Has anyone noticed how all the intellectuals, scientists, and thinkers of the century are mostly leftist to centre...

Has anyone noticed how all the intellectuals, scientists, and thinkers of the century are mostly leftist to centre? If our theories are correct, shouldn't more intellectuals be right wing?
Are we wrong or is everyone else wrong?
Why are intellectual hotbeds teeming with leftism? Aren't intellectuals the smart guys?
Are we the brainlets or is everyone else?

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Not an argument

People can be geniuses in one aspect of life but be retarded in other aspects.

>liberals

>say there are 10000000000000 genders

>intellectuals

stop.

Let me tell you a secret: the intelligence distribution among intellectuals is no different from non-intellectuals.

What about Bobby Fischer? Also the US is still using Nazi technology.

these intellectuals are leftists because of emotional arguments, not intellectual ones. you can be smart but also dumb as shit at the same time.

Cultural Marxism has infected schools and colleges. Look at the acceptance rate for kikes. People are afraid to express right wing views because they'll be fired or shunned.

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I mean, even other boards that are focused on more intellectual and scientific things, like sci, lit and his always make fun of us while advocating ultra - communism
Is there some sort of disconnect? Why do modern intellectuals advocate for ideologies that put them in death camps?
Serious question

Smart people are good at convincing themselves to believe dumb shit.

They've been educated in indoctrination camps. No shit they lean leftist. The truth has been hidden from them while communist propaganda has been shoved down their throat. The same thing happenew in the Weimar republic.

Intelligence does not determine someones political orientation.

A person's value systems (which are arbitrary and up to personal preference) determine where one sits on the political compass.

>Has anyone noticed how all the intellectuals, scientists, and thinkers of the century are mostly leftist to centre?

Physicist checking in. No I haven't, because all the "left wing scientists" have "of arts" degrees. Biologists wonders why they get no say in the gender debate thinking all the left wingers are clinicly retarded. Physicists just think that nearly all others are retarded and Mathematicians are usually autists.

Nobody in the actual world of science is seriously considering listening to the liberal "scientists". The liberal academia is just better at presenting their idiological gibberish in a more "scientific" way, while misinterpreting statistics or flat out ignoring facts/data. Most physicists in my group would be "classical liberals" (so not the US kind of modern liberal) but only because they live in their ivory tower thinking everyone has the same mental capacities as them, i.e. analyzing life and making decisions based on data, statistics and logic. Around 30-40% lean towards conservatism, and around 10% full blown right wing.

Thats because you think schools make you smarter.
Schools brainwash you.The more (((educated))) you are, the bigger the chance you are a brainwashed liberal.

Nobody is "wrong", because morality is subjective to the period and culture it exists in. That's why slavery was widely accepted in America, but no longer is. We didn't "become better people (or worse)", our values just changed as a society. Any other answer requires an objective moral reference, which, unless you're a biblical literalist (stone the gays, no shrimp, etc etc), you do not have. No matter what you tell yourself.

Intellectuals tend to be left of center because they tend to grow up in urban environments, which are generally left of center. That's it.

Which "intellectuals" specifically are you referring too?

you can't become a cool famous scientist unless you're a marxist how have you not figured this out you fucking retard

Why are economist overwhelmingly in favour of regulated capitalism?

But why though? Wouldn't it be more liberating and efficient if the scientific community was right wing?
Biologists wouldn't be restricted, geneticists wouldn't lose their careers etc
Why is the scientific community such a leftist boiling pot right now?

B-because of math and economic modelling?

Because science needs to be kept down.
Do you think its a coincidence,that the very basics of science are false, and you get crucified for opening your mouth to say this is bullshit.

Economist don't take in account of race. If economists were redpilled about niggers, boy would there be a lot of changing in math.

