Why do leftists always conveniently forget about the time Stalin killed 10 million Ukrainians by starvation when they...

Why do leftists always conveniently forget about the time Stalin killed 10 million Ukrainians by starvation when they defend Marxism?

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Holodomor is just western propaganda. it didnt happen

If it didn't happen why did the Soviet Union cover it up?

>literal holocaust denying board regular asking this

>because it wasnt real communism.
sage this pointless bread

>Sup Forums is one person
I don't deny the holocaust though.

>holocaust was fake and 6 million number is exaggerated by jews
>holodomor was real and 10 million number is totally legit. also jews fault.

LOLOOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

This is a lie, Stalin didn't kill us

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>6 million Jews in Europe is the same as 10 million Ukrainians in Ukraine
By the way a famine isn't the same as a death camp, which by the way the Soviets also had scores of.

And what about British Empire crimes, when your country killed millions of people across the globe for simply resisting your cruel rule? Indians will attest, Chinese, many African nations. South African boers hope still remember the betrayal. Is that the fault of your monarchy, of imperialism that was built on the sea trade which is essentially a capialist endeavour?

80% of this 10 milion were russians so fuck off
and stalin was georgian

I've had Lefties use the excuse that 'Official USSR documents' only showed that X million died. Then are triggered over anyone discussing the Holocaust.

Last I checked there were no "British Empire deniers" Vladimir.

>Haha it's okay because it was just Russians who died
>Haha it's okay because Stalin wasn't a Russian, that makes it not real Communism

Fuck your what aboutism kike.

How the fuck could they not have enough food stashed in hidden places?

They don't live in the fucking desert.

this is a nice thread

>holocaust didn't happen, don't even (((Google))) for evidence, all of it is controlled by kikes
>LOLOLOL MUH HOLODOMOR GOOGLE IT YOU WILL TOTALLY NOT GET ANTI-COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA FROM A CAPITALIST BILLION-DOLLAR EMPIRE'S SEARCH ENGINE

You guys make AnCaps look smart. Also, unlike the Holocaust, every single death under the Holodomor was justified. If you only killed the rich j*ws, then I wouldn't be so mad

>Last I checked there were no "British Empire deniers" Vladimir.

Atleast we did the right thing and massacred our tsars for their crimes, while you still have a monarchy. How many diamonds in the crown of your queen that are stolen from the natives of the other lands? How many gold in your royal palaces are paid in blood of innocent?
My point was that you don't usually connect those millions of dead and the monarchy and the capitalism that drove this idiotic expansion.

Why do you assume leftists as a blanket term?
I am economically socialist as in thebintetest ofbthe many in conscous with rights of the individual and a racial nationalist.

S E E T H I N G

NAZBOL GANG

You massacred the people who perpetrated those crimes and then proceeded to replace them with doppelgangers you Russki fuck. Russia is the most corrupt shit hole on the planet.
>How many diamonds
None.
>How many gold in your Royal palace
None because Buckingham Palace isn't the Kremlin.

In Britain we don't have a national Holiday where we gather around a flaming oil drum, eat stale bread and spin yarns about how we showed those Indian savages what was up.

No, I hate bolsheviks, democratic socialism.

21st century larpers like to be apologists for notorious dictators

If France wouldn't support you in your war of independence you could probably lose and still bow to the stupid queen.
Capitalists are searching for gold in Central and South America and killing millions? That ok, nothing to do with capitalism!
Sick and hungry people die because of the bad crop? DAMN COMMUNISM IS TO BLAME!

Democratic socialism or social democracy? There's a difference

Oh yeah, remember the Irish potato famine. Totally nothing to do with capitalism, doesn't matter that the English basically exported all the good crops

>None
Lying bitch. Next thing you say is that your queen is using public transportation and walks through East London without her escort.

>"Not true Leftism."

>EETS THE CYAPITALISTS COMRADE
>*kills all the farmers and starves to death*

Are you really communist, or you're just ''Russians can do no wrong'' type?

Nobody walks through East London without an escort. That is how you get stabbed.

no and no
i just smell rustil old anti russian propaganda from an ukrop living in emirats of england

Pic related will always be you.

>LOOK OVER THERE, THOSE CAPITALISTS ARE KILLING PEOPLE AGAIN
>Kills 200 million people by firing squad for owning food

None of that, not a communist, not an advocate, but sick of people putting all the blame on 1 side, while ignoring the same in their history. Or maybe they just ignorant, subscribed to PragerU or some other shithole that brainwashes them in their echochamber.

>10 million Ukrainians by starvation when they defend Marxism?


REMEMBER THE 600000 gorrilon hohols KILLED BY DA EBIL GOMMIES GOYIM!!!

>this KGB INFORMANT (INFORMANT) is still used by Dunning-Kruger crew as some kind of proof
Seriously, read some books, nigger.
I recommend The Sword and The Shield by Andrew and Mitrokhin.

Okay then, you're right, but that's just how they are, keep in mind they've been brainwashed about bad evil Russians for a good century or more.
Don't be too upset about it.

>QUICK! Make another movie about gulags or nazi crimes, so everyone would forget about our crimes!

