Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Just go to leftypol you can't convert people being this bold, plant the undertones first.
Logan Bennett
No
Jose Ross
i honestly am in the mood for genuine Q&A
Jordan Hall
Kys
Jack Turner
Kys
John Wood
>His name was "Spencer Rapone" And he just got BTFO
Adrian Rogers
Questions regarding what from your flag I see you are a fascist, I don't like talking to you guys you repeat the same shit over and over again.
Carter Richardson
aww come on I've yet to talk with a full-blown Red about these things
please answer
Colton Williams
I'm not a full blown red infact i quite despise Stalinism which people and right wingers usually regard as "Communism". I'm a left leaning centrist, if you wish to debate an actual communist by definition head to leftypol.
Nolan Bell
To me it seems like communism always just ends up punishing the hard working and rewarding the lazy.
Makes you think.
Angel Reed
As someone with a high paying job that supports you. How can I survive the switch over? Will wearing shabby clothes help?
Asher Stewart
Questions regarding what? From your flag I see you are a leaf, I don't like talking to you guys you repeat the same shit over and over again.
Charles Anderson
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of rebolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism aggording to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
Owen Lopez
what about OP?
and no, i don't mean Stalinism or whatever specific variant of marxism you don't like, i mean the actual Communist end goal.
Jacob Rogers
>Sup Forums gommunism general How do you feel about the fact that Communism is Jewish?
Aiden Adams
lol Except a nationality is completely different from a person plugged into an ideology. :^) The end goal of communism is complete and utterly equality. How do you feel the fact that Stalin killed an untold amount of Jews during his reign oh and Capitalism is quite Jewish as well :)
Nathan Howard
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Kevin Mitchell
As someone well into the top one percent of borderless world we live in. I wholly support the revolution. I earn almost 30,000.000 American dollars. Please eat me as I am far too wealthy.
Dylan Jackson
For a nationality to exist you must ideologically accept they exist. Checkmate leaf.
>oh and Capitalism is quite Jewish as well :) Yes, it is. Your point being?
Kayden Gutierrez
>The end goal of communism is complete and utterly equality. and so i ask, why should unequal people have equity?
Angel Murphy
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Bentley Price
>The end goal of communism is complete and utterly equality. Pic related.
Elijah Russell
Does the concept of "to each according to their need" apply to organs as well? In a communist society, would I be required to be an organ donor?
Colton Allen
This is the Brit, he usually puts a joke here to make fun of the Spaniard cunt.
Caleb Diaz
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William Cox
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Adam Gutierrez
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Ethan James
If you know anything about Communism, you'll know that Juche has very little in common with Communism.
Owen Nguyen
margsism lebonism :DDDDDDD
Jonathan Hughes
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Eli Martin
>kulaks burn crops and kill livestock >lol why do we have no food Tell me, do you believe in the holocaust?
Benjamin Rivera
>If you know anything about Communism, you'll know that Juche has very little in common with Communism.
Justin Bell
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Parker Baker
Juche only removed the Communist end-game part in their constitution in like 2013 i thought
meaning they got to their totally shit state by pursuing their Marxist-Leninist ideal.
Daniel Brooks
>Muh! Its not real communism!
Julian Morris
Harry Wanton is completely irrelevant buddy he didn't construct any works of any scale compared to the big 3 of communism.
Karl Marx, Trotsky and Lenin. Life is precious and we should rise above human "nature". You don't believe in equality for all? That's quite ridiculous. Your links mean nothing buddy.
Jose Brooks
>Harry Wanton is completely irrelevant buddy he didn't construct any works of any scale compared to the big 3 of communism. Karl Marx en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx#Childhood_and_early_education:_1818.E2.80.931836 archive.is/rwTdC >Ancestrally Ashkenazi Jewish, his maternal grandfather was a Dutch rabbi, while his paternal line had supplied Trier's rabbis since 1723, a role taken by his grandfather Meier Halevi Marx.
No, seriously, Juche is not communism. I know le not real gommunism meme but it isn't. A heavily nationalist nation where the government owns the means of production, hell the fact a government exists at all means it is not Communism
Jacob Taylor
>Your links mean nothing buddy. Is that why you're dismissing them out of hand instead of refuting them?
Explain why it is communism please without resorting to using a gay little meme.
Jack Stewart
>people are unequal in every way >try to meme equality >starve because you can't accept inequality when will this meme die already
Julian Long
I literally explained why it is not communism though. Now explain why it is.
Kayden Clark
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Jacob Clark
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Matthew Gomez
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Jaxson Williams
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Ryder Edwards
Communism is to achieved without a state, Juche is actually closer to fascism ironically. That's a very broad generalization of a whole group.
Owen Cruz
bad goy >:(((
Andrew Kelly
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Isaac Adams
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Wyatt Jenkins
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William Rogers
>Life is precious and we should rise above human "nature". You don't believe in equality for all? That's quite ridiculous. I think that we should do what works best, because effectiveness mixed with philanthropy is what will be most healthy. Hierarchy is natural to humans, simple human sociology, so putting a square peg in a round hole will only cause suffering.
Andrew Brooks
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Oliver Ramirez
>Russian Fed in place of Russian SSR gay
James Myers
>Explain why it is communism Because North Korea is a Communist country. Duh.
