If there are any Austists out there who would know of any peer reviewed articles or studies that can help make the case that race is real and would like to lend a hand it by sharing it, well it would be appreciated. I'm already working on it now.
If race isn't real then there's no such thing as racism.
I don't care about your bait Reddit and Memey url.
Ayden Morris
You would have to prove a negative Cut the root off at the stem and attack the postmodern ideological source of his argument,
Jaxon Edwards
Don't bother. People that peddle this crap are too far gone, its a waste of time.
Colton Powell
Look into organ/blood transplants. There's a reason they don't work between different races.
Justin Jackson
>arguing with people on reddit. >using reddit spacing YOU HAVE TO GO BACK
Kayden Williams
Tell a democrat that there's no such thing as race. then they have nothing to run on. I say: "I don't believe in races. That's because I'm not a racist like you who believes in races."
A simple argument is that it is now possible to send your DNA to 23andme, Ancestry, or some other DNA-sequencing firm, and receive information on your genetic ancestry.
Nathaniel Parker
That's still typically due to cultural/social influences. Criminality isn't inherently genetic.
Gavin Bailey
Sickle cell/AIDS for spades.
Benjamin Hernandez
i guess racism isnt real then.
call him a nigger.
David Johnson
Tell him that science deniers belong in the Trump administration.
Ryder Thompson
>Criminality isn't inherently genetic.
Aaron Taylor
only blacks can get sickle cell anemia
blacks and asians have issues digesting milk, whites do not
tell him polar bears are the same as russian brown bears so why should we care about saving them?
why is saving one more than the other important? there is plenty of brown ones? the polar bear must stop being racist and white polar bear supremacist
Camden Davis
There's only one race on planet Earth that I know of. Human.
Biology trumps your precious 'evidence'.
Ethan Howard
>Criminality isn't inherently genetic of course it isn't that's why the richest black neighbourhood in the U.S has more crime then the poorest white neighbourhood in the U.S
Dominic Ortiz
Well the so called "white" "black" "asian" race is a social construct.
But humans arent all the same race. Race is a lot more than just skin color.
Aaron King
lower iq average and higher pre dispostion to violence certainly makes you more likely to be a criminal user,govt crime stats dont lie
Benjamin Foster
>peer reviewed study proving race is real Sorry bro, I wrote my thesis to prove water is wet.
Charles Rivera
>There's only one race on planet Earth that I know of. Human. >There's only one race on a planet Earth that I know of. Birds >There's only one race on a planet Earth that I know of. Gorillas >There's only one race on a planet Earth that I know of. Dolphins >There's only one race on a planet Earth that I know of. Fish >There's only one race on a planet Earth that I know of. Arachnids >There's only one race on a planet Earth that I know of. Insects >There's only one race on a planet Earth that I know of. bacteria >There's only one race on a planet Earth that I know of. plants >There's only one race on a planet Earth that I know of. Trees
Josiah Miller
No?
The burden of proof lies with the other guy. If his claim is that there's no other difference than skin color, then he is obviously screwed.
Camden Ross
You quit talking to him. You say sorry you are as sub human as them and I do not debate subhumans.
>Criminality isn't inherently genetic. Genes have a great deal of influence. Don't even try to deny it.
Carter Jackson
Tell them to look up the drug Bidil. It's only approved for black people. If race doesn't exist why doesn't it work for other races?
Ethan Cooper
Tell him to get a bone marrow transplant from a black man if he's so confident that race is just a social construct with no basis in biology.
Juan Thompson
AFAICT when someone says that race isn't real and that it's just a social construct, it means that the person is liberal and has a difficulty with the notion of abstractions. Perfect abstractions are often impossible. We all know what a chair is, right? How do you define a chair? Is a beanbag chair a chair? Gee, chairness doesn't exist and it's just a social construct. The same debate comes up in gender and even, among the nuttier types, biological sex (because in
Robert Harris
tell him to support eugenics and it would stop being real. we need to start purging all people with shitty genetics, getting a select handful with the most healthy and genetically fit bodies with superior intellectual capability, and then breed them together to create a new generation of strong, hyper-intellectual humanoids that would also start creating more super babies out of their own genepool, and these stronger generations of super humanoids would develop technology to transfer our consciousness into a singular, ethereal entity either through computers or something we haven't discovered yet and bend reality or do some crazy shit that our current minds can't even comprehend
Nicholas Gutierrez
Scientists can determine a persons race by their bones. Also, some races are stronger than others, others are faster. Tens of thousands of years of evolution dividing the races.
