I am a liberal male and have a question for the females of pol
How can you subscribe to an ideology that thinks of you as nothing more than property that is to be used for breeding, maintaining the home and pleasing your husband so that rightwing men can feel powerful?
The fact that I've encountered so many righting women has really lowered my perception of women, you'd think an ideology whose adherents think very lowly of women would have few women supporters.
Well it's a good thing you haven't had a lowered opinion of women. That would make you some kind of conservative or something.
Elijah Nelson
What a retarded world view you've made up and projected on the conservative right? Why do you think that's how it is. Do you honestly believe there is a good and evil side here. Liberals are fucking insane hey
Thomas Sullivan
as a stay at home mother
youre a beta as bitch into the gas chambers with you
Gavin Powell
being an atomised corporate wagecuck is more meaningful than intimately raising and caring for human beings in their most important period of their lives, you're right. marx would be ashamed at your concept of "liberation", faggot.
Kevin Anderson
This is literally what lefties think. The right are evil and controlling of women.
Here's a thought.
If a company places a system to hire 50 percent women and 50 percent men because women are under represented. Then everyone has the opinion that the women got there because of a handout and not hard work. Then who's head is that on? The liberal lefties or the conservative right.
You fucking retard
Angel Torres
Hello strawman!
Jaxon Lopez
That's a Maine licence plate. Thank god my fellow Mainahs have their heads screwed on straight.
David Cook
youre the one that thinks so low of women that being a mother raising children, mainting the home and making our husband happy isnt good enough that we have to pretend to be men to make you happy. youre a fuckwad
Joseph Stewart
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Hudson Butler
>come to me woman, I'll protect you from the evil meanies on Sup Forums that want to use you as sex objects because you can't defend yourself
Ryan Bennett
>How can you subscribe to an ideology that thinks of you as nothing more than property that is to be used for breeding, maintaining the home and pleasing your husband I think you're thinking of Islam mate
Benjamin Reyes
See: Strawman Argument
Xavier Long
because nazis are just like soooooo hot omg
i want their strong hands around my neck lustily breeding me
Robert Ramirez
I know that guy. His gf is named Liser
Thomas Sanders
You think you're sure an edgy freethinker fee of dogma and yet all of your ideas and values were placed in your head by others and society in general
Nathan Howard
It's easy to attentionwhore with these types of losers.
Bentley Thompson
You sound pretty islamophobic soy boi :3
Levi Robinson
>valuing natural order and respecting women is an ideology that thinks of you as nothing more than property that is to be used for breeding
Christopher Bennett
If you're really a woman then you'll know the answer to this question.
does 0.999... = 1?
Leo Foster
Because it's the natural order of things, you effeminate numale. >8And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. 9And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? 10And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself. 11And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat? 12And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat. 13And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
>14And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
>15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
>16Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
>17And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
>18Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
>19In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
>20And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
Aaron Allen
false premise.
women-as-property is a concept derived from your liberal propaganda as a false classification of traditional values.
traditional societies with dichromatic compliments of masculinity / femininity deeply value femininity
only within leftist echo chambers are traditional values equated to women-as-property.
Thomas Nelson
There is one whose rash words are like sword thrusts, but the tongue of the wise brings healing. Proverbs 12:18
Josiah Walker
uncuck yourself
Luis Rogers
No.
Dominic Wood
>property that is to be used for breeding, maintaining the home and pleasing your husband >thinks he's on a muslim site
Jayden Parker
>has really lowered my perception of women Your ego is showing.
Austin Mitchell
Women aren't property! They're all nothing but consumers of abortions and would-be scientists and engineers who are the victims of patriarchy.
Matthew Allen
>How can you subscribe to an ideology that thinks of you as nothing more than property that is to be used for breeding, maintaining the home and pleasing your husband so that rightwing men can feel powerful?
lol delusonal.
Wyatt Gomez
I honestly don't give a fuck about what some liberal male thinks of me.
Colton Bennett
How can you be a liberal male, when, in your own post, you have indicated that you have come into contact with things that are contrary to premises that only liberal males can hold.
Aaron Martinez
Before we have any real discussion, how can I be sure you are trying to have one? How do I know you are not just another troll? (not a woman but can answer the question)
Jose Gomez
It's the natural order of the strong to take from the weak. i take it you have no problem with blacks killing a disproportionate number of whites and committing a disproportionate amount of crime.
Liam Sanders
do you prefer a muslim or a black fucking your wife while you masturbate with your tears in the corner
Carson Nelson
A more traditional world produces women like pic related. The world we have now produces women who think they are pic related.
