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Can we agree that some of these issues are true? It seems that the way they attack white people as a whole makes us be against everything it stands for. Do you think a middle ground is plausible?

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No.
What's one legitimate thing that they say?

That black people are treated like shit? But they place the blame on every white man which just makes people be against their movement.

No. BLM is a paid op by soros to further divide the country, there is no middle ground t have as they aren't even a real entity but just a giant puppet. BLM wants to further tarnish the reputations of blacks to start a race war.

Liberation Theology fur die nogz!

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>Black people are treated like shit
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Don't know, they didnt exist until cops started murdering blacks. Just saying if they took a different approach more people might support them. Going straight for power instead of gaining support on every side and slowly changing things

Given the history, a lack of any racial bias seems impossible.
All I'd ask is that they acknowledge their own racial bias is not harmless or irrelevant and that the appalling violence it causes is not justified, excusable or the fault of their victims.

They have made it abundantly clear that this is too much to ask.

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Yeah I definitely agree with this. Core aspects of BLM are something to get behind if the right people are spreading it

BLM started because of the Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown cases. Both of them were violent niggers that deserved to be put down. The entire "movement" is based on bullshit.

You can't negotiate with them. Their starting point is "you can't shoot black people no matter what we do." Even if the police conceded that, niggers would just protest for reduced sentences or some shit. They will always want more gibs in exchange for nothing.

>hello fellow white people
454 acid attacks this year. how about laying off the prosthelytizing for BLM and get some milk

they just another wing under the communists umbrella They just riling up all the black people. They help no one.

You do realize that police kill blacks at a much lower rate than whites in spite of blacks attacking police at a much higher rate per capita?

Im not supporting them. The start is reasonable but they took they wrong path and took a hate route. It could have been a good thing if done correctly but now they just hate white people (men) and we try argue against the existence of racism because of BLM. There has to be reasonable people on both sides, thats why I asked.

No.
In the UK blacks are treated, as a privileged minority. There are wealthy, skilled, educated blacks, in every position in the UK. There are also criminals, lazy, lying, cheating people who are black. Such people expect to do as they please, they can Fuck off.

Sounds like a normal scenario for humans, some prosper, some fail. Hows that privilege?

Look at the list of demands from BLM. It's a completely impossible clusterfuck of terrible ideas and unconstitutional ideas.

The biggest error is that they start with the axiom that the core problem is racisim. Except that they can't really find it. Take the Freddie Grey case. They're trying to claim systemic racism against black people in policing, when you have a black mayor in baltimore with a black police chief, with a black president and a black US attorney general,

Take away the assumption of racisim and you might as not bother with calling it BLM at all. Just call it police accountability instead.

>Don't know, they didnt exist until cops started murdering blacks.
Police have been shooting black criminals for

No.

The funny thing about the situation is that the recent uptick in shootings is a direct result of shit that black activists have asked for, which was less taser use and baton use. Many officers don't even deploy with batons anymore. Also many more female officers, and weakened physical fitness standards.

The result: Police now shoot where they would have used taser, spray or batons.

The reasonable part is "police shoot a bunch of black people, what can we do about that"? Which is only a tiny part of BLM. It's really not just the tactics that are fucked up.

Privilege, means private law, or a law written to your personal benefit, or benefit as a group. Minority laws, as they stand are a privilege.

>There has to be reasonable people on both sides,

No there don't. That's an assumption you'r emaking because it makes you feel superior, but it's not true. It's possible for everyone on one side to be wrong and hateful.

To the extent that we have a problem with police brutality from militarized cops (and we do), it's more of a problem for innocent whites than for innocent blacks. So if we do something about it, it'll help whites more than blacks, and it will not do what BLM actually wants: get cops to just leave criminal blacks alone. So how do expect to placate them and find a compromise, without simply giving up the rule of law?

>Don't know, they didnt exist until cops started murdering blacks.

Bullshit. You're historically clueless or lying. The black grievance industry goes back at least to the 1960s, and there were murders and bombings aplenty in the 1970s. BLM is just a recent face put on it.

Over 2/3 of blacks claimed O.J. was innocent. They believed that L.A. cops and attorneys just decided to frame and convict a very popular black ex-athlete and actor because....racism. Not in a small town in Georgia, but in L.A. Blacks routinely believe that whites invented crack and AIDS to kill blacks. It's not just ghetto blacks that believe these things either; it's all through middle- and upper-class "black community," including well-off mulattoes like Kaepernick.

It's nothing new, and there's no answer to it, because the thing they're complaining about isn't real. You can't fix a problem that doesn't exist. The "solution" would be to separate, or at least segregate, but we're not there yet.

Most people distance themselves from BLM but at the center is genuine points that anyone with a heart can support, if people could put them at the forefront maybe BLM is salvageable. IK its unlikely but I find it hard to hate BLM as a whole when some people are likely involved for simply the core aspects of why it started, things all people should support. But with how they are run, those get buried and cant progress.

Sounds similar to Irish in N.I. Treat people like shit and they will blame you for everything.

Before you go any further, lay it out. What are the most genuine points you think BLM has?

>Can we agree that some of these issues are true?

What issues?

>Can we agree that some of these issues are true?
No. They're just a bunch of uppity good-for-nothing niggers.

>The start is reasonable
Egalitarianism is not reasonable. It's just a meme you've been taught since birth. Unequal people should not be treated equally.

>BLM is a paid op by soros

And the Russians.

>The result: Police now shoot where they would have used taser, spray or batons.

If this means more dead niggers, then I am ok with this.

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>middle ground

#squatting

There used to be a middle ground where people discussed things pretty sensibly. It got nuked by identity politics though.

>cops started murdering blacks.

But police shootings have been in a huge decline for a decade. Of blacks, of whites, of everybody.

More unarmed black men will be struck by lightning this year than killed by the police. Is lightning a huge crisis for black men?

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Eventually they're going to become /ourguys/ because they will be the only ones left to stand up against the oncoming police state that will make life unlivable for 90% of people. Have faith that they will break free from Soros' control by then. You can't cage a beast forever.

BLM's written demands include:
>legalized prostitution
>decriminalization of all narcotics
>removal of all surveillance equipment
>removal of body cams on cops
>disbanding all current police forces
>taking private lands and redistributing them to POC

BLM is a bunch of gang members and their sympathizers. Niggers are criminals to their core and will never be able to assimilate into a society build on law and order. They would rather go back to piracy, thievery, and cannibalism

The start BLM. He shouldnt be more likely to take a bullet over skin, regardless of fake stats we know its true. Point is, it wont be fixed by blaming an entire race nor by denying racism.

Strawman

If someone comes up to you and says "give me $100 right now", do you offer to compromise and give him $50, or do you tell him to fuck off? BLM has no legitimate points, and compromising just avoid conflict just signals to your opponent that you are weak, and that they can get more concessions from you in the future.

>until cops started murdering blacks
Nigger, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
Cops protect themselves and us from crooks in the line of duty using lethal force.
If you are against cops you are a crook at heart.
BLM is another communist infiltration into the West. Jim Jones showed that niggers have a predisposition to join communism. Niggers love that free gibs by stealing from whites shit, as seen in Africa.

You believe cops treat blacks the same as whites? Dont think so, what if BLM entire focus was on stopping police brutality against blacks and not blaming white people for everything

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Your literally an extremist just like them. "They say this so i'll say the complete opposite because fuck them"

BLM is a proven Russian Psy Ops. Why are you worrying about them?

Just the message, it gets ignored and argued as false because of the racists running it