What does Sup Forums think about Spencer or the entire WN/ALTRIGHT movement?

What does Sup Forums think about Spencer or the entire WN/ALTRIGHT movement?

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he's a CIA nigger

Controlled opposition CIA NIGGER

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not an argument

ok shill!

He does a lot of retarded shit at the most inconvenient times. Incompetent at best and plant at worst. I don't think he's a plant, but I do think he's a goober and kind of a joke.

Blatantly acting at the behest of something behind the curtains. Just look at the recent Weev response (although who knows, he could be non-legit as well it's possible).
Anyone who doesn't think theres some shady org (Russians, Jews etc. etc. take your pick) with their fingers in every honey pot pushing discord and disunity in the US of A is wilfully blind at this point.

white nationalism is still identity politics. it's no better than what the left is pushing except its only good for whites.

i'd rather be fighting for individualism or maybe just 'nationalism' in general.

here come the (((civic nationalists)))

individualism is what is leading to this point a lot of good that has done

Think he might be controlled opposition. Should have resisted the alt right moniker. They used that to set us up.

>ex wife diehard Duginist and his personal assistant

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Russian shill if there ever was one, but this one is a failed investment.

thanks for the twitter link i just followed. Also your buddy obamaleaf is in another shilling again. LOL

He's a fake and the white identity is manufactured to produce useful idiots unfamiliar with their own genealogy. Probably a Muslim.

ITS ALL DA JOOES


t. stormfaggots, every time.

The alt-right shit was started by him before trump even ran stop believing the shills

>call dick spencer a faggot
>altrightweenies call me a shill

What has dickie done that warrants his status of "leader"?

Spencer is an obvious spook to infiltrate and deface the Alt-right movement.
nigger came out of no where, nobody knew who he was and the (((media))) proclaimed him the leader of the alt-right and ya'll took the bait.
He has made poor decisions after poor decision, "just bring guns to a protest" he's basically TRYING to get people arrested.
He's trying to make the Alt-right look worse than Anti-fa, and is only failing because Anti-fa is so astronomically retarded he can't even intentionally outdo him.

hey obamaleaf

do you support civic nationalism for Israel?

What are you talking about? Identity politics is the opposite of identity politics that forces people to associate as groups and judge as groups rather than on individual merits.

> Identity politics is the opposite of identity politics
what

His alt right and the "alt right" used to label groups like Sup Forums and any young conservatives who aren't neocons/globalists aren't quite the same. He technically started the label and the goals are similar, but people from Sup Forums, jewbook, and the_donald (I know) don't give a fuck what he says and they're the ones who did the real work of spreading this "movement".

They make it sound like Spencer commands this entire movement and is the head ideologue of it when he's just the celebrity face and that everyone agrees 100% with him. He's just a talking head guy who runs one small WN group and a magazine that the media trots out as a spokesman.

Alt right wasn't popular until the election when it was promoted w/o mentioning Spencer. A lot of dropped interest once Spencer claimed lime light.

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Never heard anyone say that but I guess Milo had the same problem they'll label anyone alt-right doesn't mean anything though only to special snowflakes.

The alt-right and Spencer himself were popular but neither was white nationalism not many people outside of Sup Forums know about WN in the first place just assume its ebul nazee shit which is wrong

Also no one actually called themselves "alt right", that's what the media and Milo labeled it. When they're talking about it they throw people like Alex Jones, Sargon, and Farage under the umbrella who are all very different from Spencer and each other.

Pardon.

Individualism is the opposite of identity politics. Up late here with sick kid.

It was not promoted as white nationalism during election until Spencer showed up.

I'm saying that individualism has caused what we have now. It doesn't work in a multicultural society.

What are you talking about? Alt-right? Yeah it was nationalism no idea wtf you are talking about /new/ even talked about it.

glow in the dark CIA niggers

Milo was the one that popularized it in such a way as not mentioning Spencer or white nationalism

Yeah it's basically become a vague term for anyone against multiculturalism, feminism, SJW nonsense rather than a serious white ethnostate political movement. I'm a bit biased because I'm not a huge Spencer fan but I don't recall him getting mentioned much here (occasionally) until CNN did their little "hitler salute" expose on him. He wasn't that significant for Trump support at least.

Multiculturalism doesn't work period. You have to have a shared culture that promotes individualism.

It was Nationalism, not white supremacy retard, then Spencer showed up, CNN called him the leader and he immediately did a roman salute. Nothing fishy about that.

Unforunately identity politics are an arms race.

Leftists are not going to stop indoctrinating young non-whites with identity politics in order to get their vote.