Science doesnt care about progress. it cares about government gibs. If we cared about merit and progress the entire scientific community would be holocausted. a full war economy is the only way to dislodge the talkers from the do'ers

All those University and college graduates who take philosophy and such classes and end up going full Red, and then people like Bill nye and Neil degrasse Tyson who are big in the scientific community, but are complete technocrats

Most people on here are very ignorant and they embrace it. Some are bright, but they've all been indoctrinated in the alt-right cult so there's no reasoning with them or chance for civil discourse. You'll just be called a "kike shill", or they'll point to a single thing (trump won the election, more than 2 genders) which they think invalidates all experts, intellectuals etc.

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Intellectuals dont create their own narrative, they just go along with the esablished one.

>intellectuals, scientists, and thinkers
Many big thinkers aren't in the public eye or even recognized as such.
You dont need a doctorate to be thinker.

mainstream "intellectuals" are the mid-tier, still considered stupid to some.

No you damn fool. Have you seen the state of modern science and academia? None of it has to do with independence of thought or production of theories and value systems. All of it is spent crafting an individual who is totally enslaved to the centralized system which is slowly eroding us as human beings and replacing us with machines (and turning those of us with the knowledge to see through this into the enemy).

Scientists are the worst of them all. Science was an independent venture that a man embarked on. This is why you read of so many SOLITARY figures in science whom worked with the past ideas and molded them into what was defined as a scientific theory.

Now you have science as a means to produce for large international corporations or to hide within academia. We have destroyed the human individual and slowly but surely replaced it with a herd. And this will only amplify in the coming years.

Look around you, colleges and universities are full of 'over educated' individuals who lean left...

It's almost like there is a hive mind in professions and people who think differently are taken care of

chill out poupaplatipuss

we already know this shithole website is a cancerous leftist disinformation and schilling site.

thankfully people like me know how to ignore your trash mind fuckery

Here: anytime the word 'smart' is used, replace it with 'good'.

"I'm smart" becomes "I'm good" ... At what exactly?

There are people that are socially smart, but lack mathematical smarts and vice versa.

Intelligence in general is just learning from your mistakes. You can even practice for IQ tests to change your score dramatically.

Basically, it's a meme.

>intellectuals, scientists, and thinkers
When ever someone is getting payed to do the thinking they are corrupt and cant be trusted.
Also, the needs of an individual are ignored when developing theories, so for many of us any of their theories are completely irrelevant and against our own needs.

What major advances in science has there been since the 1960s, other than spy phones?

We landed on the moon in 69.

Hoover dam was built in 1931.

We're running out of antibiotics. Nixon declared war on cancer, how is that working out? We're supposedly cooking ourselves to death with greenhouse gases, what are the major changes in green energy? Last nuclear power plants were started in the 1970s.

We're stagnating because of commies, bro.

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Because this is what happens when you go against the flow. This guy is a physics professor at the uni I went to. From the conversations I had with him, he seemed pretty conservative

Those who are isolated, apathetic or have heavy handed control over them tend to favour left.
Academia, as established social group, in quite many cases are no longer the group that has direct connection to political forces, just indoctrination of young adults.

ολοι οι αριστεροι φιλοσοφοι επαναλαμβανουν μαλαkισμενες ιδεολογιες σαν τον νιχιλισμο kαι ηδονισμο.

>We landed on the moon in 69.


that never happened.

Wew
>great group of "intellectuals" you got there

Government funding of science totally ruined it. You can only get funding if you run with the herd.

Intelligent people can still be misled on moral/ideological issues.

They've been inaugurated by the (((system))) to take those roles

Take bill bye and Neil degrasse. Both are confirmable morons, despite having degrees, but what they really do well is play a scientist on tv

This goes back to newton and Hume and adam smith: truly smart people understand their role as humans and don't try to subjugate others with intellectual superiority

>Has anyone noticed how all the intellectuals, scientists, and thinkers of the century are mostly leftist to centre? If our theories are correct, shouldn't more intellectuals be right wing?
It's a combination of echo chambers, peer pressure, and censorship.
For example if you believe blacks commit more crimes than white people per capita ( a fact ) you'll become a social pariah for espousing a easily available and public fact.

fucking subscription services.