Jonathan Ramirez
Ok now I know you're joking.
Christopher Parker
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Christopher Diaz
>Communism is to achieved without a state, Juche is actually closer to fascism ironically.
Isaac Morris
fuck off lefty pol
Kayden Edwards
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Camden Sanders
Juche advocates for a Socialist state, a term they developed under their marxist-Leninist government. They removed the communist bit though quite recently in an amendment to their constitution. North Korea arrived at it's shit state in a fully Marxist-Leninist government, unapologeticly communist.
Benjamin Peterson
>That's a very broad generalization of a whole group. You can't name a pro-White Jew in a position of power, authority or control. Can you?
Robert Watson
>3 You little bitch nigga, commusim has never been tried. So of course we have had set backs by bourgise pigs derailing our movement.
Stick to your spongebab memes you little bitch nigga cos we out here in masks and if i see one pepe or snake or nazi sign well we all know fash gets bash.
Tyler Hernandez
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Nolan Bell
>implying
Do you even know the basics of Juche? It's closest ideological relative is Strasserism mixed with a self sustaining economy. Ah yes those billionaires making profit over the toling work of the poor that's how we keep everything great! >das jus the social hierarchy man
Adrian Thompson
>Ok now I know you're joking. victimsofcommunism.org/north-korea-under-communism-1948-2014/
Jace Flores
>Do you even know the basics of Juche? It's closest ideological relative is Strasserism mixed with a self sustaining economy. Why would I trust the word of judeo communists?
Asher Nelson
Marxism-Leninism wants to achieve Socialism and then Communism however the most we've seen it advance is the first stage, state capitalism. Saying a marxist-leninst country is communist is like saying an egg is a chicken or a seed is a fully developed plant.
Mason Cruz
>How is it really any different from any other 'not real communism'?
Xavier James
So ?
Luis Powell
If it keeps going tits-up before it gets to point B, shouldn't that be a cause for concern? A man reaching for communism is a communist, regardless of whether or not he actually achieves communism.
Xavier Murphy
>(((Trotsky))) Because I said that the DPRK is a very nationalistic country where the government owns the means of production. A Communist society is stateless and the workers own the means of production. They don't sound similar do they?
Aaron Flores
KYS kike shill
How do you recognise a foundation myth? It fulfils three functions.
1)It explains the origin and structure of the world (and society). 2)It defines ultimate good and evil (and from those definitions are derived the values that are used to justify the holding of power). 3)It determines what is held sacred in that society.
For modern Westerners the story of WWII has become their foundation myth. It fulfils all three 1)We live in the ‘Post-War World’. The lines on the map, the institutions, the sense of what era we live in, all arise from the starting point of WWII.
2)Ultimate evil is Nazis. Ultimate good is opposing Nazis. The values derived from these definitions are anti-racism, equality, diversity, anti-nationalism and so on.
3)The only thing that is held sacred, that cannot be denied or mocked in the contemporary West, is the Holocaust.
The problem is that all three functions are backwards or negative.
Instead of the origin event being one of fertility and new life, it was a conflagration of death and destruction.
Instead of ultimate good taking the central position in the story that slot is occupied by ultimate evil. Everyone knows that Adolf Hitler, the personification of evil, holds the centre point of the WWII story.
Instead of that which is held sacred being something mysterious and sublime it (the Holocaust) is an obscenity.
Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Westerners is poisoned.
I never said the likes of Kim Jong Un aren't Communists but the system they use to govern their country isn't.
Brayden Harris
>So ? So if there's nothing wrong with the Jews, then you should have no problem admitting that Communism is Jewish. Right?
You Communists claim you're fine with the Jews but when someone posts the facts that prove Communism is Jewish, you freak the fuck out.
Why?
Is it that you know that the Jews are bad and everything they do is wrong?
Or is it you know that you can't peddle Communism here if the goyim know its link to the Jews?
Hunter Barnes
there are Communists, in that they seek Communism, and then there is actually living in a Communist society. If you mine for gold, but don't find it, are you no longer a gold miner?
Lucas Smith
shill ok buddeh
Bentley Lee
dob geg gomrade :DDDDD
Adam Diaz
See
Justin Gomez
How do cappy cucks defend the emergence and system of the nuclear family under capitalism?
Jack Johnson
before the adoption of Juche (which is not totally divorced from Marxism as a concept either), which is a recent development in the DPRK's history, they were full blown Marxist-Leninist.
Isaac Harris
Faggots
Christopher Wright
Liberal Democracy a shit
Cameron Clark
yeah, marx, lenin and trotsky were jewish. So ?
Noah Johnson
Marxism-Leninism is not Communism, it's a system with multiple stages and one of them is Communism. There is also the State Capitalist stage and the Socialist stage but no countries really got past the state capitalist stage.
Jack Ortiz
I'm no hipster waddle off cigan.
David Ward
>yeah, marx, lenin and trotsky were jewish. So ? So therefore, Communism is Jewish.
Jews are inherently anti-White.
Therefore Communism is inherently anti-White.
Asher Thompson
Marxism-Leninism aims to achieve communism at it's end though, it's a Communist ideology as it plans to achieve communism in it's end stage. This is why you can't divorce communism ideal from the socialist reality in Marxist-Leninism, it's all in their plans and hopes.
