It's very long but highly comprehensive. The Frankfurt School were NOT trying to destroy the West, nor were they propagating "political correctness" or identity politics. The entire conspiracy theory and scapegoating of the Franks has no basis and the only people who could honestly claim Adorno was a proto-SJW have never read him. >implying you read books That's why I bring you weenies videos.
>calls things that we can, at this point, witness happening with growing intensity every single day "conspiracies". no thanks, i'll pass. i've done enough to educate myself on frankfurt school and i see enough of what is happening all around me every minute of every day to know what the play is by now.
Cameron Roberts
Show me one quote of one Frankfurt School thinker that says they want to "destroy the west". >inb4 you can't I'll wait.
Kevin Clark
It's a term like "the enlightenment". Neither Rousseau nor Voltaire or w/e propagated or went under that name but we recognize their contributions to a greater movement in philosophy which we coined the enlightenment.
Same for cultural marxism. Sorry, but the Frankfurt School does lay at its foundation.
Caleb Martinez
>the argument has shifted from "there was no Frankfurt school!" To "the Frankfurt school wasn't evil guys!"
Nice.
David Clark
wtf are you talking about? that's literally ALL they talked about. your entire post here and everything your saying is totally 100% bogus
James Young
But you can't show me one quote saying that?
Bentley Peterson
dude even bluepill wikipedia can't deny what frankfurt school was all about >the Frankfurt School comprised intellectuals, academics, and political dissidents who were ill-fitted to the contemporary socio-economic systems (capitalist, fascist, communist) of that time. The Frankfurt theoreticians proposed that social theory was inadequate for explaining the turbulent factionalism and reactionary politics of capitalist societies in the 20th century. Critical of capitalism and Marxism–Leninism as philosophically inflexible systems, the School's critical theory research indicated alternative paths to realising the social development of a nation.[1] their whole point was to create a marxist state in the west. that was the very foundation of their intent. wtf are you even talking about OP?
its not about proving malicious intent i dont give a shit what utopia those frankfurt school fucks envisioned. the point is they caused severe damage to the west in general. if you go out of your house and you find a huge dump do you accuse some dog of malicious intent or do you remove the shit on your lawn?
Luis Myers
oh, now you think wikipedia is a credible source?
Nathan Edwards
i literally did just give you one of the most famous quotes. and i cited you the wikipedia page on the frankfurt school too. even fucking libtard wikipedia cannot deny that the entire fundamental foundational purpose of the frankfurt school was to turn the west into a communist state. that was the ENTIRE purpose of it. it has NO OTHER PURPOSE. like wtf is this whole tirade you are on about? what is your claim even? >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School
Lucas Barnes
Noone ever denied that Frankfurt School existed.
Hunter Nelson
Just like Hitler never publicly exclaimed that he wanted to kill all 6 million jews, of course it's all implicit.
Matthew Thomas
>Noone ever denied that Frankfurt School existed. the commies i´ve talked to 1-2years prior where russian bots then?
Thomas Wood
oh ok so now you're just really far into the gaslighting. you don't accept their own words from their own writings , not do you accept wikipedia. ok. so you're just denying every source you can. nice.
i mean i don't need a "source" even. anything you read about the frankfurt school or any of the works of their members are all the same. they're all about bringing communism in the US.
you aren't interested in the truth, just shilling for your precious communist organization
Hudson Morgan
next OP will be trying to tell us that saul alinksy was a capitalist
Luis Stewart
Of course not. They recently added to the "whataboutism" (recent buzz term amongst leftist) that it is a part of Russian propaganda. So obviously wiki is compromised like when it says that cultural Marxism is a conspiracy theory.
Hudson Campbell
>Hitler never publicly exclaimed that he wanted to kill all 6 million jews Hitler said in his January 30 1939 speech to the Reichstag, as follows:
>"If International Jewry . . . plunges the world into war, the result will not be the Bolshevizing of the world, and thereby the victory of Jewry, but the destruction of the Jewish race in Europe!"
Daddy Hitler said it himself, I believe him.
Mason Wood
You must have dementia. You probably talked about cultural Marxism, which is a lie cooked by Goebbels.
Liam White
you should read the pic related book OP, if you really think what you're saying is true, rather than listening to some stupid youtube video take it straight from the horses mouth
Carter Cook
Old news mistranslating this shit has been retread ad nausem.
