I came to Sup Forums and Sup Forums 3 years ago as a socialist liberal. I just took the site as a joke, to get a laugh. Slowly over time my friend and this site showed me to more and more truths. The videos from time to time showing what nazi germany used to look like. Or the pictures of a white picket fence 50s house was much better than anything I had imagined in a socialist (liberal socialism not national) society.
I just want a homeland for me and my children to live peacefully on a farm and in a nice house without the impurities of today's society.
Thank you Sup Forums for bringing me to the truth, but I hate you for giving me a hope in something so great that may never happen. And that pains me.
TL:DR I used to be a libertarian/socialist. Now I'm turning into a fascist/national socialist.
Don't worry, you won't be fifteen years old forever
Kevin Hernandez
I'm 23
Isaac Young
>TL:DR I used to be a libertarian/socialist if you ever thought those two things were compatible, i've got some bad news for you
John Howard
you aren't there yet kiddo, read some neo-reactionary blogs,books etc...
Fascism is still in essence democratic and democracy is cancer.
Jayden Gray
This is either a bait thread or you literally understand nothing about any of the ideologies you listed.
Samuel Johnson
Which one are you? Top-you are a Conservative Patriot. Bottom-you are a Communist perpetual victim anarchist Democrat.
Josiah Rogers
>Fascism is still in essence democratic Hahahhahahahhaa what
Ian Harris
libertarian socially, socialist economically. Sorry for the confusion.
Jeremiah Ross
haha what MOFO, weren't hitler and mussolini elected ? what was the hierarchy of the Nazi party?
Zachary Hall
...that's not how it works, you're just a liberal.
Xavier Hall
was*
Caleb Sanchez
the people chose their Fuhrer, that's stil democracy in the end. the people shouldn't be able to choose their leader
Jonathan Walker
>mussolini Siezed power via """"coup"""" (I say that because he was invited into office by the king. He didn't actually have a glorious march on rome like italian propaganda says until AFTER he was instated in office. But still, not democratic). >hitler Became Fuhrer through political games. He lost against Hindenburg and only managed to become Chancellor because the NSDAP won the popular vote. But either way, what does this have to do with the actual systems in question? Fascism can be brought through violent warfare too, look at Franco.
Nathan Phillips
>first post every time Gas yourself you filthy kike you will hang on the DOTR
Dylan White
No, they didn't. Fascism, when actually installed in power and not trying to get installed in power, does not allow any sort of voting or anything like that. You're mistaking what was essentially a case of "end justifies the means" as the norm. Look up the Beerhall Putsch.
Daniel Wood
man makes war; war makes the state; the state makes fascism; fascism makes war: forever.
the people are only a resource to be exploited for war
everything else is subordinate to war
I'm saying that people shouldn't be allowed "political freedom" because mobs are stupid and easy to mislead. meritocracy should be the guiding principle and meritocracy is anti-egalitarian and anti-democracy.
The masses are irrelevant
Dominic Long
You're still missing the point: nothing about the actual selection of leaders within fascism is democratic. What you were describing was the transition from republicanism to fascism.
Camden Miller
true, the selection of leader(sometimes) was undemocratic. however their legitimacy came from being "one of the masses", which translated into chaos at the top, for example in WW2 germany inter-departmental rivalry was ridiculous and power was based on personal . the power wasn't properly formalized
Alexander Green
So you've lost the ability for rational though. ok.
Wyatt Moore
I used to be a minarchist libertarian also just like you. After about a year on here I turned into that. You'll find the truth eventually.
Camden Fisher
Now you're just making bullshit up. Stop posting anytime.
Brayden Miller
Fascism is the thing you grow into. As a boy, you typically are a libertarian or socialist, then you gradually become more experience with the world until you become a fascist.
Wyatt Scott
>I came to Sup Forums and Sup Forums 3 years ago as a socialist liberal. I just took the site as a joke, to get a laugh. Slowly over time... You aren't the first and you definitely won't be the last. Congratulations, now fuck off and do something with your life.
Bentley Ward
>I used to be a minarchist libertarian also just like you You're literally retarded. Or just a pure ignoramus. You said you were a SOCIALIST: that's literally the opposite of a minarchist.
Kindly fuck off and take your bullshit along with you, no one can take your words seriously.
Gavin James
If you read the full comment, I said after a year on Sup Forums and talking with my friends I eventually turned into a minarchist/libertarian.
Holy shit a nazi flag who understands that just because Hitler didn't kill the 6 gorillion doesn't mean he was automatically a democratically-elected angel. How do you do friendo?
Also this is ok OP. Just don't let your opinions get swayed too quickly. Look over everything you are told carefully and consider it all. Once some people start down the slope to understanding fascism, the dangers of democracy, and the realities of race, they can go head-over-heels and go totally nuts. 8pol is a great place to see some broken minds mixed with intelligent people who unironically think the world is hollow and that Nazis may still be alive in the artic. Don't let yourself get that far. When your reality gets shattered completely people become open to believing everything.
Jacob Barnes
>murders millions of white to plunder their resources and enslave them through labor camps and taxes >single mom son's at Sup Forums: "he a good boy, he didn't du nuffin, he was turning his life around and was planning on going to art college!"