Lucas Richardson
Question to you, liberal cuck, taking everything you just said how do you endlessly defend Islam?
Jonathan Russell
>niggers >strong
Jaxson Gomez
You are assuming the inability to form a civil society, raise crops, invent the wheel of the sail, or hold a job... and being forced by failure to live on welfare and rob and steal makes one "strong".
You know how I know that you have an IQ of 85, user?
Aaron Butler
This kike gets it.
Sebastian Russell
Sup Forums doesn't give a shit about your gender you stupid liberal cuck. LURK MORE. Saged.
Evan Peterson
We aren't Muslims dumbfuck. We don't see women as property
Meanwhile though you libtards will defend islam
Ryan Evans
How does committing a lot of crime make someone strong? Criminals are weak, scared, and cowardly.
Landon Miller
>How can you subscribe to an ideology that thinks of you as nothing more than property that is to be used for breeding, maintaining the home and pleasing your husband so that rightwing men can feel powerful?
Because right wing men are HOTTT
Brody Bennett
Bug men aren't sexually appealing to me and y'all are too subservient. Sweet, but ultimately boring. You'd be a good safety net if divorce court didn't almost always decide in the woman's favor anyway.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
Because it's hot. I like it when a man treats me like shit. I like it when he calls me a slut a whore and uses me during sex. I love it when he forces me to deepthroat him. I love it when a dominant guy picks me up like a ragdoll and fucks me so hard that I faint. I love it when he throws me over his shoulder like a prize. I love it when I'm making breakfast and he bends me over the table and fucks me. I love it when a guy takes me to the edge and back. I love arrogant and strong man.
Carter Robinson
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Levi Thomas
'Merica.
Adrian Foster
Am I supposed to be offended that a man would provide for me while I raise our children? What fucking rights matter when you god-awful left-wing meat-puppets run around clamoring for my (white) children to be the slaves of your sexual deviant brown thugs or your even-more sexually deviant Jew masters? You'd think that even more women would have come around to the fact that "womens liberation," was just a stupid trick to get us on the cock-carousel, into jobs we hate, and onto drugs we don't need, all in order to make your rich capitalist bosses a little more money while simultaneously screwing us out of the children and grandchildren that give our lives infinitely more meaning than your hollow materialism.
Quite honestly, I don't know how any of you still call yourselves "left wing," anymore. I was "left leaning," as a girl. I loved the idea that people should treat the unfortunate well if they could and that bosses should be generous to workers. But you aren't about any of that. You're all the most decadent capitalist nihilists in human history. The only thing you care about LESS than the body of women like me are the children I love more than my life itself. Go fuck yourself with a chainsaw you miserable piece of shit.
>t. mother of four
Leo Stewart
Women like being treated exactly how they deserve. They want to be a slave to a strong man they love.
Easton Reyes
Is this the best you can do? Lurk more faggot
Hunter Morales
How much testosterone do I need to drive that vehicle?
Isaac Howard
why larp as a fat gurl tho?
Kevin Parker
All of them. Some liberal kike will try to vandalize that car and the owner will have to have enough balls to fight back.
Asher Richardson
>"Women are only allowed to believe what I tell them to believe" >Thinks he's the nice guy in this situation >Wonders why women don't want anything to do with him
Josiah Jackson
it's not breeding.. it's giving life to a precious child that carries the lineage of you and the man you love and married
it's not maintaining the home like some janitor.. it's creating a home for you and your family where you will live and create memories, where your children will be happy to live in
and it's not "pleasing" your husband like some slave.. it is being a reliable wife and honoring your commitments to the person you love. my husband works and provides for our family, is a good father, would give his life for me and my children.. sorry, i don't see how pleasing him and treating him well is such a huge sacrifice after all he does
i know my husband loves me and i love him. it is normal to want to do things and please the people you love. he pleases me when he buys me nice things, when he is a good father, when he provides for us.. it's reciprocity
we don't care for your nihilism
Christopher Jones
This thread makes me proud of the women who browse Sup Forums
Keep popping out dem white babies
Tyler Harris
Feminism isn't about total eradication of traditional gender roles, it's about those of both sexes having choice in the matter of their roles instead of sheepishly going along with things they don't agree with. Some women indeed prefer the traditional housewife/stay at home mom approach and others don't, same with some men not wanting to be the provider and treat women like queens but rather like equals and vice versa. Also feminism is actually an outgrowth of white supremacism, just look up the history of the links between them. For example, sex was added as a protected category in the Civil Rights Acts to protect white women from being discriminated against in favor of colored women who would be protected via the race protection. A lot of openly racist Congressmen supported regulating sex discrimination but still voted against the bills final passage on racial grounds even though they knew it would pass anyway but that was in conscience on race with white female protection done as a countermeasure. encyclopediavirginia.org/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964 Margaret Sanger the founder of Planned Parenthood was also a racist eugenicist btw. Abortion/birth control affects minorities way more than whites. Isn't that just great to learn :)
Isaac Cook
underrated
Juan Howard
Would lift up her shirt and bang her against the wall.
