How is this hard to understand?

How can Americans not support this? Is a gun more important than being alive? It seems other-worldy to me.

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I would support universal healthcare only in an all white nation

I don't understand this meme. It's written to the reading comprehension level of a conservative, but is ideologically liberal.

Universal healthcare is objectively not a right.

Yeah because you left it.

>Freedom to purchase guns is the same as freedom yo recieve (EXPENSIVE) services for free
Medicine/healthcare has NEVER been cheap, and is NOT a human right. This is why you don't spend all your money like a nog.

it is otherworldy! my fellow americans have brains made of mush and are all psycho maniacs!

being an american is absolutely fucking brutal!

>this meme image and thread again
one more time so it sinks in for you.

until you have, at the very least, a plan of sustainability for 350 million people, shut the fuck up about universal health care.

at current market value universal healthcare in the united states is completely impossible.

Why do leftists always meme with false equivalence?

Yes it is. It is the duty of the state to protect its citizens and to allow them the pursuit of happiness, this duty is an obligation translates into a right for the beneficiaries u colossal breitcuck faggit.

>medicine/healthcare is expensive
No its not
>spending your money like a nog
But that's literally what Americans do? They purchase a gun to defend themselves from other guns???

I believe in freedom to Mina as I see fit.

>duty of the state to protect its citizens
incorrect!
you think in reverse.
it is the duty of the citizens to protect the state.

and in america, the people are the state.

"stand on your own two feet." should be the new american creed.

What does my waifu have to do with gun control and healthcare?

Why do liberals make shitty memes from good anime?

This. Universal healthcare might be a viable option for the US I not for the welfare/dependent class. Also there is our generally poor health as a nation (which, again, mostly a problem of the dependent class).

>b-but it works in my mostly white country of 4 million ppl??

>freedom to guns
Speak English

>orgasms
>dissolves your dick

Pass. Momo all the way.

>good anime

Also no. It's just the mediocre battle shounen of the moment.

One is a negative right, the other is a positive right.
Know the difference, it could save your life!

It's literally one of their strategies to piss us off. I think even they realize they are utter shit at memes but we're at least smart enough to realize it's so bad that it angers us, so they keep at it

Why do you have 25% unemployment? Plus it's a bastardized version of 'freedom' you're putting out there. Not even leftist in America are stupid enough to use that word. usually they say 'right'. Butas topic has been addressed ad nosem like 10 times this week, and generally held to be shit idea to americans, fuck off.

we have to do something about healthcare prices

So... you're comparing me buying a gun with my money as to giving my money to a stranger for their health?

Ok... Ill choose buying a gun so I can protect myself from you stealing my money for your health. Understand?

The Bill of rights affords us negative rights, things that shall not be taken. Universal health care is a thing to be given, not something that you inherently have that the state could conceivably take.

3/10 bait

You have a right to defend yourself against those who would infringe on your way of life, harm you, or steal from you.

You do not have the right to be entitled for hard working Americans to be taxed to death to pay for your healthcare while you dont work or contribute to society in a meaningful way.

Also, Im not demanding that other americans pay for my expensive gun through their hard earned tax dollars.

Sorry Eurofag, but you have no argument

>t. anime only fag

She can manipulate the ph levels of her discharges. She basically gushes out lubricant to slide rapidly around the floor.

This. And OP is probably against the right to bear arms anyway.

Yes, the ability to defend the people against tyranny is more important than the lives of individuals.

Republicans believe everyone should own a gun achieved through taxing and redistributing wealth?

I have the right to bear arms, not the right to tax dollars from others to buy said arms.

Where's the difference? Perhaps its that the gun owners aren't bitching for other people's money to pay for their guns? If you try to tell us you think this meme is logically sound and a good comparison, you're either retarded or lying.

Careful. You'll interfere with the Proggy while he abuses another anime character, in all probability Tsuyu, in the manufacture of yet another shitty meme.

Free market drives innovation, even the limited freedom of the US healthcare system allows it to innovate far more than any other nation's healthcare system. So much so that statistically speaking, the ultimate cure for cancer will be an American innovation.

Pic related is medical research by country
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op is likely the faggot who took froggirl and mixed it with kermit posting, bringing us more fail with this.