Democratic socialism, I dont believe in parties or party revolutionaries.

Sick burn m8. You got him.

Any revolutionary leaders must be shot to secure the peoples freedom.

Capitalism kills but it definitely kills less. What do you think we have been telling commie morons for over 100 years ffs.

>An entire nation of people is capable of concealing a fake genocide for 60+ years
IF IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, WHY DID THE SOVIETS HIDE THE FACT THERE WAS A FAMINE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

IF IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, WHY DID THE SOVIETS PREVENT FOREIGN AID TO UKRAINE DURING THE FAMINE.

Most leftists don't defend Stalin or Marxism. They say it just doesn't work in practice.

Not even leftists care about ukrainians...

>this KGB INFORMANT (INFORMANT) is still used by Dunning-Kruger crew as some kind of proof
>as some kind of proof
He experienced it. You haven't. Get fucked montenigger.

Socialism is not revolutionary but natural to workers interest, workers do not need masters.

Death to lenin death to soviet union death to trotsky death to castro death to chavez

>Why do leftists always conveniently forget about the time Stalin killed 10 million Ukrainians by starvation when they defend Marxism?
When do they forget about it? What I was taught in school was that Stalin was one of the most brutal dictators of all time.

>Be me
>study economics in Uni
>one of the subjects is history of economics
>while studying the soviet union economical system we also talk about Holodomor genocide since it is a key event during Stalin industrialization process
>professor calls Soviet Russia a hellhole and communism a failure
>no autistic scratching, people just listening in silence with interest

feels good living in a Catholic country.
>

The Soviets didn't have camps made for the explicit purpose of extermination. They had labor camps that had high mortality rates because of location or wartime status as well as generally primitive conditions. They didn't have gas chambers like Auschwitz.

>Muh 100 gorillion Ukrainians
sage

First it's 7 million, then 13 million, then 20 million, then it's 100 gorillion, and now 200 GORILLION. Who's acting like a kike again?
I wanted to post that
I can accept that

>The Soviets didn't have camps made for the explicit purpose of extermination
>They just had camps that were made for the explicit purpose of extermination, but worded differently

ADL bullying Ukraine into downplaying the Holodomor as serious as the Holocaust

youtube.com/watch?v=Fg1rL_kbO_w&t=

>it's ok to deny genocides when we do it
I don't know why you commies think you're better than the Nazis.

probably didn't hid, but just fucked up and lost documents. it was during and after the civil war so many documents were classified. And hid from who? Foreign aid? From these invaders?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War

Convenient.

He didn't. He was an INFORMANT. He wasn't even a KGB officer. Unlike Mitrokhin who was the chief archivist of their foreign intelligence department, and who crossed over with almost entire fucking archive, which revealed shitload of stuff.
But some grand plan to subvert West wasn't revealed, because it didn't exist.

Because what happenned back then was just another USSR-wide famine, which were a common thing in pre-industrialized Russia. (((Holodomor))) is a khohol attempt to cash on Soviet guilt, except no one but retarded Westerners is buying this crap.

This. Some people love to claim that communism is popular and that Stalin is deified, but everybody here learns that he was a dictator who killed millions, and Marxism only works in theory.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp

Same shit happened to German POWs that the americans were holding in camps.

The americans say 1 to 2 million were in the camps. 1 to 2 million? Wut? Off by as much as a million people? As well as that they forbade the red cross from ever carrying out inspections and they starved the prisoners. The red cross found evidence of that in inspections when the camps were being closed.

There is a theory that a great many people died but offically its 3 to 10 thousand. Again a wildly innacurate number is their offical number of deaths. It raises a lot of questions.

>Oy vey, these goyim morons don't believe our capitalist lies. Quick, let's pay some putz to shill for the system that allows us to destabilise sandniggger countries for oil

>I wanted to post that

why do people still believe in slavic lies like the lolodomor and in kosher lies like the holohoax?

it's funny isn't it the nutziz are doing mister goebbels work for him.

Are you unironically trying to claim the Soviet Union wasn't rounding up the bourgeoisie into camps and working them deliberately to death?

Holodomor wasn't industrial extermination of people. It wasn't directed against Ukrainians either.
Soviet government was criminal, sure, but it wasn't a genocide. A genocide is a crime which includes specific elements. Holodomor wasn't a genocide. There was no intent to destroy a certain group.
They simply needed food to feed cities, collectivization failed, so they forced peasants to give up their food.

You can't change being a Jew, you can change being a capitalist pig

they just say they deserved it

prove me that the Holodomor never happened comrade

...and Russians learn same things.
In real life, fucking communists are totally irrelevant. It's just that there's shitload of basement dwellers here who are for some reason stuck in 80's.
Communism is utterly discredited.

I'm saying that the camps weren't explicitly and visibly designed for the sole purpose of working people to death, though many deaths occurred in some camps. The death rate in camps declined after WWII, as antibiotics were introduced and wartime shortages abated.