Brayden Hill
I realize that's true in your mind, but reality doesn't share your bias.
Jordan Reed
the statement you cite is only a declaration of intent to defend oneself. it's provably true that at this point and time in teh war Hitlers plan was only to deport jews to Madagascar. Any mainstream historian would tell you this. the decision to "genocide jews", according to mainstream history, only came at the wannsee conference in 1942 sources >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wannsee_Conference >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan
Owen Harris
What about Himmler's speech at Posen, was he just "declaring intent to defend himself"?
>...wir hatten die Pflicht unserem Volk gengenüber das zu tun, dieses Volk, das uns umbringen wollte, umzubringen. ...we had the duty to our people to do it, to kill this people who wanted to kill us.
The German word "umbringen" simply means "kill." There are no questions about this translation. Case closed.
Ryan Harris
He's LITERALLY fucking talking about self-defense you subhuman fuck.
Eli Reyes
Self-defense against who, brainlet -- Jews were less than 1% of Germany's population in 1939.
Zachary Green
And so do you with your whiny irrational paranoia about muh somebody trucked a few people while getting triggered into the exact state of mind there terrorists want establish. Grow a spine and manage puberty, virgin.
Blake Phillips
>Self-defense against who You really should read Mein Kampf someday.
Nicholas Garcia
that was after years of the Havaara agreement.
what was the population in the late teens when they were fomenting commie revolutions?
Jayden Wilson
>calling us on not reading books >posts an infograph and a youtube video Then again, communists are not known for their self-awareness.
Asher Robinson
I'd rather not waste my time on the ravings of a lunatic, and stick to the people who debunked those ravings.
Nathan Wilson
>Today I will once more be a prophet: If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe! Speech by Adolf Hitler, January 31, 1939.
>And we say that the war will not end as the Jews imagine it will, namely with the uprooting of the Aryans, but the result of this war will be the complete annihilation of the Jews. Adolph Hitler speaking to a crowd at the Sports Palace in Berlin, 30 January 1942.
>Nature is cruel; therefore we are also entitled to be cruel. When I send the flower of German youth into the steel hail of the next war without feeling the slightest regret over the precious German blood that is being spilled, should I not also have the right to eliminate millions of an inferior race that multiplies like vermin? Adolf Hitler, quoted in "Hitler," by Joachim Fest, Vintage Books Edition, 1974, p. 679-680:
>"If I am ever really in power, the destruction of the Jews will be my first and most important job. As soon as I have power, I shall have gallows after gallows erected, for example, in Munich on the Marienplatz-as many of them as traffic allows. Then the Jews will be hanged one after another, and they will stay hanging until they stink. They will stay hanging as long as hygienically possible. As soon as they are untied, then the next group will follow and that will continue until the last Jew in Munich is exterminated. Exactly the same procedure will be followed in other cities until Germany is cleansed of the last Jew!" quoted in John Toland, Adolf Hitler. London: Book Club Associates, 1977, p.116
Jacob Garcia
>I mean the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish race. It's one of those things it is easy to talk about, "the Jewish race is being exterminated", says one party member, "that's quite clear, it's in our program, elimination of the Jews, and we're doing it, exterminating them". And then they come, 80 million worthy Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. Of course the others are vermin, but this one is an A-1 Jew. Not one of those who talk this way has watched it, not one of them has gone through it. Most of you know what it means when 100 corpses are lying side by side, or 500, or 1,000. To have stuck it out and at the same time - apart from exceptions caused by human weakness - to have remained decent fellows, that is what has made us hard. This is a page of glory in our history which has never been written and is never to be written. >I ask of you that what I say in this circle you really only hear and never speak of. We come to the question: how is it with the women and the children? I have resolved even here on a completely clear solution. That is to say I do not consider myself justified in eradicating the men - so to speak killing or ordering them killed - and allowing the avengers in the shape of the children to grow up for our sons and grandsons. The difficult decision has to be taken, to cause this Volk [people] to disappear from the earth. Speeches by Reichsfuehrer-SS Himmler before senior SS officers in Poznan, October 4 and 6, 1943. youtube.com/watch?v=mRO04q_lQi4
>We have - I would say, as very consistent National Socialists, taken the question of blood as our starting point. We were the first really to solve the problem of blood by action, and in this connection, by problem of blood, we of course do not mean antisemitism. Antisemitism is exactly the same as delousing. Getting rid of lice is not a question of ideology. It is a matter of cleanliness. Speech by Reichsfuehrer-SS Himmler at Kharkow, April 1943.