>freedom to force a worker to do his job even if it goes against the beliefs and pillars of its own profession

We don't have the resources for Universal Health Care. All that will do is cause the hospitals to be overwhelmed with the high demand for premium health care, and cause massive backlogs in the system. Universal Health Care advocates don't understand this and want Health Care to be similar to fast food; I want my treatment now, or else I'm calling your supervisor!

stop posting this

OP you literally just copy-pasted one of the baits of Boku no Hero Academia thread poster.

Make your own bait.

I'm a Neurologist, Why do you believe that you have a right to my labor?

>Neo-Communists are complete trash

She's a victim of the left's "meme" campaign against Sup Forums

So when are they providing every citizen a gun?

>Shit copy/pasta

Also gun ownership is enshrined in the constitution, government mandated healthcare is not.

>No its not
Are you telling me that the sheer cost of training doctors and healthcare workers is not expensive, without even touching how expensive the materials are?
Historically, medicine and healthcare has always been expensive.

Because one involves a lack of government interference and the other involves heavy government interference via taxation and restriction on access to private health care.

If the gun rights meant every person was forced to enroll and participate in a national militia then the comparision might make sense

mods will never do anything

Because to make universal healthcare affordable they'd need to stop having the medical companies drive prices up like the stick up a leftie's asshole, which they coud realistically do by opening up public hospitals like most other countries in the world do, but lobbyists would never allow it.

>freedom to
fuck off.

It is expensive, free health care advocates don't understand that doctors and health care workers cost money. They want retail levels of service and expedience.

>freedom to spend your hard-earned money to buy a gun should you choose to do so
vs.
>"freedom" to not have to pay for something that costs a lot of fucking money and that other people have to work to provide because you think you deserve it just for being born

Why are liberals this retarded? Why can't we just start hanging leftists for the greater good of humanity?

It does not matter what is important.
Rights might allow you to do something, but might not allow you to force others to do something. That is the original concept.

nothing wrong with the second amendment. its health insurance thats the problem. deregulate, make the shitty American insurance companies compete

you pay for guns of your own why should i pay for a guys med bills who got drunk and crashed his car

>freedom to die of preventable disease/untreated injury
sure is advanced nation in here

When will this fucking meme end, I have never been at a hospital that didn't treat someone because they didn't the money or insurance. They have a placard that says treatment is unconditional regardless of anything.
Had to get an appendix removed with a medical bill over 50k, it was waived and forgiven.

t. idiot that thinks the world is all roses and sunshine

If you read a history book you would know the necessity of guns. Highly impactful live-saving healthcare is a modern contrivance. It's also a scarce resource that requires a lot of materials and skilled individuals to effectively administer. Declaring it a universal right is silly. It can be rendered universal if a society organizes it effectively enough, but "human rights" is a shit-tier justification.

I swear to god if you don't stop using best girl for your filthy commie shit straw man macros I'm going to fucking rape your dog.

>The freedom to have a gun or not
>The "freedom" to get taxed so others can leech of your hard work
This is not the same.
Remember to SAGE all slide threads.

>guns are free
also what is up with these imgflip anime maymays

You're not entitled to your next breath you piece of shit, now fuck off.

Nobody's stopping you from paying for your insurance in the USA so you can get the healthcare you need. I mean, Obamanigger made it where you NEED to have coverage now or be fined, so what's anyone's excuse?

Not to mention, you can't be refused treatment in the USA. Which is why every ER in every major city is packed with indigent illegals and niggers who think their kid having a tummyache is an "Emergency" that needs immediate attention on the taxpayer's dime.

Why are Eurotards so uneducated about the USA? Don't your people claim to be intelligent? If so, you might want to do a little homework before sounding retarded again.

freedom to guns
>i buy a gun if i want to
freedom to healthcare
>others are forced to pay for my healthcare

>One quarter of Americans say either they or someone in their family has skipped necessary medical care because of the cost
bankrate.com/banking/savings/money-pulse-0617/

socialist kike policies won't keep us alive

we're just waiting for the fat asses to die off.

also wheres my free gun?

>one quarter of Americans are niggers, Mexicans and retarded white trash

One line can offer a lot of explanation, but what's most comical is that "skipping" can simply mean "I postponed elective surgery for a few months so save up to help cover my deductible and then got the surgery anyway".

Euros and Bongs, 100% retarded 100% of the time.

one is a right guaranteed in our founding documents, the other isnt, and wasn't even necessary until modern factory food and sloth became the norm. nice fail at a meme though...lefties have the worst memes i swear it has to be genetic.