I can see the article when opening it in a new tab from google. Anyway, point is, dude has on several occasions called out marine biologists and climate scientists for dodgy representations of science and has been burned for it

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Is it not obvious that academia is liberal? It always has been and always will be, it is simply the liberal nature. Naturally all of the intellectual production of education would be leftist garbage like marxism, nihilism, atheism etc...

True intellectuals, scientists, and thinkers were often mocked in their time. Rejected. Even arrested.
You are somehow trying to compare them to mainstream modern (((intellectuals))). Ha.
No, nothing has changed. It's the same as it always was.

The argument is pay your debts then we can talk you filthy Greek leech

>We're stagnating because of commies, bro.


pretty much this.


communism is satanic and leads to stagnation and dark age.

Maybe I'll pay if you answer my question, William

For some it's simple exploitation. Leftist ideologues are more manipulable, more likely to shower money on research projects (no matter how questionable those projects may be), and less likely to be critical of scientists and philosophers in general, even when their ideas are shit. Leftism lowers the overall quality and rigor of the scientific community by subsidizing shitty scientists who willingly trade integrity for gibs. In a world where master and doctorate holders are competing for tenure and research grants, it's very tempting to buy into the status quo to get ahead. Especially where in some places you get ostracized for not agreeing with popular thought

You olive nigger.

Did you forget that it's mostly the leftist educating this intellectuals, scientists, and thinkers?

When I was a kid cultural marxism didn't exist. Union workers used to beat up fags and immigrants and women were seen as a threat to union jobs. Whatever happened to those good old fashioned socialist values?

Basically. Greatest gen, silent gen and Boomer cucks were also so scared of being called mean names they let communists take over everything. The cause of all our problems is pathological altruism.

As a member of Generation X I can confirm that we are to blame. We fell for the equality for genders, sexes, race hook liine and sinker. Sorry about that.

Stop listening to "experts".

That's because all the right wing people in the academy were purged after ww2, particularly by the end of the 50s and 60s. The interesting thinkers of the inter-war period, before the academy started catering to the masses, watering down its standards, and empowering administrators, were generally right wing, as was almost every intellectual of the 19th century (at least by today's standards). Heidegger, Jaspers, Dawson, Butterfield, Gasset, Toynbee, etc. Just to name a few.

Leftist intellectualism is represented by someone like John Dewey, who, when compared to someone like Babbitt, comes across as a naive and superficial buffoon.

The ruling class will not give you a podium to speak from unless you sing their song.

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Scientists are the ruling class they determine the song.

>Bill Nye and Neil Tyson
>big in the scientific community

Either you're having a joke or are suffering brain damage. Either way kys.

Every single professor in my university isn't right wing, even the geneticists. They don't care about skin colour or anything. It makes me think what Sup Forums wants will probably never take off. Oh well.

>Not an argument
people who reply with this to anything they disagree with should be fucking slaughtered

No you wont.

That all cancels out to 0.

Wrong. Leftism as you know it is a new phenomenon.

Did he died?

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no, he is ok

Educated != intelligent or always right. Marx was educated and his ideas caused more death in the modern world than anyone else's.

Also most STEM people are apolitical and just go with the status quo. However some are breaking because politics is forcing itself into everyday life harder than ever these days. You wouldn't find many of these people public about it though cause they risk job loss for something as simple as says they like Trump.

Oh good, seeing an image of a dead person could mess with your head

>Sup Forumstards not studying to become themselves right-wing intellectuals

It's because professors are leeches that rely on gibs from the government and the education systems in general have been set up to brainwash people with leftist propaganda.

Because the left successfully implemented the "smart"="left wing" AKA "right wing"="dumb redneck" meme, so most intellectuals have to pose as left wing or get fucked in their careers.

No, the leftists are so into science because of scientism. A new religion built on (((theories))) without evidence.

People who align towards the right only believe things with actual observation and evidence.

basically this. In my biochem faculty we still do the hail hitler salute.

All the comments regarding education not be the same as a true intellectual make sense, but why then are nearly all tech platforms leftist? Wikipedia, Twitter, FB, AirBnB, GoDaddy, etc, etc are ALL leftist as hell. I get that Silicon Valley is left wing but wiki especially shouldn't have so many communist editors.