If whites do not start engaging in identity politics, we are done. If democrats get enough non-whites in America, we will never win any election ever again.

The truth is that the old America is dead. The old idea where we were free from royal family lineage or any of that shit is gone, now it's all about race. We can't have a meritoracy when we have a bunch of low-IQ non-whites who get brainwashed by identity politics in our country.

It was promoted as nationalism not white nationalism through people like Milo.

Do you even know what you are talking about? White nationalism is not white supremacy it was never about supremacy

milo was never alt-right though EVER

>then Spencer showed up, CNN called him the leader and he immediately did a roman salute. Nothing fishy about that.

Spencer has been around for a long time. There is a big white-nationalist circle of writers and public figures that Sup Forums does not even know about. Richard Spencer was one of them.

Silly.

Counter Currents are good, better than Spencer. They write a lot of informative articles.

Decent guy. There's no proof of him being CIA or whatever. He can be dumb at times, but most of the hate he gets is unnecessary. Net benefit to the movement.

Also, this is probably a leftypol divide and conquer thread because they know how divisive Spencer is.

And how do you propose to introduce the

It started as general nationalism, not white nationalism.

he's pretty BASED if you ask me

Well you are wrong that "whites" need to join. It's a race to the bottom in that case. I don't even think American blacks should associate themselves even with blacks from Africa, considering their ancestors sold their ancestors into slavery. Picking allies based on skin makes zero sense.

>and he immediately did a roman salute
Ask me how I know you're a shill.

Tell them they can make big money n fat hos n free weed n shieeeeet if they work hard instead of living off the white man.

Already talked about this in the last thread.

>Well you are wrong that "whites" need to join
we need to join or we are going to bred out of existance

He promoted alt right. Never called himself that. A nice play on words.

no he didn't

And how's that working out for you? Oh right, they vote overwhelmingly for big government and support identity politics.

That's what it was and first. The meaning of Alt-Right has become clearer lately.

I got nothing then.

Although a lot of the people that enable their behavior in the first place are liberal whites so maybe we should deal with them too.

You don't know how genes work or how the ginger genes essentially guarantees whites. You can't mix with white and stay dark. They will lighten over Generations of continued mixing. There will be no breeding out of existence.

Fucking B A S E D

I saw the mother fucker promote alright before Twitter nuked his account.

The identity framework is based around the leftist media/politicians telling non-whites that they are all oppressed by default by a white supremacist system, so they need to vote democrat in order to free themselves.

They create a logical framework where all non-whites are oppressed by default, and that's all that matters.

Non-whites are never going to see themselves as individuals, that requires an average IQ above 95 which most non-whites do not have.

Meritocracy is dead. Forget about it. We are in an arms race to the bottom, it's the only way. If we completely change our demographics by force, maybe we can get back to the meritocracy system

I'd suspect Spencer of being a plant, but he's been at the "alt-right" shit for a long time - way before it had any popularity. He started under George Bush.

I can't see why the feds would want to put a guy in the "intellectual" white nationalist spot for years when the white nationalists were really low priority.

Plus, I have trouble believing the government is good enough to setup a basic spy like this. Remember when the deep state tried to throw the election for Trump by financing a candidate to run as a Republican in Utah, and the guy they got was a literal CIA officer with unlimited money from undisclosed donors? These are still government employees we're dealing with. Not the sharpest tools in the shed.

Race is so much more than skin. This is 101 shit dude. C'mon.

>if we remove liberal whites then this group who evolved isolated from us for tens of thousands of years will adopt our culture because we have magic dirt that overwrites their genes
>that's a lot easier than just sending them back
Civic nationalists are a joke.

Must be a language barrier if you don't understand the phrase race to the bottom.

Identity politics is poison and those that engage in it will destroy themselves.

Yes Richard Spencer is not a plant

He is just spoiled and doesn't totally understand how the world functions, so he does really stupid things sometimes.

I still like him though

White Nationalism has no plan for feminism. They just think you have a country of white people and that's it. You have a generation of women who wont reproduce and their minds have been corrupted with leftist ideology and their bodies have been destroyed by processed foods and birth control pills.

He walked right into the Charlottesville optics trap designed to make us look violent

And unless this has changed he's now in for an ARMED rally, read about it on TDS

I never thought he was a plant, but hoo boy, he is making awfully dumb moves. His tweets are smart so I'm hoping he's legit and I'm just being paranoid

I love WN generally, ethnostate is the only way. Whites WILL be too demographically swamped to do much through USG soon. That said, if we get super-high White turnout and the GOP embraces the Sailer Strategy and becomes the Wypipo's Party, we might be able to buy a couple decades

Did anyone else see Spencer shrieking like a little bitch when the riot police were moving into the park? How embarrassing. All that preparation those guys did, organizing and communicating and preparing, and coordinating and permit here and phone call there and talking to the cops and bringing extra shields and helmets and water, milk, 1st aid kits and no one remembered to tell the faggot not to act like a bitch in the presence of the cops.