How much is your insurance? How much is your deductable? What does your insurance not cover?

Market based "solutions" to healthcare kill people. (even those poor whites you guys say you're defending)

>that jiggle as they move her.

>thinking niggers in need of surgery are a priority of mine

If we were a homogeneous nation I'd probably have different opinions on the matter, but as it stands, as with public subsidized welfare, it will likely go to a majority of feral melanin-enhanced urban rats rather than human beings. So I'm disinclined to believe it's in the public good to fund such endeavors.

Fuck niggers, fuck spics.

If the care is absolutely necessary you will get it, again regardless of who you are. If you require surgery next week you will get it that next week, a hospital is not going to let someone die because they don't have the money

Absolutely.

except they're paying for their own guns and you're paying for their healthcare

this is the reason it never took hold in america, all of europe and canada were like "Sure I'd pay for a white person's healthcare".

>to allow them the pursuit of happiness

>Proceeds to show why there shouldn't be universal healthcare by eating a tub of mayo

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this. nice ID

Republicans believe in the freedom of citizens to buy and use guns.

Republicans believe in the freedom of citizens to buy and use healthcare.

Republicans do not believe in give every citizen the money to buy: a) gun, b) healthcare

It is a consistent belief.

stop making these threads you fucking faggot

Is it necessary to save every last person? From a material perspective it's conceivable this mentality could cost a state and its people so much bending over backwards to fulfill that people start to suffer in other areas. We inevitably draw a line of practicality with respect to cost.

>Freedom to own an object
vs
>freedom to force other people to work for you

These two are not equivalent

>you don't get free guns
>you don't get free healthcare

How is this hard to understand?

Rights are a social construct. Nobody is entitled to anything unless they can project enough power to enforce it. The left is simply too weak to get rid of gun ownership and implement universal healthcare.

also nice gets

healthcare is not the same as insurance

t. Hillbilly offspring fedora faggot who would rather sink the whole United States into shit than allow some niggers to see a doctor and stop being so niggardly.

I have to buy my fucking weapons, I would love it if the state provided weapons and ammunition for me but that isnt the case.

i can afford to buy both a guns and healthcare, two things poor people still get for free

Switzerland has it figured out. Issue every able bodied person a rifle.

Universal healthcare won't work in the US because of all the spics and niggers that abuse the welfare system. 81% of tax payers are white yet they're only 56% of the population.

One is a right identified in our Constitution the other is not.

Republicans believe you should be free to own guns. I don't hear them arguing that you shouldn't have the right to buy medical services.

What you're arguing for would be the equivalent of demanding that the government give everybody free guns. Nobody is telling you you can't have healthcare. You just have to pay for it. Same with guns.

2POOR2LIVE

>Healthcare freedoms
So like gun freedoms you can get one if you want, but im not obligated to buy you one? We already have that.

Because they're retarded pieces of useless shit.

The Government CANNOT force anyone to buy a commodity!!! Just how retarded are you? You frickin people.

Obligations are the flip side of rights and vice versa.

You have a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You don’t actually have a right to property, which is why the government can seize your property in order to achieve its end of the bargain in securing your actual rights (life, liberty, pursuit of happiness).

These rights are claim you have on some body, but who?

The state. The state is obligated to protect your life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness. It has to figure out how to do that, and it must do it, like keeping a promise. And the state even has to be diligent in finding the resources, means, and ways to do it.

You can’t have life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness if you are sick, don’t have access to healthcare, don’t have access to higher education. Anybody would agree. That’s common sense.

The state’s obligation therefore is a duty that works out as a right you have to healthcare, free education, and other essentials gibs.

It’s almost like you libertacucks are just LARPing as philosophers, hmmmmmmmmmm...

Because facts and logic are not on their side.

its pretty fucking simple, you pay tax, the government pays for your healthcare

Typo you faggots, correction:


These rights are claims you have on somebody, but who?

The state is obligated to protect your life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It has to figure out how to do that, and it must do it, like keeping a promise. And the state even has to be diligent in finding the resources, means, and ways to do it.

Universal healthcare is the devils work

And what of I dont want healthcare, huh? Do i still have to pay tax?

ITS NOT A FREEDOM YOU FUCK

THAT'S LIKE SAYING I HAVE THE FREEDOM TO UNIVERSAL CHEESE BURGERS

WHICH I DON'T HAVE, I HAVE TO FUCKING PAY FOR THEM YOU FAGGOT