Parker Evans
You fucking retard. r/rickandmorty is pretty much the politically r/t_d
Mason Powell
Probably your best source
Also: you accepted losing conditions, you can't "prove" a concept like race with a scientific study. It helps to think of *race as a shorthand for ancestry*. Ancestry is something that evidently exists, whether or not you have peer reviewed studies to confirm it. Reframe the debate, get him to accept the concept of race as a "loose shorthand for people of common ancestry".
Look into *taxonomy* and the centuries-long debates over subspecies to show that concepts don't have to be clearly defined to be useful. This will throw them off and they probably won't have the necessary background knowledge to respond coherently.
You can conclude by referencing the importance of *race as a quick rule of thumb* in determining someone's ancestry in medical situations. Use the accuracy of self-reported race as evidence (I don't have the studies handy, sorry).
*Watch this video*, because Contrapoints brings up all the stock arguments your debate opponents will likely use, and Falk gives you a response to each one of them:
You really shouldn't get into debates though if you aren't able to defend your position. "skin color is the only difference" is stupid on its face. Tell that to doctors assessing sickle cell or tay sachs risk.
Jeremiah Sanders
If race is a social construct, then why is race a factor in bone marrow and stem cell transplants?
Kevin Martinez
forgot some things Doctors prescribe different medicines based on race. It is a factor in organ replacement.
Cameron Ramirez
Black do not have neanderthal DNA. Whites and Asians do.
Michael Brown
this
Bentley Torres
www.amazon.com/Origin-Species-150th-Anniversary/dp/0451529065 Here you go
Eli Bell
Send him this and tell him to stfu. Also get real mean about how gender isn't real if race isn't real.
Nicholas Lopez
>That's still typically due to cultural/social influences. Then why is the same pattern observed across every country and culture?
Jonathan Allen
If race isn't real, why are black people more susceptible to sickle cell anemia than any other group? Why are Ashkenazi Jews more susceptible to Tay-Sachs?
Dylan Ortiz
Race really isn't a scientific concept though.
The fact that it can be mixed disproves it. What race is a mixed race person?
If I'm 70% black, and 30% white. Am I black or white?
What if I'm 30% black and 70% white.
What effects what race I am? The 1 drop rule? That's not scientific at all, because that would mean 1 drop of non-black blood = Not black.
Most people aren't pure anything thus, most people aren't any race because of all these 1-drop rules bieng triggered excluding them from races. If we're just judging on skin color, or even skull shape those are phenotyipcal decisions. A person can have a black skull shape but white skin. Or visa versa, so are they white or black?
This is why it's more of a social construct we as a society deem niggers as niggers based on what we use to judge niggers. We can use science to identify skulls etc as people having certain features. But other members of the same 'race' wouldn't have those same features, we're just playing a probablistic game.
The victim was PROBABLY an asian male in his 20s. He could be finnish kid in his teens for all we know.
Jacob Thomas
>australian arguing semantics
i expected better from you Steve. thats romania level shit
Tyler Scott
How many whites have sickle cell anemia?
Xavier Hill
Tigers can breed with Lions. I guess species isn't real.
Julian Turner
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Jaxon Martinez
When my pol browsing ex would get stuck spouting unacceptable things in public, like the autist he is and he got stuck because someone asked him something that was never answered on TRS, daily Shoah and etc he would grasp his head and look stressed and sometimes he would be like arghhhhh, euggghhh, *sighs*.
>In a debate with a guy who says race isnt real, I need some help
Walk away, don't waste your time or energy
Jeremiah Foster
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Parker Roberts
>race isn't real... you can't win against that guy SJW is a Religion, not logic
Jonathan Young
First you need to find out what he would consider proof to the contrary.
Second you need to get a commitment from him that if you find such proof then he will change his mind.
Ryan Faulk has made reams of videos about this topic, with citations.