Fucking faggot.

Here's a hint. You don't talk to the police when they are doing "police action", unless they talk to you first. Simple minded faggot, this is the fucking right wing and we are the goddam EXAMPLE to these stupid niggers on how a human being is supposed to behave while interacting with law enforcement.

Haven't we all watched enough Youtube videos yet, of niggers and women resisting arrest, yelling at the police, getting punched out by the police, and yet here's this so-called "right wing leader" who wants to fall down and piss himself because the Police aren't doing what he thinks they should be doing.

Because somehow that faggot got the idea that the Police exist to do what Richard Spencer the shrieking faggot wants, instead of following the orders that come down through their Chain of Command. That's not a right wing leader, that's a faggot pretending to be a man, but doesn't really know how. And I have to consider the possibility that any man that doesn't also see this clearly is ALSO a faggot.

Simple poll

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White nationalism doesn't have any answers, really. Just theories. Especially when it comes to traditionalism.

White isn't a race. And Englishmen is not a Frenchmen, is not a German, is not a Jew, is not a slav. Hell even Egyptians with Western European DNA have a different cultural identity appropriate to their time. There is no unified or shared white race. Just shared genetic markers that produce phenotypes but not forge alliances.

He isn't going to the armed rally anymore.

Also
youtube.com/watch?v=-w_G8Of3Xgw

You think it made us look violent? watch the video.

>falls for shitty bait made by a Sup Forumsack

Lefties either don't give a fuck or are scared of Sup Forums. All these lefty/pol/ threads and bait are started by trolls.

>Must be a language barrier if you don't understand the phrase race to the bottom.

No I understand, but it is necessary.

Once whites have engaged in racial identity group-think, then we can begin to rebuild our society in a way that actually makes sense.

If we continue to believe in "individualism", we are going to get out-bred by non-whites, they will become the majority, and we will turn into a socialist country and our constitution will be destroyed.

I guarantee it. The average non-white is 88-92 IQ, pro-socialist, anti-white, and completely brainwashed by MSM.

Identity politics is the only way you'll survive.

You really don't know much about white nationalism do you.
Tell me, who's teaching these people to be feminists?
What's indoctrinating the students at universities?
What would happen if we removed that rather overrepresented group?

I don't think he's a fed or anything but he's pretty incompetent. If I were to describe him I'd say he's Milo 2.0

I go back and forth between thinking he fucked up, and thinking he's trying a strategy. Yes, the Nazi salute on Trump's victory day was bad. On the other hand, it catapulted him and his ideas into the media and he got his message out more.

Yes, Charlottesville wound up being negative, but maybe it would have worked out if it weren't for that minor car accident. Or, maybe it's good that we start to push the Overton window to the point where killing leftists is acceptable. Hard to know.

>whites aren't a race man
>we're all like, one blob man
Why are you deconstructing white identity? What (((agenda))) could you be pushing I wonder.
Tell me, have you ever told black lives matter that black doesn't exist? Have you ever told asians that asians don't exist? Have you ever told muslims that arabs don't exist? Have you ever told der juden jews don't exist?
No, of course not that would be silly. Strangely you seem to hold this solely for white people because for some reason we're not allowed to group together and defend ourselves.

Their plan is to make them home-makers again

The main plan is to make men strong and dominant again so they are able to put women back at home (their natural place).

Obviously this requires men working hard and making a lot of money though.

Only the promotion of the individual on merit advances the society he belongs to. Turning citizens into a think tank to progress the whole. Grouping without merit on skin alone is stupid and will fail. Bringing in people from different backgrounds into a shared culture that promotes individualism (freedom of personal conscience and responsible societal living) is the greatest cultural structure and why americanism thrived before the sickness that is political correctness.

He's certainly backed by someone, if not the feds who?

Wrong. Have survived without it and will continue to do so. If you don't learn to punch left and right then you'll be flanked.

well that's a relief
>7 minutes of video
do you think I'm immortal, user?

Deconstructing? It's barely duct taped together. It's a new construction. Mostly by American Democrats after the civil war to wrestle political strength from freed slaves. Once Democrats got blacks back in the slave house with well fare state they dropped the White identity they created because it became unpopular.

>Have survived without it
We survived because of it you retard, if we were all "individuals" the west would've been destroyed centuries ago. There's a reason Rome loved the fasces.