Caleb Gomez
>World Jewry will suffer a great catastrophe at the same time as Bolshevism. The Fuhrer once more expressed his determination to clean up the Jews in Europe pitilessly. There must be no squeamish sentimentalism about it. The Jews have deserved the catastrophe that has now overtaken them. Their destruction will now go hand in hand with the destruction of our enemies. We must hasten this process with cold ruthlessness. The Goebbels [Reich Propaganda Minister] Diaries, February 14 1942.
>Beginning with Lublin, the Jews in the General Government [Nazi occupied Poland] are now being evacuated eastward. The procedure is a pretty barbaric one and not to be described here more definitely. Not much will remain of the Jews. On the whole it can be said that about 60 percent of them will have to be liquidated whereas only 40 percent can be used for forced labor. The Goebbels [Reich Propaganda Minister] diaries, March 27, 1942.
>In all these weeks, they [i.e., your families] will be thinking of you, saying to themselves: my God, there he sits in Poland where there are so many lice and Jews, perhaps he is hungry and cold, perhaps he is afraid to write. It would not be a bad idea to send our dear ones back home a picture, and tell them: well now, there are not so many lice and Jews any more, and conditions here in the General Government have changed and improved somewhat already. Of course, I could not eliminate all lice and Jews in only one year's time. But in the course of time, and above all, if you help me, this end will be attained. After all, it is not necessary for us to accomplish everything within a year and right away, for what would otherwise be left for those who follow us to do? Speech by Hans Frank [Governor of occupied Poland], to German soldiers in Poland, urging them to write home.
Hudson Price
>One way or another -- I will tell you quite openly -- we must finish off the Jews. The Fuhrer put it into words once: should united Jewry again succeed in setting off a world war, then the blood sacrifice shall not be made only by the peoples driven into war, but then the Jew of Europe will have met his end.... >But what should be done with the Jews? Can you believe that they will be accommodated in settlements in the Ostland? In Berlin we were told: why are you making all this trouble? We don't want them either, not in Ostland nor in the Reichskommissariat; liquidate them yourselves! Gentlemen, I must ask you to steel yourselves against all considerations of compassion. We must destroy the Jews wherever we find them, and wherever it is at all possible, in order to maintain the whole structure of the Reich... >The Jews represent for us also extraordinary malignant gluttons. We have now approximately 2,500,000 of them in the General Government [Nazi occupied Poland], perhaps with the Jewish mixtures and everything that goes with it, 3,500,000 Jews. We cannot shoot or poison those 3,500,000 Jews, but we shall nevertheless be able to take measures which will lead somehow to their annihilation, and this in connection with the gigantic measures to be determined in discussions with the Reich. Speech by Hans Frank [Governor of occupied Poland], December 16 1941.
Liam Scott
>call people brainlet >be communist
Ok kid
Easton Wright
Not an argument.
Isaiah Richardson
They provide sources you moron, what kind of faggot argument is that anyway. Why are communists such retards? Your system fails everywhere it's tried and the illogical nonsense that pours out of your mouths cannot be defended
Connor Lopez
>They provide sources you moron, what kind of faggot argument is that anyway The kind you weenies love to make, ie, (((Wikipedia))) -- but only when it suits you.
Christopher Smith
Communists, or people sympathetic to communism: Albert Einstein Thomas Mann Jean-Paul Sartre Pablo Picasso Anton Philips
The best and the brightest in every field of society, not to mention full time communist philosophers, theorists and politicians themselves. Nazis: pic very related.
Ryan Rogers
>reality doesn't share your bias
That's the most ironic thing a Marxist could say
Michael Gonzalez
What a fucking retard, you literally just used a quote of someone defending themselves and claim its not about defendingrg themselves. Who owned the institutions of society that were tearing the Weimar Republic apart? Ignorant commie faggots and your fantasy utopia, pathetic
Henry Morgan
So you admit that you're a narrow minded leftwing retard who had never read any literature that challenges his beliefs and instead relies on the leftwing propaganda he was indoctrinated to believe. Nice of you to mention that we don't read books whilst admitting you don't yourself, I swear everything that comes out of the mouths you lying faggots is projection
Colton Evans
>Who owned the institutions of society that were tearing the Weimar Republic apart? The Weimar Republic ended when Hitler came to power, so what are you saying -- he was out for revenge? Well then, you just made my case for me.
