Why is everyone against individuality these days? The left hates it. The right hates. Normies hate it...

Why is everyone against individuality these days? The left hates it. The right hates. Normies hate it. The concept of being an individual is treated with mockery and hostility. I don't understand why being yourself is such an offensive idea to people.

its something ive discussed and thought about personally. came to the conclusion that its just simply easier to copy popular people, and others are likely to agree with you and you will be liked more. stupidity and laziness not malice

learn HOW to think, not what to think

Because trying to be an individual at the expense of social interaction with groups will turn you into a agoraphobic weirdo

Wait, are you offended that nobody cares about you, nobody is like you and you're all alone.... an individual? Wew, harsh!

wats gunna work? team work

Personality is hostile to modernism.

>the right hates it
not so much they're stuck in a battle to retain it

Te K-12 "education" system is designed to destroy your free will, extend childhood, and get you to take orders. Most people are literal serfs with no autonomy.

trust the canadian to be an effeminate conformist loser, would never have seen that one coming

Your country isnt the land of the free, if you we're you would be more anarchic/ libertarian
Federal and states governments enjoy passing laws to rule your behavior

Imo you can blame the christians for ruining it first

I don't have friends because friends are a waste of time. Go solo, fuck what anybody else thinks.

You can't define a mass, social effort of people within the context of isolated individuals. We're all in this together, we sink or swim as a people.

Because the white race is going to be extinct in less than 50 years so we have to groupthink to survive.

The left was never for freedom and anything left of radical reactionary sentiment is marxist and communist. The right recognizes that freedom only worked in a white society, and that kikes are exploiting our racial strife, which they primarily have caused - to destroy our free society which worked before. Now, in order to stop the communists, and white genocide, and eventual full white extermination - we must take away the communists ability to be communists, and the jews ability to own newspapers, or land... and things like this. We need to recognize that if you want to be a woman, but youre a man, that youre mentally ill.. maybe a lobotomy is the only solution, but this type of shit needs to be fixed, or our race is going to die. National Socialism is a mix of individualism and collectivism, the left however cares nothing for the individual.

True individualists don't give a shit what anyone says. They can hate all they want.

Why would I be offended? I accept that there are consequences to not fitting in. I'm fine with being a loner and an outcast. Why does that bother you?

/thread

>The right hates.
Whatever, kike.

Because no man is an island, and successful/thriving societies aren't comprised of autistic utility-maximising sociopaths acting purely out of rational self-interest.

>implying

The Left is paradoxically individualism taken to its logical conclusion, i.e. "we must dismantle every possible barrier there is between humanity and self-actualisation"

I think it's a valid argument.
Why are you being so verbose?
Are you perhaps, uncivilized swine?

>Are you perhaps, uncivilized swine?
are you japanese?

By this logic we're reduced to the same level as farm animals.

What's the point of being alive if you're just glorified livestock?

No man is an island, and all men are inexorably linked to others.
For better or for worse, all men's actions affect both the men of today, and the men of tomorrow.

This is why I appreciate being an introvert with no friends, other than the ones who tend to think similarly but are content with being an individual being.

You got japanese from that?
Really dude?

>By this logic we're reduced to the same level as farm animals.

Get back to us when farm animals have invented societies that require considerable levels of social capital, trust, etc to survive

>What is the point of being alive?
What is the alternative though?
Not living?
If you are ready to take that risk that there is some sort of existence for our consciousness after we die then you have the option.

>societies that require considerable levels of social capital, trust, etc to survive

They do have that. It's called a herd.

Most people spend their time running away from themselves, drowning out their thoughts with food, alcohol, t.v, facebook, they are repulsed at themselves, the idea of being an individual, to them is alien.

You conveniently left out the other part of my question.

If you're just glorified livestock, with no mind or personality of your own, going along with the rest of the herd just because, then what's the point?

The group considers the individual a threat because they don't control him. The individual isn't interested in normieball, going out drinking every night, and blabbering on about meaningless horeshit. The individual seeks his own answers and doesn't let BuzzFeed tell him what to think.

Those are the kind of people who have never had an independent thought in their entire lives. The kind of people who will buy certain clothes to fit in with. I think extroverts require so much human interaction is because they need approval all the time

>Why is everyone against individuality these days? The left hates it. The right hates. Normies hate it. The concept of being an individual is treated with mockery and hostility. I don't understand why being yourself is such an offensive idea to people.
Individualism is good for the innovators of society, not society as a whole

Yeah, well the individual me is a lazy NEET who childlishly wants nothing in this grand life he's been given. I'd rather be someone else.

The Internet gave us maximum individuality and for the most part, it was derivative, cliched, and disgusting.

Yet in this thread there are rightwingers straight up condemning individuality.

This. There will always be plebs

You're content living like a domesticated animal? It's no wonder you want to be somebody else.
We all have our part in nature, find what yours is.

It's my pyre Agoraphobe if I want to
Afford to be consumed
This pyre's my costume
Get too close it'll lick you, like it likes you
'cause it loathes you even more than I do

I embrace my eccentricities. Fuck people. Now that I’ve almost stopped caring completely about anything a cunt says, I’m close to freedom. I’m alone. I trust no one. I believe almost nothing anyone tells me. I’m not some clueless aut either. I can interact with people and no one would even know. I chose not too unless it’s unavoidable. Humans are vile repulsive filth.

>traditionalists in favor of individualism

LMAO

And what exactly has that proved? Yes we build complex, interwoven societies. And to a degree we’re all in it together. But this is all for shit on a macro level. War. Disaster. Alien invasion. Things that literally do effect MOST of us.