Mason Roberts
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Gabriel Thompson
Damn straight
Michael Taylor
only liberals think this
Jaxon Cook
Maybe if she was a SJW she'd be fat. She right leaning and prolly in better shape than you faggot
Easton Lopez
All I want is to have a loving, trustworthy woman to marry and raise children with. I want her to have a cushy life with the kids, taking care of them at home protected by two big dogs and guns while I work and provide for them.
I want to shower her in gifts and take her and the kids on vacations and provide for my family until it's time for me to retire and enjoy our golden years together until I finally shuffle off this mortal coil, happy I lived such a simple life. That's all I want, and I don't think I'll get it because the Left has set out to destroy marriage and I'm terrified if I do get married I'll just end up divorced and paying out the ass in alimony for a bitch I stuck my dick in a couple times.
Carter Richardson
>>How can you subscribe to an ideology that thinks of you as nothing more than property
I don't. You faggot.
Unless it applies to men too, in which case, I subscribe to "humans as property" because they ARE property. Especially according to atheists. Most people just disagree as to who the rightful owner(s) should be.
I don't believe humans should "belong" to other humans. They belong to god. Also, there's nothing wrong with having children, taking care of your home, and making your husband feel powerful. Why would those things be bad? Why do you assume those things imply servitude? Seems you have some deep biases, friend.
James Clark
Because of faggs like you
Cameron Hughes
Very well said btw. I couldn't agree more. In fact I'm envious. I don't mind working outside the home, I just wish it wasn't as much.
Colton Hill
I don't endlessly defend islam nor am i a cuck.
Brody Gonzalez
>protected by dogs No no no no. Never ever get dogs for protection. If they die, your wife and kids and hopefully you too will be heartbroken. Just do self defense training with your waifu, as well as gun training, and invest in some serious high quality security systems. [spoiler]At least, I would.[/spoiler][spoiler] I'll be your wife as long as you let me own a horse or two or ten to take care of. We'd have to adopt as well since I'm infertile.[/spoiler]
Jacob Gray
t. mudshit loving cuck
Jason Jackson
>tfw you forget spoiler tags don't work on Sup Forums fugg :D
Elijah Thompson
Says the one who is being the oppressor? What because I have a clit I have to think like you do or I'm not woman enough?
I don't like ignorant people who ironically try to be edgy racists because "lol niggers amiright?", but I like my men strong who know how to take a woman down a peg or two when need be.
It's personality first and everything else second, what's not to understand?
John Hernandez
I want the same, but in a man. I'm terrified of wasting my best years with a man just to have him leave me and turn me into a single mom.
As shitty as the situation is for guys, don't forget that most women have a lot more to lose in a divorce. You can go prenup to save future assets. Women can't exactly undo childbirth. The sad thing is, women are being manipulated and destroyed thanks to the left, and most of them don't understand the implications of their ideology. And all of these supposedly "pro-women" policies just fuck women over even more, especially in the long-term.
Each gender gets fucked. The way we're fucked changes depending on whether you're a man or woman, but most people can't see past the immediate symptoms, so they blame the opposite sex. It's the ultimate divide and conquer tactic. Men don't understand women, and women don't understand men. It's easy to blame something you don't understand. Gender-wars are the most reliable killer of civilization.
Aaron Hill
>take a woman down a peg or to In what way? Because if you're advocating for domestic violence hoo boy I feel bad for your dumb ass.
Kayden Edwards
leftist beat thier women and women have to wirk, with right wing man women dont have to work
you just showed your idiocy by instantly going to domestic violence.
I'm not going to allow my sons to be mistreated by a woman who is showing nothing but disrespect. They have a right to defend themselves. Doesn't mean I'm going to teach them to beat the shit out of their wives, but rather to not be afraid to stand up for themselves and defend how they feel in whatever situation.
They know they are mostly stronger than woman, but having a harpy screaming in your face calling you every name in the book, yeah she totally is a respectable woman who doesn't deserve to be called a cunt. Right?
Hudson Martinez
Isn't it better if they do work, though? I'd feel bad making my husband do all the work, though I guess someone has to clean the house and feed/take care of the pets. Which constitutes as work.