William Myers
Not an argument
Nicholas White
Cool list but who gives a shit about what a painter thinks? Really nigga?
Noah Smith
Neither was your faggot. Try believing in an ideology that hasn't failed everywhere it's been tried next time, alternatively you could just stop being a faggot and accept that you're a loser because of yourself
Levi Rodriguez
Hello gommunist. How does it feel to know you will live to see the last gommie country fall?
Mason Stewart
>Cool list but who gives a shit about what a painter thinks? Quite a lot of people, actually. Same with sportsmen and actors.
Lucas Rogers
>Try believing in an ideology that hasn't failed everywhere it's been tried According to you stromwipes, the purpose of Marxism is to destroy the West; are you arguing it hasn't actually done that now?
Ryan Hill
>Commie flag >Defending frankfurt school checks out helicopter yourself
Ian Perez
>helicopter yourself Sure thing statist.
Adrian Lewis
>nor were they propagating "political correctness" or identity politics The Weimar Republic would like to have a word with you faggot nigger.
Zachary Roberts
>Who owned the institutions of society that were tearing the Weimar Republic apart? The Nationalists. Hindenburg was a hardcore conservative (a monarchist). The justice system was also hardcore nationalist (SA thugs routinely got lighter, or none, sentences due to "nationalistic fervor"). The army was also Nationalist (they pledged fealty to Hitler on their own, without any pressure from Hitler).
Sup Forumstards like to think we are in a similar situation as Germany was in interwar. I think they are partially right. We are indeed in a similar situation, but the sides are reversed.
I honestly think that there will be a leftist coup/takeover in the USA on the next 20 years
Brody Hall
The Frankfurt School isn't responsible for Weimar Germany. I realize you think "da joos did dat", but these Jews came later.
Easton Davis
Gonna be meek here, but the very existence of a statehood strength and the fact that Marxism is critiqued on the impure determination of Marxist ideals from its very inception, is the counter to your claim that is has succeeded.
The process of which is performed does not justify a completion of that process, only the possibility. This is why we have stop signs and failsafes.
Parker Parker
>right winger >defending right wing stuff heh checks out, im so smart that I made a link between these two things and it checks out to me!
Brandon Lopez
Lol, what a retard. I showed what a moron before you even answered and you still couldn't come up with anything. If Wikipedia has sources then ignore Wikipedia and go straight to the sources, even a commie retard shouldn't have that much difficulty doing that Wow an argument from authority, I guess all the intellectuals of western civilisation who supported hitler prove that nazism must be a great system. No wonder you retards never make anything of yourselves, you think if a physicist claims a socio-economic system is good then it must be good, meanwhile reality tells a different story. You are beyond retarded if you think you've just said something that doesn't prove you're a complete moron
Julian Sullivan
the video from the guy, I quote
>from a scientific perspective race is totally bullshit
I'm not going to waste a another hour, I just suggest anyone to do the same, never reply to the commie poster just sage.
Wyatt Perez
Yes a source that's demonstrably biased to YOUR side of the argument dipshit. If the source was the daily stormer then you'd have a point.
Dominic Lewis
Holy shit the willing blindness of commies scare me, no wonder people flock to facism and nationalism, even fucking monarchy is more preferable than communism.
Connor Anderson
>commie calling someone statist That's schizophrenia right here
Aaron Sanders
According to reality faggot. Successful people don't want to be held back by losers like you. No one in their right mind would choose North Korea over South Korea, or east Germany over west Germany. Commies are just losers who are either embarrassed about the wealth they were born into or angry that they'll never be rich because they have no talent
Ayden Ross
>not knowing what post modernism is Wew
Cooper Long
>the counter to your claim that is has succeeded. I make no such claim. Communism isn't properly an "-ism", it's simply a goal. Marx said "stateless communism" was the goal, but there has never been such a thing as "stateless communism". So its true, communism has never failed or succeeded, because it never existed at all.
and join here, at least we're not 3-legged dog hypocrites like the lobotomy-left
Bentley Hughes
>Wow an argument from authority, I guess all the intellectuals of western civilisation who supported hitler prove that nazism must be a great system. No wonder you retards never make anything of yourselves, you think if a physicist claims a socio-economic system is good then it must be good, meanwhile reality tells a different story. It is not an argument of appeal for communism, you fool. It is an argument for high intellectualism of communism, that is obvious considering what I was responding to. Also, >all the intellectuals of western civilisation literally who?