Jews control the masses through the propaganda they spout. There is never any thing even remotely critical of Jewish influence in the mass media. They'll gladly attribute the corruption of big banks etc. to the white man, even though they are controlled by Jews

Whenever someones pokes the truth, they just have to cry out

>muh anti semite, muh nazism, muh shoah, literally hitler

and you'll be silenced by the public immediatly

Since media is controlled by Jews, if you want to reach people with criticism of Jews you have to go through what many considers an unreliable news source because all (((((legitmate))))) news sources are operated by Jews.

THE BOLSHEVIK JEWS WHO PLOTTED THE UKRAINIAN HOLODOMOR HOLOCAUST (7 -8 millions killed)

1) Genrikh Yagoda (Jew): Founder of the NKVD (Soviet Secret Police). Assisted in the first Five-Year Plan of starving Ukrainian peasants.

2) Lazar Kaganovich (Jew): Stalin’s political figurehead of the Central Committee. In 1928, Kaganovich led the implementation in the Ukraine of Stalin’s first Five-Year Plan.

~ The aim of Stalin’s first Five-Year Plan in the Ukraine was to destroy family farms through starvation making the peasants “landless” and thereby introducing “collectivization” by which the Ukrainian peasants were forced to become employees of the state. This forced-famine reached its crises point in 1932.

3) Nikolai Yezhov (Jew): Appointed by Yagoda as Head of the NKVD. Assisted in the first Five-Year Plan of starving Ukrainian peasants. (Yezhov took on a “Russian” name like most Bolshevik Jews. His wife was an active Jew).

THE SECRET HOLOCAUST

youtube.com/watch?v=WRVDFf3CNF8
youtube.com/watch?v=FCan8CDuDMQ

it was a famine caused partially by kulak retardation and bitterness.
read about agriculture in russia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_the_Russian_Empire#Common_field_system
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-field_system
They used the common field system until the 1920s. this depleted the soil and lead to famines. Crop rotation wasn't used until the 1920s

Yagoda himself was purged. Yezhov wasn't Jewish.

>Yagoda

>muh yagoda
>muh trotsky
yagoda was exicuted during the great purge and trotsky was killed with an icepick a direct assasination order by stalin himself.
here to elaborate more.
Like many Soviet NKVD officers who conducted political repression, Yagoda himself became ultimately a victim of the Purge. He was demoted from the directorship of the NKVD in favor of Nikolai Yezhov in 1936 and arrested in 1937. Charged with the crimes of wrecking, espionage, Trotskyism and conspiracy, Yagoda was a defendant at the Trial of the Twenty-One, the last of the major Soviet show trials of the 1930s. Following his confession at the trial, Yagoda was found guilty and shot.

Looking at the 20th century, we fairly easily get into the 100,000,000+ zone for deaths caused by implementation of Marxist doctrines. There is no price these people are unwilling to pay, and no limit on the number of innocents they will happily see slaughtered on the altar of their false god. They cannot come to terms with the fact that the their belief system is incompatible with the core programming of human species and nature itself, and undoing such programming is not yet even remotely possible. Taking this into consideration, do you see how ignoring 10,000,000 deaths is basically nothing to them?

>m,uh buhgillionS!!!!!

>muh 100,000,000

>THE UKRAINIAN HOLODOMOR HOLOCAUST (7 -8 millions killed)

it was 6 million now its 8 and op said 10 o 20 fucking million who's being the kike agian?

>Blaming the kulaks
>Unironically using the word kulak
Turn off your flag comrade.

>Nikolai Yezhov
Jewish wife, then

You, I didn't say 20 million.

Yea there is nothing you can tell me that makes me want to put more power into the hands of people with guns (the central government). I don't care how much a faggot business owner tries to price gouge me.

You again go outside you faggot

change your copy pasta then to include it you dishonest faggot.

also include that yagoda was purged him self.

This, give monopoly of power to (((us))) goyim, no worker benefits from being ruled by someone with a gun.

some kosher slavs whine that the number of "killed" is 20 million LIES like the holoco$st and the dresden ''''''firebombing"""".

Selling human meat is one thing, but god damn couldn't you grind it into mince first? At least try to make it appealing.

the same can be said about Middle East today, how many died from 1950s because your country played the game of installing convinient regimes and pitting them against each other? Or there are no Amernica think tanks to count the number of dead because it doesn't fit your agenda?

Nice damage control Sergei.

Hey fu-
>flag
Oh, right.

Because (((leftists))) are responsible for it.

If I'm eating diseased human flesh I probably don't have the strength or energy to make lasagne.

why do you faggots insist on perpetuating kosher slav and kraut lies like the lolodomor the holohoax and the dresden ""firebombing"" huh why?

LIES.

>Atleast we did the right thing and massacred our tsars for their crimes
>we
You mean Jews and then proceeded to wipe out Russian born intelligentsia and replacing it with it's own.

Why do you insist on grouping the holocaust and the Holodomor together? They are completely unrelated events. Is it because the only way you can legitimize your claims is by falsely binding the two events together and hoping Sup Forums will go "HOLOHOAX FAKE, LOLOMER FAKE TOO, BAD JEWS"

I just don't believe in the masturbation machines and holocoasters.