkins debates, value truth/science, started out as leftists but ended up right wing after seeing the migrant crisis or being redpilled on race / the economy (since 2008).

The OTHER group is literally what the liberals think the right is completely composed of. Slack toothed low IQ mutt-white individuals living in the center of America with an average income of under 60k in a family of 4, a strong belief in Jesus Christ who they believe was an anglo saxon living in bronze age Jerusalem.

The mixture of these two groups usually results in these threads where one group starts quoting scripture (really no different to muslims that start chanting in arabic when you tell them muhamad was a pedo).. and and the other group repeatedly gets accused of being 'fedoras'... as if this was some form of valid argument.

Someone post that old pic of the eagle ripping up a book while screaming that “reading was for faggots” please.

Exhibit A.

Try not to regret your life's choices when life continues longer than you expected it to.

If you're not gonna do anything about your life and only want an excuse to sulk then you might as well just neck yourself now.

>>The OTHER group is literally what the liberals think the right is completely composed of. Slack toothed low IQ mutt-white individuals living in the center of America with an average income of under 60k in a family of 4, a strong belief in Jesus Christ who they believe was an anglo saxon living in bronze age Jerusalem.

those people aren't on this part of the internet m8. i don't even think they're on the internet at all, and if they are, they're all in the normie parts like zuccbook

>you don't need to dedicate your whole life to struggling to understand what struggle is.
Didn't say or imply that.

>also video games are a skillful hobby
Ok, that's your opinion. But you're probably going to stick by it so we'll just leave that where it is.

>some day when I feel like it I may learn a programming language so I can make my own video games
>some day
Why not tomorrow? Or are you too busy jacking off all day to pick up a book and learn a programming language? Sure your schedule is swamped.

>especially if the gaming industry crashes from too many people like me pirating games.
Who's to say your shit won't be pirated by dudes like you sitting around all day claiming there going to make their own games some day.

Are you going to do what you claim you are, or will you continue to leach of others?

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>intellectuals

Lol

>linking to JBP is quoting scripture

Seriously ignorant

Nihilism and hedonism (I wouldn't refer to them as nihilism/hedonism because there is at least one important difference between them) are the types of ideologies that I can understand the 16-24 yo demographic would embrace. I did too at the time. But your minds have just barely started to work, and you think there just has to be a simple solution. Cynicism might capture you, or the sloganeering of pop-science and pop-atheism. You'll see that life isn't what you think it is; not even close. What you think it is at 25 will not even resemble what you think it is at 35. Don't fall into the silly sneering and the wise-ass shit. Keep your mind open to a reasonable degree. What you're experiencing is just an intellectual crutch to convince yourself that you really do have some idea of what the hell is going on. You don't. Wait and see what happens with your mind before you start making any grand statements. You're welcome. -Dad.

no one is going to stop white genocide for you.
no one is going to stop globalism.
its up to you. or you can swallow the blackpill..

Modern Christcucks are absolute hypocrites. They crave to become rich and thus ruin their chances for heaven.

How can anyone in 2017 still believe in God.
Every single argument has been thoroughly demolished online, a hundred times over.

>who made the world then?
>who made god?
>Well god always existed
>If you're willing to accept that as an answer, why not cut the middle man and just say the universe always existed?

>because muh book
>ur book that was written in the last 0.00001% of the unvierse's history?
>It's a speshul book because..something.


>I need religion because my life is meaningless without it.

>Fine, but that doesn't make it true.

>>Its useful!

>>Im sure it is, but the only difference between yourself and someone that believes they are one day going to recieve a letter to go to Hogwarts and uses that to get through school is volume of believers.

>>That's somehow insulting despite being pretty accurate.

>> So surely deep down you know it's not true.. and repeat.

Your kind will soon submit to the one and only true god

Inshallah