Thomas Hernandez
>knocking a woman down a peg or two You really don't see why I'd think domestic violence? Don't be fucking retarded. Anyway, fighting like that is not good and you shouldn't marry psycho bitches like that, nor should you be a psycho bitch yourself.
Angel Wright
Women lose only one thing in most divorces. The husband that they no longer want. More often than not, they keep the kids and a portion of his income at least until those children have graduated college (extending past 18) and at times alimony for themselves. Palimony is exceedingly rare and women have to either not want the kids, be certifiably insane, proven junkies, or have a criminal record to lose the children.
Landon Allen
Horse women are the worse women.
Worse than liberal women.
Jordan Rodriguez
Bigly underrated
Luis Roberts
>t. inner city faggot who's never been with or near female ranchers Take your beta ass somewhere else, fag.
Camden Baker
How do you as a man believe in an ideology that believes men are nothing but rapists and racists with no redeaming qualities? Might answer you're own question.
Robert Roberts
you clearly have never heard of the idiom knocking a person down a peg or two. You went to abuse I was only referring to standing up for oneself by calling the other person out. Says more about you than it does me, really.
Also who says my kids are old enough to marry, that's why I'm teaching them now to have some self respect your mother clearly never taught you. So that way when they do meet a woman, if she is constantly being a bitch to them, they'll know they deserve better. Doesn't mean they are better than the woman, just that they have feelings and rights to cherish as well.
I'm sorry you never seemed to grasp self respect.
Brandon Ortiz
I /have/, but in that context it sounds like "punch a bitch in the face for dinner getting cold".
Also, you don't know me or my life, so kindly kill yourself you nigger.
Grayson Richardson
Nazis are not feminists
Nathaniel Myers
I didn't give any context, you made your own, which happened to go straight to violence, which is suspect of you feeling this way.
Your right I don't,but now I feel I know you more than anyone else on this thread. It's ok user, I'm sorry that you experienced abuse, but standing up for yourself is not abusive towards woman. You can let her go user, run and be free. Quick while she thinks your making dinner, just turn off the computer and run for freedom.
Jacob Ross
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Matthew Scott
I'm sorry for being an asshole. I have experienced abuse my entire life, and no I don't think standing up for yourself is inherently abusive. Rather there are a /lot/ of right wing men on here and in real life who think it's their right to "discpline" "disobedient" women for children. And I don't mean for that woman/child holding a knife at them, I mean things like, quite literally, dinner getting cold because they didn't eat it fast enough, or for accidentally spilling milk. I know this because I lived it. And it's scary to think that these kinds of backwards individuals might have power on Sup Forums. Just because left wing men are cucks and often victims of female-on-male abuse doesn't mean it's okay for a right wing man to hit his wife unless out of self defense. That's why my mind immediately went to "I'll teach my sons to fuck their wives up for not saying 'sir' after every sentence".
Dominic Allen
My right-wing wife is VP of ops at a manufacturing plant. My best friend's right-wing wife is head of QC at a packaging plant. And my other best friend's wife is a housewife.
You think we don't value our women? Where'd you get a stupid fucking idea like that?
We value the fuck out of our women - mostly because their value is 1000x that of the average cum dumpster libcunt.
We value our women - because unlike you, they have value.
Elijah Green
Wow, I truly am sorry to hear this user, if it's real. I didn't mean to make you instantly think of abuse, but no that is not what I meant at all.
I agree with you completely, I just want my boys and maybe future daughter to know that respect is a two way street and no one deserves abuse of any kind. Whether verbal or physical.
More to the point of the /thread I just get sick and tired of people telling me I have to think like OP otherwise I'm a disgrace to women. It's backwards thinking this that sets everyone back. Little girls won't even try to follow their dreams because why bother, the "patriarchy" will just deny you it. It's idiotic thinking that turns people into what they sadly are turning into today.
Ian Powell
No idiot.... since you are defending your bullshit I will explain to those who don't know yet about the filth that is "horse women"... I grew up on a 100 acre ranch... We had as many as 8 Quarter horses.. I spent my weekends fixing fences and cleaning up after your beloved horses... All horses do is eat, shit, piss and rack up vet bills. Horses are fragile creatures... "Too much grain, ohhh they get sick" ... Playing rough "They are injured" ... Horse fight like fucking savages and have a brain the size of a walnut... They are EXPENSIVE wasteful creatures from a past world only idiots enjoy keeping horses. ...