I don't think you understand what a complete bullshit clusterfuck the science establishment is. If you expose unpopular views or challenge conventional thought your ass is gonna be stuck cleaning test tubes under some liberal. Scientists will do anything to surpress eachother to get grant money. They'll lie and steal and take credit for others work or completely fudge p scores and other statistics to to make their work look publishable. The entire establishment is like this.

Engineers on the other hand are often more conservative thinkers and they get shit done.

Checking

spoken like a kike shill

A lot of scientist are not political people. Some of the smartest people I know are politically illiterate. There are also a lot of scientist that hide their conservative religious views to not attract unwanted attention. They don't want people judging the work they do based on their personal beliefs and not the content of their work.

For example, David Gelernter. A computer scientist who survived an attack by the unabomber and is one of the leading scientist in his field. He disagrees with many of his atheist colleges on the concept of A.I., the soul and transference of conscience. He's a very devout Jew. There's also the fact that a lot of the most famous scientific discoveries were made by devout people like Issac Newton and Gregor Mendel.

So encouraging people to be skeptical will get you fired? Lovely.

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That interview will completely answer your questions. If you have an hour-twenty to spare....

>all
>mostly
and you call yourself an intellectual? LOL

"Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing."

Anybody can code a program. A literal monkey can be trained to do it. Why do you think we call them code monkeys? It's low skilled work for low skilled people. As a consequence it is very easily subject to Conquest's second law, just like media corporations are. Ten years ago google, Youtube and so forth were no where near as explicitly political as they are today. This is because apolitical influences have been filtered out and replaced with left wingers due to ideological nepotism.

No, I don't suck cocks for a living, boy
My point is, a lot of highly educated people tend to swing left, so either we are uneducated fools or there is something wrong with the term 'educated'...

Every single intellectual in BC period believed in the truth of Zeus.

Everyone else was just dumb. Zeus is true! Hercules is real! They all live on Mt Olympus. It's all true.

>Has anyone noticed how all the intellectuals, scientists, and thinkers of the century are mostly leftist to centre?
Most of these people could not give a fuck about what happens in the world. They care about their research not politics.
They will go along with the status quo, since they have no interest in challenging them and their real interest are threatened when doing so.

There is still plenty of real science being done, but there's a fetish for publishing things, regardless of merit or importance; and any area that is even tangentially related to politics has been utterly compromised.

Been around top-rate scientists most of my life, and the generation that is retired over the past two decades have really taken most of the quality with them.

>guy thinks science and technology are the same thing
>as if technological development weren't inversely proportional to solid and rigorous thinking in science

kys.

yes, that's it. forget about going to school and getting educated and just be a neet like a good goy.

I want to believe you but it just seems pointless. We do not need scientists at this time, we need fighters, we need a population mobilized ready to take back our nations and build a real fraternity and not this corrupt EU Scam and NATO shit.

You'll be exluded from the scientific community if your views go against the leftist principles.
>"I turned against the left wing because they don't like genetics, because genetics implies that sometimes in life we fail because we have bad genes. They want all failure in life to be due to the evil system." - James Watson, one of the discoverers of the DNA who needed to sell his Nobel prize in 2014.

I got this from Wikipedia, wich is know for censoring arguments against leftist "liberals", you could find a ton of cases like this if you digged.

Really at this point if you are going to college, you are preparing yourself to succeed in a society that may or may not exist in a number of years. For multiple semi-independent reasons

Naw dude. We need science. Badly. Right wing science. If we win this culture war then what? Who is going to refertilize all of our sterilized people, or produce, or fix our poisoned water, or pull estrogen and chemicals out of our food?

We need both

Triumph of the Will. Science is just an aspect but what is it doing for us now? We need fighters to take back the streets not academics. Academics can come later once the foundations are laid. You don't build a house by starting with the roof (the top), you start from the bottom, from the roots of the whole structure.

That is if you want to build something that will stand the test of time...