Achievements of Hitler: >turning eugenics into a taboo White societies were applying eugenics and systematically increasing their IQ. Problematic people procreating and making entire neighborhoods was heavily repudiated, retards were payed be sterilized, often forced. That was the norm for all white societies. No longer. >turning white pride into a taboo Now thanks to him, (and many absolute retards at Sup Forums), being proud of being white means admiring a murderous dictator that put millions into slave labor camps. >killing MILLIONS of whites and stunting the growth of the entire white demographic What a great pro-white military dictatorship! /s >making the west side of communists and jews West was basically anti-commie all the way through, until comes Hitler and white supremacists who sympathize with Hitler, and basically make apologies for him invading countries and seizing all the capital which was fruits of their hard work and turning it into German government property, while on top of that sending them to a labor camp. Now the human history is written so the west fought a war alongside with communist maniacs against the evil pro-white guy who murdered millions of whites.
Please, just fucking stop with Hitler bullshit. You are delivering the white race into a plate.
Also >I just want a homeland for me and my children to live peacefully on a farm and in a nice house without the impurities of today's society. Wanting to be left alone was considered mental illness under Hitler and you would have been sent to a labor camp.
Parker Garcia
If you do just know that you are believing in a retarded unrealistic dishonest fantasy.
Jayden Sanchez
So Hitler's biggest and only mistake was losing, and losing caused all his nation's policies to be demonized?
Daniel Bell
Read this book and reconsider if you were ever really a libertarian socialist.
Juan Cox
You sound a lot like a younger me. FDR, greatest president (or number 2 to Lincoln), yes?
Ryder Morgan
>murders millions >invades territory >seizes capital >sends foreigners to labor camps >entire economy dependent on theft, land invasion, and slave labor >"so, Hitler's only mistake was losing?" Please, commit suicide as soon as possible.
James Collins
Hmm, I'm 23 also. I've been on Sup Forums for a long time, but since going on Sup Forums, it's changed me very similarly. It's fun, but at times I start to realize that it's detrimental for me to share my views with others. But honestly, people subconsciously believe in fascism--at least I think so. It's that way because fascism is closer to the natural order of things. Law of nature and whatnot. Similar to the weak should fear the strong.
Has it changed your goals for life? Like what you want to do in the future, family expectation, etc.? Anyways, cheers and good luck user.
Adrian Anderson
>berg Fascism is not left wing, damn it. The only thing it has in common with the Left wing is government, and even then Commies don't want government. Ideologically, communists are pretty close to AnCaps in their stupidity.
Daniel Long
Gas yourself kike
Ayden Johnson
>my government system isn't left-wing, dammit >it's just a left-wing government system >believe me because (((excuse)))
Brody Ross
Welcome to the club
Samuel Brooks
In what capacity are Fascists and NatSoc Left-wing apart from having gov? You're just saying it is and not giving any evidence. They are traditionalist, hierarchical, have private enterprise, and fucking hate Marxists and the concept of forced equality. At most you can claim that they are collectivist, but that doesn't automatically make it Left-wing. All governments that have taxes are collectivist.
William Barnes
>still caring about left vs right
Kayden Walker
shit blog faggot
Austin Thompson
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William Miller
>used to be a "live and let live" libertarian >have slowly been drifting up and to the right
I unironically believe most lefties should get complimentary helicopter rides. I'm not a Nazi or anything but I definitely believe authoritarian government is the way to go.
Connor Robinson
Jews will call you an antisemitic holocaust denier if you disagree with their eyewitnesses that a body cannot be cremated in 10 minutes.
A majority of self-proclaimed National Socialists on the board are only Natsocs because of the race question. They are not socialists by the modern common definition, they use different understanding of the term based in race and nation, not in economics. Economically they are reasonably free-market, with restrictions to prevent globalism. This is why discussions between Natsocs and other ideologies breaks down into shouting matches so often, people are fighting on entirely different wavelengths and topics.
Samuel Miller
i stopped reading at "socialist liberal"
Carson Ward
How could he have done it better given the situation Germany was in? Play nice to be remembered more positively, but get crushed even sooner, or go all in on a victory?
Benjamin Wilson
Why do "natsocs" rely so much on photoshopped "fantasy" pics?
Does the truth wound you or something?
James Taylor
fpbp
Logan Jones
>took your 3 years to turn into a nationalist
that's a lot of shitposting
Henry Kelly
>I just want a homeland for me and my children to live peacefully on a farm and in a nice house without the impurities of today's society.
What's stopping you now? You think impure, degenerate people acting in their own self interest will magically cease to exist?
Xavier Jenkins
>how could he possibly have done any better!?! >if he had played nice he would have been crushed!!1!
>step 1: don't be a commie who steals shit all the time >step 2: don't invade other countries and just hunker down with anti-subversion policies >step 3: don't ship people into labor camps by the millions >step 4: just wait until the communist system collapses on itself; which was predictably inevitable No boycott because you didn't steal shit like a communist, no mass deaths and slave labo associated with your regime. No one views you as a capital seizing socialist. This is what all white societies were successful at doing, except for Hitler's Germany.
I mean, are you faggots seriously too retarded to understand that nazi larpers are actually ruining the image of whites in today's world? Do you seriously think that people will eventually associate themselves with Hitler, a foreign dictator which is known for his socialist labor camps and economy control? Stop being this fucking idiotic, for fucks sake. Commit suicide instead of being a fucking neo-larper.
Sebastian Johnson
welcome. National socialism, free from democracy, is the best way to live, it is that simple. And ending the international cabal of jewish banks is necessary