Justin Rodriguez
I prefer stateless communism, and "lolbertarians" talking about helicopter rides are hypocrites. The man they worship was an extreme statist. You might realize that if any of you actually read books.
Liam Campbell
this guy is retarded and hasn't read The Culture of Critique so his opinion isn't really worth anything.
Jaxson Miller
>stateless communism >a situation where people are forced to forfeit their belongings and are forced to work for the collective >but there's no one to force them, because such force isn't here, since it's 'stateless' >everyone will just voluntarily become a slave, and those who won't will be forced by... by the great nothing, since there's no state
Adam Sanders
>all the intellectuals of western civilisation >literally who? All of them
ade teleione re misere
Henry Edwards
>stateless communism Do you also prefer sun rising in the west and setting in the east?
Oliver Taylor
>a situation where people are forced No force without a state herm? Makes you think.
Lucas Hughes
>this piece of propoganda proves all the actual evidence wrong Sup Forums how can you ever recover.
The indoctrination is strong in this one... Best just to KYS OP.
Kevin Rivera
Oh no you're right! They just had the exact same goals, ideals, and execution. But they were completely different. I bet you think Communism has never been tried either. This "documentary" is fucking retarded.
Caleb Morris
Looks like you didn't even manage to read my post, since you're just proving the point
James Thomas
>They just had the exact same goals, ideals, and execution. But they were completely different. The men guilty of Weimar weren't jews brainlet, so yes, completely different.
Justin Hughes
well OP the thing about the posen speech is that 1) it's translation has been disputed and 2) it's the only piece of hard, concrete evidence that anyone has ever been able to produce of any sort of plot to "exterminate the jews" and unfortunately it passed through the US governments hands and all of it's intelligence agencies, so there's never been any way to verify whether or not it's real or just a piece of wartime propaganda.
it is pretty suspicious that of everything that happened in WW2, and with this supposedly wide ranging, far reaching conspiracy plot, this would be the ONLY piece of evidence to supposedly exist.
i didn't even deny the holocaust or anything like that. i'm pretty agnostic about it but IMO OP you need to get in the habit of stopping and thinking about the stuff you see before you post it.
from what i read in this thread you seem to just take everything you hear (that confirms your narrative) at face value. maybe it's not that healthy of a practice is all i'd say.
Christian King
>Trying to talk sense into a schizophreniac who thinks that people could be forced into abandoning their ego and personal instinctive needs without any external force Wew lad
Anthony Myers
>Unironically weenie posting in CURRENT YEAR
Have you read a single book not on your community college reading list?
Sebastian Cook
Once again: >...wir hatten die Pflicht unserem Volk gengenüber das zu tun, dieses Volk, das uns umbringen wollte, umzubringen. ...we had the duty to our people to do it, to kill this people who wanted to kill us. The German word "umbringen" simply means "kill." There are no questions about this translation. Case closed.
Grayson Gutierrez
You know what else was true in my mind?
Jackson Martin
There is a very important part at the start of your post.... You seem to have ignored it... it causes the second part.
Bentley Lee
>we had the duty to our people to do it, to kill this people who wanted to kill us OP that's not a statement about jews though. you took it out of context >We have taken away the riches that they had, and ... I have given a strict order, which Obergruppenführer Pohl[3] has carried out, we have delivered these riches [carefully] to the Reich, to the State. We have taken nothing from them for ourselves. A few, who have offended against this, will be judged[4] in accordance with an order, [loudly] that I gave at the beginning: he who takes even one Mark of this is a dead man. [less loudly] A number of SS men have offended against this order. They are very few, and they will be dead men [yells] WITHOUT MERCY! We have the moral right, we had the duty to our people to do it, to kill[5] this people who would kill[5] us. he is talking about german SS soldiers there. you are propagandizing.