Horse women... YOU ARE LITERALLY SHIT.... You will sell your left kidney to feed your fucking horse. You will have rotting teeth to provide for your horse... Your horse was your first crush.. your first attraction was to a horse.. not saying you literally fuck horses.. Which you might.. but more likely you view all men through a lense that is shaped by horses... You want men to be passive, strong silent types, which you can saddle and control with a bit in their fucking mouths... You are manipulative, crafty and back stabbing.. Because you are irrational and don't have a good job, like most horse women, you have to be a fucking lying cheat to maintain money for your prince. You never grew out of your childhood fantasy to have a horsey and now you will rope some poor fucking idiot into your web if irrational lies... Why? Because you are a horse woman and that's what you do.. Worst of all is you ACT like you are old fashioned and traditional but instead of viewing horses as a mode of transportation or a utility they are the fucking center of your life.... You are scum.. horse women are scum and I will warn all men to avoid the trap that a horse woman like you has in store for them.
Fellas NEVER FUCKING EVER talk to, date, or God forbid marry one of these fucking horse girls. They are often dumb as rocks and will destroy your life.
Zachary Edwards
>Derp derp why do women want to be property
Have you ever read a romance novel? Those things women pay to read in order to have orgasms? Why don't you start with "The Flame and the Flower." It's one of the best selling romance novels of all time. It's about this pirate, okay? And he rapes the protaganist. And then he rapes her again. And then he keeps raping her over and over for like 100 pages. And then when she starts being a good girl, he rewards her by not raping her for the rest of the night.
You think other romance novels are different? It's just rapes, dominant men, alpha males, on and on and on. These are women's inner fantasies. They pay to read this shit. Get back to us once you've read a couple of them.
CHICKS. DIG. ASSHOLES.
It couldn't be any other way, if you think about it. We evolved in a world where life was nasty, brutish, and short. The best way for a woman to survive was to fuck the biggest asshole in the tribe. Now do you understand why women like right wing men and think you're a total pussy?
Elijah Johnson
That goes down to the warping of ideology and its impact on the female mind. The impacts are more long-term. Women with children are less likely to find a quality man, so any post-divorce relationships are more likely to fail.
It's harder on the kids, which'll make it harder for them to succeed post high-school. Those kids will neet in mummy's house and continue draining resources from her long past any court mandate against men.
I'm not sure what to think about the actual initiation of divorce. Women tend to get emotional tunnel-vision when things go sour, and society encourages them to blame men for all the bad things, while intentionally confusing the emotional stakes in order to encourage shittier decisions.
I think it's just more examples of marxist manipulation. I don't think it has anything to do with what women actually want. It's much harder to know what you want when you don't understand how you're feeling about what you have. Marxists love to pretend they have the "right" answers, but their core is empty. Most men focus on the tangible, and tend to get tunnel vision on the opposite end (focusing too much on the tangible, like overworking). But masculine tunnel-vision is at least 'productive' in that it tends to focus on action, while female tunnel-vision is destructive, in that it tends to focus on retreat.
there are so many forces at play that harms civilization, and the sad thing is, we really need to sort through all of it before we can turn shit around. internet seems to be our last chance.
Andrew Torres
I have this, and I can think for myself.
Jack Butler
>Be liberal >live like a degenerate and not give a fuck what happens to society >Die alone in a nursing home with no children or grandchildren around
>Be Conservative >Have lots of children and maintain civilization for the next generation >Die knowing your line will continue and not become some miserable cat lady like liberal women are destined to become.
Charles Lopez
Your describing Islam, you stupid LIMP
Grayson Thomas
Truth. I agree with everything you said. I appreciate that such things haven't quite fully infected where I live, and most women here live on farms and are very strong women, who believe in hard work, not some sort of "patriarchy". But I've had feminists tell me those women are "brainwashed" and "literal slaves" to the men in their lives. Sure, maybe some, but because of abuse, not because of some preconceived notion of slavery. Women and men are appreciated here because both of what they offer to society andbecause gender doesn't matter here, but not in the liberal sense--in the sense that if you want to be a stay at home dad, be one. (Okay, that's kind of liberal, but still) If you want to be a working woman, be one. But just do whatever you do well. I literally had a feminist tell me that my female cousin being a registered nurse is "patriarchy", and when I asked her how a hardworking woman getting a nursing degree is sexist, she said that, in the most hilariously horseshit way possible, that "expecting a woman to work hard is sexist". Which is pretty goddamned sexist if you ask me--saying that, I mean.
Sorry for getting emotional and calling you names. Unrelated things are stressing me out. I hope you have a good day, user.
Hudson Perez
Holy shit that's a lot of autism and cancer in one post.