Ryan Gonzalez
the skin, hip ratio, arm length, bone size, ankle placement, even the nose, lower jaw and hair are completely different, how one would look at them and say "yawp dey eqwal, dey da sam" is confounding one of the main reason black people can't swim as well is their bone density "Several authors have examined data from the Health Care Financing Administration and noted that fracture risk, particularly risk of hip fracture, is higher in whites than blacks in both sexes; the most recent published data reported an age-adjusted annual incidence rate for hip fracture of 10.1 and 4.1 per 1000 in white and black women, respectively, and 4.3 and 3.1 per 1000 in white and black men, respectively. Other analyses estimated the actuarial risk of hip fracture of persons age 65 by age 90 to be 16.3 and 5.3 percent in white and black women, respectively, and 5.5 and 2.6 percent in white and black men, respectively. This lower incidence of fractures among blacks has generally been explained by greater bone strength among blacks Mortality rates were higher in men than in women in both racial groups: 33.7 and 17.2 per 1000 in white men and women, respectively, and 33.5 and 22.9 per 1000 in black men and women, respectively. While mortality rates did not differ by race among men, they were higher in black than white women. These relative differences in mortality rates persisted even after stratifying by age at time of hip fracture and by number of comorbid medical conditions. Racial differences in bone mineral density at the proximal femur and lumbar spine in men were examined using data from the Baltimore Men's Osteoporosis Study (16). This study was a longitudinal observational cohort study; men with either bilateral total hip replacements or who self-reported weight over 300 pounds were excluded. Bone mineral density was significantly greater at the femoral neck, lumbar spine and total body among black men even after adjusting for possible confounding variables"
Evan Ortiz
Google brain size world map
Joseph Myers
Not really an academically supported scholarly opinion, but I find the metaphor of colors works well in this situation. Maybe it can help you in your argument.
Most people will not deny that orange, pink or any other mix of primary colors exists. Just because there is a blurred line between red, orange, and yellow does not mean that any of them are not real, or cannot be identified and named.
Different peoples and cultures may identify or categorize colors differently. Take Russian for example. There is a distinction between different shades of what the Anglosphere refers to as "blue": гoлyбóй" (light blue), and cи́ний (more navy blue). In this way, it can be said that a person's PERCEPTION of colors may be culturally or socially influenced, but that in no way disproves the existence of color, and in no way means that frequencies of light with vastly different wavelengths should be perceived and referred to as the same in all contexts.
People paint things with broad strokes. That is how the world works.
Liam Hernandez
>le next level troll
>le filthy faggot
Grayson Collins
>reddit.com >/r/rickandmorty This has to be bait
Jaxson King
Dude it takes time to find two identically structured but different colored individuals, but I can assure you that it can be done.
Samuel Diaz
Here you go OP
>Race Is a Social Construct
>At last, we’ve reached the final argument! Some people say that race cannot be a valid biological concept because it is socially constructed. My response to this? Of course it is socially constructed. Like I’ve been saying this whole time, scientific categories are tools which we invent in order to predict and explain things. The fact that we invented them tells us nothing about how well they do either of these two things.
>Now, some people will say that we invented racial categories for really bad reasons (oppression, racism, etc.). I don’t think this matches the actual historical records of where racial categories came from, but even if it did, that still wouldn’t be relevant. If the Nazi’s, or the commies, created some useful scientific information for evil reasons, would it therefore be invalid? No, obviously not. Similarly, the intentions behind the creation of racial categories is irrelevant to their ability to explain and predict human differences.
social construct? all you need to do is be in a room with one for 15 minutes till you smell his wafting negro scent...
Carter Miller
this, just ask him this
Wyatt Lopez
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Corvus_species Were we not human, the different races would be classified as entirely separate species, but for political reasons such a classification is ignored.
Joseph Nelson
Also cite the likelihood of medical conditions by race, worldwide distribution of Lactose intolerance, skull shape, IQ statistics, brain size, genetic variation between races and compared to other mammals, etc...
It's about (((their))) globalist agenda. They want to run a prison planet of border-less, race-less, culture-less, nation-less, identity-less subdued sheep. They make up less than 1% of the world's population, yet look at all they control from the world's finances to the media that brainwashes us.
In short, they use the entertainment and news media to encourage globalism and discourage nationalism and traditional western values. They distort and lie about the present and past in that effort.
This is from a scientific paper about how the races developed physiological differences to cope with their surroundings. With all these differences it would be crazy to think that no psychological differences developed either. In fact, the largest difference between the races is in their nervous systems.
Grayson Roberts
i used to go along with the idea that race isnt real until i realized its something only told to white people.
Adrian Diaz
>there is no difference between golden retrievers and pitbulls >one race, the dog race
>there is no difference between tigers, lions and house cats >one race, the cat race
>there is no difference between orcas and bottlenose dolphins >one race, the dolphin race
Justin Long
If race isn't real then maybe police are shooting niggers for other reasons like disobedience
Thomas Hughes
Just ask him to name a species that is identical after being separated thousands of years
Lincoln Harris
Honestly, this. Ryan is probably the leading race realist on the internet today. He's been doing this shit on YouTube since 2007. Him and Spawktalk (rip in peace) were waaaay ahead of the curve back then, and fringey is a confirmed autist with plan. In fact, the entire althype website is a goldmine and honestly believe it to be the ultimate race realist source, and damn near impenetrable in its research and logic.