Gabriel Howard
>it's translation has been disputed and By who?
>it's the only piece of hard, concrete evidence that anyone has ever been able to produce of any sort of plot to "exterminate the jews"
Some of the camps are standing nowadays. And literally no one directly involved in the holocaust ever denied it.
Man, if Holocaust is fake, why didn't the juden forged a Hitler order?
Gabriel Morgan
>less than 1% of the population of Germany is controlling whether Hitler invades Poland So... Hitler confirmed for Jewish agent?
Luis Ramirez
"international"
Connor Davis
>By who? what does this even mean?? >Some of the camps are standing nowadays. And literally no one directly involved in the holocaust ever denied it. wow ok intro normie tier. "holocaust denial" isn't an idea that jews were never sent to camps. it's that hitlers plan was to send them to madagascar after the war and he never intented to "exterminate them".
the US had camps for japanese americans too, does that mean the US tried to "exterminate" japanese americans??
Yes. Himmler was talking about the belongings of dead jews. Himmler forbade the SS grunts from enriching themselves, but had no quarrels when it was him or his henchmen doing the enrichment part
Jack Wood
"the holocaust" - the idea that hitler rounded up 15 million jews for "extermination", and then fed them, clothed them, housed them and guarded them for a decade at great fiscal expense to his own empire because he received diminishing returns on labor that didn't even come close to financing the overall operation.
sure. toppest of keks.
Jeremiah Hall
yeah but OP cited this as a statement about "murdering jews". we all know jews died during WW2, for a great variety of reasons, just like any other group, that doesn't mean that there was some sort of secretive conspiracy to "genocide them all", for which no evidence has ever been produced.
Aiden Butler
leftypol faggots. Sage report auto hide.
Isaac Martinez
So, 0.01 % of the world's population was "forcing" Hitler to invade Poland?
Brandon Richardson
The translation was supposedly disputed. Disputed by who?
> it's that hitlers plan was to send them to madagascar after the war and he never intented to "exterminate them".
Plans change according to the necessities of the current paradigm. The Madagascar plan became impossible to carry once Vichy France lost control of the colonies and Britain imposed a blockade on Germany. After that extermination became a answer to the Jewish question
>think pls user >implying i haven't read all the stormtards arguments before
I thought wikipedia was not credible
Wyatt Robinson
Communism is Judaism for the goyim.
If you're a self-hating white communist, you are the worst of Shabbos goyim, probably indoctrinated in (((college))).
Oliver Evans
Jews comfirmed for master race. I'm going to cut my dick right away
>yeah but OP cited this as a statement about "murdering jews". Because it obviously is. Why did Himmler felt the need to forbid the looting of jewish belongings? Because it was happening, you dimwitted retard.
>for which no evidence has ever been produced. If you ignore everything, then sure, no evidence was produced.
If you don't like that quote, i posted a couple more earlier in the thread. Check them out.
Lincoln Cruz
Antifa shills everybody, they usually come in pairs find the other one, lol. The Franfurt school was founded by Frankist followers of Zevi, literal satanist. You don't argue with stupid, or evil, you point and laugh until its time to get the rope. Hahaha you jew faggots, we see you for what you are!
Jayden Bennett
>The translation was supposedly disputed. Disputed by who? i didn't say this, you said this. i said the translation of the posen speeches that specifically relate to a plot to supposedly "murder" or "exterminate" jews has been disputed. because the word "ausrotten" can be demonstrated to have been used, during Hitlers time, to mean simply "root out" (which would be in accordance to the madagascar plan), as opposed to today in germany where it only means to exterminate.
>Plans change according to the necessities of the current paradigm. The Madagascar plan became impossible to carry once Vichy France lost control of the colonies and Britain imposed a blockade on Germany. After that extermination became a answer to the Jewish question
all you do is strawman me. i didn't say anything about the madagascar plan still being hitlers plan in say 1943 or 1944. but the point is that you can't provide any evidence that there ever was a decision made about a plan to "exterminate jews", because no such evidence exists.
>I thought wikipedia was not credible is this even serious right now? you people will go to any lengths to dismiss facts and information that upsets your narrative and your vision of what you WANT to be true
Mason Miller
I am self-aggrandizing white communist with a 1/4 Ashkenazi ancestry, though.