Day to day, it’s just me. Until the alien invasion stay the fuck away from me. I’d rather be alone.

The left is sometimes individualist, sometimes collectivist, depending on their mood. Leftists have a muddled and confused worldview. The left is collectivist in the sense that they want massive wealth redistribution, they think we should all get a slice of the pie while holding hands and singing kumbaya. But on the other hand, leftists are very individualist because they think they should be allowed to indulge in degenerate behavior without being judged or suffering any consequences; they think they should be allowed to get high and breed multiple bastard offspring with multiple loser men, and you're not allowed to judge their filthy lifestyle and you (the taxpayer) have to pay for their mistakes. They're individualists when it suits them: "Don't judge me, I can do what I want, I'm not obliged to follow your antiquated social mores, I can do what I want with my body and you have to fund my degeneracy with your hard-earned taxes!"

But the right also has collectivists and individualists, although I think the right is more consistent in their views. Right-libertarians and fiscal conservatives like Milton Friedman and Margaret Thatcher are very individualistic. On the other hand, traditional Burkean conservatism is kind of a mixture of collectivism and individualism; traditionalist conservatives believe that society is made up of individuals who are bound by a common culture, and we therefore have duties and obligations unto one another (a concept known as organic unity).

nice bread. I was telling some acquaintances at work how I drove all along the states coast just to experience it and the first question they asked was who did you go with? I answered by myself and you could just feel the tension rise with a silence like I had done something taboo because being an individual and doing something like trekking or having fun by yourself is impossible in their minds.

I also always get the same response when normies ask what kind of social I am on and I say none. Their brain just shuts off.

It's not an offensive idea, nor do people hate it. If you're saying that you're a loner and you don't want to be part of a group, that's fine as well. Just keep in mind that as an individual with no group, you're going to be at a severe disadvantage dealing with other individuals who do have a group.

The bigger picture that the individualists fail to understand is that individualism and collectivism are not mutually exclusive states of being. One can exist simultaneously as an individual, and as a member of a group. All that's required is for some elements of your individual identity to be the same as some elements of other individuals within the group, and for you and others to acknowledge these elements in common.

I remember a few years back telling a coworker I spent an entire long weekend reading. Just reading. Literally every waking moment. I read four of Updike’s Rabbit series and I was lost in them. My place could have burned down around me. She looked at me like I was the weirdest, saddest and creepiest person she’d ever met. She refused to believe me. “No on reads that much” she told me. I got an eye roll too.

Explain in detail pls.

Because it's just apathy. It shows that you are myopic and likely to be untrustworthy. You ignore the world around you and that's stupidity. You cannot be aware and not pick a side. The truths of this world cannot be seen without affecting your worldview. You're just a kind of stupid. You may be otherwise intelligent but you have 0 in your perception stat.

>he spends his weekends reading

Individual = person not following my orders.

His implication is modernism is groupthink so being individual is a threat to the Integrity of post-modernism as a movement, individual thinkers will always think for their own best interests rather than or before the group.

...

>when Pixar drops a redpill

HELEN:"Everyone's special, Dash."

DASH "Which is another way of saying no one is."

and

SYNDROME: "Everyone can be super. And when everyone's super...no one will be."
[evil laughter]

Unfortunately, in human society (as well as other species) there is strength in numbers. It seems to be a universal constant and there's just no way around it.

Because it is time to pick a side.

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Individualism is a conditional luxury. If conditions change enough then groupism is entirely necessary, both as a matter of rational self-interest but also as a matter of moral necessity.

>modernism is groupthink so being individual is a threat to the Integrity of post-modernism as a movement

This doesn't make any sense. Modernism =/= Post-modernism. Modernism included a gambit of various "big memes" like liberty, individualism, God and Country (and others like "World Peace" etc). The cultural logic of PoMo was a reaction and further deconstruction of that, both intentional and organic.

Wow, great post.

I like that you went through the effort to ensure it was written in the written language you developed independently using the website you developed independently on the computer you constructed and developed an operating system, keyboard driver, and web browser. (which you evidently used to send packets over the network that you single-handedly constructed all the supporting infrastructure for)

Just kidding, you're an egotistical faggot.

I'm also sort of an autist.

Jesus Christ, how can you possibly write something so asinine?

Technically, OP... You are witnessing divide and conquer strategies.

I.E. Playing both sides against the middle, and controlling opposition.

I'll give you an example of what I'm talking about:

The Evolution vs Creationism debate.

On the one side, you have authoritarian televangelists, peddling a story about how intelligence isn't hereditary, because hereditary traits don't exist, due to "God did it"

And on the other side, you have SJW "Athiest Scientists" promoting "Evolution" without even knowing what it is or does, but they still believe that intelligence isn't hereditary.

Sure, there are plenty of other, more rational voices in the debate, but the entire debate is framed by the media as an either or scenario:

God created all life and intelligence isn't hereditary

OR

Evolution created all life, and intelligence isn't hereditary.

Do you see the pattern here?

Groupthink is for slaves, not free men.

Free men form their own opinions.

We live in a world full of broken puppet masters, and we ourselves are our own puppets.
If you want individuality without a healed world then you'll have to re-purpose the part of your brain that requires communication for something more fitting and forget about all of this. Otherwise you do the same but tell others how to heal themselves instead of forgetting, thus true individuality comes into play.
Can't re-purpose? Learn to tense your backbone segments (all of them) and pull the strings. Das it.

You'de be surprised, central leftist cuck.