>He is just spoiled and doesn't totally understand how the world functions, so he does really stupid things sometimes.

The tiki-torch march was good.

Spencer organizing with a former Obama/Occupy shill was bad, and doing a rally in fucking charolettesville is just not smart.

I even knew how this was going to turn out. I have been to enough right-wing events where the governor or police conspired against it and shut it down. I have seen how this works.

They need to pick a spot that actually makes sense. I actually started laughing when I saw "CHAROLETTE NORTH CAROLINA" for the AnComm rally. The fact Spencer would even consider that location for a minute makes me think he is extremely naive.

That place is like nig-nog central, just asking for a disaster.

I like that Spencer focuses on aesthetics and "emotionally" appealing to people, but I wish he would put out more logical content like Jared Taylor does.

It's ridiculous LARPing. Still, compare them to neo-nazis, which adopt bits of foreign culture, do stuff like go bald and wear wifebeaters, and go around worshipping a former enemy of the US. He's at least a little more savvy than them.

I looked into the evidence that he coined the idea of the "alt right" and it seems credible. I would argue at one point there was a corcurrent, somewhat similar, movement also called the alt-right which started later. Then people got confused about the two and the latter group just disavowed the label mostly.

I would argue it was the right-wing which accidentally launched Richard Spencer into fame. It wasn't some conspiracy. It was a fluke chance.

Kids larping and nothing more

You survived because the jails in the UK were full and had to send your ancestors somewhere else. Without that program you wouldn't exist. Lumping circumstance of individuals into the blob of white magic is stupid.

Holy shit he's actually doing DR3.
therightstuff.biz/category/fash-the-nation/
You'll thank me later.

By the way, you didn't answer my question.
>Tell me, have you ever told black lives matter that black doesn't exist? Have you ever told asians that asians don't exist? Have you ever told muslims that arabs don't exist? Have you ever told der juden jews don't exist?

>Bringing in people from different backgrounds into a shared culture that promotes individualism (freedom of personal conscience and responsible societal living) is the greatest cultural structure and why americanism thrived before the sickness that is political correctness.

This is never going to happen and it will never happen.

Prior to the 1960's, America was 90% white. We have never been a melting-pot of different races who found common ground on our ideas.

Different races will never ideologically assimilate with each other on mass scales. It has never happened, it is not happening now, and it probably will not happen in the future.

Whites are willing to work with other people, but non-whites are not. It has been scientifically proven that only countries with an average IQ of 95 can function under a free-market democracy. Most of these non-whites have an average IQ below 95.

I’ve never cared for Spencer. Not because I disagree with him, but because he’s a totally egomaniacal douche nugget. He takes credit for every fucking thing that happens, unless something goes bad, in which case he blames everybody but himself. I don’t think he’s a fed, he’s just too focused on his appearance and getting all the attention.

>white genocide is real
>israel and the liberal diaspora are responsible
promoting these truths to save the Aryan race does not require a group, tons of $$$, or any eceleb leaders. These groups and leaders which are followed do not expose white genocide nor the responsible Jewish State. Therefore, these group exist to distract you from the simple truth that
>white genocide is real
>israel and the liberal diaspora are responsible

think for yourselves. only then can you find a way to spread the message effectively. and dont forget to save Alt-Kike threads.

Liberalism took away hearth and home and gave women promiscuity and PowerPoints in exchange. We can offer them a better culture than twerking and abortions.

At least that's what I think we should argue. My fear is that women really do think this is better, they only want us for resources, and they would rather be lesbo cultist communists than married to betas. In which case the Kali Yuga continues and we all sink deeper into Hell.

But I think they have to be babycrazy enough to recognize that they're only gonna have like one living the aggrocunt lifestyle. A real family requires a husband.

Ambivalenceposting continues: I have strong doubts that they're rational enough for that.

American blacks were literally sold into slavery by other blacks. Their descendants then voted for the first black president who was a descendant of blacks that were never slaves but in fact sold them.

Grouping by color for blacks is stupid too. They are being lied to. 90% of American blacks have at least one white ancestor.

I don't see how "le jail island!!" is an argument for how we survived in a group. In fact it probably proved it even more so, we banded together and fucked up the natives and dominated this land because we worked together.

I would strongly associate the latter movement with Milo Yiannopoulos specifically. Also somewhat with... here, 8ch, dailystormer, brietbart, Voat, Gab, every large social media site, and a few other things I'm probably missing. This group pretty much scattered off when Richard Spencer got media attention for screaming Heil Trump and Trump denounced the alt-right.

I really believe Richard Spencer only became popular on the fluke chance he actually coined the word.